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Pauls' Revere
06-13-2019, 09:24 PM
https://www.ocregister.com/2019/06/13/california-moves-to-let-felons-serve-on-juries/

The state of California has made no secret that it wants to let as many people out of prison as possible.

From the early release of inmates through AB 109, to filling parole boards with felon friendly commissioners, to decriminalizing a litany of felonies and drug offenses with Props 47 and 57, Sacramento lawmakers are bending over backwards to dramatically reduce the state’s inmate population.

Despite all of these efforts, the number of inmates hasn’t dropped dramatically enough to satisfy the state’s ruling Democrats, so they’re kicking tires on a new approach — rigging the jury system so no one gets convicted in the first place.

This most recent push is Senate Bill 310, authored by state Sen. Nancy Skinner, D-Berkeley, and would allow Californians who have prior felony convictions to serve on juries.

In a press release promoting the proposal, Skinner wrote, “SB310 will help ensure that California juries represent a fair cross-section of our communities…People with felony records have the right to vote in California. There is no legitimate reason why they should be barred from serving on a jury.”

Currently, felons are prevented from serving on juries because of their obvious and inherent bias against prosecutors and law enforcement.

If you honestly believe that jurors in California who’ve served time won’t be more lenient towards accused criminals, I’ve got a bullet train to sell you.

People who have a family member in law enforcement are excused from jury duty all the time because of the possibility of bias, even unconscious bias.

How can someone who’s served time be considered free of bias?

That’s like having crazy cat ladies vote on how many cats a person should own.

It should be noted that SB310 makes no distinction between violent and non-violent offenders, and even allows convicted felons who are still on probation or parole to serve.

Imagine serving your time, getting out of the clink, then getting sentenced to six months of jury duty on an insurance fraud case. Haven’t you paid your debt to society already?

Since this is California, and the idea is cartoonishly preposterous, of course it sailed through the Senate Public Safety Committee on a 5-1 vote.

In testimony to the Committee, Brendon Woods, Alameda County’s Public Defender, noted that defendants of color are often faced with juries in California in which “no one who sits in judgment looks like [them].”

In California it’s already illegal to exclude potential jurors because of their race, national origin or gender, among other categories. A “jury of your peers” doesn’t mean having a foreman with the same ankle monitoring device as the defendant.

Since the Senate Public Safety Committee vote, SB310 has since been approved by the full state Senate. It was approved on a 27-10 vote.

Look, I’m willing to compromise on this. If an ex-con wants to judge a wet T-shirt contest I say go for it. But felonies are serious business, and the public deserves honest trials with juries who will evaluate the evidence with as few biases as possible, and vote accordingly.

More importantly, that’s what victims deserve as well.

Plus, I’m just not willing to risk having a juror whose vote on guilt or innocence might be swayed by a carton of Marlboro Reds.

Could you imagine turning the news on one night and hearing the phrase: “Mr. Cosby, have you and your fellow jurors reached a verdict?”

Make no mistake, SB310 is not about expanding civil rights for persecuted minorities or reintegrating felons into society — it’s about stacking the deck against prosecutors by making it impossible to win criminal convictions.

Swordsmyth
06-13-2019, 09:29 PM
It's time to expel them from the union and keep the red counties.

Zippyjuan
06-14-2019, 01:50 PM
The state of California has made no secret that it wants to let as many people out of prison as possible.

From the early release of inmates through AB 109, to filling parole boards with felon friendly commissioners, to decriminalizing a litany of felonies and drug offenses with Props 47 and 57, Sacramento lawmakers are bending over backwards to dramatically reduce the state’s inmate population.

Maybe we need a bigger police state and more people locked up at taxpayer expense.


Haven’t you paid your debt to society already?

If they have paid their debt should they still be treated as prisoners?

Swordsmyth
06-14-2019, 04:11 PM
Maybe we need a bigger police state and more people locked up at taxpayer expense.
No, we need to get rid of phony crimes like drug use and not go easy on real crimes like burglary or murder.




If they have paid their debt should they still be treated as prisoners?
When people have committed a serious crime their honor and trustworthiness is stained for life, they should not be trusted with important things like voting or sitting in judgement.


In reality the jury system itself should be abolished, it has never served the purpose it is claimed to serve and it has instead created a false perception of fairness in the judicial system which was its real purpose since the beginning.

Juries put ignorant people with a reason to resent the defendant for supposedly causing their temporary enslavement in charge of deciding who is guilty or innocent.
If laws are bad or judges are unjust then either a political or actual revolution is the answer but the jury system decreases the likelihood of either.