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Swordsmyth
06-09-2019, 07:13 PM
Since its introduction more than a decade ago, the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) hasn’t cut gasoline prices outside the Midwest and has even led to a slight rise in pump prices in states far from ethanol production, while the standard has had a limited effect, if any, on greenhouse gas emissions.
These are the key findings of a new report (https://www.gao.gov/assets/700/698914.pdf) from the United States Government Accountability Office (GAO) prepared at the request of Republican Senator for Oklahoma, James Lankford, who supports policies (https://www.lankford.senate.gov/news/press-releases/lankford-joins-senators-to-urge-rfs-policy-to-reflect-market-realities) to lower the biofuel volumes to reflect market realities that gasoline demand turns out to be lower than what the legislators had predicted when enacting the RFS more than a decade ago.


Under the RFS, oil refiners are required to blend growing amounts of renewable fuels into gasoline and diesel. This policy has long pitted the agriculture lobby against the oil refining lobby. The Midwest farm belt benefits from the RFS policy because it increases demand for ethanol, but the oil refiners do not—they lose petroleum-based market share of fuels, and meeting the blending requirements costs them hundreds of millions of dollars.
In a recent blow to the ethanol industry (https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Ethanol-Industry-Suffers-Major-Blow.html) in the farming vs. oil refining battle, a federal appeals court has denied a renewable fuel group’s attempt to block the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) from issuing small refinery exemptions (SREs) to the Renewable Fuel Standard.


The GAO said in its report that “Ethanol is produced primarily in the Midwest, where most corn is produced. According to the studies we reviewed, this means that Midwest gasoline retailers, being closer to the supply of ethanol, may have been able to charge consumers lower prices for retail gasoline relative to non-Midwest gasoline retailers because of their lower transportation costs for ethanol. Similarly, higher transportation costs outside of the Midwest may have resulted in higher prices of retail gasoline in those regions.”
According to the GAO, evidence from analysis, studies, and interviews that it held with experts suggests that the RFS “was likely associated with modest gasoline price increases outside of the Midwest and that these price increases may have diminished over time.”

Referring to the RFS on emissions, “Most of the experts GAO interviewed generally agreed that, to date, the RFS has likely had a limited effect, if any, on greenhouse gas emissions,” the report said.
Drawing on the opinions of experts and GAO’s prior work, the ‘limited effect’ is likely the result of RFS reliance on conventional corn-starch ethanol, which has a smaller potential to reduce emissions compared with advanced biofuels, and the fact that most corn-starch ethanol has been produced in plants exempt from emissions.
Going forward, GAO’s analysis suggests that “the RFS is unlikely to meet the greenhouse gas emissions reduction goals envisioned for the program through 2022,” because corn-starch ethanol will continue to dominate the biofuels as it is economical to produce, while advanced biofuels with the potential to achieve greater emission reductions—cellulosic ethanol for example—are not cheap to produce.

More at: https://oilprice.com/Alternative-Energy/Biofuels/Biofuels-Havent-Cut-Gasoline-Prices-Or-Emissions.html

Brian4Liberty
06-09-2019, 07:44 PM
Too bad they don’t let the competitive market determine how much, if any, ethanol is marketable and profitable.

Lest we forget, Trump was recently bragging to a group of farmers that he was making the E15 standard permanent.


Also included in this plan is year round E15 ethanol fuel. Wonderful. Another market manipulation fatwa.

Media isn’t reporting this aspect, as it could be seen as a positive by corn farmers and global warming cultists.

Swordsmyth
06-09-2019, 07:51 PM
Too bad they don’t let the competitive market determine how much, if any, ethanol is marketable and profitable.

Lest we forget, Trump was recently bragging to a group of farmers that he was making the E15 standard permanent.
And on the other hand he has handed out wavers to a bunch of refineries so that they can skip using ethanol.

Working Poor
06-09-2019, 10:03 PM
What about hemp diesel? I guess they are afraid people will be getting high on it and not give a %^$# about oil.

Zippyjuan
06-10-2019, 12:02 PM
What about hemp diesel? I guess they are afraid people will be getting high on it and not give a %^$# about oil.

From a pro- bio diesel publication:

http://www.biodieselmagazine.com/articles/1434/hemp-biodiesel-when-the-smoke-clears/


Arthur Hanks, executive director of the Canadian Hemp Trade Alliance, agrees that there are too many factors working against the use of hemp as a biodiesel feedstock. "People talk about it, but there's not really anything happening with that right now," he tells Biodiesel Magazine.

Price is the big issue, Hanks says, echoing Bobbee's sentiments. The human nutritional market pays well for hemp seed. Currently, conventionally grown hemp seed brings in about 45 Canadian cents a pound, he says. Certified organic seed garners 85 Canadian cents a pound, or nearly CAN$40 a bushel.

Then there's the hurdle of limited supply. Although healthy demand has increased hemp production numbers in Canada, there's just not enough quantity to go around. In 2005, 24,000 acres of hemp were planted in Canada, more than doubling to 50,000 acres in 2006. "That particularly, is very much an issue of economies of scale," Hanks says. "We are still very much a specialty crop."

Finally, there's the relatively low oil productivity of hemp. Hemp seed does have a relatively high oil content of about 33 percent, compared with canola at about 40 percent. However, it has a low seed per-acre yield. Typically, an acre of hemp yields about 700 pounds of seed, although some farmers have enjoyed production numbers as high as 1,200 pounds an acre in good years, Hanks says. Canola growers, on the other hand, can reap a crop of anywhere from 1,500 to 2,600 pounds an acre.

It is now in competition as a source for CBD oil which will drive up the price too.


https://www.hempgazette.com/industrial-hemp/biofuel-hemp-energy/


It’s been calculated that hemp can produce more than 800 litres of biodiesel per hectare per year –

To convert- one hectare is 2.47 acres. A litre is about a quart. 800 liters is 211 gallons. Divide by 2.47 hectares and we get 85 gallons of oil per acre. One barrel of oil is 42 gallons so about two barrels of diesel per acre per year.

How much do we use?

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=23&t=10


In 2018, about 142.86 billion gallons (or about 3.40 billion barrels1) of finished motor gasoline were consumed in the United States, a daily average of about 391.40 million gallons (or about 9.32 million barrels per day).

To replace our gasoline use with hemp biodeisel only, we would need 2.15 billion acres of hemp. The entire land mass of the US is 2.4 billion acres- that includes all cities, farms, mountains, deserts, etc.

But all bio fuels are too inefficient.

dannno
06-10-2019, 01:35 PM
From a pro- bio diesel publication:

http://www.biodieselmagazine.com/articles/1434/hemp-biodiesel-when-the-smoke-clears/



It is now in competition as a source for CBD oil which will drive up the price too.


https://www.hempgazette.com/industrial-hemp/biofuel-hemp-energy/



To convert- one hectare is 2.47 acres. A litre is about a quart. 800 liters is 211 gallons. Divide by 2.47 hectares and we get 85 gallons of oil per acre. One barrel of oil is 42 gallons so about two barrels of diesel per acre per year.

How much do we use?

https://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=23&t=10



To replace our gasoline use with hemp biodeisel only, we would need 2.15 billion acres of hemp. The entire land mass of the US is 2.4 billion acres- that includes all cities, farms, mountains, deserts, etc.

But all bio fuels are too inefficient.

There is a missing piece in your argument. Hemp doesn't need as much water or fertilizer as canola. It may take more acres to produce as much ethanol, but it is a lot less energy intensive.

I think once hemp production becomes more widespread there will be some uses for it. I don't think it will become the only form of energy we need, though.

Zippyjuan
06-10-2019, 01:40 PM
There is a missing piece in your argument. Hemp doesn't need as much water or fertilizer as canola. It may take more acres to produce as much ethanol, but it is a lot less energy intensive.

I think once hemp production becomes more widespread there will be some uses for it. I don't think it will become the only form of energy we need, though.

It needs more fertilizer than some realize. https://www.growingformarket.com/articles/growing-hemp-for-the-first-time


It needs a lot of nitrogen, it needs a good dose of phosphorus. There's a misconception that it needs an excess of phosphorus because it's producing a lot of flowers, but it just needs enough phosphorus like a standard 50 pounds of phosphorus per acre, 100 pounds of nitrogen per acre just like if you're growing corn. Maybe 120 if it's very deficient. So, you're going to be right in the same neighborhood, fertility-wise, as a lot of other crops.

And then, it is a pretty big potassium consumer, something like 80 pounds of potassium per acre. Or that's what it would remove. It is a higher potassium consumer than most crops, so that's one anomaly. Also, it does need some sulfur, which is why I mentioned garlic. Something like 20 pounds of sulfur per acre, sulfate sulfur.

dannno
06-10-2019, 03:13 PM
It needs more fertilizer than some realize. https://www.growingformarket.com/articles/growing-hemp-for-the-first-time

Sorry, that's complete bullshit. You really should have looked up some more sources before finding the first source you could find, that comes from a fertilizer company.. There is a reason they call it "weed".

Hemp used to grow in fields, in the wild, before it was eradicated. It is a nitrogen fixer, it actually adds some nitrogen back to the soil.. So the idea that it needs a bunch of nitrogen is complete bullshit.


In addition to its consumer uses, it is good for the soil and grows like a weed. With little need for pesticides and resilience to adverse weather conditions, hemp could be the cash crop American farmers have been waiting for. Most importantly, it is nitrogen-fixing and puts down deep roots to support its long straight stalk. That loosens compacted soil. These facts coupled with its high yield per acre, and high demand make it a no-brainer for farmers and environmentalists.

https://www.blueridgeoutdoors.com/go-outside/industrial-hemp-think-green-in-2015/

Zippyjuan
06-10-2019, 03:22 PM
Penn State (industrial cultivation): https://extension.psu.edu/industrial-hemp-production


Fertilizer requirements are best determined by a soil test. The Agricultural Analytical Services Lab at Penn State has developed fertilizer recommendations for hemp. In a soil with optimum levels of phosphorus (P) and potassium (K), recommendations for a crop with a 1,500-pound yield potential would be 150 pounds of nitrogen (N), 30 pounds of phosphate (P2O5), and 20 pounds of potash (K2O).

Hemp can be affected by disease and insect pests in the field. While these have not been common in initial trials, they could increase with more cultivation. Several diseases have been noted, including gray mold (Botrytis cinerea), white mold (Sclerotinia sclerotiorum), bacterial leaf spots, viruses, and Pythium root rot and blight during establishment. It would be best to avoid growing hemp in fields with a previous white mold problem in soybeans or canola or in wet fields where seed rots could be a problem. Many of the insects that cause issues with other crops, such as cutworm, grubs, flea beetles, grasshoppers, and aphids, have been reported in hemp. In Pennsylvania research trials, only Japanese beetles have been noted in hemp, and they are attracted only to the male plants. Slugs have also been reported to damage hemp. Bird damage can also be an issue with hemp, as the seed is an attractive feed source. Mourning doves seem especially fond of hemp seed. Damage from deer and woodchucks does not appear to be as severe as it does in other crops like soybean.