The next wave of demographic warfare: thousands from Ebola ravaged Africa on the way

[Anti Federalist]

So, what now?

Let the word get out to 1 billion people in Africa that the door is wide open, especially if you're dying of Ebola and want the white man's medicine, and get washed away in the filthy flood waters of demographic invasion, stupidity, ignorance, disease and death that have already eroded away the nation's foundation?

Or, man the fuck up, recognize this for what it is, a Fifth Generation warfare invasion being organized and carried out by groups and individuals at war with the Republic, and close the border, man the ramparts and shoot the invaders in the face if they cross the line?

Those are the only two choices left...everything else is philosotarian navel gazing and sophomore dorm room bullshit.

What say you?


'Parle vous français?' City searches for French speakers as hundreds of Congolese asylum-seekers head to San Antonio

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/local/parle-vous-francais-city-searches-for-french-speakers-as-hundreds-of-congolese-asylum-seekers-head-to-sa/273-0c015995-05b2-4a0e-959b-fdc1d2991d6f

"When we called Border Patrol to confirm, they said yea another 2-300 from the Congo and Angola will be coming to San Antonio,'" Dr. Collen Bridger said.

Author: Jaleesa Irizarry

Published: 6:16 PM CDT June 6, 2019
Updated: 6:17 PM CDT June 6, 2019


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOR4-tKq3M4

Roughly 350 migrants from the Congo are expected to arrive in San Antonio in the coming days leaving the city scrambling for French-speaking volunteers.

"We didn't get a heads up," Interim Assistant City Manager Dr. Collen Bridger told KEN 5 on Thursday.

Bridger said the Congolese migrants began to arrive in town on Tuesday. They told Migrant Resource Center workers, they traveled with a group of about 350 migrants through Ecuador to the southern border.

"When we called Border Patrol to confirm, they said, 'yea another 200 to 300 from the Congo and Angola will be coming to San Antonio,'" Bridger said.

That included Masengi, a Congolese migrant, who didn't want to have his face on camera but told KENS 5 via Google Translate he arrived to the southern border as an asylum seeker.

He said he came to America for security reasons and said, "My family is staying in my country but with the help of the USA I can get it back."

But the language barrier is why the city is in desperate need of French-speaking volunteers, to help get many of these individuals to their final destination.

"If you speak primarily French and can come spend 6,7,8 hours, that would be really helpful," Bridger encouraged.

On Wednesday alone the migrant center saw a total of 450 people, Spanish and French speaking, during the day and housed 375 of them at Travis Park Church at night.

The city opened up the Frank Garrett Center to house the Congolese migrants for the weekend, but after that, they're not sure where they'll house them especially since they don't know how long some of them will be here.

"The plan was 350 of them would travel from San Antonio to Portland. When we reached out to Portland Maine they said, 'Please don't send us any more. We're already stretched way beyond our capacity," Bridger said.

"So we're working with them [the migrants] now to identify other cities throughout the United States where they can go and begin their asylum seeking process."

Catholic Charities of San Antonio is also responding to the Congolese influx. But Spokesperson, Christina Higgs, told KENS 5 they are struggling with finances. The organization requested additional funding from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishop, a group they work with on their refugee program.

Higgs said they're spending thousands of dollars a week on bus tickets for many of these migrants Spanish and French-speaking to make it to their final destination.

"We’re looking at roughly $14,000 a week on bus tickets alone," Higgs said.

"We’ve been asked several times if we’re worried if the money will run out and we are. It’s obviously a finite resource. It’s very precious to those who are giving, but this is really the only way for is to go and have these funds earmarked for asylum seekers. To help them in this transition period and get them where they ultimately need to be."

If you are interested in donating funds you can do so at the Catholic Charities website.

If you are interested in helping the city of San Antonio as a French-speaking volunteer see the post below.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

I'm okay with helping the world, on their own soil

[Anti Federalist]

I'm okay with helping the world, on their own soil

I'm not...any more than I am in favor of helping out bankrupt leftist city and state governments and idiot crony corps.

Fuck them.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I'm okay with helping the world, on their own soil

Im not, fuck them.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

So, what now?

Let the word get out to 1 billion people in Africa that the door is wide open, especially if you're dying of Ebola and want the white man's medicine, and get washed away in the filthy flood waters of demographic invasion, stupidity, ignorance, disease and death that have already eroded away the nation's foundation?

Or, man the $#@! up, recognize this for what it is, a Fifth Generation warfare invasion being organized and carried out by groups and individuals at war with the Republic, and close the border, man the ramparts and shoot the invaders in the face if they cross the line?

Those are the only two choices left...everything else is philostarian navel gazing and sophomore dorm room bull$#@!.

What say you?


'Parle vous français?' City searches for French speakers as hundreds of Congolese asylum-seekers head to San Antonio

https://www.kens5.com/article/news/local/parle-vous-francais-city-searches-for-french-speakers-as-hundreds-of-congolese-asylum-seekers-head-to-sa/273-0c015995-05b2-4a0e-959b-fdc1d2991d6f

"When we called Border Patrol to confirm, they said yea another 2-300 from the Congo and Angola will be coming to San Antonio,'" Dr. Collen Bridger said.

Author: Jaleesa Irizarry

Published: 6:16 PM CDT June 6, 2019
Updated: 6:17 PM CDT June 6, 2019

Roughly 350 migrants from the Congo are expected to arrive in San Antonio in the coming days leaving the city scrambling for French-speaking volunteers.

"We didn't get a heads up," Interim Assistant City Manager Dr. Collen Bridger told KEN 5 on Thursday.

Bridger said the Congolese migrants began to arrive in town on Tuesday. They told Migrant Resource Center workers, they traveled with a group of about 350 migrants through Ecuador to the southern border.

"When we called Border Patrol to confirm, they said, 'yea another 200 to 300 from the Congo and Angola will be coming to San Antonio,'" Bridger said.

That included Masengi, a Congolese migrant, who didn't want to have his face on camera but told KENS 5 via Google Translate he arrived to the southern border as an asylum seeker.

He said he came to America for security reasons and said, "My family is staying in my country but with the help of the USA I can get it back."

But the language barrier is why the city is in desperate need of French-speaking volunteers, to help get many of these individuals to their final destination.

"If you speak primarily French and can come spend 6,7,8 hours, that would be really helpful," Bridger encouraged.

On Wednesday alone the migrant center saw a total of 450 people, Spanish and French speaking, during the day and housed 375 of them at Travis Park Church at night.

The city opened up the Frank Garrett Center to house the Congolese migrants for the weekend, but after that, they're not sure where they'll house them especially since they don't know how long some of them will be here.

"The plan was 350 of them would travel from San Antonio to Portland. When we reached out to Portland Maine they said, 'Please don't send us any more. We're already stretched way beyond our capacity," Bridger said.

"So we're working with them [the migrants] now to identify other cities throughout the United States where they can go and begin their asylum seeking process."

Catholic Charities of San Antonio is also responding to the Congolese influx. But Spokesperson, Christina Higgs, told KENS 5 they are struggling with finances. The organization requested additional funding from the United States Conference of Catholic Bishop, a group they work with on their refugee program.

Higgs said they're spending thousands of dollars a week on bus tickets for many of these migrants Spanish and French-speaking to make it to their final destination.

"We’re looking at roughly $14,000 a week on bus tickets alone," Higgs said.

"We’ve been asked several times if we’re worried if the money will run out and we are. It’s obviously a finite resource. It’s very precious to those who are giving, but this is really the only way for is to go and have these funds earmarked for asylum seekers. To help them in this transition period and get them where they ultimately need to be."

If you are interested in donating funds you can do so at the Catholic Charities website.

If you are interested in helping the city of San Antonio as a French-speaking volunteer see the post below.


Arrest the fools at the charities, arrest everyone. Enough of this.

[Swordsmyth]

Per the latest WHO weekly outbreak bulletin (https://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/handle/10665/324950/OEW21-2026052019.pdf), the 10 month Ebola outbreak continues unabated in DRC. It's up by almost exactly 30% in the last 21 days.

The Good
They've vaccinated nearly 125K people, with an experimental vaccine that appears to confer >99% effectiveness against Ebola. (For the 1K or less people who contracted it anyways, don't worry, most of them are dead now.)

The Bad

1) Despite vaccinations, progressing at some 1000 per day, for a non-zero number of cases (currently it's something like 5% of all new cases), they have no effing clue where a given case originated, and thus no wild idea whom to vaccinate, or how to throw up a suitable containment ring around them, or how the virus got past them.

2) They are tracing contacts in 17 health zones. The problem with that is there are 22 health zones (think of counties) with active Ebola cases in the last couple of weeks. Imagine being missed by 17 out of 22 cars as you cross in a crosswalk, and you begin to appreciate why this is a problem.

In the five other zones (23%) where there is zero contact tracing, they have no idea what the disease is doing.

The Ugly

In this current outbreak, in 50% of cases, fever as a presenting sign is completely absent.
(Fever, we remind you, is how grade-school dropout customs screeners in 126 countries check people at the airports for Ebola before letting them in. Including our TSA wizards here in the U.S. It's really the only thing they can check that can be mastered by 80 IQ government employees worldwide. Sleep tight.)
Short of laboratory testing everyone (which they aren't and cannot do in nearly 1/4 of the Hot Zone in DRC), and a 40-day quarantine, cases will continue to multiply.
And they are.

Let's look at that over time, since we're at the 10-month anniversary of this outbreak today:

Index case Aug 1
2 cases Aug 1
4 Aug 1
8 Aug 1
16 Aug 1
32 Aug 3
64 Aug 3
128 Aug 31
256 Oct 15
512 Dec 3
1K Feb 24
2K May 12
4K probably about Aug 1

That would be an 11 on the 34-point Scale Of Whether It's Time To Panic, with 34 being Global Extinction Event. And headed to 12 at about 100 new cases/wk, give or take.

And we repeat, as the virus doesn't kill overnight, the correct death ratio number, we pound home, is not the WHO/Wikistupidia math-retarded posted lie of 65% of dead vs. infected, it's those dead now vs. number infected 21 days ago, which gives a consistent and far more reliable lethality percentage around 75%. Because it takes about that long to get it, and then die from it, on a rough average.

USAMRIID and CDC refer to that level of lethality as a "slate-wiper"; it erases populations.

And bear well in mind "surviving" Ebola means you now have it functionally forever, and get to suffer the sequellae of Post-Ebola virus syndrome (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-Ebola_virus_syndrome). {TL;DR: You're still screwed, and life, as you knew it, is over. You aren't going back to your old life ever again. Short answer: don't catch it to begin with.}

Note that by the time it was confirmed as an outbreak this time, it had already doubled 4 times, meaning it probably started two to four weeks earlier, at minimum, but no one noticed until literally 20 people dropped dead with blood shooting out of all orifices. Nominally, on Day One. Proof of this is that it doubled two more times in the next 48 hours.
Growth slowed notably, mainly because the vaccine and ring vaccination slowed the brushfire down. At first.

And then the local superstition and ignorance kicked in, they started stealing bodies from morgues, burning Ebola treatment centers, and chasing the health teams out at gunpoint, and all hell has broken loose, probably never to be contained, because we don't have the 82nd Airborne in hazmat suits available to shoot idiots at gunpoint to get this back in the bottle.

You know this because it keeps escaping to neighboring health zones and provinces, having now moved some 100 miles outward.
It has surged notably since March of this year, both in terms of numbers, and affected areas. That is an ominous sign.

Bear in mind once again that this area is
a) equatorial jungle, literally right on the Equator
b) listed in all maps relevant as "ungoverned"
c) listed in all relevant maps as "armed conflict zone"

The UN and all local organizations are doing their usual Headless Chicken, thrashing about, but to little effect, and the literature continues to try and paint a happy picture, while ill-concealing their ultimate despair that they'll get ahead of this one.

It continues to be a slow roll-out compared to 2014, but is notably picking up steam.
1000 vaccinations a day is great when you have 100 cases.
When you're working on 2200 cases and counting, and nearly 1/4 of the regions you need to be in are untouched by any effort, the horse left the barn, and you're just marking time on three sides while the whole show departs through the gaping holes in containment.

It's going to get much worse, much faster, probably in a week to a month, when cases start popping up farther afield, where there are no resources or testing, let alone contact tracing, and the percentage of cases with no clear infection chain will go from single digit percentages to mid-double digits rapidly.

And now comes unconfirmed word that we have a number of potential infected refugees in custody on the Southern border of the US. Nobody's saying they have Ebola, just getting all flustercated because they might. {Emphasis added for clarity. -A.}

My default answer is to ignore these reports until it's confirmed, because most of them are indeed false reports, so we'll wait and see how it pans out, as you all should.

But if it breaks out here, we have 11 BL-IV beds (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/do-math.html), max, to adequately contain that outbreak.
For reference, Mexico has zero beds.
I repeat, Mexico has zero beds.

If it breaks out south of the border, one case becomes 100 cases in about a month, tops, (probably more like a week to ten days) and then the flood of refugees coming here becomes a tsunami (actually, we're there now completely without a pandemic to drive it faster, so picture that when it gets turned up to 11). At that point, f**k a wall. The only way you stop that flow is AC-130s doing minigun sweeps of anything moving within 1/4 mile of the international border, which is going to be hard on the millions of people who already live inside that zone on both sides of the line.

So if Mexico gets one active case, you can cancel Christmas.
America (North, and particularly Central and South) becomes Africa at that point.
Ditto if we get more than 10 cases here in the U.S.

We saw what happens when people at the local big hospital tried to be Emory or Nebraska or The Vault at USAMRIID: it fails, and you knock a 1000-bed major tertiary care facility out for months, for the whole community.
And the virus doubles, despite your best efforts.

With EVD, close isn't good enough, and only counts with horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear weapons.

I'm working, and have been, in level I and II trauma centers, and major high-volume ERs my entire career. More since 2014 than before, BTW.

And I'm here to tell you, by the numbers:

1) We aren't ready to deal with this, in any meaningful way, any better than in 2014
2) By "we" I mean any hospital in any city anywhere in North America, and
3) when, not if, this breaks out here, it's going to take out health care as you know it in every affected city, starting with the people who work in them, then patients and visitors. Hospitals will become abbatoirs, morgues, then ghost towns.
4) 911 responders (firefighter rigs and EMT units, and to a lesser extent, law enforcement) will become potential carriers to spread the disease back into the community.
5) anybody, anywhere, with whatever certifications, who tells you anything different is either lying out their ass at both ends, or doesn't know what they're talking about, and anything further they say can be completely discounted as utter bullsh*t from someone too stupid to live, or irredeemably evil.

Good times, huh?

That means no ER, no 9-1-1, no 50 other things people come to hospitals or call the police and fire department to handle. Trauma, heart attacks, strokes, diabetic emergencies, appendicitis, and the whole plethora of modern medicine.
Imagine the police not wanting to get within 20 feet of people on a stop or a call.
Car accidents will become morgue calls.

Because Ebola.

The Monster

The little filovirus in the masthead for these updates is magnified tens of thousand times, in pics that have been around since the mid-1970s.
A period at the end of this sentence would be a ball of virus that numbers 100,000,000 of them.
The number necessary to give you full-blown Ebola is one.

We don't know in what species Ebola resides between outbreaks. Anywhere. Ever.
We don't know how it gets transmitted from them to humans.
No idea whatsoever.

Flecks of infected blood from a human victim who has it can be coughed and sneezed 25', and may linger in the air for up to 10 minutes afterwards.
And that's only considered droplet precautions, because those particles are heavier than air, and eventually settle, unlike true airborne precautions, for something like TB, or pneumonic plague.

Your body won't care which it is if you suck in one of those droplets at the movie theater, theme park, supermarket, or mall, whenever you simply breathe it in anytime you walk within 25' of anywhere anyone has coughed in the last 10 minutes.

Have fun at WalMart, Target, the airport, a theme park, a movie multiplex, a ballpark or auditorium, and the supermarket then.

And before someone starts asking (again?!) about how to "deal" with this, by suiting up:
1) You need a 20-piece hazmat ensemble, a spotter to put it on and take it off, a metric $#@!ton of disinfectant and disposable items, including gloves, splash-proof goggles, gloves, suits, gloves, hoods, gloves, booties, gloves, droplet barrier masks, and gloves.
2) One break in protocol will be a terminal error.
3) And potentially expose everyone you come into contact with to the virus.
4) And require you to start all over again getting suited up for, or deconned out of, any hot zone
5) Oh, and lest we forget, it's June, and the ensemble inside is hot-as-$#@!ing-hell, and gives the average person maybe two hours' time before they're ready to pass out from heat stroke, before we factor in dehydration, claustrophobia, and sheer panic.
6) Did we mention that hot, tired, dehydrated, exhausted, and panicky people make $#@!tons of sloppy mistakes?
7) Did we also mention that one mistake can get you and everyone you love or contact killed?

So yeah, $#@! the idea of working in hazmat gear. Professionals hate it. With all the resources mentioned above you'll never have.
You?
You don't stand a chance.

Proper protective equipment for Ebola, we repeat and belabor, is several lengths of military-grade concertina, warning signs, a shotgun and supply of buckshot, and small breakable containers with a suitable flame accelerant, for emergency decontamination beyond the perimeter.

Chance of Ebola sneaking up your driveway and into you behind such a perimeter: 0%.

Odds of seeing this material again before the end of the year: better than even.

Happy Summer, kids!
Now do you see why I don't want to bring this up any more frequently?

UPDATE: 116 Africans, including congolese refugees, caught crossing Rio Grande (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/border-patrol-agents-apprehend-large-group-del-rio)
What could possibly go wrong?

http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/...la-update.html (http://raconteurreport.blogspot.com/2019/06/june-ebola-update.html)








Ebola cases doubled from 1000 in March to 2000 in June (https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/783307/ebola-congo-figures-triple-new-cases-clinics-government-who)

[timosman]

I. Don't. Care. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535331-I-Don-t-Care)

[Swordsmyth]

I. Don't. Care. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535331-I-Don-t-Care)
If it comes here we will be forced to care.

[timosman]

If it comes here we will be forced to care.

Poverty pimps are keeping at it. :tears:

[Anti Globalist]

Pretty soon all the worse diseases known to mankind will start to cultivate here.

[Anti Federalist]

Arrest the fools at the charities, arrest everyone. Enough of this.

I cannot afford to fly to the Congo.

You can't walk or swim from there.

Somebody got them here.

I normally am not in favor of arrests, but in this case, yes, arrest those people...they are arsonists.

[Swordsmyth]

I cannot afford to fly to the Congo.

You can't walk or swim from there.

Somebody got them here.

I normally am not in favor of arrests, but in this case, yes, arrest those people...they are arsonists.
They are traitors.
I want firing squads.

[Zippyjuan]

I cannot afford to fly to the Congo.

You can't walk or swim from there.

Somebody got them here.

I normally am not in favor of arrests, but in this case, yes, arrest those people...they are arsonists.

Refugees from Africa have been going to Brazil for a long time. Now some are working their way to the US. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/26901/against-the-odds-african-migration-to-south-america-grows

As for the ebola freak-out, ebola has a lantency period of two to 21 days. If you are infected, you will know in that time. But it takes them much longer than that to reach the US so if they do have ebola, they will die before they get here.

You may now resume your normal hysteria.

[Pauls' Revere]

No worries, the government chemtrails will protect us.

[Swordsmyth]

Refugees from Africa have been going to Brazil for a long time. Now some are working their way to the US. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/26901/against-the-odds-african-migration-to-south-america-grows

As for the ebola freak-out, ebola has a lantency period of two to 21 days. If you are infected, you will know in that time. But it takes them much longer than that to reach the US so if they do have ebola, they will die before they get here.

You may now resume your normal hysteria.
Ebola doesn't have to get here in one jump, it can move to Brazil and then to central America and then to Mexico and then to the US.
21 days is plenty of time for each jump and if it takes root in any country along the way it could become a permanent threat in this hemisphere.
Take your Soma elsewhere.

[Superfluous Man]

So is Ebola the crucial factor here? If they are not infected with it, it's ok for them to come here?

[Zippyjuan]

So is Ebola the crucial factor here? If they are not infected with it, it's ok for them to come here?

We need scary stories. People need to be afraid. Then we can get a bigger government to protect them.

[Superfluous Man]

We need scary stories. People need to be afraid. Then we can get a bigger government to protect them.

I have a sneaking suspicion that Ebola is just the excuse. The real operative term in the thread title is "demographic."

[Swordsmyth]

So is Ebola the crucial factor here? If they are not infected with it, it's ok for them to come here?
It is an additional threat.

It's not OK for them to invade either way.

And the latest strain of Ebola doesn't cause a fever in the early stages so it is much harder to screen for it.

[PAF]

So, what now?




Well, he did press on about that “emergency” spending bill because of the Mexicans. And then, as president, he went and signed it.

So, the OP article doesn’t surprise me at all. Now that the North is taken care of, and now central, they will be heading to South Africa next.

Isn’t there vast amounts of gold there that hasn’t been mined yet?



Page 188
8 (h) REFUGEE ASSISTANCE IN NORTH AFRICA.-Not
9 later than 45 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary
10 of State, after consultation with the United Nations
11 High Commissioner for Refugees and the Executive Direc-
12 tor of the World Food Programme, shall submit a report
13 to the Committees on Appropriations describing steps
14 taken to strengthen monitoring of the delivery of humani-
15 tarian assistance provided for refugees in North Africa,
16 including any steps taken to ensure that all vulnerable ref-
17 ugees are receiving such assistance.

Page 255
12 (k) TRANSFER OF FUNDS.-Of the funds appro-
13 priated by this Act under the heading "Economic Support
14 Fund", $25,000,000 shall be transferred to, and merged
15 with, funds appropriated under the heading "International
16 Organizations and Programs", of which $23,000,000 shall
17 be for a contribution to support the United Nations resi-
18 dent coordinator system and $2,000,000 shall be for a
19 contribution to the Montreal Protocol Multilateral Fund.

Page 314
6 UNITED NATIONS POPULATION FUND
7 SEC. 7072. (a) CONTRIBUTION.-Of the funds made
8 available under the heading "International Organizations
9 and Programs" in this Act for fiscal year 2019,
10 $32,500,000 shall be made available for the United Na-
11 tions Population Fund (UNFP A).
12 (b) AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.-Funds appropriated
13 by this Act for UNFPA, that are not made available for
14 UNFP A because of the operation of any provision of law,
15 shall be transferred to the "Global Health Programs" ac-
16 count and shall be made available for family planning, ma-
17 ternal, and reproductive health activities, subject to the
18 regular notification procedures of the Committees on Ap-
19 propriations.






What say you?




The same thing I always say: when government gets involved in anything its sole purpose is to grow.

One may not see the ramifications now or in the short term, it may appear that he is making strides, but history tells us that is certainly not the case.

Keep hoping though. It will give you something to look forward to the next election cycle. Only in hind sight, folks are going to say “what in the hell happened!, with a giant black eye and less money in their pockets.

[Swordsmyth]

Well, he did press on about that “emergency” spending bill because of the Mexicans. And then, as president, he went and signed it.

So, the OP article doesn’t surprise me at all. Now that the North is taken care of, and now central, they will be heading to South Africa next.

Isn’t there vast amounts of gold there that hasn’t been mined yet?



Page 188
8 (h) REFUGEE ASSISTANCE IN NORTH AFRICA.-Not
9 later than 45 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary
10 of State, after consultation with the United Nations
11 High Commissioner for Refugees and the Executive Direc-
12 tor of the World Food Programme, shall submit a report
13 to the Committees on Appropriations describing steps
14 taken to strengthen monitoring of the delivery of humani-
15 tarian assistance provided for refugees in North Africa,
16 including any steps taken to ensure that all vulnerable ref-
17 ugees are receiving such assistance.

Page 255
12 (k) TRANSFER OF FUNDS.-Of the funds appro-
13 priated by this Act under the heading "Economic Support
14 Fund", $25,000,000 shall be transferred to, and merged
15 with, funds appropriated under the heading "International
16 Organizations and Programs", of which $23,000,000 shall
17 be for a contribution to support the United Nations resi-
18 dent coordinator system and $2,000,000 shall be for a
19 contribution to the Montreal Protocol Multilateral Fund.

Page 314
6 UNITED NATIONS POPULATION FUND
7 SEC. 7072. (a) CONTRIBUTION.-Of the funds made
8 available under the heading "International Organizations
9 and Programs" in this Act for fiscal year 2019,
10 $32,500,000 shall be made available for the United Na-
11 tions Population Fund (UNFP A).
12 (b) AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.-Funds appropriated
13 by this Act for UNFPA, that are not made available for
14 UNFP A because of the operation of any provision of law,
15 shall be transferred to the "Global Health Programs" ac-
16 count and shall be made available for family planning, ma-
17 ternal, and reproductive health activities, subject to the
18 regular notification procedures of the Committees on Ap-
19 propriations.






The same thing I always say: when government gets involved in anything its sole purpose is to grow.

One may not see the ramifications now or in the short term, it may appear that he is making strides, but history tells us that is certainly not the case.

Keep hoping though. It will give you something to look forward to the next election cycle. Only in hind sight, folks are going to say “what in the hell happened!, with a giant black eye and less money in their pockets.
In your world Ebola refugees would be allowed to wander across our border without anyone even knowing and the millions of Americans that would die would just be ignored.

That's all anyone needs to understand.

[oyarde]

So is Ebola the crucial factor here? If they are not infected with it, it's ok for them to come here?

I doubt anyone requires any services they have to offer and I imagine like most other leftists cities portland is broke and cannot care for them which is how they end up in san antonio . Sounds like quite a burden . Who gets to pay ? is the only real question I suppose.

[PAF]

In your world Ebola refugees would be allowed to wander across our border without anyone even knowing and the millions of Americans that would die would just be ignored.

That's all anyone needs to understand.

My way would solve many of the problems, while shrinking government, growing liberty and saving money.

Your way would mandate every person on planet earth being subject to retinal/anal scans and medical rape, just to travel and at tax payer expense.

That’s all anyone needs to understand. Because, yes, you are in fact an anti-liberty, big government shill.

[Swordsmyth]

My way would solve many of the problems, while shrinking government, growing liberty and saving money.
No, it would not, it would ensure that the entire world was reduced to the lowest common denominator of tyranny.


Your way would mandate every person on planet earth being subject to retinal/anal scans and medical rape, just to travel and at tax payer expense.
None of that is required to control our borders and limit immigration.



That’s all anyone needs to understand. Because, yes, you are in fact an anti-liberty, big government shill.
LOL, maybe if you walk backwards enough you can stop thinking backwards.

And just as I predicted you ignore and refuse to acknowledge the threat to the lives of millions of Americans, that exposes your mentality better than anything I could say.

[Danke]

All in favor of importing more of them, give a thumbs up.

Zippyjuan
:up:

RonZeplin
:up:

PAF
:up:

Superfluous Man
:up:

Ender
:up:

TheCount
:up:

tfurrh
:up:

invisible
:up:

Anyone else?

[PAF]

No, it would not, it would ensure that the entire world was reduced to the lowest common denominator of tyranny.


None of that is required to control our borders and limit immigration.



LOL, maybe if you walk backwards enough you can stop thinking backwards.

And just as I predicted you ignore and refuse to acknowledge the threat to the lives of millions of Americans, that exposes your mentality better than anything I could say.

Well let’s see Mr Logical man. If the folks there are poor, low quality and not worthy, chances are they don’t have a pot to piss in to improve their life there, let alone travel to the other side of the planet.

Somebody is funding them en mass, and it’s not a private individual. Chances are, government (theirs, ours, other, all of the above) is, which you advocate growing even larger in order to reduce it.

[Swordsmyth]

Well let’s see Mr Logical man. If the folks there are poor, low quality and not worthy, chances are they don’t have a pot to piss in to improve their life there, let alone travel to the other side of the planet.

Somebody is funding them en mass, and it’s not a private individual. Chances are, government (theirs, ours, other, all of the above) is, which you advocate growing even larger in order to reduce it.
It is private globalist individuals and globalist governments and I do not advocate growing it even larger, it is already larger than it needs to be to secure the border and limit immigration.

[PAF]

It is private globalist individuals and globalist governments and I do not growing it even larger, it is already larger than it needs to be to secure the border and limit immigration.

Private globalist individuals and globalists governments love love love people like you. The reason they hate people like me, Ron Paul, and the list that Danke composed is because we don’t fall for their propaganda bullshit. You see, we would opt to defund them and tell them to hike. Like when they didn’t even bother to knock on Ron Paul’s door.

[Swordsmyth]

Private globalist individuals and globalists governments love love love people like you. The reason they hate people like me, Ron Paul, and the list that Danke composed is because we don’t fall for their propaganda bull$#@!. You see, we would opt to defund them and tell them to hike. Like when they didn’t even bother to knock on Ron Paul’s door.
LOL

They are the ones trying to prevent border security and bringing in millions of socialists to ensure that socialism is never reversed in the US.

You are either a useful idiot or a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[Anti Federalist]

You may now resume your normal hysteria.

You already live in North Mexico, so you don't care, I understand that.

They were preparing to ship them to Portland Maine.

I do not want to live in New Kinshasa.

Let the kiddie diddling Catholic arsonists send them to you in California.

Be a good place for them.

[spudea]

Refugees from Africa have been going to Brazil for a long time. Now some are working their way to the US. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/26901/against-the-odds-african-migration-to-south-america-grows

As for the ebola freak-out, ebola has a lantency period of two to 21 days. If you are infected, you will know in that time. But it takes them much longer than that to reach the US so if they do have ebola, they will die before they get here.

You may now resume your normal hysteria.

Some of the greatest tragedies in history were due to lack of imagination to prevent it i.e. the titanic will never sink mentality.

[Anti Federalist]

Private globalist individuals and globalists governments love love love people like you. The reason they hate people like me, Ron Paul, and the list that Danke composed is because we don’t fall for their propaganda bullshit. You see, we would opt to defund them and tell them to hike. Like when they didn’t even bother to knock on Ron Paul’s door.

Again, what propaganda bullshit?

ETA - In reading your comment again, maybe I'm not clear on what you mean.

Specifically, what propaganda are you talking and what does this propaganda say?

Outside of a few insignificant websites like this and heckling from the peanut gallery, the universal consensus on immigration/border control propaganda is exactly the opposite of mine and is in favor of your position.

The universal propaganda line from every single media organ, from every single university, from almost every single think tank and NGO, from almost all of government itself, from every sector in the "entertainment industry", from the cheap labor right like the Koch brothers to the diversity mob on the left to the "No Borders No Walls No USA at All" collapsatarian crowd...everywhere the party line is, "all immigration is good, always".

That's a pretty fucking effective propaganda campaign us vile racists have going on: propaganda that is never read, never spoken of, never seen and never talked about.

Wow, geniuses!

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I cannot afford to fly to the Congo.

You can't walk or swim from there.

Somebody got them here.

I normally am not in favor of arrests, but in this case, yes, arrest those people...they are arsonists.


They are rioters with Molotovs, too hell with arrests, I say open fire.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

We need scary stories. People need to be afraid. Then we can get a bigger government to protect them.

Yeah because allowing in muzzies did not result in a massive growth of Gov, right Zip head?

"Choke yourself"-Drill Sergeant Heartmen.

[Pauls' Revere]

Refugees from Africa have been going to Brazil for a long time. Now some are working their way to the US. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/26901/against-the-odds-african-migration-to-south-america-grows

As for the ebola freak-out, ebola has a lantency period of two to 21 days. If you are infected, you will know in that time. But it takes them much longer than that to reach the US so if they do have ebola, they will die before they get here.

You may now resume your normal hysteria.

Unless they use a form a transportation that is faster. Such as plane, boat or train, then they can transport it greater distances in a much shorter span of time.

[timosman]

https://twitter.com/penelope7usa/status/1137909923319357446

1137909923319357446

[Anti Federalist]

https://twitter.com/penelope7usa/status/1137909923319357446

1137909923319357446

She needs to re-think her Catholicism.

They are the ones funding this.

[Anti Federalist]

We need scary stories. People need to be afraid. Then we can get a bigger government to protect them.

You mean big government like what you idiots in California just passed: Medicare for illegals, paid for on MY fucking dime (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-democrats-full-health-benefits-illegal-immigrants-trump)?

Since nobody has the fucking stones to stick every one of them on a slow boat back to the Congo, then Californeey is the place they outghta be.

If there is any justice in the world, right next door to you.

Enjoy New Kinshasa.

[PAF]

Again, what propaganda bull$#@!?

ETA - In reading your comment again, maybe I'm not clear on what you mean.

Specifically, what propaganda are you talking and what does this propaganda say?

Outside of a few insignificant websites like this and heckling from the peanut gallery, the universal consensus on immigration/border control propaganda is exactly the opposite of mine and is in favor of your position.

The universal propaganda line from every single media organ, from every single university, from almost every single think tank and NGO, from almost all of government itself, from every sector in the "entertainment industry", from the cheap labor right like the Koch brothers to the diversity mob on the left to the "No Borders No Walls No USA at All" collapsatarian crowd...everywhere the party line is, "all immigration is good, always".

That's a pretty $#@!ing effective propaganda campaign us vile racists have going on: propaganda that is never read, never spoken of, never seen and never talked about.

Wow, geniuses!


AF, the propaganda being that after decades of decline, somehow when Trump was hired into the White House it suddenly exploded into waves of caravans every time he opened his mouth about (restricting the freedom to travel) walls, and such.

Eliminating the War On Drugs and Decriminalizing would have been part of an effective solution. The next phase should have been rallying the republican constituents to end welfare and incentives when the "R's" held both the house and senate. But, that did not happen, as you and I are well aware. Now we have more government "solutions", DHS, ICE, and a call out from the "party of R" promoting "Identification" and screaming about "fair" wages.

No, the "universal consensus" is NOT like mine. The "universal consensus" is to disregard Private Property Rights (eminent domain), disregard Private Contract Rights (report minimum wage violators to the govt.), call for documenting people (to make them legal), and pass "emergency" SPENDING bills to Lend a Global Hand. Those are not my solutions, they are a direct and unintended result of what you, Swordy and the rest of the "let's-pretend-we-are-republican" base is screaming for.

If people come here "illegally" and cannot provide "documentation", there is no way they can sign up at a government building and request monthly paychecks. If they do, it is the government office worker who is violating the law. If left alone to their own devices, they would either have to work or go back home, not held in government facilities and court systems on my tax dime.

[Anti Federalist]

AF, the propaganda being that after decades of decline, somehow when Trump was hired into the White House it suddenly exploded into waves of caravans every time he opened his mouth about (restricting the freedom to travel) walls, and such.

Uh huh, got it. I am well aware that migrant inflow has been ebbing and rising as driving factors change, the only thing that Trump has done, is to so utterly unhinge the Bolshevik/Jacobin left, that they took off their masks, (or let them fall by mistake) and made their end goals clear:

The total and utter lockout of my posterity in the public sphere.

That's what has made me change my tune somewhat.


No, the "universal consensus" is NOT like mine. The "universal consensus" is to disregard Private Property Rights (eminent domain), disregard Private Contract Rights (report minimum wage violators to the govt.), call for documenting people (to make them legal), and pass "emergency" SPENDING bills to Lend a Global Hand. Those are not my solutions, they are a direct and unintended result of what you, Swordy and the rest of the "let's-pretend-we-are-republican" base is screaming for.

I do not want nor care about any of that.

I want the militia called up, I want Congress to do it's duty by the constitution and I want the invaders repelled, using whatever force, including lethal force, that is required.

[PAF]

No, the "universal consensus" is NOT like mine. The "universal consensus" is to disregard Private Property Rights (eminent domain), disregard Private Contract Rights (report minimum wage violators to the govt.), call for documenting people (to make them legal), and pass "emergency" SPENDING bills to Lend a Global Hand. Those are not my solutions, they are a direct and unintended result of what you, Swordy and the rest of the "let's-pretend-we-are-republican" base is screaming for.





I do not want nor care about any of that.

I want the militia called up, I want Congress to do it's duty by the constitution and I want the invaders repelled, using whatever force, including lethal force, that is required.


Of course. And I will be forced to suffer the consequences of which you espouse, which is no different than the Bolshevik/Jacobin left of which you say you oppose.

Yet you blame the problems that you create on...."immigrants"???


I have not had my full cup of coffee yet, please don't make me upchuck :nauseated:

[Superfluous Man]

the only thing that Trump has done, is to so utterly unhinge the Bolshevik/Jacobin left, that they took off their masks, (or let them fall by mistake) and made their end goals clear:


Do you honestly dispute the fact that Trump has personally caused a huge surge in illegal immigration since he took office?

And how is it that I'm supposed to take seriously your distancing of yourself from the Bolsheviks, Jacobins, and leftists, when it is you who is propounding policies that are and always have been the hallmarks of those groups?

[fedupinmo]

Refugees from Africa have been going to Brazil for a long time. Now some are working their way to the US. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/26901/against-the-odds-african-migration-to-south-america-grows

As for the ebola freak-out, ebola has a lantency period of two to 21 days. If you are infected, you will know in that time. But it takes them much longer than that to reach the US so if they do have ebola, they will die before they get here.

You may now resume your normal hysteria.
Any chance you speak French?

[Zippyjuan]

Any chance you speak French?

Da. Ich hablo french.

[phill4paul]

Refugees from Africa have been going to Brazil for a long time. Now some are working their way to the US. https://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/insights/26901/against-the-odds-african-migration-to-south-america-grows

As for the ebola freak-out, ebola has a lantency period of two to 21 days. If you are infected, you will know in that time. But it takes them much longer than that to reach the US so if they do have ebola, they will die before they get here.

You may now resume your normal hysteria.

You, obviously, do not understand how a disease can be passed from one to another. Especially in crowded environments such as caravans.

[Anti Federalist]

Do you honestly dispute the fact that Trump has personally caused a huge surge in illegal immigration since he took office?

And how is it that I'm supposed to take seriously your distancing of yourself from the Bolsheviks, Jacobins, and leftists, when it is you who is propounding policies that are and always have been the hallmarks of those groups?

Cite the sources of Bolsheviks/Leftists/Jacobins that are in favor of tight border control.

I'll wait

[Anti Federalist]

Yet you blame the problems that you create on...."immigrants"???

Are you part of the invasion?

[Zippyjuan]

You, obviously, do not understand how a disease can be passed from one to another. Especially in crowded environments such as caravans.

If there is Ebola in the caravans, people in the caravan would be dying from Ebola before they even reached the US.

We need more ways to scare people so bigger government can protect us.

[Anti Federalist]

Do you honestly dispute the fact that Trump has personally caused a huge surge in illegal immigration since he took office?

Trump is all drunken monkey talk in a bag...I'm not sure he believes his own bullshit anymore. Outside of very few specific items, I don't believe he has personally done much of anything.

I think the enemies of the republic have taken this chance to galvanize themselves into action because of Trump, and have trebled their efforts at invasion, with an obvious degree of success.


And how is it that I'm supposed to take seriously your distancing of yourself from the Bolsheviks, Jacobins, and leftists, when it is you who is propounding policies that are and always have been the hallmarks of those groups?

Following the constitution, calling up the militia, organized and unorganized, to defend the Republic at the border against an obvious invasion, is what leftists want and propagandize for?

Prove that...show me.

[Anti Federalist]

We need more ways to scare people so bigger government can protect us.

Yeah, the idea of watching my family piss and shit their internal organs out, scares me...fucking right it does.

All it takes is one infected person...especially if not identified right away, as fever is not a presenting symptom of this variant.

So tell me, what is your solution?

[Zippyjuan]

Trump is all drunken monkey talk in a bag...I'm not sure he believes his own bull$#@! anymore. Outside of very few specific items, I don't believe he has personally done much of anything.

.

Trump is a salesman. He will say anything he thinks a buyer/ voter wants to hear. The only thing which matters is that he presents the product (himself) in the best light possible. Deny any negatives and claim credit for any possible positives- even if he did nothing in reality.

[Zippyjuan]

Yeah, the idea of watching my family piss and $#@! their internal organs out, scares me...$#@!ing right it does.

All it takes is one infected person...especially if not identified right away, as fever is not a presenting symptom of this variant.

So tell me, what is your solution?

Somebody here made that claim- I have not seen it supported (part of the fear campaign?- it seems to be working, people getting worked up) - does anybody have a link?

[juleswin]

Ebola is nothing, it's more bark than bit, it actually kills very few people and then it goes away. If you want to be scared shytless, look up jigger(Tunga penetrans) and you see stuff of nightmares. These tropical parasites would literally eat u up alive before it kills you. It has kills 100x more people than ebola and yet nobody is scared of it.

Ebola came to Nigeria and only 2 people died before it was brought under control, jiggers on the other hand took us years of vigilant action before it was partially eradicated.

[Superfluous Man]

Cite the sources of Bolsheviks/Leftists/Jacobins that are in favor of tight border control.

I'll wait

Bolsheviks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Curtain

[oyarde]

Anything that can take 21 days or more to show up and kills 3/4 of the people or more who get it sounds pretty dangerous to me and I am not a fear monger . So , ya I do not consider it wise to accept them to say the least . Anyway , in before Jules claims ebola is like the common cold .

[Superfluous Man]

Following the constitution, calling up the militia, organized and unorganized, to defend the Republic at the border against an obvious invasion, is what leftists want and propagandize for?


You're contradicting yourself. Passing laws that prohibit me from selling my home to someone from another country, or renting space out to them, or hiring them to work at my company, etc., without first getting permission from the government, is violating the Constitution, not following it. Such restrictions of our rights do not defend the republic, since the republic, to the extent such a thing exists, consists of us, the very people whose rights you wish to take away. And it's perfectly obvious that anyone who supports such policies is necessarily a leftist by virtue of that fact alone.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Ebola is nothing, it's more bark than bit, it actually kills very few people and then it goes away. If you want to be scared shytless, look up jigger(Tunga penetrans) and you see stuff of nightmares. These tropical parasites would literally eat u up alive before it kills you. It has kills 100x more people than ebola and yet nobody is scared of it.

Ebola came to Nigeria and only 2 people died before it was brought under control, jiggers on the other hand took us years of vigilant action before it was partially eradicated.

Wtf I've caught sand fleas at the beach I didn't know they could live inside my feet

[Anti Federalist]

Somebody here made that claim- I have not seen it supported (part of the fear campaign?- it seems to be working, people getting worked up) - does anybody have a link?

That was from a previous post in this thread, quoting an online blogger by the name of The Racantouer.

The Lancet states that in the last outbreak at least 10 percent presented without fever.

This could be an evolutionary modification of the filovirus.

I will re-state that: as fever is not a symptom of many cases in this new variant.

If this is proved false I will retract it.

[Anti Federalist]

You're contradicting yourself. Passing laws that prohibit me from selling my home to someone from another country, or renting space out to them, or hiring them to work at my company, etc., without first getting permission from the government, is violating the Constitution, not following it. Such restrictions of our rights do not defend the republic, since the republic, to the extent such a thing exists, consists of us, the very people whose rights you wish to take away. And it's perfectly obvious that anyone who supports such policies is necessarily a leftist by virtue of that fact alone.

I don't care about any of those policies.

Revoke them all, be my guest.

I want the militia, armed, at the border, to defend the Republic against the ongoing invasion.

[Zippyjuan]

That was from a previous post in this thread, quoting an online blogger by the name of The Racantouer.

The Lancet states that in the last outbreak at least 10 percent presented without fever.

This could be an evolutionary modification of the filovirus.

I will re-state that: as fever is not a symptom of many cases in this new variant.

If this is proved false I will retract it.

An anonymous online blog? I would take the opposite approach- assume false until proven true.

[Anti Federalist]

Bolsheviks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Curtain

Apples and Bowling Balls.

Are your seriously trying to tell me that the current left in the US and globally is not in favor unlimited migration?

[Superfluous Man]

I don't care about any of those policies.

Revoke them all, be my guest.

I want the militia, armed, at the border, to defend the Republic against the ongoing invasion.

If I want to welcome someone onto my property who is not harming you or anyone else, they aren't an invader.

[Anti Federalist]

An anonymous online blog? I would take the opposite approach- assume false until proven true.

I am still searching.

[Anti Federalist]

If I want to welcome someone onto my property who is not harming you or anyone else, they aren't an invader.

How about 100?

1000?

10,000?

[juleswin]

Wtf I've caught sand fleas at the beach I didn't know they could live inside my feet

Yea, I am sure why some people develop lesions and others do not. The point is that sand fleas are way more dangerous than ebola and yet nobody is scared of em.

[PAF]

I don't care about any of those policies.

Revoke them all, be my guest.

I want the militia, armed, at the border, to defend the Republic against the ongoing invasion.

Since you do not care about Natural Rights, the NAP, Private Property and Contract Rights, forced Documentation and mandated Government Minimum Wage, I would consider you a more severe threat. I would defend and protect your natural right to speak freely, but once you cross MY line and attempt to restrict MY *all of the above*.... yes, you have indeed shown your true colors.

[phill4paul]

If there is Ebola in the caravans, people in the caravan would be dying from Ebola before they even reached the US.

We need more ways to scare people so bigger government can protect us.

If an individual contracted it before departure from their home nation then it could easily leap frog it's way here. The fact that it hasn't changes nothing.

[Superfluous Man]

Apples and Bowling Balls.

Are your seriously trying to tell me that the current left in the US and globally is not in favor unlimited migration?

You're the one who brought up Bolsheviks.

Now when you refer to "the current left in the US and globally," just whom do you mean? Do you include big-government welfare-warfare-state defenders like Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, Coulter, Jeff Sessions, Trump, and the majority of the other Republican Party leftists occupying elected positions? Or do you cherry-pick just some other big-government welfare-state defenders on the basis of an immigration policy litmus test.

[juleswin]

If there is Ebola in the caravans, people in the caravan would be dying from Ebola before they even reached the US.

We need more ways to scare people so bigger government can protect us.

Not all of em would die before getting here. It doesn't take 20 days to cross the border. Heck American vacationing in Mexico could bring it along if its in Mexico. I know a lot people are anti govt and pro freedom, but how does one stop such a cross contamination without govt rules? if we all lived in an anarchist society, what would stop your freedom loving neighbour from inviting an ebola patient to his/her property and that said person infecting u with ebola?

[Superfluous Man]

How about 100?

1000?

10,000?

Unlimited. The number is irrelevant.

[Zippyjuan]

Not all of em would die before getting here. It doesn't take 20 days to cross the border. Heck American vacationing in Mexico could bring it along if its in Mexico. I know a lot people are anti govt and pro freedom, but how does one stop such a cross contamination without govt rules? if we all lived in an anarchist society, what would stop your freedom loving neighbour from inviting an ebola patient to his/her property and that said person infecting u with ebola?

No, not all would die. But a few. Since none have died from Ebola we can be pretty sure they are not bringing Ebola with them. They were checked out at a hospital anyways.

This is just fear mongering.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/04/african-migrants-border-trump-immigration-nuevo-laredo-congo/1319996001/


For years, migrants escaping war and hardship from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, Angola and other African countries have streamed to the Nuevo Laredo crossing to try to enter the USA, Smith said. Unlike other migrants, the Africans rarely cross between ports of entry, choosing instead to abide by U.S. and Mexican law and wait their turn at the border, he said.

Thousands of migrants flocked to Brazil to work in the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro, Smith said. After the Olympics, many of them headed to the USA. The Congolese often speak broken Portuguese, a little French and some Spanish, Smith said. He has struggled to find interpreters who speak Lingala, their native tongue.

Unlike migrants from Central America and Mexico, the African migrants rarely have a contact in the USA waiting to sponsor them, Smith said. Central Americans stay at his shelter for a few days before connecting with friends or families; the African migrants are usually there for a week or more, he said.

When the Africans heard about caravans of Central American migrants headed to the USA, many of them rushed to the border in hopes of getting there first – only to be stuck in limbo, Smith said.

“They’re getting the worst end of the stick,” Smith said.

[Danke]

Ebola is nothing, it's more bark than bit, it actually kills very few people and then it goes away. If you want to be scared shytless, look up jigger(Tunga penetrans) and you see stuff of nightmares. These tropical parasites would literally eat u up alive before it kills you. It has kills 100x more people than ebola and yet nobody is scared of it.

Ebola came to Nigeria and only 2 people died before it was brought under control, jiggers on the other hand took us years of vigilant action before it was partially eradicated.

Some my best friends are jiggers.

[juleswin]

No, not all would die. But a few. Since none have died from Ebola we can be pretty sure they are not bringing Ebola with them. They were checked out at a hospital anyways.

This is just fear mongering.

Nobody is saying they are here now, but the potential is there when u have unauthorized migrants moving from one continent to another.

[juleswin]

Some my best friends are jiggers.

Ofc, Danke is best buddies with the jewish gangsters aka jiggers :)

[Zippyjuan]

You are more likely to be killed by lightning.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/10/us/motorcyclist-killed-lightning-florida-trnd/index.html


A motorcyclist is killed by a bolt of lightning in Florida

A man was killed after he was struck by lightning while riding his motorcycle in northeast Florida.

The 45-year-old man was traveling south on Interstate 95 around 2 p.m. Sunday when he was struck, the Florida Highway Patrol reported.

Lightning killed 47 people in Florida between 2008 and 2017, the highest number of fatalities of any state. Widely considered the lightning capital of the U.S. for its sheer density of flashes, the state's heat, humidity and sea breezes from its dual coasts make severe weather events more likely.
Lightning shattered the cyclist's helmet, officials said. He swerved into the median and was thrown from the vehicle.

Authorities haven't identified the man, from Charlotte, North Carolina. He died at the scene.

The department tweeted a photo of the man's helmet, punctured by the strike.

https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/190610144724-florida-motorcyclist-lightning-strike-exlarge-169.jpg

[Anti Federalist]

Since you do not care about Natural Rights, the NAP, Private Property and Contract Rights, forced Documentation and mandated Government Minimum Wage, I would consider you a more severe threat. I would defend and protect your natural right to speak freely, but once you cross MY line and attempt to restrict MY *all of the above*.... yes, you have indeed shown your true colors.

I am in favor of revoking all the laws the SM mentioned.

[Anti Federalist]

Unlimited. The number is irrelevant.

What is my recourse when 10,000 migrants living in your home start to affect my property?

[phill4paul]

If I want to welcome someone onto my property who is not harming you or anyone else, they aren't an invader.

Then fly them onto your property and make sure they remain there. And never, ever, apply for government welfare to take care of them. Problem solved!

[Superfluous Man]

What is my recourse when 10,000 migrants living in your home start to affect my property?

The exact same as if I personally affect your property. Not more, not less.

[Superfluous Man]

Then fly them onto your property and make sure they remain there. And never, ever, apply for government welfare to take care of them. Problem solved!

Why imprison them there? Why should all the other American property owners who want to welcome them onto their properties as well not be allowed to?

If you do mean to allow that as well, and you truly don't support any laws that would restrict the rest of us from welcoming immigrants onto our properties, or selling that property to them, then good. I'm glad to see that you've come around.

[specsaregood]

What is my recourse when 10,000 migrants living in your home start to affect my property?

You die, just like every other civilization that allowed migrants to overwhelm them.

[juleswin]

The exact same as if I personally affect your property. Not more, not less.

And what is the answer?

[Superfluous Man]

And what is the answer?

There can't be a one-size-fits all answer for something as vague as "affects my property."

Criminal actions that actually harm a person or property warrant a use of force to stop them or to retaliate, and demanding just compensation. But this doesn't allow us to engage in some kind of pre-crime enforcement where we punish someone preemptively for a crime we think they'll commit in the future on account of prejudices we have against some group they belong to. Nor does it allow for counting something like lowering the resale value of your house without actually damaging anything there just because of who lives on a nearby property.

[Brian4Liberty]

Cite the sources of Bolsheviks/Leftists/Jacobins that are in favor of tight border control.

I'll wait

Easy.

Stalin! Putin!

———

On the opposite, open borders Bolshevik/leftist side in the US, they are almost all Trotskyites, whether socialists or neoconservatives. Trotsky wanted global socialism, and their belief is that socialism and communism only works when it is global with no competition. Stalin was willing to have borders and a cease fire with the rest of the world. Stalin bad.

Thus, the two prong attack by the Trotskyites. The neoconservatives focus on world conquest, the socialists focus on converting the US to socialism. Borders are anathema to both prongs, as they are all globalists.


Bolsheviks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Curtain

Damn those Stalinist nationalists! Putin! Russia!

[phill4paul]

Why imprison them there? Why should all the other American property owners who want to welcome them onto their properties as well not be allowed to?

If you do mean to allow that as well, and you truly don't support any laws that would restrict the rest of us from welcoming immigrants onto our properties, or selling that property to them, then good. I'm glad to see that you've come around.

Imprison? They are getting a better life? No? Just on your property and on your dime. The other property owners can fly them in as well. To their own property. As long as they, too, keep them on their property and do not ask for any taxpayer assistance. No use of a public hospital unless you foot the bill.

How many are you now supporting upon your property? Or are you just farting in the wind with possibilities and "maybe's?"

[Brian4Liberty]

What say you?


No shooting of people. And no entry unless properly screened, including common sense disease controls, especially people who may flee quarantine zones. Visitors, vacationers, business visits welcome.

Permanent immigration? Controlled and orderly, up to and including periodic moratoriums.

[Superfluous Man]

Imprison? They are getting a better life? No? Just on your property and on your dime. The other property owners can fly them in as well. To their own property. As long as they, too, keep them on their property and do not ask for any taxpayer assistance. No use of a public hospital unless you foot the bill.

How many are you now supporting upon your property? Or are you just farting in the wind with possibilities and "maybe's?"

Why is flying them in necessary? As long as they're not trespassing the properties of people who don't welcome them, they should be able to move freely everywhere else, by air, land, or sea. If you want to keep them off your property, then fine. But everywhere else in the universe is none of your business.

[phill4paul]

Why is flying them in necessary? As long as they're not trespassing the properties of people who don't welcome them, they should be able to move freely everywhere else, by air, land, or sea. If you want to keep them off your property, then fine. But everywhere else in the universe is none of your business.

Our transport system is "We" based. I don't want them transported across it. And so here we are.

[Swordsmyth]

Yea, I am sure why some people develop lesions and others do not. The point is that sand fleas are way more dangerous than ebola and yet nobody is scared of em.

What is their rate of death?

[Swordsmyth]

Why is flying them in necessary? As long as they're not trespassing the properties of people who don't welcome them, they should be able to move freely everywhere else, by air, land, or sea. If you want to keep them off your property, then fine. But everywhere else in the universe is none of your business.
No, your fundamental premise ignores their effect on the politics of MY country that leads to the loss of MY rights, I have every right to keep them out of MY country.

[phill4paul]

No shooting of people. And no entry unless properly screened, including common sense disease controls, especially people who may flee quarantine zones. Visitors, vacationers, business visits welcome.

Permanent immigration? Controlled and orderly, up to and including periodic moratoriums.

And what if they crossed and just kept walking? Can they be forcefully detained in other ways? Handcuffed and if resistant beaten or tasered?

[Swordsmyth]

You are more likely to be killed by lightning.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/10/us/motorcyclist-killed-lightning-florida-trnd/index.html
That was true of the Black Plague and is true currently, but there was a time in between when it wasn't, the same thing can happen with Ebola, it's the same with all plagues.

[Swordsmyth]

And what if they crossed and just kept walking? Can they be forcefully detained in other ways? Handcuffed and if resistant beaten or tasered?
You can't afford to rule anything out.

That doesn't mean that shooting people should be your first resort but it might become necessary.

[Swordsmyth]

No, not all would die. But a few. Since none have died from Ebola we can be pretty sure they are not bringing Ebola with them. They were checked out at a hospital anyways.

This is just fear mongering.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/06/04/african-migrants-border-trump-immigration-nuevo-laredo-congo/1319996001/

The Ebola outbreak is getting out of control, if it starts to spread we could easily be overwhelmed with more cases than we have the facilities to safely handle.

[Swordsmyth]

And what if they crossed and just kept walking? Can they be forcefully detained in other ways? Handcuffed and if resistant beaten or tasered?
If the Ebola outbreak gets out of control then any physical interaction could become dangerous to those enforcing border controls.

[Swordsmyth]

Since you do not care about Natural Rights, the NAP, Private Property and Contract Rights, forced Documentation and mandated Government Minimum Wage, I would consider you a more severe threat. I would defend and protect your natural right to speak freely, but once you cross MY line and attempt to restrict MY *all of the above*.... yes, you have indeed shown your true colors.
We have a Natural Right to control our territory and exclude those who would violate our rights or endanger us.

It is YOU who doesn't care about OUR rights or even or lives, YOU are the dangerous one and you continue to demonstrate that ever more clearly.

[Zippyjuan]

The Ebola outbreak is getting out of control, if it starts to spread we could easily be overwhelmed with more cases than we have the facilities to safely handle.

So you live in Congo.

[Swordsmyth]

Yea, I am sure why some people develop lesions and others do not. The point is that sand fleas are way more dangerous than ebola and yet nobody is scared of em.
Can they be transmitted from one person to another through contact?

[Swordsmyth]

So you live in Congo.
There is nothing that will keep it contained there, germs don't understand lines on a map.

[Zippyjuan]

Can they be transmitted from one person to another through contact?

Requires fluid to fluid contact. https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/06-october-2014/en/


The Ebola virus is transmitted among humans through close and direct physical contact with infected bodily fluids, the most infectious being blood, faeces and vomit.

The Ebola virus has also been detected in breast milk, urine and semen. In a convalescent male, the virus can persist in semen for at least 70 days; one study suggests persistence for more than 90 days.

Saliva and tears may also carry some risk. However, the studies implicating these additional bodily fluids were extremely limited in sample size and the science is inconclusive. In studies of saliva, the virus was found most frequently in patients at a severe stage of illness. The whole live virus has never been isolated from sweat.

Not an airborne virus

Ebola virus disease is not an airborne infection. Airborne spread among humans implies inhalation of an infectious dose of virus from a suspended cloud of small dried droplets.

This mode of transmission has not been observed during extensive studies of the Ebola virus over several decades.

WHO is not aware of any studies that actually document this mode of transmission. On the contrary, good quality studies from previous Ebola outbreaks show that all cases were infected by direct close contact with symptomatic patients.

[Swordsmyth]

Requires fluid to fluid contact. https://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/06-october-2014/en/
And?

I said "contact".

[Zippyjuan]

And?

I said "contact".

You must contact their fluids. Touching their skin will not infect you.

[Swordsmyth]

You must contact their fluids. Touching their skin will not infect you.
It will if they are bleeding, they tend to bleed a lot.

It spreads dangerously easily.

[Zippyjuan]

It will if they are bleeding, they tend to bleed a lot.

It spreads dangerously easily.

If you like to play with bleeding bodies.

[phill4paul]

You can't afford to rule anything out.

That doesn't mean that shooting people should be your first resort but it might become necessary.

I'm at the point of creating a "no man's zone." Setting up anti-personnel devises at random points. With signs warning about trespassing along the whole way. It would only take one or two killings of trespasses for the word to get out that crossing at any point might be fatal. Anti-personnel devises are cheap, and if applied randomly, give the perception that any crossing other than legal might be fatal.
Because that is what it is gonna take.
It's a hard course. But when the number of trespasses coming per month equal the number of my counties population hard measures need to be taken.

"A Republic, if you can keep it."

[Brian4Liberty]

And what if they crossed and just kept walking? Can they be forcefully detained in other ways? Handcuffed and if resistant beaten or tasered?

I’d expect it to work the same as a person trying to enter a concert without a ticket. Turned away, with an escalating list of options if a person becomes violent or tries to break through.

As it stands now, it’s like walking up to a concert gate without a ticket and them saying, “no problem, we’ll figure it out in a couple of years, take this pass for free entry to any show, and be sure to stop by the concessions for free food and beverages.”

[Zippyjuan]

I'm at the point of creating a "no man's zone." Setting up anti-personnel devises at random points. With signs warning about trespassing along the whole way. It would only take one or two killings of trespasses for the word to get out that crossing at any point might be fatal. Anti-personnel devises are cheap, and if applied randomly, give the perception that any crossing other than legal might be fatal.
Because that is what it is gonna take.
It's a hard course. But when the number of trespasses coming per month equal the number of my counties population hard measures need to be taken.

"A Republic, if you can keep it."

Half of all those currently in the country entered legally and overstayed visas. Most of those coming now are crossing at legal points and asking for asylum rather than sneaking across.

[Swordsmyth]

I'm at the point of creating a "no man's zone." Setting up anti-personnel devises at random points. With signs warning about trespassing along the whole way. It would only take one or two killings of trespasses for the word to get out that crossing at any point might be fatal. Anti-personnel devises are cheap, and if applied randomly, give the perception that any crossing other than legal might be fatal.
Because that is what it is gonna take.
It's a hard course. But when the number of trespasses coming per month equal the number of my counties population hard measures need to be taken.

"A Republic, if you can keep it."
It may be necessary because the crisis has been allowed to grow so bad.

[Zippyjuan]

It may be necessary because the crisis has been allowed to grow so bad.

Numbers were actually worse under Bush.

[Swordsmyth]

Numbers were actually worse under Bush.
That doesn't mean anything except that the crisis has been very bad for a very long time.

[Zippyjuan]

That doesn't mean anything except that the crisis has been very bad for a very long time.

"Crisis" is usually something new and dramatic requiring immediate action. The "Crisis" has been going on for decades. And was actually improving significantly until Trump took office.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/16889/production/_107279229_border-nc.jpg

[phill4paul]

Half of all those currently in the country entered legally and overstayed visas. Most of those coming now are crossing at legal points and asking for asylum rather than sneaking across.

No. Most entered illegally. They were allowed to stay legally. THAT's the problem. Most coming are NOT crossing at legal check points. They come across the border at cartel points and wait for our impotent system to process them. If not, WHY would anyone choose to enter other than through a check point?

[Swordsmyth]

"Crisis" is usually something new and dramatic requiring immediate action. The "Crisis" has been going on for decades. And was actually improving significantly until Trump took office.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/16889/production/_107279229_border-nc.jpg

If you are dying of cancer it is a crisis whether you have just contacted it or whether you have had it for years.

[Zippyjuan]

No. Most entered illegally. They were allowed to stay legally. THAT's the problem. Most coming are NOT crossing at legal check points. They come across the border at cartel points and wait for our impotent system to process them. If not, WHY would anyone choose to enter other than through a check point?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216



Visa Overstays Outnumber Illegal Border Crossings, Trend Expected to Continue

The majority of immigrants settling in the U.S. without authorization are first coming to the country legally, raising questions about the effectiveness of President Donald Trump's plan to build a wall on the U.S.-Mexican border.

Crossing the border is not the way "the large majority of persons now become undocumented," the Center for Migration Studies (CMS) said in a recent report. Two-thirds of those who joined the undocumented population did so by entering with a valid visa and then overstaying their period of admission, the center repored.

Overstays have exceeded those entering illegally every year since 2007, and there have been half a million more overstays than illegal entries since 2007.

The study by the CMS divides the 2014 population into two groups: those who enter with a valid temporary visa, but subsequently “overstay” and establish residence in the U.S. without authorization and those who “enter without inspection” (EWI) through the southern border without proper immigration documents.

According to the report, in 2014, 42 percent of all undocumented persons in the U.S. were “overstays.”

Of those who arrived or joined the undocumented population in 2014, 66 percent were overstays.

This trend is expected to continue.

The CMS has previously reported on the dramatic decline in the U.S. undocumented population between 2008 and 2014.

more at link.

[phill4paul]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/visa-overstays-outnumber-illegal-border-crossings-trend-expected-continue-n730216



more at link.

If they are "over stays" they aren't "undocumented." WTF? And you link an article quoting 2014 figures. Just shut the fuck up already. Your red bar is deserved. Can't believe I defnded you so long ago. When you actually sourced relevant data.

[Zippyjuan]

If they are "over stays" they aren't "undocumented." WTF? And you link an article quoting 2014 figures. Just shut the $#@! up already. Your red bar is deserved. Can't believe I defnded you so long ago. When you actually sourced relevant data.

Two different groups. Undocumented did not enter the country legally- overstays did- and currently there are twice as many overstaying as entering illegally. The biggest country for overstayers is Canada- with twice as many as second place Mexico.

[phill4paul]

Two different groups. Undocumented did not enter the country legally- overstays did- and currently there are twice as many overstaying as entering illegally. The biggest country for overstayers is Canada- with twice as many as second place Mexico.

And your data base comes from 2014. Catch up. Or shut the fuck up.

[Zippyjuan]

And your data base comes from 2014. Catch up. Or shut the $#@! up.

Do you have newer data? Can you show it is no longer correct?

DHS figures for 2017 (latest available) https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/18_0807_S1_Entry-Exit-Overstay_Report.pdf


DHS has determined that there were 52,656,022 in-scope nonimmigrant admissions1 to the United States through air or sea POEs with expected departures occurring in FY 2017, which represents the majority of air and sea annual nonimmigrant admissions. Of this number, DHS calculated a total overstay rate of 1.33 percent, or 701,900 overstay events.

That does not include people who came by automobile or train or even foot.


Canada and Mexico Overstay Rates

Unlike other countries, a majority of travelers from Canada and Mexico enter the United States by land. Figures pertaining to Canada and Mexico are presented separately from the other countries due to the fact that air and sea information represent a smaller portion of the Canadian and Mexican travel population. For Canada, the FY 2017 Suspected InCountry Overstay rate for those traveling through air and sea POEs is 1.01 percent of 9,215,158 expected departures. For Mexico, the FY 2017 Suspected In-Country Overstay rate for those traveling through air and sea POEs is 1.63 percent of 2,916,430 expected departures. This represents only travel through air and sea POEs and does not include data on land border crossings.

[juleswin]

Can they be transmitted from one person to another through contact?

Yes, jiggers are way more contagious than ebola and yet nobody says anything about it. With ebola, its not just contact but you need body fluids from an infected person to blood or mucus membrane of victim. There have been a few cases of tourists in South America coming home with it but giving the right conditions, the jigger can spread from human to a suitable wildlife host and before you know it, it would be as normal as getting lime disease and we don't want that.

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, jiggers are way more contagious than ebola and yet nobody says anything about it. With ebola, its not just contact but you need body fluids from an infected person to blood or mucus membrane of victim. There have been a few cases of tourists in South America coming home with it but giving the right conditions, the jigger can spread from human to a suitable wildlife host and before you know it, it would be as normal as getting lime disease and we don't want that.
We should be concerned about it, but how easy is it to cure and what is its death rate.
Ebola is very difficult to cure and has an 80% death rate.

[juleswin]

We should be concerned about it, but how easy is it to cure and what is its death rate.
Ebola is very difficult to cure and has an 80% death rate.

The death rate is high but it is also easily preventable. I think we should also pay attention to other infectious diseases just not ebola.

[Zippyjuan]

If they are "over stays" they aren't "undocumented." WTF? And you link an article quoting 2014 figures. Just shut the $#@! up already. Your red bar is deserved. Can't believe I defnded you so long ago. When you actually sourced relevant data.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings


For 7th Consecutive Year, Visa Overstays Exceeded Illegal Border Crossings

January 16, 2019

As the Trump administration demands funding for a border wall to stop illegal immigration, a new study finds that for the seventh consecutive year, visa overstays far exceeded unauthorized border crossings.

The report released Wednesday by the Center for Migration Studies of New York finds that from 2016-2017, people who overstayed their visas accounted for 62 percent of the newly undocumented, while 38 percent had crossed a border illegally.

"It is clear from our research that persons who overstay their visas add to the US undocumented population at a higher rate than border crossers. This is not a blip, but a trend which has become the norm," said Donald Kerwin, CMS' executive director, in a statement. "As these numbers indicate, construction of hundreds of more miles of border wall would not address the challenge of irregular migration into our country, far from it."

The study also finds that the undocumented population from Mexico fell by almost 400,000 people in 2017 and that since 2010, the number of undocumented from that country fell by 1.3 million.

"We have made tremendous progress since the year 2000 in reducing undocumented immigration into this country," the study's author, CMS senior fellow Robert Warren, told NPR.



The study also finds that in 2017, for the first time, the unauthorized population from Mexico constituted less than one-half of all the undocumented people in the U.S.

At the same time, Mexico was the leading country for visa overstays in 2016, "about twice the number from India, China and Venezuela," according to the study. The number of undocumented people coming from Venezuela, which is wracked by political and economic turmoil, increased from 60,000 in 2013 to 145,000 in 2017. Virtually all are visa overstays.

More at link.

[phill4paul]

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings





More at link.

Just shut the fuck up with your NPR (Globalist) misinterpretation already. There's a reason you are in the red. This is one of them.

[Zippyjuan]

Just shut the $#@! up with your NPR (Globalist) misinterpretation already. There's a reason you are in the red. This is one of them.

I see you are unable to provide any data to disprove mine. Thanks for trying.

But if you don't like NPR, what about the conservative Washington Examiner? (i also included a link earlier to the actual DHS report)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/visa-overstays-outpaced-illegal-border-crossings-in-2017-dhs


Visa overstays outpaced illegal border crossings in 2017: DHS

More people overstayed their visas in 2017 than crossed into the United States illegally that year, the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday.

DHS said almost 702,000 people who entered the U.S. legally last year didn't leave the country in time, and were deemed to be in the U.S. illegally. That's just a bit more than 1 percent of the 52.7 million people who came as students, or for business or personal reasons last year.

That's more than the 361,993 who tried to enter the U.S. illegally last year, most of whom tried to enter at the southwest border.

The nonimmigrant group with the highest overstay rate was student and exchange visa recipients. Four percent of the 1.6 million people who received those visas stayed past the expiration of their visa.

The total overstay number was broken down by Visa Waiver Program nations, which are countries whose citizens can go to the U.S. for up to 90 days without a visa, and non VWP countries.

DHS said that among citizens from the 38 VWP countries who were allowed to come and go without a visa, 0.51 percent — around 110,000 of the 22.5 million — overstayed. The rate of overstay from non-VWP countries was nearly four times higher, 1.91 percent.

About 1 percent of those who entered from Canada legally and were expected to leave last year did not, and the corresponding rate from Mexico was 1.6 percent.



Fox News? (don't have any Russian sources at this time). https://www.foxnews.com/politics/more-than-700k-foreign-nationals-overstayed-visas-in-2017-dhs-says


More than 700K foreign nationals overstayed visas in 2017, DHS says

[phill4paul]

I see you are unable to provide any data to disprove mine. Don't have the time to educate you. Last month over 125k illegals crossed the border. This is a current sum. The current population of my ENTIRE county. Play your word games, your ineffectual 5yrs. ago data means nothing.

[Zippyjuan]

Don't have the time to educate you. Last month over 125k illegals crossed the border. This is a current sum. The current population of my ENTIRE county. Play your word games, your ineffectual 5yrs. ago data means nothing.

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided including DHS and Fox News.

Border apprehensions include asylum seekers who are trying to enter the country legally. Apprehended does not mean they made it into the country illegally. In 2018, that number was 400,000. Also if the same person was caught five times, that counts as five separate apprehensions. Visa overstayers did remain in the country.

https://www.wola.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Image1.png

[phill4paul]

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided.

Those 700k didn't come in in a six month period and had only a 6 month stay. Stop with your bullshit already. Over 100k a month trespassing over the border does not equal the number of overstays that have been here for years. Unless you're CNN.

[phill4paul]

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided.

So what year were they granted a Visa and how long was it for? Prior to 2017? For 1 yr. or two? Or more. Stop with your bullshit.

[Zippyjuan]

So what year were they granted a Visa and how long was it for? Prior to 2017? For 1 yr. or two? Or more. Stop with your bull$#@!.

I see you are unable to provide alternative figures. Thank you for trying.

The figure for overstays was the total who were supposed to leave during that year- not a total of all those in the country who overstayed a visa at any point in the past. Lengths of visas varies. More info at the DHS report link posted earlier. To save you having to look for it, here it is: https://www.dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/18_0807_S1_Entry-Exit-Overstay_Report.pdf

[Swordsmyth]

The death rate is high but it is also easily preventable. I think we should also pay attention to other infectious diseases just not ebola.
I take it you mean "not just Ebola" rather than "just not Ebola".

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I see you are unable to provide alternative figures.


For who? You? Why would he do that?

[juleswin]

I take it you mean "not just Ebola" rather than "just not Ebola".

Yes, that is what I meant to say. I think a medical screening and maybe a 30 day quarantine should be implemented for anyone coming from a disease ravaged region. What do u say?

[Swordsmyth]

Yes, that is what I meant to say. I think a medical screening and maybe a 30 day quarantine should be implemented for anyone coming from a disease ravaged region. What do u say?
That sounds sensible.

[Anti Federalist]

Numbers were actually worse under Bush.

Wait a minute...the rest of the one worlders here are telling me that migration has "exploded" under Trump...ya'll need to keep your stories straight.


Do you honestly dispute the fact that Trump has personally caused a huge surge in illegal immigration since he took office?

[Anti Federalist]

You die, just like every other civilization that allowed migrants to overwhelm them.

Of course...some of us thinking more clearly about this realize that.

[Swordsmyth]

Wait a minute...the rest of the one worlders here are telling me that migration has "exploded" under Trump...ya'll need to keep your stories straight.
Just like "they come here to work and don't get welfare" vs. "ending incentives is all we need to do".
Or "the wall won't keep them out" vs. "the wall will keep us in".

[Anti Federalist]

dupe

[Anti Federalist]

Top Execs of 180 Companies: Abortion Necessary to Be Successful in Business (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/06/10/top-execs-of-180-companies-abortion-necessary-to-be-successful-in-business/)

Now...these are the same execs that claim that unlimited immigration is the only way their businesses will stay afloat, to keep a fresh supply of cogs for the corporate gears.

So, they fund and support abortion, they fund and support feminism, they fund and support weirdosexualism...and then complain there aren't enough new worker beetles to go around without importing millions of third worlders.

Don't tell me there is no plan there.

[TheTexan]

If we don't put a stop to these immigrants, they're gonna turn our Great country into some kind of tyrannical socialist hellhole!

We certainly wouldn't want that to happen!!

[timosman]

If we don't put a stop to these immigrants, they're gonna turn our Great country into some kind of tyrannical socialist hellhole!

We certainly wouldn't want that to happen!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BFILhtWdq0

[Swordsmyth]

If we don't put a stop to these immigrants, they're gonna turn our Great country into some kind of tyrannical socialist hellhole!

We certainly wouldn't want that to happen!!
It can get much worse.

How would you like Texas to be a second Kalifornia?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/16/686056668/for-seventh-consecutive-year-visa-overstays-exceeded-illegal-border-crossings





More at link.


We are taking about other groups then people from Mexico, stop lying. And we could easily end this by issuing an arrest warrant for those who overstay and a 1 strike policy, but in classic sperg fashion "Well that will work, so we can not allow it" nonsense.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided including DHS and Fox News.

Border apprehensions include asylum seekers who are trying to enter the country legally. Apprehended does not mean they made it into the country illegally. In 2018, that number was 400,000. Also if the same person was caught five times, that counts as five separate apprehensions. Visa overstayers did remain in the country.

https://www.wola.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Image1.png


Juan...Just remember these lies when in the near future you are removed from the nation you sought to undermine....

You can preach all the open border nonsense to the Mexicans.....In Mexico, where they and YOU belong.

[TheTexan]

It can get much worse.

How would you like Texas to be a second Kalifornia?

Would there be a UBI ?

[Swordsmyth]

Would there be a UBI ?
If you vote hard for it.

[Superfluous Man]

Wait a minute...the rest of the one worlders here are telling me that migration has "exploded" under Trump...ya'll need to keep your stories straight.

One worlders? All this time, ever since your Bolshevik immigration stance, you've been telling us that this is why you did a 180. You used to support Ron Paul's immigration position. And then lately you've been telling us that you changed because the numbers of brown people coming here peacefully to work have gotten so high that it's reached the point of being an invasion. You were fine with it back in 2008 and 2012 because it hadn't reached that point yet. Need me to find your quotes?

[Superfluous Man]

We are taking about other groups then people from Mexico, stop lying. And we could easily end this by issuing an arrest warrant for those who overstay and a 1 strike policy, but in classic sperg fashion "Well that will work, so we can not allow it" nonsense.

In order for that to work you have to have a way to identify someone as a person who overstayed a visa. How do you do that without requiring that everyone in the country, including natural-born citizens, be able to provide paperwork showing they're here lawfully.

[Superfluous Man]

In 2017, 700,000 overstayed their visas. Links provided including DHS and Fox News.

Border apprehensions include asylum seekers who are trying to enter the country legally. Apprehended does not mean they made it into the country illegally. In 2018, that number was 400,000. Also if the same person was caught five times, that counts as five separate apprehensions. Visa overstayers did remain in the country.

https://www.wola.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Image1.png

Are those fiscal years or calendar years? So far, in fiscal year 2019, there have already been over 600k border apprehensions. And in calendar year 2019 it's over 400k. So it's definitely on pace to surpass any of the Obama years and to rival the higher Bush years.

[Anti Federalist]

One worlders? All this time, ever since your Bolshevik immigration stance, you've been telling us that this is why you did a 180. You used to support Ron Paul's immigration position. And then lately you've been telling us that you changed because the numbers of brown people coming here peacefully to work have gotten so high that it's reached the point of being an invasion. You were fine with it back in 2008 and 2012 because it hadn't reached that point yet. Need me to find your quotes?

Two things wrong in your analysis:

A - I still support Ron Paul's position, which is bring the troops home and use them to defend the border. You folks no longer support that, not me.

B - I have changed my tune because it has been made clear by both the colored people you speak of and the people that control them that their goal is NOT to come here peacefully and work, but rather to displace and replace me and my posterity, to shut me and mine out of the nation that we built, and in the worst cases I have seen, just kill us outright, which is usually what happens in these scenarios. THAT is what has changed.

[Superfluous Man]

A - I still support Ron Paul's position, which is bring the troops home and use them to defend the border. You folks no longer support that, not me.
Defending the border from an actual invading military force, as Ron Paul proposed in the quotes you have in mind, is not really what we're debating here. And you know full well that he doesn't support preventing peaceful people coming here to work from doing so, whether by the military shooting them in the face, as you propose, or by any other means either. His policy is to let them come.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that I no longer support defending people and property from actual acts of violence. I have never suggested that. What I don't support is redefining nonviolent acts as violent ones, as an excuse for having the very kind of police state that once upon a time you were famous here for being against.



B - I have changed my tune because it has been made clear by both the colored people you speak of and the people that control them that their goal is NOT to come here peacefully and work, but rather to displace and replace me and my posterity, to shut me and mine out of the nation that we built, and in the worst cases I have seen, just kill us outright, which is usually what happens in these scenarios. THAT is what has changed.

Oh really? So for those who do come here peacefully to work, you support allowing them to do that?

[Zippyjuan]

Wait a minute...the rest of the one worlders here are telling me that migration has "exploded" under Trump...ya'll need to keep your stories straight.

The asylum seekers are not trying to get in illegally but want in legally. Their numbers have definitely been surging. They go to official crossing points and seek to turn themselves in so they can request asylum. A judge will decide if they deserve it or not- 90% are rejected. The problem is that there are so many waiting for trials- over a million now.

[Zippyjuan]

Are those fiscal years or calendar years? So far, in fiscal year 2019, there have already been over 600k border apprehensions. And in calendar year 2019 it's over 400k. So it's definitely on pace to surpass any of the Obama years and to rival the higher Bush years.

Fiscal years. FY 2017 ended October of that year.

[Zippyjuan]

We are taking about other groups then people from Mexico, stop lying. And we could easily end this by issuing an arrest warrant for those who overstay and a 1 strike policy, but in classic sperg fashion "Well that will work, so we can not allow it" nonsense.

Ron Paul: http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm


Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk

Immigrants who can't be sent back due to the magnitude of the problem should not be given citizenship--no amnesty should be granted. Maybe a "green card" with an asterisk could be issued. This in-between status, keeping illegal immigrants in limbo, will be said that it will create a class of 2nd-class citizens. Yet it could be argued that it may well allow some immigrants who come here illegally a beneficial status without automatic citizenship--a much better option than deportation.

Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.156 , Apr 19, 2011

Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen

Even with a healthy economy and stricter border controls, the issue of what to do with twelve-million-plus illegals already here would persist. One side says use the U.S. Army, round them up, and ship them home. The other side says give them amnesty, make them full-fledged citizens, and reward the lawbreakers, thus insulting and unfairly penalizing those who have patiently waited and obeyed our immigration laws. The first choice--sending twelve to fifteen million illegals home--isn't going to happen and should not happen. Neither the determination or the ability to accomplish it exists. Besides, if each case is looked at separately, we would find ourselves splitting up families and deporting some who have lived here for decades, if not their entire life, and who never lived for any length of time in Mexico.
Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.153 , Apr 19, 2011

[tod evans]

I'm willing to trade one dozen GS-6 and above government 'workers' for every immigrant.

For every immigrant that wants to bring their family it goes up to a dozen and a half GS-6 plus their families and they must never be allowed back.

[Swordsmyth]

The asylum seekers are not trying to get in illegally but want in legally. Their numbers have definitely been surging. They go to official crossing points and seek to turn themselves in so they can request asylum. A judge will decide if they deserve it or not- 90% are rejected. The problem is that there are so many waiting for trials- over a million now.

They come in illegally and turn themselves in when caught, they also are trying to get in illegally by filing false asylum claims.

[Swordsmyth]

Ron Paul: http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm

That is one of Ron's few bad positions, any reward to illegals will encourage more.

[Swordsmyth]

Defending the border from an actual invading military force, as Ron Paul proposed in the quotes you have in mind, is not really what we're debating here. And you know full well that he doesn't support preventing peaceful people coming here to work from doing so, whether by the military shooting them in the face, as you propose, or by any other means either. His policy is to let them come.

I'm not sure where you got the idea that I no longer support defending people and property from actual acts of violence. I have never suggested that. What I don't support is redefining nonviolent acts as violent ones, as an excuse for having the very kind of police state that once upon a time you were famous here for being against.



Oh really? So for those who do come here peacefully to work, you support allowing them to do that?
Ron was clear that he wanted the military to secure our border against illegals and since you can't read minds you have to limit how many foreigners come here in order to prevent them from imposing tyranny.

[PAF]

Ron was clear that he wanted the military to secure our border against illegals and since you can't read minds you have to limit how many foreigners come here in order to prevent them from imposing tyranny.


Yet you can read minds and blanket statement everybody.


You never answered SM's question:



So for those who do come here peacefully to work, you support allowing them to do that?

[Swordsmyth]

Yet you can read minds and blanket statement everybody.
No, I can see statistics and real world results and calculate what effects an influx of random members of particular groups will have on my rights.



You never answered SM's question:
Yes I did:


since you can't read minds you have to limit how many foreigners come here in order to prevent them from imposing tyranny.

[eleganz]

The Left: Stop caging the sad, crying ebola children!

[PAF]

I can see statistics and real world results and calculate what effects an influx of random members of particular groups will have on my rights.



Satellite map shows 15,000 aircraft as they travel around:

6499

[RestorationOfLiberty]

One worlders? All this time, ever since your Bolshevik immigration stance, you've been telling us that this is why you did a 180. You used to support Ron Paul's immigration position. And then lately you've been telling us that you changed because the numbers of brown people coming here peacefully to work have gotten so high that it's reached the point of being an invasion. You were fine with it back in 2008 and 2012 because it hadn't reached that point yet. Need me to find your quotes?

And why is it wrong to chance his stance when the enemy is getting ready to out vote us?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Ron Paul: http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm

And that makes his stance any less wrong?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

In order for that to work you have to have a way to identify someone as a person who overstayed a visa. How do you do that without requiring that everyone in the country, including natural-born citizens, be able to provide paperwork showing they're here lawfully.

The private sector has it, when you enter at customs, you scan your visa, the data is entered, the clock runs backwards, at the 2 weeks left you get a friendly call telling you you have 2 weeks left, failure to leave will result in you getting a warrant. Stop playing stupid, stop acting like "Well how can that be workable" it is, you just do not want to happen because you want the full effect of mass immigration.

"Everyone has to be in the database", no they dont, why would native born people be inside of a Visa holder database? HOW could they be?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

The asylum seekers are not trying to get in illegally but want in legally. Their numbers have definitely been surging. They go to official crossing points and seek to turn themselves in so they can request asylum. A judge will decide if they deserve it or not- 90% are rejected. The problem is that there are so many waiting for trials- over a million now.

"Well we can not get in legally, so lets just rush the border, because I do not like the rules of another nation, they must not apply to me".

No 90% of them do not get denied, stop lying commie.

[Swordsmyth]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Zippyjuan http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=6811551#post6811551)

Ron Paul: http://www.ontheissues.org/TX/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm






And that makes his stance any less wrong?

Even Ron said there could come a time when HIS stance would change:

I remember I got into trouble with Libertarians because I said there may well be a time when immigration is like an invasion and we have to treat it differently. Ron Paul on Meet The Press 23 Dec 2007 (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22342301/ns/meet_the_press/t/meet-press-transcript-dec/#.XKK-FFVKjcs)

[Zippyjuan]

"Well we can not get in legally, so lets just rush the border, because I do not like the rules of another nation, they must not apply to me".

No 90% of them do not get denied, stop lying commie.

I stand corrected. Two thirds get rejected.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/asylum-seekers-asylum-denials-hit-record-high-in-2018-as-trump-administration-tightens-immigration-policy-as-the-caravan-arrives/

https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/12/04/d0e0be95-379d-492f-8ff3-d2ab87eeb235/thumbnail/620x349/eb7b0e8ecccf7b1cb77ee92f82acf129/asylum-denials-fy2018-trac-syracuse-university-figure01.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

The private sector has it, when you enter at customs, you scan your visa, the data is entered, the clock runs backwards, at the 2 weeks left you get a friendly call telling you you have 2 weeks left, failure to leave will result in you getting a warrant. Stop playing stupid, stop acting like "Well how can that be workable" it is, you just do not want to happen because you want the full effect of mass immigration.

"Everyone has to be in the database", no they dont, why would native born people be inside of a Visa holder database? HOW could they be?
We could require them to post a bond that would cover the costs of deportation and a reward for their capture.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

We could require them to post a bond that would cover the costs of deportation and a reward for their capture.

That would work....So Naturally Losertards and cuckservatives will not support it and leftists will fight it fang and claw.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

I stand corrected. Two thirds get rejected.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/asylum-seekers-asylum-denials-hit-record-high-in-2018-as-trump-administration-tightens-immigration-policy-as-the-caravan-arrives/

https://cbsnews1.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2018/12/04/d0e0be95-379d-492f-8ff3-d2ab87eeb235/thumbnail/620x349/eb7b0e8ecccf7b1cb77ee92f82acf129/asylum-denials-fy2018-trac-syracuse-university-figure01.jpg


https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/30/nearly-nine-in-ten-illegal-aliens-recently-released-into-u-s-not-showing-up-to-court-hearings/ https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/24/dhs-100-border-crossers-with-children-being-released-into-u-s-given-work-permits/ (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/30/nearly-nine-in-ten-illegal-aliens-recently-released-into-u-s-not-showing-up-to-court-hearings/%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/24/dhs-100-border-crossers-with-children-being-released-into-u-s-given-work-permits/)

[PAF]

We could require them to post a bond that would cover the costs of deportation and a reward for their capture.



That would work....So Naturally Losertards and cuckservatives will not support it and leftists will fight it fang and claw.


Don't forget people like me.

[Swordsmyth]

Ebola has spread to Uganda (https://afro.who.int/news/confirmation-case-ebola-virus-disease-uganda)

[Anti Federalist]

550 African migrants were just caught in Texas. DHS head says they aren’t being screened for Ebola

https://www.conservativereview.com/news/550-african-migrants-just-caught-texas-dhs-head-says-arent-screened-ebola/

Daniel Horowitz · June 12, 2019

The border crisis is no longer exclusively a problem of illegal Central American migrants. As word spreads of the collapse of border enforcement, the number of migrants from Africa continues to increase. The threat of bringing in dangerous diseases is higher than ever, yet there are no mandatory and universal screenings, quarantines, or detention before illegal immigrants are released into our communities, often within hours.

According to preliminary weekly data used internally by Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and given to CR by a Border Patrol agent who must remain anonymous because he is not authorized to speak to the press, over 550 African migrants were apprehended in Texas in just one week – from May 30 through June 5. The lion’s share were from the Democratic Republic of Congo, the country with the worst Ebola outbreak in the world. Here’s the breakdown:

Angola – 101
Cameroon – 6
Democratic Republic of Congo – 314
Gabon – 1
Niger – 1
Republic of Congo – 130

The Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC), not to be confused with the smaller separate nation of “Republic of Congo,” which is to the immediate west of DRC, is currently experiencing the worst Ebola outbreak ever. As of June 4, according to the World Health Organization, there were a total of 2,025 confirmed and reported cases of Ebola, including 1,357 reported deaths.

In addition to Ebola, the DRC is experiencing 87,000 cases of measles, claiming the lives of 1,500. Angola and Cameroon are also experiencing measles outbreaks, according to the Centers for Disease Control (CDC).

Yet local media in San Antonio reported on Friday that hundreds of these African migrants were seen dropped off at bus stations in San Antonio. I confirmed with CBP last week that there is no special screening, extra scrutiny, or quarantine required of those coming from African countries more than from anywhere else.

Overall, a record 20,274 illegal aliens were apprehended in Texas during this seven-day period. That is an annualized pace of over one million just for the state of Texas. Honduras had the highest single-country total, accounting for 38 percent of all illegal immigrants caught in the Lone Star State. Honduras is experiencing a mumps outbreak, and many of the caravans left from San Pedro Sula, a northern Honduran town that had 1,336 reported cases of mumps as of April. As of Monday, Arizona officials confirmed 47 cases of mumps in Pinal County, mainly in ICE facilities, a 10-year high for the state. Dan McLaughlin, the mayor of Uvalde, Texas, confirmed to CR at least two known cases among the illegal immigrants held in the detention facility in his city. According to a recent DHS inspector general report, there is “a high incidence of illness among the staff” in some facilities.

Also, as of May 29, there were 51 confirmed cases of mumps among the general population in Hidalgo County, Texas, the busiest illegal alien smuggling corridor along the Southwest border. The disease has spread to every major city in the county.

Then there is Venezuela. Due to the collapse of the economy and civil society, the country is experiencing outbreaks of all sorts of diseases. The number of migrants is beginning to tick up, with 47 apprehended in Texas the first week of June.

It is simply astounding that hundreds of thousands are coming from the most disease-prone countries under the worst traveling arrangements imaginable and there is no quarantine, as required by law. Acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan finally admitted publicly at yesterday’s Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that CBP is not screening anyone for diseases. “The public health risk—family units are released into our communities with unknown vaccination status and without a standard medical examination for communicable diseases of public health concern, as well as a public health risk of disease outbreak at processing facilities,” McAleenan said in his written testimony.

So why is McAleenan himself not requiring such a process, and if such a process is unfeasible given the numbers, shouldn’t these people be inadmissible rather than being released? Asylum does not trump the medically inadmissible statutes of 8 U.S.C. 1182. In other words, if the criminal smuggling conspiracy is so successful that it results in catastrophic numbers jamming our border, why should that strengthen the claim of the aliens to be released without following medical quarantine rather than strengthen the claim of the American sovereign to keep them out?

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1138499536618446848

1138499536618446848

[Anti Federalist]

And the wretched Catholic Charities group that is behind a great deal of this, gets funded with tax dollars.

When the number of migrants coming to Riverside County surged in April, local officials reached out to the state for financial help. About $521,000 was awarded to Catholic Charities, a faith-based nonprofit that operates shelters. The group has taken in 4,500 migrants since October. (https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-immigration-migrants-surge-blythe-20190611-story.html)

[Swordsmyth]

https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/refugees%202018.png

[jmdrake]

I will say this about Ebola. I did a bit a digging a few weeks ago. Remember the big outbreak when Obama was president? At first it was going to ravage Africa. Obama sent workers from the CDC over there to contain it. Two of them got infected. They got "the cure." Then, miraculously, the outbreak stopped as soon as it started. Ebola is 100% curable which means it was probably created as a bioweapon. The "cure" these two Americans were given was a blood transfusion from Ebola survivors. But, it turns out, that was just bollocks. Ebola kills you from dehydration. With proper hydration anybody can be cured of it.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/ebola-doctor-reveals-how-infected-americans-were-cured/

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Don't forget people like me.

We forget wrench thrower and sabotagers like you

[tommyrp12]

Portland Expo to serve as emergency shelter as influx of asylum seekers creates ‘a very critical situation’
Portland receives 86 asylum seekers from the southern border in 3 days, and the city manager says the city manager of San Antonio, Texas, told him to expect as many as 150 more to arrive soon. (https://www.sunjournal.com/2019/06/11/portland-receives-67-asylum-seekers-in-2-days-from-southern-border/)


Portland city councilors directed City Manager Jon Jennings on Tuesday night to take emergency action to set up an additional shelter at the Portland Expo to accommodate more than 200 asylum seekers from the southern border who are arriving in the city.

Jennings said the city’s staff already has begun working with officials from the Red Cross and the Maine Center for Disease Control and Prevention to staff the emergency shelter. The staff also would reach out to surrounding communities and community groups for assistance in handling the unexpected and unprecedented influx.

“We are, I think, in a very critical situation in this city,” Jennings told councilors.

The Expo would be a temporary shelter, available until the Maine Red Claws begin their season in October.

As the meeting got underway, Jennings told the council’s Health & Human Services and Public Safety Committee that 72 asylum seekers had arrived since Sunday and reported to the city’s Family Shelter in Bayside. By the time the 3 1/2-hour meeting concluded, that total had risen to 86.

And that does not include another 150 asylum seekers en route from San Antonio, Texas, city officials said.

The current number of families, primarily from the sub-Saharan countries of Angola and Democratic Republic of Congo, have put the shelter over its capacity, including a 75-person overflow space at the Salvation Army. Jennings said the city’s General Assistance office would likely be opened to accommodate the families.

The influx is not only putting the city’s shelter over capacity. It’s also expected to significantly impact the Portland Community Support Fund, which is believed to be the only local, municipally funded assistance program for asylum seekers in the U.S.

Asylum seekers, who are fleeing violence and persecution in their homelands, are not able to work until at least six months after they file asylum applications. As a result, they often end up in Portland’s homeless shelter and rely on state-funded General Assistance or the locally funded Portland Community Support Fund for basic necessities, such as food and medicine.

...............

In the past, many families presenting themselves at the southern border would be granted “parole” after passing an initial interview with immigration agents, which would make them eligible for the General Assistance program as soon as they arrived.

But Family Shelter Program Manager Jeff Tardiff said in an email Monday that none of the nine families, totaling 39 people, who showed up on Sunday had been paroled by border agents before being allowed to proceed to Portland.

“Please note that all families who arrived yesterday are not paroled and do not appear to have any GA eligibility,” Tardiff said Monday morning in an email to Jennings and other city staff.

.............

The Portland Press Herald/Maine Sunday Telegram reported in December about the increasing numbers of families from sub-Saharan Africa making the long and dangerous journey through Central America and Mexico to the southern U.S. border, where they ask for asylum. Many of the migrants ask to be sent to Portland, Maine, because of the support the city provides and because of the immigrant community that has taken root here.

“We heard that Maine was a place where a lot of people have been able to get asylum,” a man named Matare told the Press Herald after arriving in Portland with his wife and four children.

............

The current influx of arrivals comes a week after a CBS affiliate in San Antonio reported last week that officials were struggling to handle an influx of about 350 asylum seekers from Angola and the Congo. The station quoted an assistant city manager as saying they hoped to be able to send many of the asylum seekers to Portland.

“The plan was 350 of them would travel from San Antonio to Portland. When we reached out to Portland, Maine, they said, ‘Please don’t send us any more. We’re already stretched way beyond our capacity,” interim Assistant City Manager Colleen Bridger told KENS 5.

City Hall Communications Director Jessica Grondin pushed back on the assertion that any city official discouraged San Antonio from sending people to Portland. Jennings said in his email to councilors that the city manager in San Antonio told him on Monday to expect 150 asylum seekers in the coming days.

“He said this is just the beginning as there are currently between 1,500-2,000 African migrants at the border seeking asylum with the probability of more to come,” Jennings said in his email.

Jennings said he was told by the San Antonio manager that U.S. Customs and Border Protection changed its policy on asylum seekers. As of June 4, border agents are releasing individuals to a point of destination in the U.S. without verifying a sponsor. And he said that thousands of people are “being bused to San Antonio for distribution throughout the U.S. according to the city manager.”

.............

It’s unclear why the new arrivals do not have paroled status or if it is related to any change in federal border policy. The Trump administration has instead been working to extend detention and expand its network detention facilities as ways to release fewer asylum seekers.

In April, President Trump threatened to send immigrants to so-called sanctuary cities, a term given to communities that have policies preventing local police officers from assisting federal immigration authorities.

In response to Trump’s plan, Strimling was quoted as saying “bring them on.”

Portland is not considered a sanctuary city, but does promote itself as open and welcoming to everyone, including immigrants, refugees and asylum seekers. A city ordinance says that city officials will not ask about a person’s immigration status, but it does allow local police officers to assist immigration authorities when asked.

Sue Roche, executive director of the Portland-based nonprofit Immigrant Legal Advocacy Project, said asylum seekers who pass an initial interview with an immigration official are considered paroled and can be released with a notice to appear in immigration court. However, individuals can simply be released with a notice to appear in court without formally being paroled.

“We have seen this in the past as well, although it is happening much more frequently now,” Roche said. “We are also seeing increased inconsistency in how (Customs and Border Protection) is handling each individual case. This does not change the fact that the person is an asylum seeker and that they are going to go through the same immigration court process in which they will submit an asylum application that will be adjudicated by an immigration judge.”

[Anti Federalist]

Jesus fucking Christ...

[dannno]

Thank you Q team!

Ebola Is Now Curable. Here’s How the New Treatments Work

https://www.wired.com/story/ebola-is-now-curable-heres-how-the-new-treatments-work/?verso=true



Q Warning of Bio-weapon False Flag
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?537765-Q-Warning-of-Bio-weapon-False-Flag

[Anti Federalist]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/ml2Aqt7vueEtTvZ7aMcgm45odnQ=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/T5GQS6FVDYI6TD3MPAUONDFRL4.jpg

[AdamL]

1156308803920510977

[Zippyjuan]

Has the US Ebola outbreak started yet?

[tfurrh]

All in favor of importing more of them, give a thumbs up.

Zippyjuan
:up:

RonZeplin
:up:

PAF
:up:

Superfluous Man
:up:

Ender
:up:

TheCount
:up:

tfurrh
:up:

invisible
:up:

Anyone else?

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/HeftyReasonableFiddlercrab-small.gif

[Swordsmyth]

Why Is The Federal Govt. Hiring "Ebola Airport Screeners?" (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-03/why-federal-govt-hiring-ebola-airport-screeners)

[Zippyjuan]

Why Is The Federal Govt. Hiring "Ebola Airport Screeners?" (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-03/why-federal-govt-hiring-ebola-airport-screeners)

Been in effect at selected airports for years. https://www.caduceusstaffing.com/blog/caduceus-partners-with-cdc-for-airport-ebola-screening


October 8, 2015

Caduceus is under contract with the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to provide screening and education for passengers returning from one of the Ebola affected countries. Watch the video for more information.