Trump Nominates Gun Control Supporter to ATF, More GOA Updates

[Origanalist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxUOGR4TH4U&feature=youtu.be


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxUOGR4TH4U&feature=youtu.be

[Origanalist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI

[jkr]

HES AWFUL
glad i didnt vote for him

[Anti Globalist]

Wtf was he thinking and who told him that was a good idea?

[spudea]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI

a BS clickbait complaint drama video mostly about the words of Trump. Very little about actual actions. What actions have occurred since 2017 to increase gun control? bump stock ban? a meaningless accessory to 99% of gun owners and you can bumpfire WITHOUT ONE. Silencer ban? Trump also said he doesn't like the idea but would look into it, when he learns suppressors are already heavily restricted, no further action will happen. By contrast imagine a HRC presidency and all the actions she would take to increase gun control.

[Origanalist]

a BS clickbait complaint drama video mostly about the words of Trump. Very little about actual actions. What actions have occurred since 2017 to increase gun control? bump stock ban? a meaningless accessory to 99% of gun owners and you can bumpfire WITHOUT ONE. Silencer ban? Trump also said he doesn't like the idea but would look into it, when he learns suppressors are already heavily restricted, no further action will happen. By contrast imagine a HRC presidency and all the actions she would take to increase gun control.

Are you saying the Presidents words don't matter? His openly calling for confiscation without due process is of no concern? Did you watch the first video?

[Ender]

a BS clickbait complaint drama video mostly about the words of Trump. Very little about actual actions. What actions have occurred since 2017 to increase gun control? bump stock ban? a meaningless accessory to 99% of gun owners and you can bumpfire WITHOUT ONE. Silencer ban? Trump also said he doesn't like the idea but would look into it, when he learns suppressors are already heavily restricted, no further action will happen. By contrast imagine a HRC presidency and all the actions she would take to increase gun control.

LOL- still on the -"but Hillary woulda been worse" carp?

So why is Assange being jailed & tortured while Hilary runs free- who's fault is that.....?

[TheTexan]

Are you saying the Presidents words don't matter? His openly calling for confiscation without due process is of no concern?

He was only talking about taking guns away from people who might use those guns to kill people.

Myself, I would only ever use guns to kill deer. Certainly not people.

[enhanced_deficit]

There would be some bleeding of Right support no doubt, but silverlining here may be that Trump support among democrats/liberals should increase by such courageous moves (alongwith other bold liberals outreach initiatives like global campaign to sell pro-LGBTQ T-shirts next to MAGA hats, pro-abortion leaning/CFR member SCOTUS picks etc).


'Gun-grabber-in-chief': Conservatives turn on Trump as threat to confiscate guns prompts Second Amendment-related outrage

'He's a fraud and has betrayed us twice now'

Thursday 1 March 2018

Donald Trump has sparked fury among gun owners and conservatives after repeatedly backing proposals to tighten gun control laws.

The US President called for a “beautiful” bill (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-take-guns-mental-health-florida-school-shooting-due-process-a8233751.html) that would expand background checks on gun buyers, prevent mentally ill people from accessing firearms, and restrict teenagers from buying assault weapons.

The 71-year-old's comments in the hour-long televised meeting with politicians put him at odds with the National Rifle Association (NRA), the gun lobbying organisation which made record contributions to his 2016 presidential campaign.

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Trump's angered his base over guns, but it could be the making of him (http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/trump-nra-take-guns-white-house-background-checks-meeting-angry-supporters-a8233856.html)
Trump says 'Take guns first, worry about due process later' (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-take-guns-mental-health-florida-school-shooting-due-process-a8233751.html)
Trump says some in Congress are petrified by NRA (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-congress-petrified-nra-power-age-buy-gun-violence-a8233761.html)



Michael Hammond, lawyer for Gun Owners of America, another gun group with more than a million members, accused Mr Trump of becoming the “gun-grabber-in-chief”.

“If he succeeds in doing everything he talked about in the meeting, he will far surpass Barack Obama (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/BarackObama) as an enemy of the Second Amendment,” he said.
After the meeting, far-right news outlet Breitbart (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/breitbart) ran a headline reading: "Trump the Gun Grabber: Cedes Dems' Wish List— Bump Stocks, Buying Age, 'Assault Weapons,' Background Checks.”
Many conservatives also took to social media to express their outrage.
Tonight's Podcast: Trump was terrible today during a bipartisan meeting on guns, said due process should come after gun confiscation, more. https://t.co/5ZYR7TNFiZ #tcot (https://twitter.com/hashtag/tcot?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
— Joe Walsh (@WalshFreedom) March 1, 2018 (https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/969074767268638720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Democrat Joe Manchin and Republican Pat Toomey, who were both at the White House meeting, now plan to reintroduce a failed 2013 bill that would impose background checks for all commercial gun purchases.
Mr Trump accused Mr Toomey of being “afraid of the NRA” after the senator told the President his bill did not include a ban on 18- to 21-year-olds buying assault weapons.
“Some of you people are petrified of the NRA. You can’t be petrified,” he added.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a8234606.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/trump-gun-control-confiscate-second-amendment-right-bear-arms-nra-conservative-republicans-a8234606.html)




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[spudea]

LOL- still on the -"but Hillary woulda been worse" carp?

So why is Assange being jailed & tortured while Hilary runs free- who's fault is that.....?

I addressed Trump first and see you have no response to my question. I think it is still an important contrast to simply point out what could have been with HRC. I am still jubilantly happy HRC is not president, sorry you don't feel the same. I bet Assange is glad HRC is not president, despite his current predicament, considering she was all for assassinating him by drone.

[spudea]

Are you saying the Presidents words don't matter? His openly calling for confiscation without due process is of no concern? Did you watch the first video?

As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.

[dannno]

So why is Assange being jailed & tortured

Can you point out on a map where that is occurring for me?

[Ender]

Can you point out on a map where that is occurring for me?

Uh...the UK....read much?

https://www.lewrockwell.com/?s=assange

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535117-Ron-Paul-Are-US-UK-Trying-To-Kill-Assange&p=6808623#post6808623

[Sammy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI

That's bullshit...

[dannno]

Uh...the UK....read much?

https://www.lewrockwell.com/?s=assange

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535117-Ron-Paul-Are-US-UK-Trying-To-Kill-Assange&p=6808623#post6808623

So Trump is responsible for what is happening in the UK?

[Origanalist]

As is regularly pointed out on this forum, Trump is an idiot, a liar, and regularly uses bloated exaggeration so why would anyone put much stock into what he says? I think it's easy to figure Trump out. Sorry you are still confused.

https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/891970180455964672

https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/983801142573539328

[Ender]

So Trump is responsible for what is happening in the UK?

YES.

The US bribed Ecuador to throw out Assange- that has been posted all over the forum.

[dannno]

YES.

The US bribed Ecuador to throw out Assange- that has been posted all over the forum.

Trump is involved in all of this how exactly?

[RonZeplin]

Presidential advisers. :bigpoo::bigpoo:

https://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Fahrenheit-11-9-1.jpg

Take the Guns :down:

[RonZeplin]

Trump is involved in all of this how exactly?

New York Values. :bigpoo:

Trump is the chief executive you know, the buck stops at Donnell's desk.

[Ender]

Trump is involved in all of this how exactly?

Uh.... Trump is President of the US 0f A.


Former Congressman Ron Paul says US and UK authorities 'could be trying to kill Julian Assange' and compares his treatment to murdered prisoner Otto Warmbier as the U.N. warns the WikiLeaks founder is showing symptoms of 'psychological torture'
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tml#newcomment

[Ender]

New York Values. :bigpoo:

Trump is the chief executive you know, the buck stops at Donnell's desk.

LOL- amazing how nobody ever asked the question when Obama was Pres. :speaknoevil:

[dannno]

Uh.... Trump is President of the US 0f A.

Could you try answering the question a little more precisely?

[Origanalist]

Trump is involved in all of this how exactly?

If Trump isn't involved with what we're doing around the world why do we have a president? What kind of blind spot enables you to think he has no part in this?

[dannno]

If Trump isn't involved with what we're doing around the world why do we have a president?

For show?



What kind of blind spot enables you to think he has no part in this?

What makes you think he does?

[Origanalist]

For show?




What makes you think he does?

For show...so, there really is no difference between him and Hillary then? Everything would have been the same? Trump is just some impotent figurehead?

[dannno]

For show...so, there really is no difference between him and Hillary then? Everything would have been the same? Trump is just some impotent figurehead?

There are a few things he can do.

[spudea]

If Trump isn't involved with what we're doing around the world why do we have a president? What kind of blind spot enables you to think he has no part in this?

Regarding the actions of US officials, maybe because it was a sealed indictment from ~2012? You expect him to go back in time and reverse that? They have an indictment and significant evidence. At this point, any president would have to let the process play out and use the pardon power if needed. The actions of the UK and other foreign authorities? He only has the diplomatic channels and those are not public, but still he is hamstrung by the indictment.

[Origanalist]

Regarding the actions of US officials, maybe because it was a sealed indictment from ~2012? You expect him to go back in time and reverse that? They have an indictment and significant evidence. At this point, any president would have to let the process play out and use the pardon power if needed. The actions of the UK and other foreign authorities? He only has the diplomatic channels and those are not public, but still he is hamstrung by the indictment.

What? The thing being discussed was the US government bribing Ecuador to toss Assange out. 2012 has nothing to do with it.

[spudea]

What? The thing being discussed was the US government bribing Ecuador to toss Assange out. 2012 has nothing to do with it.

I've followed the links in this thread, none lead to information about USA bribing Ecuador. Please advise.

[Origanalist]

I've followed the links in this thread, none lead to information about USA bribing Ecuador. Please advise.

He was indicted on 17 more charges just this year, the US is currently pursuing on new charges that have nothing to do with 2012. You're a smart guy, do a forum search.

[Ender]

Regarding the actions of US officials, maybe because it was a sealed indictment from ~2012? You expect him to go back in time and reverse that? They have an indictment and significant evidence. At this point, any president would have to let the process play out and use the pardon power if needed. The actions of the UK and other foreign authorities? He only has the diplomatic channels and those are not public, but still he is hamstrung by the indictment.


The date – April 11, 2019 – will live in infamy in the annals of Western “values” and “freedom of expression.” The image is stark. A handcuffed journalist and publisher dragged out by force from the inside of an embassy, clutching a Gore Vidal book on the History of the US National Security State.

The mechanism is brutal. WikiLeaks co-founder Julian Assange was arrested because the United States demanded this from the Tory British government, which for its part meekly claimed it did not pressure Ecuador to revoke Assange’s asylum.

The US magically erases Ecuador’s financial troubles, ordering the IMF to release a providential $4.2-billion loan. Immediately after, Ecuadorian diplomats “invite” the London Metropolitan Police to come inside their embassy to arrest their long-term guest.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/04/no_author/you-have-the-right-to-always-remain-silent/

And several articles/vids from The Liberty Report:

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/apps/search?q=assange+ecuador

Ron Paul:


The treacherous government of Ecuador has opened Julian Assange's private quarters at its UK embassy up to US investigators, who have seized Assange's legal defense documents, medical records, and electronic devices. In what kind of court is the prosecution allowed to see the defendant's case before the trial? A Soviet courtroom? A kangaroo court?

[spudea]

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/04/no_author/you-have-the-right-to-always-remain-silent/

And several articles/vids from The Liberty Report:

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/apps/search?q=assange+ecuador

Ron Paul:

Thanks for link. Trump or USA controls the IMF? Seems like a baseless accusation.

[jmdrake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_CQeoG5mcI

Bump!

[kcchiefs6465]

Thanks for link. Trump or USA controls the IMF? Seems like a baseless accusation.
Lol