Trump would lose to Biden, could to Beto, Warren in TEXAS -falling out of love with president

[RonZeplin]

New York Values detected, ratings plummet. -38 electoral votes.

Trump would lose to Biden in TEXAS say pollsters as deep-red state is falling out of love with the president and even Beto and Elizabeth Warren could beat him there

In an unlikely turn of events, Former Vice President Joe Biden (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/joe-biden/index.html) would beat President Donald Trump (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/donald_trump/index.html) in the deep red state of Texas, according to a new poll released Wednesday.

Biden has 48 per cent support in Texas compared to Trump’s 44 per cent, a Quinnipiac University (https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000016b-28da-dc80-a3ff-fbfedc700000) poll shows.

The incumbent president is also in some too-close-to-call matchups with six other 2020 Democratic primary candidates in a state he beat Hillary Clinton (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/hillary_clinton/index.html) by 9 percentage points in 2016.

If a Biden-Trump general election were to happen in 2020 and Texas were to swing for Biden with 48 per cent of the vote, like indicated in the poll, it would produce an outcome not seen in the border state since 1980.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/06/15/14455402-7112021-image-a-44_1559831208316.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/06/15/14455438-7112021-image-m-43_1559831202673.jpg
A new Quinnipiac poll shows former Vice President Joe Biden (left) would beat President Donald Trump (right) in the general elections in the deep red state of Texas

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/06/16/14461034-7112021-image-a-60_1559835446181.jpg
Biden earned 48 per cent in the poll compared to Trump's 44 per cent. Although no other candidate outright beat him, six other candidates come close and are within the margin of error of 3.4 percentage points

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/06/15/14455390-7112021-image-a-45_1559831301611.jpg
Surprisingly, progressive Senator Elizabeth Warren is the second most likely to give Trump a run for his money in the Lone Star State

It would also be a huge flip for the state if they were to go for a Democratic candidate in 2020 after 52.2 per cent voted for Trump in 2016.

Texas is an important state for the GOP because it is one of the most populous states that continuously votes red, giving a major boost in electoral votes – 38 in the last election.

A candidate needs 270 Electoral College votes to win an election, and if Trump had not secured Texas in 2016, and lost those 38 votes to Clinton, he would have ultimately lost the election with 268 to Clinton’s 270.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7112021/Poll-says-Trump-lose-Biden-TEXAS-Warren-beat-deep-red-state.html

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Should of worked on the Wall, deported the invaders, ended birthright citizenship, stayed out the M.E and not fucked with the 2nd Amendment donnie.

This is what you get when you listen to Iserali Firster Jared Donnie.

[dannno]

Do you need me to post the 500+ threads about Donald Trump's poll numbers in the 2016 election that were all complete and total horse shit?

I mean, if you want to post this crap, go ahead. But you should probably put a warning that these polls are really unreliable. Otherwise it just makes you look retarded.

[Swordsmyth]

LOL

[Sammy]

Mark my words:
Trump will be the last Republican President...Because non whites vote 70-90% for the Democratic Party!

[TER]

Lol. Thanks for the laugh!

[euphemia]

Polls are lies with numbers attached.

[AngryCanadian]

Surprisingly, progressive Senator Elizabeth Warren is the second most likely to give Trump a run for his money in the Lone Star State
That same loon faker that claimed she belonged to a native tribe? lolz. arent these the same pollasters who did such a great job in 2016? lol.


Biden has 48 per cent support in Texas compared to Trump’s 44 per cent, a Quinnipiac University poll shows.
Ah isnt that the same pollster who famously claimed Hillary Clintion would gain 52% or more in 2016 but then got less? are these polls just polling leftists?

[AngryCanadian]

Polls are lies with numbers attached.

Just like in Canada.
Polls only one side of the line but not the other.

[RonZeplin]

Mark my words:
Trump will be the last Republican President...Because non whites vote 70-90% for the Democratic Party!


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/06/15/14455406-7112021-image-a-52_1559833043024.jpghttps://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/06/06/15/14455416-7112021-image-m-51_1559833038682.jpg
Former Texas Representative Beto O'Rourke (left) and South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg would also make good adversaries against Trump in the border state and could even beat him within the poll's margin of error


Beto Than Trump. :star::star:

[TER]

Polls are lies with numbers attached.

You would think people by now would learn. TDS is a sickness.

[Swordsmyth]

Beto Than Trump. :star::star:
You sure do love wide open borders candidates.

[donnay]

They also said Hillary was going to win in 2016...Blah...Blah...Blah.

[Ender]

Do you need me to post the 500+ threads about Donald Trump's poll numbers in the 2016 election that were all complete and total horse $#@!?

I mean, if you want to post this crap, go ahead. But you should probably put a warning that these polls are really unreliable. Otherwise it just makes you look retarded.

Uh, speaking of retarded, Trump DID lose the popular vote....the polls were fairly correct in that..........

[TER]

Uh, speaking of retarded, Trump DID lose the popular vote....the polls were fairly correct in that..........

I wouldn’t be surprised if you took away the voter fraud, he would have won the popular vote as well. I can’t prove it. Just a gut feeling.

[RonZeplin]

You sure do love wide open borders candidates.

You love 'em. Never said I did.

[dannno]

Uh, speaking of retarded, Trump DID lose the popular vote....the polls were fairly correct in that..........

No, they weren't correct at all. They had her way ahead on both popular vote and electoral votes.

Trump didn't try and get the popular vote. If the contest was to get the popular vote, he would have gotten it. Instead he trounced her on the electoral vote, because that is the only thing that mattered. If it were the popular vote, Trump would have spent more time in dark blue states. And won.

But the point is, the polling that was done that said Hillary had a 90-98% chance of winning was based on electoral votes. Those polls were horrendously wrong. If you were here reading my posts before that, I was telling everybody they were wrong, and why. It was because they poll too many Democrats.

[Swordsmyth]

You love 'em. Never said I did.
Projection.

You keep promoting people who promise to throw the gates wide open and hand out amnesty like candy as "better than Trump" even though he is doing everything he can to stop the invasion.

[RonZeplin]

Projection.

You keep promoting people who promise to throw the gates wide open and hand out amnesty like candy as "better than Trump" even though he is doing everything he can to stop the invasion.

You're the only one here talking about loving Beto & Buttplug, you own that concept.

[Swordsmyth]

You're the only one here talking about loving Beto & Buttplug, you own that concept.
Denial will do you no good.
You are the one promoting them.

[eleganz]

Errmagerd, a news headline agrees with my political bias so I'm just going to post it right away! ...said every deranged leftist ever...

Fake news.

Did you even bother to look at the party registration numbers before posting that? Throwing out all conventional wisdom just to score a political point.

When you're so delusional that you think Trump would actually lose Texas in 2020, the state with the largest border with Mexico. 1 Million illegals estimated to pass through in 2019 alone.

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This woman was in a state of extreme TDS psychosis, she stabbed herself 3 times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcvrzqEjqTA

[dannno]

Fake news.

When you're so delusional that you think Trump would actually lose Texas in 2020, the state with the largest border with Mexico. 1 Million illegals estimated to pass through in 2019 alone.

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This woman was in a state of extreme TDS psychosis, she stabbed herself 3 times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcvrzqEjqTA



This is a pattern that happens over and over that was discussed thoroughly during the last election and we were all proven to be correct. The polls always poll too many Democrats, so they always come out in favor of Democrats by 5-15%.

People who keep posting these crap poll threads are completely delusional, or they are trolls.

[Anti Globalist]

Nah Democrats won't be winning Texas anytime soon. Give it another decade or two and that may end up being the case.

[eleganz]

Nah Democrats won't be winning Texas anytime soon. Give it another decade or two and that may end up being the case.

No, but the poll said....



But on another topic, I thought we all learned to look at cross tabs and methodology from our mistakes in the RP1 & 2 days. Some did not bother to look, even though we all know Texas is as red as California is blue.

[oyarde]

Oyarde predicts E warren , beto , or bootyjudgewill not win a state in the primary and that biden or sanders do not reach 50 percent in texas in the general election .

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Mark my words:
Trump will be the last Republican President...Because non whites vote 70-90% for the Democratic Party!


"But if we just repeat talking points in Spanish they will gladly vote for us because everyone wants the same things"

[Zippyjuan]

This is a pattern that happens over and over that was discussed thoroughly during the last election and we were all proven to be correct. The polls always poll too many Democrats, so they always come out in favor of Democrats by 5-15%.

People who keep posting these crap poll threads are completely delusional, or they are trolls.

Polls never get a perfect sample (say 31% Democrats, 36% independents, 34% Republican) so they weight the results (counting the over-sampled group less in the final numbers). Asking a few more Democrats does not skew the results when you do that. The polls did have a margin of error (often 3% but that depends on the sample size) and final results were within the margin of error.

[eleganz]

Beto is the cringey-est of them all, tbh. Even worse than Warren.

[phill4paul]

For fucks sake. Media manipulates the masses in the drive to socialism every. single. day. Why would you not think polling companies on which the media relies on wouldn't?

[TER]

For fucks sake. Media manipulates the masses in the drive to socialism every. single. day. Why would you not think polling companies on which the media relies on wouldn't?

Yeah but Zippy said it was within the margin of error

Bwahahahahahahaha literally crying here in laughter!!!!

[Anti Federalist]

Mark my words:
Trump will be the last Republican President...Because non whites vote 70-90% for the Democratic Party!

Yup, this.

[dannno]

Polls never get a perfect sample (say 31% Democrats, 36% independents, 34% Republican) so they weight the results (counting the over-sampled group less in the final numbers). Asking a few more Democrats does not skew the results when you do that. The polls did have a margin of error (often 3% but that depends on the sample size) and final results were within the margin of error.

Ya, as I've said hundreds of fucking times to you already, they weight the results too heavily Democrat.

Saying Trump has a 90%+ chance of losing based on all the polls does not put them in the margin of error.

If all of the errors are in one direction, that signals there is a problem.

[tfurrh]

Texans are divided in their support for a border wall. In fact, most polls from the last two years have shown a small majority opposing a wall. I doubt Texas will go blue in 2020, but I do think if Biden gets the nod, he win in the general election. Hillary was just a stupid move by the DNC.

[Swordsmyth]

Texans are divided in their support for a border wall. In fact, most polls from the last two years have shown a small majority opposing a wall. I doubt Texas will go blue in 2020, but I do think if Biden gets the nod, he win in the general election. Hillary was just a stupid move by the DNC.
The Demoncrats don't have a single candidate that stands a chance against Trump.

[invisible]

You keep promoting people who promise to throw the gates wide open and hand out amnesty like candy as "better than Trump" even though he is doing everything he can to stop the invasion.

Escalating obomba's NWO foreign policy that creates more immigrants, then offering them welfare, is how trump is "doing everything he can".

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534227-Pence-to-offer-US-assistance-to-immigrants

In addition, the US vice president will also offer assistance for refugees who have fled Venezuela and an economic aid package

[PAF]

Escalating obomba's NWO foreign policy that creates more immigrants, then offering them welfare, is how trump is "doing everything he can".

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534227-Pence-to-offer-US-assistance-to-immigrants

As long as they can funnel them in, document and process them into a govt. database, restrict freedom to travel freely, that is all that matters to the NWO.

As trump would say because obama didn't: "Get it done."

[invisible]

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201906071075704924-trumps-mexico-tariff-threat-lower-federal-interest-rates/

According to the US Chamber of Commerce, the Trump administration's tariffs against Mexico would hit Texas the hardest, followed by Michigan, California, Illinois and Ohio. If raised to 25%, the tariff hikes would threaten $26.75 billion in imports to Texas alone.

The people of TX also probably don't like the government stealing their land to turn our country into east germany or china. Interesting that MI is also mentioned, perhaps this helps explain intensity of the attacks on Amash.

[Zippyjuan]

Ya, as I've said hundreds of $#@!ing times to you already, they weight the results too heavily Democrat.

Saying Trump has a 90%+ chance of losing based on all the polls does not put them in the margin of error.

If all of the errors are in one direction, that signals there is a problem.

The final poll average in 2016 had Trump with 42.2% and Clinton with 45.5%. Clinton +3.3 points. Plus or minus three percent means Trump could have actually been between 39.2% and 45.2% and be within the margin of error. Acual was Clinton 48.2% and Trump 46.1%- a 2.1 point difference.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_st ein-5952.html

[dannno]

The final poll average in 2016 had Trump with 42.2% and Clinton with 45.5%. Clinton +3.3 points. Plus or minus three percent means Trump could have actually been between 39.2% and 45.2% and be within the margin of error. Acual was Clinton 48.2% and Trump 46.1%- a 2.1 point difference.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton_vs_johnson_vs_st ein-5952.html

So Trump was not within the margin of error?

[enhanced_deficit]

Unfortunately multiple things working against MAGA's re-election. On top of existing baggage, his recent UK blunder also risks cut-off of funding (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535196-Trump-Prepare-for-no-deal-and-send-in-Farage&p=6806846&viewfull=1#post6806846) for MAGA America-First movement. Without funding, MAGA movement will get wiped out in 2020.

[Anti Federalist]

You know what would shore up support in Texas among GOP voters?

More suggestions of banning guns and gun parts!

Yeah, that'll do it.

[dannno]

You know what would shore up support in Texas among GOP voters?

More suggestions of banning guns and gun parts!

Yeah, that'll do it.
..


President Trump said he's considering banning suppressors and silencers! Unreal! This rhetoric is endangering his 2020 chances as well as his law-abiding base! Watch and share today's LIVE BROADCAST (https://www.infowars.com/watch-alex-jones-show/) where Benghazi hero John Tiegen joins me in-studio to weigh in on the president's latest remarks on the 2nd Amendment.

[Anti Globalist]

Mark my words:
Trump will be the last Republican President...Because non whites vote 70-90% for the Democratic Party!
The last Republican president was Calvin Coolidge. Every Republican president elected after him has turned out to be big government.

[Sammy]

The last Republican president was Calvin Coolidge. Every Republican president elected after him has turned out to be big government.

That's true..But if we have no Republican presidents in the future the 2nd amendment is gone.

[RonZeplin]

That's true..But if we have no Republican presidents in the future the 2nd amendment is gone.

Wrong.:p

[Anti Federalist]

That's true..But if we have no Republican presidents in the future the 2nd amendment is gone.

I disagree.

Without wanting to or being a friend of the right to keep and bear arms, Barack Hussein was the best thing to happen to the 2nd Amendment in decades.

It should be obvious now, it is much better to hold an opposition and obstructing House and Senate (even if, like the GOP, they don't actually believe a word of it) than to have a vacillating, weak or confused POTUS.

[Swordsmyth]

I disagree.

Without wanting to or being a friend of the right to keep and bear arms, Barack Hussein was the best thing to happen to the 2nd Amendment in decades.

It should be obvious now, it is much better to hold an opposition and obstructing House and Senate (even if, like the GOP, they don't actually believe a word of it) than to have a vacillating, weak or confused POTUS.
You are forgetting the courts, the 2ndA would be a mere memory if Garland got on the court.

[Anti Federalist]

You are forgetting the courts, the 2ndA would be a mere memory if Garland got on the court.

An obstructionist Senate could block appointments until Judgement Day.

[Swordsmyth]

An obstructionist Senate could block appointments until Judgement Day.
The RINOs in the Senate?

Forget about it.

If Hitlery had won they would have folded and without Trump Hitlery would have a friendly Senate by now.

[Danke]

TheTexan hasn't been voting hard enough, nor his family and friend.

[TheTexan]

TheTexan hasn't been voting hard enough, nor his family and friend.

The pollsters are wrong. Biden, Beto, doesn't matter what liberal wacko they try to run.

Trump will have great results in Texas. The best results.

I will make sure of it.

[Swordsmyth]

The pollsters are wrong. Biden, Beto, doesn't matter what liberal wacko they try to run.

Trump will have great results in Texas. The best results.

I will make sure of it.

You are in charge of counting the votes?

[Danke]

You are in charge of counting the votes?

don't think a guy in the liberal NE has much say in Texass politics.

[Swordsmyth]

don't think a guy in the liberal NE has much say in Texass politics.
They might have hired a Yankee contractor.

[TheTexan]

don't think a guy in the liberal NE has much say in Texass politics.

-rep

You're not even American... Danke

[TheTexan]

You are in charge of counting the votes?

Suffice it to say that I have advanced voting techniques.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

https://sputniknews.com/analysis/201906071075704924-trumps-mexico-tariff-threat-lower-federal-interest-rates/


The people of TX also probably don't like the government stealing their land to turn our country into east germany or china. Interesting that MI is also mentioned, perhaps this helps explain intensity of the attacks on Amash.

They hate becoming Mexico more. Amash is a useful idiot for the left, that he can not see this does not make it any less true.

[Danke]

-rep

You're not even American... Danke


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535331-I-Don-t-Care&p=6808560&viewfull=1#post6808560

[tfurrh]

They hate becoming Mexico more. Amash is a useful idiot for the left, that he can not see this does not make it any less true.

Not that I want to become Mexico, but I'd rather live in a Texas that was part of Mexico than in about 2/3rds of the other states.

[nikcers]

Boring Biden - So far I don't think anyone on the democrats side is entertaining enough to win.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSBGDC0rKWU&

[enhanced_deficit]

Dem donors/neocons could be getting ready to replace Dem-Lite MAGA wing with Dem-medium Biden wing.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon13.png Big sink: Troubling Fox News poll shows 2020 loss (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534651-Big-sink-Troubling-Fox-News-poll-shows-2020-loss&)


Nototorious neocon outlet Foxnews , that has pushed lot of fakewnews in the past, is at it again and now showing MAGA losing to Biden, Sanders and even Liz warren. This on top of very negative Drudge headline that has been put up today.
If Foxnews has joined Deep Stage to play 3D with public perceptions, this is even more disappointing.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon13.png http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon13.png http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon13.png

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/05/640/320/poll1c.jpg?ve=1&tl=1




Do genuine conservatives / libertarian have alternative options ready?
Would a Rand-Amash 2020 ticket be able to provide a real option in the current Dem-lite vs Dem-medium race in 2020?



Trump's top donor is a 'social liberal' and supports abortion-on-demand, national healthcare (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535388-Trump-s-top-donor-is-a-social-liberal-and-supports-abortion-on-demand-national-healthcare&)

[TheTexan]

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/05/640/320/poll1c.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

Fake news! The liberal media as always is treating Trump very unfairly. SAD!

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Not that I want to become Mexico, but I'd rather live in a Texas that was part of Mexico than in about 2/3rds of the other states.


Why? What does living in a 3rd world nation, fulled with loq IQed, useful idiots supporting a hostile ruling elite do for you that living in a 1st world nation, filled with higher IQ people, enjoying the freedoms that are secure by the Constitution?

[nikcers]

Why? What does living in a 3rd world nation, fulled with loq IQed, useful idiots supporting a hostile ruling elite do for you that living in a 1st world nation, filled with higher IQ people, enjoying the freedoms that are secure by the Constitution?

You really think that we aren't property and the owners that own this country don't think of us as property? We just have access to more resources here, we have been owned ever since the fed was created.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Beto isn't going to come close to winning the nom. The guy is a cringelord who skateboards on stage and tries to cultivate a "cool dad" image, despite being so dorky. The more people see of him the less they like him.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

You really think that we aren't property and the owners that own this country don't think of us as property? We just have access to more resources here, we have been owned ever since the fed was created.

And you think that mexico was not built this way?

[nikcers]

And you think that mexico was not built this way?
Ritualistic human sacrifice and pretending to have government representation?

[tfurrh]

Why? What does living in a 3rd world nation, fulled with loq IQed, useful idiots supporting a hostile ruling elite do for you that living in a 1st world nation, filled with higher IQ people, enjoying the freedoms that are secure by the Constitution?

I guess because it's my home. It takes a lot for most folks to leave their home.

Also much of Texas culture has a lot more in common with Mexico than somewhere like Washington state (do they even have tacos there?). Plus I can speak Spanish so hearing it spoken doesn't bug me, but there are a ton of American accents that bug me. Don't think I could deal with that very long. Also snow.

[invisible]

Why? What does living in a 3rd world nation, fulled with loq IQed, useful idiots supporting a hostile ruling elite do for you that living in a 1st world nation, filled with higher IQ people, enjoying the freedoms that are secure by the Constitution?

More collectivism at it's finest.