House passes Bill for citizenship for minors.

[Pauls' Revere]

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4801130/house-passes-us-citizenship-immigration-bill-237-187

House Passes U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Bill, 237-187

In a vote of 237-187, the House passes a bill to provide permanent status with a path to citizenship to undocumented individuals who immigrated to the U.S. as minors. The bill now heads to the Senate. Earlier today, the House debated the bill.

[TheTexan]

This is treason. The whole lot of them should be immediately voted out of office for their crimes.

[euphemia]

If they are undocumented, how does anyone know they came here as minors?

[tfurrh]

Saw this yesterday. Couldn't believe there wasn't a five page thread on it yet.

[jkr]

welcome to the plantation dumba$$es...they got you, and you came willingly!

[Origanalist]

welcome to the plantation dumba$$es...they got you, and you came willingly!

Yep, lol.

[Origanalist]

If they are undocumented, how does anyone know they came here as minors?

Believe all immigrants!

[spudea]

One step closer to world government and the end of the US constitution. NO BORDERS, NO WALL, NO USA AT ALL!

[juleswin]

Believe all immigrants!

Btw, welcome back Originalist

Nope, you don't have to believe all immigrants. You see, when you come as an undocumented immigrants, you are then documented once you register for high school or for healthcare etc. That is how they know. The real question is this, how would they know your true age if you are undocumented? well, they require documents from your home country (which can sometimes be forged) to get your age.

[Sammy]

The Democrats only care about illegal aliens...

[nikcers]

The left doesn't want Americans to be born because no one will take care of them but they are willing to take care of anyone who comes over the border.

[enhanced_deficit]

Did Dems misread MAGA's messaging on this?




Blaming MAGA for Border Rush (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)

Some in the past have tried to blame MAGA's messaging and tweets for accelerating border rush but he was trying to quickly resolve issues left unsolved by previous Dem administration and was by no means inviting more to join the pool before Congress acts. Critics like Breitbart writers, Coulter, Tucker etc have been too rough on MAGA on this.



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Trump Appears to Endorse Path to Citizenship for Millions of Immigrants
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/u...migration.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/us/politics/trump-daca-immigration.html)
2 days ago - WASHINGTON — President Trump on Tuesday appeared open to negotiating a sweeping immigration deal that would eventually grant millions of undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, declaring that he was willing to “take the heat” politically for an approach that seemed to flatly contradict the ...


Trump dangles DACA program deal in exchange for border wall

The president previously said DACA should be excluded from talks of a southern border wall until the Supreme Court weighs in.

January 13, 2019

WASHINGTON — With no end in sight to the longest government shutdown, President Donald Trump dangled the prospect of a deal on the Obama-era DACA program in exchange for Democrats’ support for his $5.7 billion demand to build a southern border wall.

Trump took to Twitter on Sunday morning, accusing Democrats of not including the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals in ongoing negotiations to reopen the government, despite the president previously declaring the program, which grants temporary legal status to about 800,000 young immigrants, should be excluded from talks until the Supreme Court weighs in on the program.

Democrats are saying that DACA is not worth it and don’t want to include in talks. Many Hispanics will be coming over to the Republican side, watch!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 13, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1084464695904530432?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[Origanalist]

Btw, welcome back Originalist

Nope, you don't have to believe all immigrants. You see, when you come as an undocumented immigrants, you are then documented once you register for high school or for healthcare etc. That is how they know. The real question is this, how would they know your true age if you are undocumented? well, they require documents from your home country (which can sometimes be forged) to get your age.

Lol, thanks for the julessplain. That clears up the whole thing. Yep, crystal clear now.

[juleswin]

Lol, thanks for the julessplain. That clears up the whole thing. Yep, crystal clear now.

Julessplaining, mansplanning etc etc otherwise known as the cure for ignorance, this is when someone with knowledge drops it on a person without and he/she gets an attitude because someone gave them an information they didn't already know. It's nice to see that all this time off never changed your attitude :)

[tfurrh]

What are the odds of this passing the Senate?

[Zippyjuan]

Ron Paul is against deportation but favors giving them a legal status (but not citizenship).

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm


Give illegals limbo status: a green card with an asterisk

Immigrants who can't be sent back due to the magnitude of the problem should not be given citizenship--no amnesty should be granted. Maybe a "green card" with an asterisk could be issued. This in-between status, keeping illegal immigrants in limbo, will be said that it will create a class of 2nd-class citizens. Yet it could be argued that it may well allow some immigrants who come here illegally a beneficial status without automatic citizenship--a much better option than deportation.
Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.156 , Apr 19, 2011

Sending 12M illegals home won't & shouldn't happen

Even with a healthy economy and stricter border controls, the issue of what to do with twelve-million-plus illegals already here would persist. One side says use the U.S. Army, round them up, and ship them home. The other side says give them amnesty, make them full-fledged citizens, and reward the lawbreakers, thus insulting and unfairly penalizing those who have patiently waited and obeyed our immigration laws. The first choice--sending twelve to fifteen million illegals home--isn't going to happen and should not happen. Neither the determination or the ability to accomplish it exists. Besides, if each case is looked at separately, we would find ourselves splitting up families and deporting some who have lived here for decades, if not their entire life, and who never lived for any length of time in Mexico.
Source: Liberty Defined, by Rep. Ron Paul, p.153 , Apr 19, 2011

[nikcers]

Ron Paul is against deportation but favors giving them a legal status (but not citizenship).

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm


Are you really claiming Ron Paul would vote for this?

[Sammy]

Ron Paul is against deportation but favors giving them a legal status (but not citizenship).

http://www.ontheissues.org/2012/Ron_Paul_Immigration.htm

https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM
(https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM)
Ron Paul is against illegal immigration & he supports deporting them..
Sad Day for open borders Libertarians!:D

[Zippyjuan]

https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM
(https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM)
Ron Paul is against illegal immigration & he supports deporting them..
Sad Day for open borders Libertarians!:D

1) against the fence/ border wall
2) remove benefits
3) hospitals should be charitable (voluntarily of course) to treat them.
4) legal immigration should be increased.
5) he did not say round them up and deport them. He hedged on that. Deport if arrested for a crime.

[tfurrh]

https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM
(https://youtu.be/8y3zEP75kFM)
Ron Paul is against illegal immigration & he supports deporting them..
Sad Day for open borders Libertarians!:D

He also said he didn't really like fences

And he didn't single out minors when he made his statements either.

But his main point, and it seems we've just given up on any efforts towards this, was if you end the welfare state you end this problem.

[spudea]

Julessplaining, mansplanning etc etc otherwise known as the cure for ignorance, this is when someone with knowledge drops it on a person without and he/she gets an attitude because someone gave them an information they didn't already know. It's nice to see that all this time off never changed your attitude :)

The ignorance is yours. The utopia you imagine doesn't exist. The fraud rate for daca is 40-50‰, mostly lying about age.

https://www.lifezette.com/2017/09/fmr-uscis-investigator-theres-huge-amount-fraud-daca-program/

[Ender]

He also said he didn't really like fences

And he didn't single out minors when he made his statements either.

But his main point, and it seems we've just given up on any efforts towards this, was if you end the welfare state you end this problem.

Oh, but that's soooo hard!!! Much easier to have MORE gov, than trim it down for more freedom. :speaknoevil:

[nikcers]

Oh, but that's soooo hard!!! Much easier to have MORE gov, than trim it down for more freedom. :speaknoevil:

I know you are being sarcastic but its the truth. Its near impossible to get something repealed as soon as it becomes law.

[Anti Globalist]

Good luck getting the Senate to pass it.

[Swordsmyth]

House passes bill giving 'Dreamers' path to citizenship, despite Trump veto threat (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535296-House-passes-bill-giving-Dreamers-path-to-citizenship-despite-Trump-veto-threat) Started by Swordsmyth (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?65299-Swordsmyth), Yesterday

[Pauls' Revere]

More tax paying units to fund single payer healthcare for the Baby Boomers since we don't have that base now.

[Swordsmyth]

More tax paying units to fund single payer healthcare for the Baby Boomers since we don't have that base now.
Except they are a net drain.

[AngryCanadian]

The American liberals have gone bonkers crazy. How can they give out citizenship for minors who are undocumented individuals with fake passports??
This is crazy.

[Pauls' Revere]

Except they are a net drain.

Hmmm maybe. The healthcare system (HCS) or rather the Human Cattle System will see a continued rise in cost under "managed care" the cattle use.

[Origanalist]

Julessplaining, mansplanning etc etc otherwise known as the cure for ignorance, this is when someone with knowledge drops it on a person without and he/she gets an attitude because someone gave them an information they didn't already know. It's nice to see that all this time off never changed your attitude :)

Dude, you're a fucking idiot. But carry on with your bad self.

[DamianTV]

He also said he didn't really like fences

And he didn't single out minors when he made his statements either.

But his main point, and it seems we've just given up on any efforts towards this, was if you end the welfare state you end this problem.

A country can have Open Borders, or it can have Welfare, but it CAN NOT have BOTH.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE9e1AmgQp0

Asshats like Kristol know damn good and well that the Immigrants coming in want Welfare, not hard work, and are Ready Made Demoncrats, not liberty loving folk. The only freedom many immigrants want is the freedom FROM responsibility and hard work. After all, he is offering them YOUR shit! Who would say no to that especially if you have nice shit you worked hard to acquire!