Trump: Prepare for no deal and send in Farage

[Warlord]

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Nigel Farage should be involved in the government's Brexit negotiations and the UK should be prepared to leave the EU with no deal, Donald Trump has said.

In a Sunday Times interview, the US president was critical of government's Brexit negotiations, saying it left the EU "with all the cards."

The interview comes before his state visit to the UK begins on Monday.

On Saturday Mr Trump also said Boris Johnson would be an "excellent" Conservative Party leader.

Breaking with diplomatic convention, Mr Trump said the leader of the Brexit Party - an arch critic of Prime Minister Theresa May - "has a lot to offer" in negotiations with the EU, and should be included.

"Think how well they would do if they did," he added.

He also said the UK should walk away if it does not get what it wants from EU negotiations.

"If you don't get the deal you want, if you don't get a fair deal, then you walk away."

Meanwhile, the Mayor of London, Sadiq Khan, has marked Mr Trump's visit by calling him "one of the most egregious examples of a growing global threat".

In an article for the Observer, Mr Khan said: "The far right is on the rise around the world, threatening our hard-won rights and freedoms and the values that have defined our liberal, democratic societies for more than 70 years."

In April, Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn said he was boycotting Mr Trump's state banquet at Buckingham Palace, in protest at the president's "racist and misogynistic rhetoric".


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48487973

[goldenequity]

of course this isn't interfering with a foreign election. nope.


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[juleswin]

of course this isn't interfering with a foreign election. nope.


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International law doesn't apply to the US, we can intervene in countries in our backyard while sanctioning Russia for intervening in a country in its own backyard. Might makes right, the weak are meat for the strong to eat etc etc.

[Danke]

of course this isn't interfering with a foreign election. nope.


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Interference is expressing one's opinion now...

[goldenequity]

Interference is expressing one's opinion now...
stop interfering with this thread dammit.

[goldenequity]

cross post -

He has publicly supported Farage for some years now so nothing new, just increased publicity now because of Trump's impending state visit to UK.
US sees Brexit as an opportunity for deregulated markets where they can export their inferior foodstuffs to and stronger UK involvement in NATO.

For those in UK, Brexit means different things.
Aside from the 'liberal' EU fanatics you get those
from the left (anti globalist capitalists, anti war),
libertarian(anti federalist, smaller government)
and the right (pro US, pro NATO, ethno-nationalists) in favor of Brexit.

Brexit is an opportunity that if used carefully could be great or if not then could be taken advantage of for the worse.

[goldenequity]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534978-Major-EU-upset-Nigel-Farage%92s-Brexit-Party-set-to-win-most-UK-seats-in-EU-vote&p=6804197&viewfull=1#post6804197
...............

This leaves Farage's Brexit party and Corbyn's Labour party as the only two preeminent parties to then form the government.

Many globalists still sit for the Labour party in Parliament (they are the leftovers from the time when Blair and Brown ran the party.)
However,
Labour leader Corbyn is anti-EU and heavily critical of the Zionist government and globalist policies generally.

So... they have to take out Corbyn.
In the coming weeks expect big pressure and extreme tactics by corporate medias, globalist politicians within Corbyn's party and whoever else
in a desperate attempt to oust him as leader in time before the new election, so that they can try and install their own choice to sabotage Brexit.

They've already begun in earnest: (it will increase)



In an interview in the Oval Office ahead of his state visit to Britain this week, Trump warned Corbyn that he was “making a mistake” by failing to make America a friend because of the close co-operation on military and intelligence affairs [Yemen,Skripal,WhiteHelmets,Assange,Proxies,AlQaeda-Idlib,MbS,renditions.. etcetcetc] between his country and Britain.
The Labour leader has refused to attend the state dinner for Trump at Buckingham Palace tomorrow evening and regularly denounces US foreign policy. (free sample (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527332-Syria-Updates-Intel&p=6806704&viewfull=1#post6806704))
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/donald-trump-interview-send-in-farage-and-go-for-no-deal-brexit-t2wt2zpnh

eeyup...

[goldenequity]

Tomorrow...
Mass protests planned for Trump's state visit to the UK
https://abcnews.go.com/International/mass-protests-planned-trumps-state-visit-uk/story

Trump UK visit: Baby blimp given go ahead to fly over London during president’s trip
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/trump-uk-visit-baby-blimp-protest-london-sadiq-khan-parliament-square-a8940576.html
‘Well, if Trump’s back, then Trump Baby needs to be there to greet him,’ say organisers

London today: Jews/Muslims joint protest

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[Swordsmyth]

of course this isn't interfering with a foreign election. nope.


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International law doesn't apply to the US, we can intervene in countries in our backyard while sanctioning Russia for intervening in a country in its own backyard. Might makes right, the weak are meat for the strong to eat etc etc.

Openly expressing an opinion as the President of the US is a crime?

I don't believe in "Russian Collusion" but this isn't anything like what was alleged against Russia.

[Swordsmyth]

Nigel Farage was banned by Downing street from meeting Donald Trump next week during Trump’s visit (https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/nigel-farage-attacks-downing-street-for-banning-him-from-meeting-donald-trump-a4156951.html)

[enhanced_deficit]

Nigel Farage was banned by Downing street from meeting Donald Trump next week during Trump’s visit

Very risky move by MAGA. If he lost biggest funder of America-First GOP-MAGA movement due to this , would MAGA movement be able to survive beyond Nov 2020?


UK politician accused of promoting anti-Semitism in US wins European Parliament elections
May 28, 2019



(JTA) — The party of a politician whom British Jews have accused of promoting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories emerged as a the largest representing the United Kingdom in the European Parliament.
Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party clinched 31.7 percent of the British electorate Sunday, leading by more than 13 points over the second-largest Liberal Democrats.

Newsweek: Jews Should Concern Americans More Than Russian Influence, Nigel Farage Says (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-jewish-farage-brexit-698486)

[Anti Federalist]

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[goldenequity]

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so...
this 'globalists on parade' meeting of a 'leaderless' country (featuring BoJo/Jeremy Hunt etc) will be omitting both ELECTED leaders of the ONLY 2 parties that are ABLE to form a government in the coming general election.
this is fine.
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[AngryCanadian]

of course this isn't interfering with a foreign election. nope.


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Is that the Corbyn that loves the EU so much?

[AngryCanadian]

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so...
this 'globalists on parade' meeting of a 'leaderless' country (featuring BoJo/Jeremy Hunt etc) will be omitting both ELECTED leaders of the ONLY 2 parties that are ABLE to form a government in the coming general election.
this is fine.
https://7img.net/users/3715/65/05/91/smiles/3466344255.gif

Well on the issue of Mayors of London. London has the highest crime rates and look at the propagandists trying to say suggest that is not true.
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/london-pays-less-for-policing-but-has-lower-violent-crime-rate-than-peers

London has one of the lowest rates of violent crime among Canadian cities, despite having fewer police staff and putting less cash toward running the department, new figures show.

The globalists hate the truth.

[goldenequity]

Is that the Corbyn that loves the EU so much?

Nope. Left/Liberal Corbyn has been critical of the EU, anti-globalist, anti-Zionist, and anti-war/foreign policy for the most part.
However...
the labor PARTY 'leaders' (MPs) are fully penetrated by globalist sell outs and LOVE the EU/immigration/social bennies etc.
Like I said...
the 'plan' is to ambush Corbyn from in front and behind via accusations and bad press to ultimately oust him then 'control' & mutate 'Brexit'.
The conservative party 'do nothing' Brexit approach didn't work... time for 'plan B'.
Trump will do his 'part'.

[goldenequity]

US sees Brexit as an opportunity for deregulated markets where they can export their inferior foodstuffs to and stronger UK involvement in NATO.


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►It's going to be the same arguments back and forth between the rabble as here.

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[goldenequity]

just some UKUS context...

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[goldenequity]

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[dannno]

Interference is expressing one's opinion now...


stop interfering with this thread dammit.

Obstruction!

[eleganz]

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Love me some farage, that ol bloke sure is charming.

And for this thread, let's all just be honest with ourselves. Trump is asked about world leaders all the time by the press corps and we all know Trump likes to give it to them straight. He's essentially said he likes the heads of all major parties in UK so to activate TDS and pretend that Trump is purposefully trying to interfere in UK politics is simply falling for MSM propaganda.

But then again, we've seen repeated acts of sourcing from Think Progress, Buzz Feed, CNN, and tada....SALON simply because they aligned with the TDS borg.

[r3volution 3.0]

No surprise; all nationalist idiots like other nationalist idiots.

The only good news regarding Brexit is that it should teach the others a lesson.

Living in Britain is hard enough with an extremely socialistic state; close down most of the export industry, and it's going to get a lot harder.

Learned lessons incoming...

[Swordsmyth]

No surprise; all nationalist idiots like other nationalist idiots.

The only good news regarding Brexit is that it should teach the others a lesson.

Living in Britain is hard enough with an extremely socialistic state; close down most of the export industry, and it's going to get a lot harder.

Learned lessons incoming...
LOL

The EU is a death trap and the UK will do much better without them.

[r3volution 3.0]

LOL

The EU is a death trap and the UK will do much better without them.

Europe, like the US, is barrelling inevitably toward socialism. The existence of the EU retards this 'progress' to some extent, since it basically outlaws protectionism (internally). That said, the main advantage of the EU is that it prevents another European war. That (another war) is the death trap. I think it's funny (in a black humor kind of way), that the nationalists talking about saving Europe will end up being the main cause of the next (and last) war, which will end European civilization and guarantee that the continent is not inhabited by its historical population in 100 years (because they will be dead).

[timosman]

No surprise; all nationalist idiots like other nationalist idiots.

The only good news regarding Brexit is that it should teach the others a lesson.

Living in Britain is hard enough with an extremely socialistic state; close down most of the export industry, and it's going to get a lot harder.

Learned lessons incoming...

I always thought Zippy was the most deranged person on this board. Now I am not sure. :tears:

[Swordsmyth]

Europe, like the US, is barrelling inevitably toward socialism. The existence of the EU retards this 'progress' to some extent, since it basically outlaws protectionism (internally). That said, the main advantage of the EU is that it prevents another European war. That (another war) is the death trap. I think it's funny (in a black humor kind of way), that the nationalists talking about saving Europe will end up being the main cause of the next (and last) war, which will end European civilization and guarantee that the continent is not inhabited by its historical population in 100 years (because they will be dead).
The EU causes an acceleration towards socialism by strangling the economies of everyone but Germany (and even Germany with its horrible globalist regulations) and it will be the cause of the next European war due to the resentment it causes between member nations.

You have everything backwards.

[timosman]

The EU cause an acceleration towards socialism by strangling the economies of everyone but Germany (and even Germany with its horrible globalist regulations) and it will be the cause of the next European war due to the resentment it causes between member nations.

You have everything backwards.

Sounds legit. :tears:

[Swordsmyth]

Sounds legit. :tears:
You disagree?

[r3volution 3.0]

The EU cause an acceleration towards socialism by strangling the economies of everyone but Germany

I see you're drinking deeply of the socialist propaganda...

The main problem with the EU today is that Germany and the other relatively fiscally responsible states don't crack down enough on the PIGS.

Your beloved nationalists in Rome simply want to print money (to buy votes, of course).

The Germans (and Dutch, etc) want them not to, but don't protest loudly enough.

...contra the propaganda per which big bad Germany is stealing the sovereign right of Roman socialists to loot their own people.

[Anti Federalist]

that the nationalists talking about saving Europe will end up being the main cause of the next (and last) war, which will end European civilization and guarantee that the continent is not inhabited by its historical population in 100 years (because they will be dead).

Two world wars did not turn London into Londonstan, did not turn Paris into Algeria North, did not create "no go" zones in Sweden.

Less than two generations of white displacement at the hands of the EU government and it's mob of one worlder anti racists did.

[r3volution 3.0]

Two world wars did not turn London into Londonstan, did not turn Paris into Algeria North, did not create "no go" zones in Sweden.

They did kill ~100 million people...


Less than two generations of white displacement at the hands of the EU government and it's mob of one worlder anti racists did.

Do you think that's worse than killing 100 million people?

...and, P.S., most of the immigration that turned London into a "stan" was from the former Empire and has nothing to do with the EU.

[Swordsmyth]

I see you're drinking deeply of the socialist propaganda...

The main problem with the EU today is that Germany and the other relatively fiscally responsible states don't crack down enough on the PIGS.

Your beloved nationalists in Rome simply want to print money (to buy votes, of course).

The Germans (and Dutch, etc) want them not to, but don't protest loudly enough.
No European country is sane about socialism but Germany manipulated the transition to the Euro to give it a systemic unfair advantage over the other member states among many other ways that it manipulates EU policy to its advantage.

The EU is the 4th Reich and the 3rd Reich even planned something mysteriously like it near the end of WWII as a fallback plan.

The EU is a ghastly mess and even if you were completely right about the other countries being entirely to blame that just shows how unworkable the EU is and that it is guaranteed to collapse and cause a huge war.

[Swordsmyth]

They did kill ~100 million people...



Do you think that's worse than killing 100 million people?

It will end up killing more, far more.

[Anti Federalist]

They did kill ~100 million people...

Do you think that's worse than killing 100 million people?

...and, P.S., most of the immigration that turned London into a "stan" was from the former Empire and has nothing to do with the EU.

I can very easily make the case that the causes behind those wars were fuzzy headed one world European Unity schemes.

Why not argue the point from your point of view: Europe needs a unifying King, as people are too stupid and violent to exercise self determination for their nation and similar ethnic peoples?

[Swordsmyth]

...and, P.S., most of the immigration that turned London into a "stan" was from the former Empire and has nothing to do with the EU.
That doesn't hold for the rest of Europe.

[Anti Federalist]

That doesn't hold for the rest of Europe.

It doesn't hold true for Londonstan either.

IIRC and I'll admit I'll have to dig for this, but I recall reading years ago that the EU mandated "unlimited" migration from the former colonies of England, France, Spain, Portugal and Germany.

Also, IIRC, all those countries except the UK told Brussels to pound sand.

[r3volution 3.0]

No European country is sane about socialism but Germany manipulated the transition to the Euro to give it a systemic unfair advantage over the other member states among many other ways that it manipulates EU policy to its advantage.

Actually, France forced Germany into the euro as a condition of allowing the re-unification of Germany.

The Germans were quite happy with the Deutschmark; they, of all European peoples, are least inclined to inflation, for historical reasons (Weimar).

The French, who were constantly inflating prior to the euro, hated the Deutschmark, since it made the franc look bad.


The EU is the 4th Reich and the 3rd Reich even planned something mysteriously like it near the end of WWII as a fallback plan.

LOL, it's a flawed monetary system (much like ours), but for reasons almost opposite to those you posit.


The EU is a ghastly mess and even if you were completely right about the other countries being entirely to blame that just shows how unworkable the EU is and that it is guaranteed to collapse and cause a huge war.

The only thing that will cause the EU to collapse is the rise of the nationalism you cheer.

Then, indeed, there might well be a huge war.

...I'd rather like to avoid that (your mileage may vary)


I can very easily make the case that the causes behind those wars were fuzzy headed one world European Unity schemes.

But that would be nonsense...

Both wars resulted from rivalries between the major powers, not from some secret cabal of all of them trying to create a European super-state.

...and too bad the Germans didn't win the first war; this problem would be solved (bonus: no bolsheviks or NAZIs).


Why not argue the point from your point of view: Europe needs a unifying King, as people are too stupid and violent to exercise self determination for their nation and similar ethnic peoples?

I have, many many times (though it isn't about stupidity, rather self-interest: human nature).

Charles V would also have solved the problem, had things gone somewhat differently.


That doesn't hold for the rest of Europe.

It holds for France (North Africa, West Africa, Indochina).

[Swordsmyth]

Actually, France forced Germany into the euro as a condition of allowing the re-unification of Germany.

The Germans were quite happy with the Deutschmark; they, of all European peoples, are least inclined to inflation, for historical reasons (Weimar).

The French, who were constantly inflating prior to the euro, hated the Deutschmark, since it made the franc look bad.
France is the other country that somewhat benefits from the EU and whether or not the forced Germany to agree to the EU Germany manipulated the transition to their advantage.




LOL, it's a flawed monetary system (much like ours), but for reasons almost opposite to those you posit.

It is much more than that, it is a vehicle for the stealth conquest of Europe.



The only thing that will cause the EU to collapse is the rise of the nationalism you cheer.

Then, indeed, there might well be a huge war.

...I'd rather like to avoid that (your mileage may vary)

The EU was guaranteed to cause a nationalist backlash that would result in a war where peaceful independence and even a looser association would not have.
The longer the EU goes on the more sure the war is and the bigger it will be, any country that gets out early may be able to avoid being involved and will be much better off even if it is dragged into the war.


But that would be nonsense...

Both wars resulted from rivalries between the major powers, not from some secret cabal of all of them trying to create a European super-state.
And that will be the exact cause of the next war plus a secret cabal trying to create a European super-state, the EU exacerbates the rivalries between nations.


...and too bad the Germans didn't win the first war; this problem would be solved (bonus: no bolsheviks or NAZIs).

Yes, that is correct but the globalists had other ideas and they will be the cause of the next war too.



I have, many many times (though it isn't about stupidity, rather self-interest: human nature).

Charles V would also have solved the problem, had things gone somewhat differently.
That is exactly what cause most European wars, the insane attempts to recreate the oppressive Roman empire and the struggle to determine who would get to rule it.




It holds for France (North Africa, West Africa, Indochina).
Maybe or maybe not (the same goes for the UK), but the EU is forcing it on all the other countries that would not have done it to themselves and forcing countries like France to keep and expand the policy even if they begin to have second thoughts.

The EU will cause the destruction of European culture if it isn't stopped and it will cause death on a massive scale that will get worse the longer it exists.

[enhanced_deficit]

https://cdni.rt.com/files/2019.06/article/5cf5857ddda4c8c12c8b45df.JPG

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/icons/icon13.png Was it an NYT taken photo trying to make MAGA look like a beta male with a belly?
Media was warned not to publish unflattering photos but old habits die hard.

Trump To NYT Photographer: Your Photo Makes It Look Like I Have ‘Double Chin’!

[goldenequity]

LIVE


https://youtu.be/FIie9V36MH8

[goldenequity]

UKUS Celebrating D-Day

http://www.reuters.tv/l/P9Uq/2019/06/05/trump-attends-75th-anniversary-of-d-day-event-in-portsmouth

LIVE

https://youtu.be/CYBDHCmL9HI


bus shelters in Portsmouth, near where Trump is due to attend the D-Day service

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[r3volution 3.0]

Swordsmyth

You know that the EU only regulates immigration between member states, right?

If Britain allows Indians/Nigerians to come to Britain, or France allows Algerians/Vietnamese to come to France, this has nothing to do with the EU.

...not that such immigration is a problem, but, even if you think it is, it isn't an EU problem.

[Swordsmyth]

@Swordsmyth (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=65299)

You know that the EU only regulates immigration between member states, right?

If Britain allows Indians/Nigerians to come to Britain, or France allows Algerians/Vietnamese to come to France, this has nothing to do with the EU.

...not that such immigration is a problem, but, even if you think it is, it isn't an EU problem.

That isn't entirely accurate but even if we take your statement at face value the EU is attempting to force all of the member states to allow the barbarians who enter the foolish states to then enter the states that don't want them.

[r3volution 3.0]

That isn't entirely accurate

How so? Can you show me the EU law/regulation which requires member states to allow in immigrants from outside the EU?


the EU is attempting to force all of the member states to allow the barbarians who enter the foolish states to then enter the states that don't want them.

A core principle of the EU is freedom of movement.

This is a relic of the classical liberals who started the project for European integration, such as Otto von Habsburg.

Anyway, pretty much all of the problems about which the nationalists complain (Londonstan, Paristan, Brusselstan, etc) have nothing to do with this. Those non-European populations arrived long before the recent immigrant crisis. In many cases, the bulk of the non-European populations in Europe were actively courted as laborers, for the reason that the last war killed millions. For example, the only reason there are so many Turks in Germany is that idiot-nationalism killed a couple dozen millions Germans and left the factories empty.