11 Killed In Shooting At Virginia Beach Municipal Center; Suspect Confirmed Dead

[Swordsmyth]

The chief of police in Virginia Beach, Virginia has confirmed that 11 people have been killed and at least 6 hospitalized after a shooting in a local municipal center.

ACTIVE SHOOTER SITUATION-municipal center, building 2. Multiple injuries. At this time it is believed that only 1 shooter, and they have been taken into custody. More to follow
— Virginia Beach PD (@VBPD) May 31, 2019 (https://twitter.com/VBPD/status/1134563162383106049?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Police Chief James Cervera told reporters during a Friday night press conference that the shooting took place in building 2 of the local Virginia Beach municipal center, which is the operations center for the local public works department. The building is part of a large complex with more than 30 buildings. Police had said earlier that the shooter was in custody, by Cervera told reporters during a press conference that the shooter had died. Police said the shooter wasn't included in the tally of victims.
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One of the individuals shot by the suspect was a Virginia Beach police officer, and he was saved by his vest. Police have established an assistance center for employees who worked at the building where the shooting took place.
Shortly after 4 pm, the suspect, a longtime and current public utilities employee, entered Building 2 and began indiscriminately firing on the victims. Officers responded and "engaged with the victims."
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Cervera released few details about the shooter, and no information about the motivation. Gov Ralph Northam is headed to the scene, and another press conference has been scheduled for later Friday. Names of the victims haven't been released since police are still in the process of contacting family.
"Right now, we have more questions than we have answers," Cervera said.
Local police are being assisted by the FBI, DHS and the Virginia State Police in processing the scene.



https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-31/11-killed-shooting-virginia-beach-municipal-center

[Zippyjuan]

Disgruntled employee. It is your co-workers and neighbors you need to be concerned about. They are much more likely to kill you than an immigrant.


Police said the suspect, a long-term and current Virginia Beach city employee, fired "indiscriminately" in a public utilities building.

The gunman, whose identity has not been released, was killed when police responded to the incident.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

[RJB]

Disgruntled employee. It is your co-workers and neighbors you need to be concerned about. They are much more likely to kill you than an immigrant.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

This is more concerning to me.

https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/7/2014/10/PH-2014-10-latino-voters-2014-midterm-election-02-02.png

[Swordsmyth]

Disgruntled employee. It is your co-workers and neighbors you need to be concerned about. They are much more likely to kill you than an immigrant.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814

Just keep promoting the MSM propaganda and False Flags, someday they'll give you that raise.



How do you know it wasn't an immigrant?


Communism is the primary reason to control immigration but immigrants from some cultures do tend to commit more crimes than natives.

[oyarde]

Disgruntled employee. It is your co-workers and neighbors you need to be concerned about. They are much more likely to kill you than an immigrant.



https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48481814
Public employees always the most dangerous I think . I keep my eye on those .

[Zippyjuan]

Just keep promoting the MSM propaganda and False Flags, someday they'll give you that raise.



How do you know it wasn't an immigrant?


Communism is the primary reason to control immigration but immigrants from some cultures do tend to commit more crimes than natives.

More fake cliches. You are more likely to die from food poisoning than to be killed by an immigrant.

[Swordsmyth]

More fake cliches.
LOL

That's all you've got anymore?

[Anti Globalist]

Here come the Democrats trying to push more gun control.

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/31/police-shooter-opens-fire-virginia-beach-courthouse/1305277001/


A longtime public utilities employee opened fire on co-workers at a municipal center in Virginia Beach on Friday, killing 12 people and wounding at least four others before police fatally shot him in a long gun battle.

Virginia Beach police Chief Jim Cervera said the heavily armed shooter died in an exchange of gunfire with officers who rushed into the building. The gunman was armed with a .45 caliber handgun and he exhausted multiple extended magazines in the onslaught and the gun battle with police, leaving a "war zone" of carnage, spent bullets and empty ammunition casings, Cervera said.

Cervera said the gunman walked into the Virginia Beach Municipal Center shortly after 4 p.m. EDT and "immediately began to indiscriminately fire upon all the victims." His name has not yet been released.

"The officers stopped this individual from committing more carnage," Cervera said. The gunman likely would have used all his ammunition on innocent people had the officers not engaged him in the gun battle, forcing him to use up the massive store of ammunition that he brought on his killing mission, the chief said.

Among the wounded: a Virginia Beach Police officer whose life was saved by his bulletproof vest, Cervera said.

Police also say the gunman brought extended ammunition magazines that held more bullets than a typical magazine, suggesting that he wanted as much firepower as possible to inflict damage. He also had a sound suppressor for his handgun.


The shooting broke out in Building No., 2 of the sprawling Virginia Beach Municipal Center, which includes several city facilities, including the police department. Building 2 houses offices for planning and public works and is adjacent to city hall.

Megan Banton, an administrative assistant who works in the building where the shooting broke out, said she heard gunshots, called 911 and barricaded a door.

“We tried to do everything we could to keep everybody safe,” she said. “We were all just terrified. It felt like it wasn’t real, like we were in a dream. You are just terrified because all you can hear is the gunshots.”

[Swordsmyth]

Here come the Democrats trying to push more gun control.
Speak of the devil and he appears:



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/31/police-shooter-opens-fire-virginia-beach-courthouse/1305277001/
A longtime public utilities employee opened fire on co-workers at a municipal center in Virginia Beach on Friday, killing 12 people and wounding at least four others before police fatally shot him in a long gun battle.

Virginia Beach police Chief Jim Cervera said the heavily armed shooter died in an exchange of gunfire with officers who rushed into the building. The gunman was armed with a .45 caliber handgun and he exhausted multiple extended magazines in the onslaught and the gun battle with police, leaving a "war zone" of carnage, spent bullets and empty ammunition casings, Cervera said.

Cervera said the gunman walked into the Virginia Beach Municipal Center shortly after 4 p.m. EDT and "immediately began to indiscriminately fire upon all the victims." His name has not yet been released.

"The officers stopped this individual from committing more carnage," Cervera said. The gunman likely would have used all his ammunition on innocent people had the officers not engaged him in the gun battle, forcing him to use up the massive store of ammunition that he brought on his killing mission, the chief said.

Among the wounded: a Virginia Beach Police officer whose life was saved by his bulletproof vest, Cervera said.

Police also say the gunman brought extended ammunition magazines that held more bullets than a typical magazine, suggesting that he wanted as much firepower as possible to inflict damage. He also had a sound suppressor for his handgun. The shooting broke out in Building No., 2 of the sprawling Virginia Beach Municipal Center, which includes several city facilities, including the police department. Building 2 houses offices for planning and public works and is adjacent to city hall.

Megan Banton, an administrative assistant who works in the building where the shooting broke out, said she heard gunshots, called 911 and barricaded a door.

“We tried to do everything we could to keep everybody safe,” she said. “We were all just terrified. It felt like it wasn’t real, like we were in a dream. You are just terrified because all you can hear is the gunshots.”

[Danke]

I bet he looks Nigerian.

[UWDude]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmT_T2_Mzuk&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmT_T2_Mzuk


What a coincidence!!

13News Now

Published on May 31, 2019
The Virginia Beach Police Department is holding an active shooter training workshop on Saturday for the public.

(watch and archive now, before this video gone!)

[Working Poor]

Probably on Psych meds...

[angelatc]

nm

[Swordsmyth]

I bet he looks Nigerian.

Your bet is looking good, I have heard that the shooter was a black muslim Demoncrat.

[Anti Federalist]

Your bet is looking good, I have heard that the shooter was a black muslim Demoncrat.

That explains why this story is not getting "traction".

[Valli6]

When they don't declare "white man" within the first few hours, you know it's someone that doesn't fit the narrative.
https://i2.wp.com/balleralert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/A1025B13-8B06-463E-80A7-9B3B074058F9.jpeg?fit=211%2C239 DeWayne Craddock

Virginia Beach shootings: Who was DeWayne Craddock, identified as the gunman?
https://www.ajc.com/news/virginia-beach-shooting-who-was-dewayne-craddock-identified-the-gunman/f7Qxa0OYtPTOaXUk9Mo70H/

[oyarde]

I bet he looks Nigerian.

Well one thing is certain , it will be some flavor of unsavory democrat . Could be Pedophile , black , govt worker , muslim , democrat on meds or some other combination of delusional weirdo . Maybe identify as white , jewish , govt worker democrat on meds etc

[RJB]

When they don't declare "white man" within the first few hours, you know it's someone that doesn't fit the narrative.
https://i2.wp.com/balleralert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/A1025B13-8B06-463E-80A7-9B3B074058F9.jpeg?fit=211%2C239 DeWayne Craddock
Did you just assume his race? Maybe he identifies as white.

[tod evans]

Did you just assume his race? Maybe he identifies as white.

I'm betting he identified as oppressed.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Here come the Democrats trying to push more gun control.

??? Gun Control is working as intended as far as I can see. A bunch of victims not able to fight back because they're not armed. Gun Control = success. Just wait until it's commie goons coming to kill all of us for not being transgender.

[TheTexan]

One of the individuals shot by the suspect was a Virginia Beach police officer, and he was saved by his vest.

Thank god the Officer is OK.

This tragedy could have turned out a lot worse.

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

Thank god the Officer is OK.

This tragedy could have turned out a lot worse.
Oh he'll be okay. He'll get permanent disability.

[donnay]

Probably on Psych meds...

No doubt.

Virginia has sure been the brunt of bad news from governor, to beaches, to people losing their minds.

[PursuePeace]

Virginians:
If not a current member... please consider joining.

https://vcdl.org/

[TheCount]

Why hasn't anyone called this a false flag? :confused:


https://i2.wp.com/balleralert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/A1025B13-8B06-463E-80A7-9B3B074058F9.jpeg?fit=211%2C239

[UWDude]

Why hasn't anyone called this a false flag? :confused:


https://i2.wp.com/balleralert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/A1025B13-8B06-463E-80A7-9B3B074058F9.jpeg?fit=211%2C239

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmT_T2_Mzuk&feature=youtu.be


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmT_T2_Mzuk

[Pauls' Revere]

https://www.ajc.com/news/virginia-beach-shooting-who-was-dewayne-craddock-identified-the-gunman/f7Qxa0OYtPTOaXUk9Mo70H/

VIRGINIA BEACH, VA. —

DeWayne Craddock, identified by police as the disgruntled employee who opened fire and killed 12 people in Virginia Beach on Friday, worked for the city as a certified professional engineer, CNN reported.


Craddock, 40, was killed after exchanging gunfire with police, WAVY reported.

Craddock, who was still employed by the city of Virginia Beach, had a security pass "like all employees had" to access inner offices of the building, City Manager Dave Hansen said at a news conference Saturday morning.

“He was authorized to enter the building," Hansen said.

Craddock had made multiple firearm purchases in recent weeks, The Wall Street Journal reported. Craddock used a handgun and rifle that were legally purchased, officials told the newspaper. The .45 caliber handgun had a suppressor on it, police said.

Craddock had many years of experience in engineering.

According to a Newport Daily Press news brief published May 15, 2008, Craddock was hired to work with the site planning team and engineering team for Draper Aden Associates in Hampton Roads, Virginia. The newspaper reported Craddock had engineering experience in project management for site design, stormwater management and private utility system design.

>> Virginia Beach shooting: ‘The most devastating day,’ mayor says

The Daily Press also reported that Craddock was a graduate of Old Dominion University with a bachelor’s of science degree in civil engineering. After graduating from Old Dominion in 2002, Craddock earned his professional engineering license in 2006, according to the Washington Examiner,

Daily Press articles in 1996 listed Craddock as DeWayne A. Hamilton, son of Vestere O. Craddock and “former ward” of James H. Craddock.

Craddock was a 1996 graduate of Denbigh High School in Newport News, Virginia, according to the Daily Press. He joined the National Guard after graduation and began training in late 1996, the newspaper reported. He graduated from Fort Sill in Lawton, Oklahoma, in February 1997, the Daily Press reported.
Police work the scene of a mass shooting in VIrginia Beach, Virginia, on Friday.
Photo: L. Todd Spencer/The Virginian-Pilot via AP

Online court records in Virginia Beach and surrounding counties turned up a 2013 motor vehicle citation against Craddock, but no other violations, CNN reported.

Craddock lived in a condominium in Virginia Beach, according to WAVY, and police raided the residence Friday night.

According to Craddock’s neighbor, Cassetty Howerin, the shooter was a quiet person who kept to himself, the television station reported.

"I know what gym he goes to, that's about it.

You heard him walking around, he would drop stuff at like 2 a.m. and me and my roommate would try to figure out what he was doing," Howerin told CNN.

"I know what gym he goes to, that's about it.

"I never saw him take trash out, never saw him bring groceries in, never saw people coming in or out," Howerin told CNN. "He was very to himself."

[Valli6]

Sounds like his life had gone to shit.
UPDATE: He had resigned by email that morning.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/us/dewayne-craddock-virginia.html?searchResultPosition=1

...It remains to be seen what the suspect was after. City officials declined to discuss a possible motive for the attack, but they did say there was no immediate indication that the gunman had targeted anyone. The police chief, James A. Cervera, quelled rumors on Saturday that the suspect had recently been fired, and declined to say whether there had been friction between him and other employees.

But a person close to Virginia Beach’s city government, who was not authorized to speak publicly, said that the suspect had no history of behavioral problems until recently, when he had begun acting strangely and getting into physical “scuffles” with other city workers.

The person said that tensions had escalated in the past week, adding that the man had gotten into a violent altercation on city grounds and was told that disciplinary action would be taken.

Officials said that the suspect was armed with two .45-caliber guns, at least one of which had a sound suppressor attached to it, and that both weapons had been purchased legally. He used extended magazines, which hold more ammunition than standard models, and reloaded several times in what the Virginia Beach police chief called “a long-term gun battle” with officers.

Two more firearms were found at the suspect’s home, officials said.

Few details in the suspect’s past point to the staggering violence that would mark the end of his life. He had no obvious criminal history, court records show, only several traffic violations over the years.
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He had a bachelor of science degree in civil engineering from Old Dominion University in Virginia. In 1996, he enlisted in the Virginia National Guard, where he was assigned to the First Battalion, 111th Field Artillery Regiment, in Norfolk as a cannon crew member, according to a state National Guard spokesman. He was discharged in 2002 at the rank of specialist. (The spokesman declined to specify the nature of the discharge.)

Before his job with the city, the suspect worked for private firms specializing in site planning and infrastructure, and had held a professional engineer license from the state since 2008. One of his hiring notices said that his engineering experience included storm water management and utility design for private and public systems. Employment listings also showed that he had worked for the Army Training and Support Center.

Several news releases issued by the city this year about road closings because of utility work listed the suspect’s name as the contact person for further information. He was the man who took residents’ questions, whose name was a public point of reference.

But on Saturday, after identifying him once as the man who plunged the city into grief, officials said they would never again utter his name in public.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/01/us/dewayne-craddock-virginia.html?searchResultPosition=1

UPDATE:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/virginia-beach-gunman-involved-violent-workplace-scuffle-shortly-shooting

...City officials including City Manager David Hansen said Craddock "was still employed" by the city at the time of the attack. "He had a security pass like all employees had and he was authorized to enter the building."

However, the Washington Post reported Sunday morning that Craddock had resigned from his position by email Friday morning, just hours before the shooting began.

Despite having no history of aggressive behavior, Craddock had begun acting strangely in recent weeks, even getting into "scuffles" with other works. He had even got into a violent altercation on city grounds, and was warned that disciplinary action would be taken.

Though his motives weren't clear, his neighbors had told reporters on Saturday that Craddock's wife had abruptly left him in the not-too-distant past.

When he stormed Building 2, the building where he had worked for more than a decade, helping to manage the city's water and sanitary sewer system, Craddock was armed with two .45-calber hand guns, at least one of which was outfitted with a silencer, and loaded with extended magazines. Two more guns were later found inside his home.

Police have yet to comment on a possible motive, and the reasons behind Craddock's sudden lurch toward staggering violence remain unclear.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-02/virginia-beach-gunman-involved-violent-workplace-scuffle-shortly-shooting

[Swordsmyth]

Virginia Beach Shooter has been described as a disgruntled employee, but his parents say he had no problems at work. (https://www.theepochtimes.com/virginia-beach-shooter-identified-as-disgruntled-employee-dewayne-craddock_2946978.html) From this site, (https://mailtribune.com/news/top-stories/virginia-beach-shooting-victims-were-city-employees) which talks about the shooter’s military service: “Scott said he worked in a different division from Craddock, whom he described as quiet, polite and a “nice guy.” Scott said he thought Craddock was in good standing at work and had never heard negative reports about him.” The ABC News report featured a coworker who said he was friends with him, and nothing was awry. He said he saw him right before the shooting, and they had a pleasant, short conversation, wishing each other a happy weekend, before the coworker went home early. Also, neighbors described a recluse, and they showed all the surveillance cameras on the front of his house pointing out watching the street (another trait you will see among people who feel besieged by something targeting them).

[Swordsmyth]

Q research believes they identified the last man to speak with the shooter mentioned above, who went out giving interviews after the shooting, (https://www.wdbj7.com/video/?vid=510710382) as a Mason in this photo (https://media.8ch.net/file_store/16ae23b3dbbea63f9aae6e33242cf541425809b4acded390c5 f26d588fd8d16e.jpeg) and this one (https://media.8ch.net/file_store/1a71ce4d317c79f739977970c5aa3b9d07a65f169fa333f8a6 5f03bdc9d50135.jpeg). So this dude went in, said hi to the shooter right before he went volcanic, and then left for the day, and apparently came back after the shooting to do interviews.

[devil21]

Why hasn't anyone called this a false flag? :confused:


https://i2.wp.com/balleralert.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/A1025B13-8B06-463E-80A7-9B3B074058F9.jpeg?fit=211%2C239

Probably another drill scenario but there's been essentially no video released of anything to analyze and only a couple of interviews with "witnesses". In other words, it's a big ol' "just trust us" thing. I'll say that the numbers involved (11, 13) are some of the usual "coded" numbers we see in faked shootings and one of the witnesses does act like a crisis actor. The initial reports from officials were conflicting as to whether suspect was in custody or dead. Cops said one thing, mayor said another. Any way, not enough evidence to draw any firm conclusions.

[Anti Federalist]

Another broken person takes advantage of a Victim Disarmament Zone to kill a bunch of people.

When it's life or death, and seconds count, remember, cops are only minutes away.


Though his motives weren't clear, his neighbors had told reporters on Saturday that Craddock's wife had abruptly left him in the not-too-distant past.

Yeah, new angle there.

Woemen troubles have never driven a normally sane man into a psychotic rage before.

http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/fd.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

From this article, the Virginia Beach shooter looked right through some people, as if he didn’t see them (https://fox8.com/2019/06/02/survivor-who-crossed-path-with-gunman-during-virginia-beach-shooting-thought-it-was-a-drill/)

[Working Poor]

No doubt.

Virginia has sure been the brunt of bad news from governor, to beaches, to people losing their minds.They maybe spraying the population with something a little extra in that area...

[donnay]

They maybe spraying the population with something a little extra in that area...

I do not dismiss anything anymore. Did you see Virginia Beach the day after Memorial Day?


https://s15-us2.startpage.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https:%2F%2Fwww.unilad.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F05%2Ffloatopia-rubbish-fb.jpg&sp=3c5aca846c6de6bdb0762dd564c7dddc

[navy-vet]

On a lighter note: https://www.news4jax.com/news/florida/ex-broward-county-deputy-arrested-following-parkland-shooting

[Swordsmyth]

Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam announced Tuesday he will summon lawmakers back to the state Capitol this summer to take up a package of gun-control legislation, saying last week's mass shooting in Virginia Beach calls for "votes and laws, not thoughts and prayers."

Northam's bills include a ban on silencers and high-capacity magazines, as well as a broadening of the ability of local governments to prohibit guns in city buildings. The governor said he also wants mandatory, universal background checks before gun purchases; a limit of one handgun purchase per month; and a "red flag" law that would allow authorities to seize weapons from people deemed a threat to themselves or others.
"I will be asking for votes and laws, not thoughts and prayers," he said, mocking the usual response to gun violence by supporters of the gun lobby.
No immediate date for the special session was set, but Northam said he wants to hold it in late June.
In a statement, GOP Speaker Kirk Cox dismissed the governor's call for a special session as "hasty and suspect when considered against the backdrop of the last few months" — a reference to the blackface photo scandal that nearly destroyed Northam's career.
Cox said the Republicans will instead put forward legislation to toughen penalties — including new, mandatory minimum sentences — for those who use guns to commit crimes.
"We believe addressing gun violence starts with holding criminals accountable for their actions, not infringing on the constitutional rights of law-abiding citizens," he said.
Another top Republican, Senate Majority Leader Tommy Norment, noted that the governor is pushing for legislation that already failed earlier this year. "This governor has opted for political posturing over solutions," Norment said.
National Rifle Association spokeswoman Jennifer Baker accused Northam of "exploiting a tragedy to push his failed political agenda."


A top gun-rights advocate, Philip Van Cleave, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, denounced the special session as "political theater" and said the answer is to make it easier for people to carry weapons.
"There's really nothing other than allowing people to protect themselves until the police get there that would have worked," he said.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/virginia-governor-announces-special-session-181047318.html

[Swordsmyth]

Another part of the story the media has avoided is the one of Kate Nixon, a compliance manager working on the second floor of Operations Building 2 in the Virginia Beach Municipal Center.

Nixon was one of the 12 people killed by DeWayne Craddock.
According to an article (https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jun/13/why-balanced-reporting-about-guns-is-crucial/) from John Lott in The Washington Times, Nixon was considering bringing a handgun to work because she worried that Craddock and another employee posed a threat to workplace safety.
She discussed this with her husband, but ultimately opted not to bring a gun to work because the municipal government in Virginia Beach bans employees from carrying guns.
The media and its political allies have been quick to scream for gun control despite the fact that further gun control would not have prevented this shooting from occurring. Lott’s research show that 98 percent of shootings (https://crimeresearch.org/2018/06/more-misleading-information-from-bloombergs-everytown-for-gun-safety-on-guns-analysis-of-recent-mass-shootings/) have taken place in gun-free zones The Virginia Beach shooting clearly fits this pattern.

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/the-fake-news-media-is-covering-up-one-big-story-about-the-virginia-beach-shooting/

[devil21]

I do not dismiss anything anymore. Did you see Virginia Beach the day after Memorial Day?


https://s15-us2.startpage.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=https:%2F%2Fwww.unilad.co.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2019%2F05%2Ffloatopia-rubbish-fb.jpg&sp=3c5aca846c6de6bdb0762dd564c7dddc

Oh noes! They even bagged it up and piled it? Those heathens! You do know that China isn't taking our trash for recycling anymore, right?

[donnay]

Oh noes! They even bagged it up and piled it? Those heathens! You do know that China isn't taking our trash for recycling anymore, right?

No I didn't know that, but what does that have to do with people trashing the beach?

[devil21]

No I didn't know that, but what does that have to do with people trashing the beach?

Those pictures don't show anyone trashing the beach. It looks like bagged up trash from a holiday weekend piled up for easy collection by those responsible for trash collection. You don't go to the beach much, I assume. The China comment was meant to inform and also to make the point that trash collection policies we've been accustomed to for years is changing and we won't be able to send much of it overseas for recycling anymore.

[donnay]

Those pictures don't show anyone trashing the beach. It looks like bagged up trash from a holiday weekend piled up for easy collection by those responsible for trash collection. You don't go to the beach much, I assume. The China comment was meant to inform and also to make the point that trash collection policies we've been accustomed to for years is changing and we won't be able to send much of it overseas for recycling anymore.

The photos was of the day after Memorial Day on Virginia Beach. I lived in NY for many years and frequent the beaches there...and even in NY (with it's filthy subways and bus terminals) I have never witnessed any of the beaches like that at any given time. I also have been to Virginia Beach many times and never witnessed the Beach looking like that either. My theory is; we are seeing a very lazy couple of generations who live like pigs and don't really care.

From what I read, the Chinese realize there was not that much money in recycling. Wow, what a revelation. Because of it, lots of states are dropping their mandatory recycling laws.

[devil21]

The photos was of the day after Memorial Day on Virginia Beach. I lived in NY for many years and frequent the beaches there...and even in NY (with it's filthy subways and bus terminals) I have never witnessed any of the beaches like that at any given time. I also have been to Virginia Beach many times and never witnessed the Beach looking like that either. My theory is; we are seeing a very lazy couple of generations who live like pigs and don't really care.

From what I read, the Chinese realize there was not that much money in recycling. Wow, what a revelation. Because of it, lots of states are dropping their mandatory recycling laws.

We must be looking at those photos very differently. I see bagged up trash left in piles for easy pickup but you see scattered trash left everywhere. Strange. Oh well.

[Swordsmyth]

Three years ago, Vincent Smith, a city engineer in Virginia Beach, Virginia, saw a gap in the security measures protecting city employees: “The gap was not allowing employees to carry a firearm," he said. "Instead, people were forced — like I am every day — to choose between earning a living and saving my life.”
So he created a petition demanding that the city council reverse its “gun-free zone” policies. He got 259 signers, and it went nowhere.
Now, he has tried again. He refreshed the petition on Change.org (https://www.thenewamerican.com/Allow%20Employees%20of%20Virginia%20Beach%20to%20D efend%20their%20Lives%20During%20Workplace%20Viole nce):
We the people of the United States have the right to bear arms to protect our liberties, freedoms, and our very lives. This right is protected by the 2nd Amendment of our Constitution. Unfortunately, employees of The City of Virginia Beach (herein after The City) are not afforded these rights while engaged in such employment despite no restrictions on the general public possessing weapons while present in City buildings, properties or work sites nor while interacting with City employees.
In the wake of recent tragic events [i.e., the May 31 shooting at the city’s Municipal Center that took 12 lives], it has become abundantly apparent that this employee weapons possession ban must end….
We, the undersigned, call on the Virginia Beach City Council, City Manager and Mayor to amend The City’s employee weapons ban (City HR Policy 6.18) and give personnel who are properly licensed in the Commonwealth of Virginia to carry a concealed handgun the ability to do so to protect their lives.
Smith’s initial goal was 2,500 signers. As this story was being written, the number of signers was 3,235. His goal is now 5,000.
Said Smith: “I want a real consideration by council and a real discussion about changing the HR policy. The city has to [have] something that doesn’t forbid employees [from possessing] weapons … something that includes an allowance for them to take personal responsibility for their own safety.” He added, “What happened [on May 31] could have been minimized.”

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/crime/item/32716-petition-to-end-virginia-beach-gun-free-zone-policy-more-than-3-000-signers-in-two-days