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angelatc
05-24-2019, 11:26 AM
Reprinted with permission, bolding mine;

Chuck Baldwin
May 23, 2019 (https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3877/False-Flags-Wars-And-Butchered-Babies-A-Neocon-Paradise.aspx)


That Donald Trump’s administration is dominated and controlled by neocons is an absolute fact. CFR globalists, warmongering Zionists and neocon fossils from the G.W. Bush administrations litter Trump’s government. As for Trump, he is the guy assigned the job of pulling the wool over the eyes of gullible Christians and conservatives with a continuous barrage of insincere, duplicitous conservative rhetoric, while the real work of carrying out the nefarious, nasty agenda of establishment elites continues unabated.

First, there can be no doubt that the alleged sabotage attacks on four oil cargo vessels anchored near the port of Fujairah was a false flag to blame Iran and justify Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu’s plan to attack Iran. Both of these Zionists (along with Bolton, Pompeo, Pence, Graham, Shanahan, et al.) are salivating over war with Iran. And if this faux attack doesn't do the trick, watch for an even bigger one to follow.

Joel Skousen (http://www.joelskousen.com) accurately summarized this false flag event:


Two of the tankers were from Saudi Arabia and were listed as loading oil destined for America to make sure the US could link the attack to “US interests.” The trouble is, reports of the attacks lacked any photographic evidence of the damage or the type of explosives used in the sabotage that could be independently verified, nor was there any evidence linking the alleged attack to Iran other than vague US and Saudi Arabia reports fingering Iran, the long-term enemy of the US Deep State in the Persian Gulf. Next came an alleged drone attack by Yemen against a Saudi Oil pipeline pumping station, which was also blamed on Iran, being the main supplier of military arms to Yemen. But it is the Saudis that are the aggressors in Yemen. They began attacking Yemen after Yemenese rebels overthrew the former US-backed regime that was aiding US-Saudi backed terrorism in Syria. One would expect Yemen to justifiably strike back at Saudi Arabia for its constant attacks for the past two years, so why blame Iran instead of Yemen itself? –To justify this war with Iran.

The Saudis are now claiming that mines were placed on the ship’s hulls below the water line. In a claimed "credible military assessment" the Saudis have concluded that Iran attached explosives to the outsides of 4 oil tankers and blew holes in the hulls. But, strangely, the ships did not explode, did not catch fire, did not sink, and did not lean over. And, even more suspicious, there are no pictures of the damage.

Media reports were all over the map claiming all kinds of fires and damage to ships, but the Fujairah Port administration finally had to deny them.

The neocon/Zionist agenda of more wars for Israel (and the oil companies) is on the way, folks. Not to mention that Trump is attempting to follow G.W. Bush's example on how to win re-election—BY GOING TO WAR. Make no mistake about it; Donald Trump’s administration is a carbon copy of G.W. Bush’s presidency—except Trump’s White House is a Bush White House ON STEROIDS.

Second, President Trump has finally sounded off on something specific regarding America's abortion laws, and guess what? He sided with pro-abortionists by OPPOSING the recent Alabama pro-life law that outlaws virtually all abortions (with the sole exception of the life of the mother—which really isn’t an exception, because saving the life of a mother by removing an ectopic pregnancy has never been considered abortion, including prior to the Roe v Wade and Doe v Bolton Supreme Court decisions) and assigns prison terms of up to 99 years for abortion “doctors.”

As with the rest of Trump’s “conservative” rhetoric, his "pro-life" rhetoric is just that: rhetoric. When the rubber meets the road, Trump is ALL TALK. Oh, he cut $50 million from Planned Parenthood (PP). Big deal! That's only 10% of the federal budget for America's largest abortion provider. Under Trump, PP is still receiving $450 million of annual taxpayer funding. Trump and the GOP controlled Washington, D.C., for 2 whole years and did absolutely NOTHING to end legal abortions in this country. Coincidentally, G.W. Bush and the GOP completely controlled D.C. for 4.6 years, and they did absolutely NOTHING to end legal abortion, either. My, what a coincidence!

But the State of Alabama passing pro-life legislation that criminalizes abortions in that State (including aborting babies conceived via rape and incest) is a direct challenge to the ignoble Roe v Wade decision legalizing abortion-on-demand and handed this “pro-life” President a golden opportunity to actually do something besides TALK. Now this “pro-life” President had an opportunity to truly support a law that directly challenges Roe—the murderous law Trump has repeatedly said he wants to overturn. So, Trump came out strongly in support of the Alabama law, right? WRONG! As noted, this “strongly pro-life" (Trump’s words) President came out in OPPOSITION to Alabama’s pro-life law, saying it went “too far.” Trump wants to continue butchering babies.

Rebecca Kiessling, a wonderful lady who was conceived in rape, said in response to Trump's despicable attack on the Alabama pro-life law:

“I did not deserve the death penalty for the crime of my biological father. Ask Rick Perry about his conversation with me and how my story pierced his heart he said and that he could not look me in the eyes and justify the rape exception any longer. I’m sure if you met any one of the 800 of us from Save The 1, you would also have a hard time looking us in the eyes and then telling us that we did not deserve equal protection.”

Julio Severo went on to say,

“Strongly pro-life? Mr. President, if you can kill an innocent baby who has no guilt for being conceived in rape and incest, why not kill all the others for other stupid reasons? God calls you to save victims of oppression, and such babies are such victims!"

Health risk and abortion for babies conceived in rape and incest are the classical pretexts used by the left to legalize abortion for all babies.

Pregnancy of rape or health risks were the main strategies to legalize abortion in the United States, and the result was, according [to] Facts of Life: From 1980 to 2005, there was an annual median number of 1,455,281 abortions. Mother’s life or health cases were just 0.36%. For rape and incest, just 0.09%.

The way I see it: You have no guilt if someone abandons a baby [on] your doorstep. But what are you going to do? Just leave the child at the doorstep? No, you are going to take any necessary measure to secure the well-being of the baby.

A woman raped and impregnated has no guilt, and she is as [much of a] victim and [as] innocent as her baby is. What to do? [T]ake any necessary measure to secure the well-being of the baby and later adopt him or her or make him or her available for adoption. There are thousands of couples who would love to adopt a baby.

As far as abortion is concerned, only rapists deserve capital punishment, not innocent babies.

Well said, Rebecca and Julio.

After being challenged on my Facebook page by a professing Christian, who attempted to justify murdering unborn babies conceived via rape or incest, I wrote:

Please tell Rebecca Kiessling to her face that she should have been murdered. Tell me, did your mother teach you that two wrongs don't make a right, like my mom taught me? Do you believe that? I guess not, because that is exactly what you are advocating. How is it right to kill the innocent child because of her father’s crime? If a small child's father commits a heinous crime, do we kill the man's child? Why would it be wrong to kill an already born child for the crimes of his or her father but right to kill a preborn child for the crimes of his or her father? And if you claim to be a Christian, how can you defend the killing of ANY innocent human being?

Of course, Donald Trump is a Zionist and, as such, is sympathetic to Zionist son-in-law Jared Kushner’s Kabbalist Talmudic belief that an unborn baby is not a human being and, therefore, may be freely disposed of. Over 80% of American Jews are pro-abortion, and, in truth, Jewish Zionists in this country (in and out of Congress) are the ones who are the most aggressive in making sure abortion is legal. And, as I’m sure most of my readers know, Tel Aviv, Israel, is the abortion (and homosexual) capital of the world. Therefore, Trump’s opposition to Alabama’s genuine pro-life law didn’t surprise me one bit.

Now, what I’m really dying to see is how Trump's pathetic patsy preachers Robert Jeffress and Jerry Falwell Jr. are going to justify Trump on this one. But, I’m sure that these self-serving toadies will find a way to cover for Trump’s wickedness, just as they’ve been doing for over two years now. After all, their fellow Christian Zionist and Trump lackey Pat Robertson already called the Alabama pro-life law “extreme” and said it went “too far.”

These are your great “pro-life” “Christian” leaders, folks. BARF AND DOUBLE BARF!!

Third, my enthusiastic applause is extended to Michigan Republican Congressman Justin Amash. I’ve always liked and respected Justin, but I now admire the heck out of him. He had the guts to actually read the Mueller report and further had the guts to rightly state that Donald Trump committed impeachable offenses.

In the series of tweets on Monday, he rebutted GOP colleagues like [Mark] Meadows and [Andy] Biggs who have argued Trump could not have committed obstruction of justice because Mueller did not conclude the president engaged in the underlying crime of conspiracy with Russia.

“They say there were no underlying crimes,” Amash tweeted. “In fact, there were many crimes revealed by the investigation, some of which were charged, and some of which were not but are nonetheless described in Mueller’s report.”

As you can imagine, the Republican establishment is livid with Amash. GOP insiders have already found someone to challenge Amash in the primary elections next year. And he is being ostracized by the entire Republican Party in D.C. Even the House Liberty Caucus, which was founded by Amash and is chaired by Amash, has turned against him—as has Senator Rand Paul. And in the typical gangster fashion of mafia miscreant Donald Trump, the President said Amash “has been a loser for a long time.” Consider the source and take it as a compliment, Justin.

Of course, Amash is a five-term Michigan congressman who is backed by former 12-term constitutionalist congressman and presidential candidate, Ron Paul. Ron’s brother, David, was an assistant pastor of a Lutheran church in Amash’s district and introduced Justin and Ron. Justin is a second-generation Palestinian Christian. He graduated valedictorian from a private Christian school. He graduated from the University of Michigan magna cum laude with a B.A. in economics and earned his J.D. at the University of Michigan Law School in 2005. Yet, the best accolade that can be given to Amash is to laud his stellar voting record. Amash has a lifetime cumulative score of 94%, according to the most accurate report card of constitutional votes in Congress, The Freedom Index.

This is an aside, but I’ll say it straight out: I believe Donald Trump is God’s curse on America’s Christians for rejecting the candidacy of a true Christian constitutionalist, Ron Paul. Just as God gave Old Testament Israel a corrupt king—King Saul—for that nation’s open rejection of the Prophet Samuel, so, too, God has given America a corrupt President—Donald Trump—for the American Christians’ open rejection of the one man who, more than any other, carried the banner of God’s Natural Law, constitutionalism, liberty and Christian values for the American people: Congressman Ron Paul. Donald Trump is NOT Israel’s King Cyrus; he is America’s King Saul.

False flags precipitating more wars for Israel in the Middle East, continued baby butchering for the financial profits of the abortion industry (not to mention for the illegal youth-enhancing medical treatments using aborted baby parts for the super rich) and the denunciation and attempted political destruction of anyone who dares to challenge the corrupt Zionist Warfare State, which Donald Trump personifies: Yes, the Trump presidency is a neocon paradise.

tfurrh
05-24-2019, 12:05 PM
Been spending most our lives living in a neocon paradise.

juleswin
05-24-2019, 12:09 PM
I dunno when this article was written but there are pictures of the damages from 2 of the ships.

angelatc
05-24-2019, 12:16 PM
Been spending most our lives living in a neocon paradise.

Yes. Some of us voted for Baldwin, so even though he's not really significantly impactful outside our little space, I always appreciate his voice.

Cap
05-24-2019, 12:18 PM
Been spending most our lives living in a neocon paradise.There should be a song.

juleswin
05-24-2019, 12:41 PM
This is article spells out my biggest problem with Trump. Those are the fact that he is not who he says he is, he is definitely part of the establishment, most likely very liberal, pro choice, a neocon etc. And then you also get this sick feeling about him that he is not the real commander in chief but just a place holder.

Lastly, I am pro choice but also understand that if you gonna claim to be pro life, you cannot hold the exception for rape and incest. Because if you do, there is nothing that can stop anyone who wants an abortion to just claim they were raped. Its like the medical marijuana deal in California where everybody and their dogs suddenly developed glaucoma to get a marijuana card. Create a loophole like that and you create an excuse for people who wants abortion on demand

Anti Globalist
05-24-2019, 02:08 PM
If I remember correctly Ron endorsed Baldwin back in 08.

Superfluous Man
05-24-2019, 02:11 PM
If I remember correctly Ron endorsed Baldwin back in 08.

Yes he did.

Swordsmyth
05-24-2019, 03:16 PM
I like Baldwin but him endorsing Amash's twisting of the Constitution is a great disappointment.

And as Jules already said there are pictures of the damage to the ships. (Not that that means Iran did it, it is likely a false flag op)

And much as I am not satisfied with Trump's foreign policy he has been moving us towards bringing the troops home and he has not started any more shooting wars so if you are going to criticize his foreign policy (and feel free to do so) you have to give him credit for that.

RonZeplin
05-24-2019, 05:44 PM
Third, my enthusiastic applause is extended to Michigan Republican Congressman Justin Amash. I’ve always liked and respected Justin, but I now admire the heck out of him. He had the guts to actually read the Mueller report and further had the guts to rightly state that Donald Trump committed impeachable offenses.


https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gva7OihsxDQ/V5fVxwDvbGI/AAAAAAAAAIE/QcL5i30OUjYFsAlbgWT1iS3gr8XhWPsBgCLcB/s1600/Ron-Paul-%2Bdarren%2Bcastle%2Bchuck%2Bbaldwin.jpghttps://i2.wp.com/www.constitutionparty.com/assets/2008BaldwinCastle1x8-transparent.png

Chuck Baldwin, Ron Paul, Darrell Castle '08

Voted for Baldwin/Castle in '08 after voting for Ron Paul in the primary.

Castle '16

Voted Peroutka/Baldwin in'04. Stay out the Bush's!

angelatc
05-24-2019, 08:05 PM
And much as I am not satisfied with Trump's foreign policy he has been moving us towards bringing the troops home and he has not started any more shooting wars so if you are going to criticize his foreign policy (and feel free to do so) you have to give him credit for that.

Oh, it's only a matter of time before you start calling us traitors for not supporting the President in the upcoming Iran war. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534930-Trump-Sidesteps-Congress-For-Arms-Deals-Benefitting-UAE-and-Saudis)

pcosmar
05-24-2019, 08:07 PM
If I remember correctly Ron endorsed Baldwin back in 08.

You remember correctly

Swordsmyth
05-24-2019, 08:10 PM
Oh, it's only a matter of time before you start calling us traitors for not supporting the President in the upcoming Iran war. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534930-Trump-Sidesteps-Congress-For-Arms-Deals-Benefitting-UAE-and-Saudis)

No it isn't, I oppose ALL foreign intervention and wars most of all, it's one of the biggest reasons I got on the Ron Paul train.

Swordsmyth
05-24-2019, 08:12 PM
Oh, it's only a matter of time before you start calling us traitors for not supporting the President in the upcoming Iran war. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534930-Trump-Sidesteps-Congress-For-Arms-Deals-Benefitting-UAE-and-Saudis)

What is with you lately?
You used to be halfway reasonable about most topics that weren't vaccines, now you not only jump on the treasonous coup bandwagon but you have contracted Swordsmyth Derangement Syndrome and are being hostile for no reason.

tfurrh
05-24-2019, 10:24 PM
What is with you lately?
You used to be halfway reasonable about most topics that weren't vaccines, now you not only jump on the treasonous coup bandwagon but you have contracted Swordsmyth Derangement Syndrome and are being hostile for no reason.

I you have Swordsmyth AND Trump Derangement Syndrome, can we call it STDs?

samforpaul
05-25-2019, 12:35 AM
Thanks angelatc for posting this. I've been pro-Trump pretty much since his announcement to run for President. And I'm certainly glad he won over Hillary, but after reading Baldwin's article I'm hoping a viable candidate will run against him in the Primary.

angelatc
05-25-2019, 08:56 AM
What is with you lately?
You used to be halfway reasonable about most topics that weren't vaccines, now you not only jump on the treasonous coup bandwagon but you have contracted Swordsmyth Derangement Syndrome and are being hostile for no reason.

Maybe you're right. We'll see. But Amash is one of the few anti-interventionist voices in the House. Calling for the ouster of Amash will not help in that regard.

PAF
05-25-2019, 09:15 AM
Yes. Some of us voted for Baldwin, so even though he's not really significantly impactful outside our little space, I always appreciate his voice.

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https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Gva7OihsxDQ/V5fVxwDvbGI/AAAAAAAAAIE/QcL5i30OUjYFsAlbgWT1iS3gr8XhWPsBgCLcB/s1600/Ron-Paul-%2Bdarren%2Bcastle%2Bchuck%2Bbaldwin.jpghttps://i2.wp.com/www.constitutionparty.com/assets/2008BaldwinCastle1x8-transparent.png

Chuck Baldwin, Ron Paul, Darrell Castle '08

Voted for Baldwin/Castle in '08 after voting for Ron Paul in the primary.

Castle '16

Voted Peroutka/Baldwin in'04. Stay out the Bush's!

+ Rep

Darrel Castle On The Record:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?503236-Darrel-Castle-On-The-Record

Swordsmyth
05-25-2019, 02:03 PM
Maybe you're right. We'll see. But Amash is one of the few anti-interventionist voices in the House. Calling for the ouster of Amash will not help in that regard.
I never called for his ouster, I have repeatedly said I want him to keep his seat and that his recent action imperils that.

samforpaul
05-25-2019, 04:55 PM
I dunno when this article was written but there are pictures of the damages from 2 of the ships.


Could you tell us where? I looked w/o any luck.

PAF
05-25-2019, 05:01 PM
Could you tell us where? I looked w/o any luck.

I do not see two ships, but here is the source:

Published: Thursday, May 23, 2019

https://chuckbaldwinlive.com/Articles/tabid/109/ID/3877/False-Flags-Wars-And-Butchered-Babies-A-Neocon-Paradise.aspx

juleswin
05-25-2019, 05:09 PM
Could you tell us where? I looked w/o any luck.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/13/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-oil-tanker-sabotage.html

Image can be seen in the link, for some reason it won't lemme copy it

Swordsmyth
05-25-2019, 05:11 PM
Could you tell us where? I looked w/o any luck.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/uae%20tankers%20sabotaged.jpg

https://twitter.com/Joyce_Karam/status/1127958089444016128

1127958089444016128

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-13/sabotage-attacks-saudi-tankers-stoke-fears-war-accident






Re: your other comment, I have always said I would like to see Trump have a primary challenge from someone better but keep in mind that this article is one sided and ignores all of the good Trump has done while also misrepresenting the limitations put on him by Congress and the courts, pointing out that the Republicans controlled Congress for two years is only partly accurate and ignores the fact that many of them were RINOs and NeverTrumpers.

RonZeplin
05-25-2019, 06:33 PM
I you have Swordsmyth AND Trump Derangement Syndrome, can we call it STDs?

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