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enhanced_deficit
05-21-2019, 04:27 PM
America-First Q & A

Q. How strong is GOP-Adelson wing's support for our closest ally Israel?

A. Strong enough that both Palestinian members of US Congress (Tlaib and Amash) have called for impeachment of respected anti-Iran/pro-Israel neocoservative casino billionaire social liberal icon Sheldon Adelson funded current GOP POTUS.

(Not over his pro-Israel policies but they did not seem to give him benefit of the doubt over his alleged obstruction of justice conduct that was the subject of currently secret full Mueller Report).


Related

Top-neocon reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531152-Top-neocon-reverses-course-says-Trump-s-‘most-pro-Israel-president-ever’&)




Update 1:


So this could possibly have more to do with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict than the supposed Chinese business ties that he has. There is a post towards the beginning of this thread that alludes to that. This fits more, because Amash has been calling for impeachment or at the very least, thorough oversight into Trump long before the tariff battles have increased in intensity and at least a full 2 years before the Mueller report was completed.

That was just speculative opinion and probably exaggerated to demonstrate a point, it also shows how easily narrative just being pushed until today seems weak suddenly.
Humans have natural biases but it is possible that bias is limited to just not giving benefit of the doubt or no bias at all as we have not seen full Mueller report.

It is also possible that latest polls showing danger of Dems defeating MAGA in 2020 is playing a factor and some Republicans are encouraging explorration of alternatives as a contingecy to avoid prspects of a Dem taking White House in 2020.

PRAGMATISM 2020
Risk of even a glass of water with "D" on it beating GOP-Adelson's current leader in 2020 has gone up as latest polls are showing, it would be prudent for GOP/Libertarians to explore backup alternatives to avoid seeing a left wing neocon like Biden taking charge of WH.
Call it realistic if you must, but optimism without realism leads to unpleasant surprises often.
MAGA DANGER: Rural Iowans ponder Trump alternatives... ; Headwinds for reelection are severe (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534760-MAGA-DANGER-Rural-Iowans-ponder-Trump-alternatives-Headwinds-for-reelection-are-severe&)


It is also possible that secretive war mongering in mideast has increased risk of US getting pushed into another major war in mideast if stayed on current course and this is meant as a wakeup call for GOP. Many people still have fresh memory of how badly GOP and its all knowing cheerleaders had miscalculated dynamics and costs of the blunder that GOP-neocons led Iraq war has been.

Iraq/Afghanistan wars disabled 624,000 US troops , Divorces up 42%, Foreclosures up 217% (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?424803-Iraq-Afghanistan-wars-disabled-624-000-US-troops-Divorces-up-42-Foreclosures-up-217&)
http://img.news.sina.com/world/p/2013/0319/U47P5029T2D573301F34DT20130320102925.jpg
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?490822-Hillary-Clinton-called-young-black-men-superpredators&)
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?490822-Hillary-Clinton-called-young-black-men-superpredators&)
Or this could be 100% purely based on merits with complete disregard to any other factors.


But the 'China' argument being pushed by some supporters of GOP-Adelson seems very weak now that the motives possibilities box has been sufficutently muddied up. From what is known at this point, JA seems far more credible and principled than leadership of GOP-Adelson including Bolton and anti-nepotism affiliates in the White House.

oyarde
05-21-2019, 04:39 PM
The rest of the country probably does not care what Democratic Socialist Party member and child welfare recipient Tlaib thinks . I don't. Nor do I care what any other Rep from a 90 percent Dem vote detroit communist district thinks .

enhanced_deficit
05-21-2019, 04:48 PM
The rest of the country probably does not care what Democratic Socialist Party member and child welfare recipient Tlaib thinks . I don't.

Impressive anti-Dem, anti-socialism, anti-welfare stance stance.
MAGA these days does not identify as a Democrat Socialist (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534750-43-percent-say-socialism-is-a-quot-good-thing-quot-for-America&p=6800454&viewfull=1#post6800454) but it is bit puzzling that Dem Socialist Bernie supporters are pledging to vote for him if their first choice does not get the nomination.

Speaking of welfare, where do you stand on $38B taxpayers welfare aid that GOP-Adelson is sending to our closest ally in mideast that offers free socialist abortions?

oyarde
05-21-2019, 04:54 PM
Impressive anti-Dem, anti-socialism, anti-welfare stance stance.
MAGA these days does not identify as a Democrat Socialist (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534750-43-percent-say-socialism-is-a-quot-good-thing-quot-for-America&p=6800454&viewfull=1#post6800454) but it is bit puzzling that Dem Socialist Bernie supporters are pledging to vote for him if their first choice does not get the nomination.

Speaking of welfare, where do you stand on $38B taxpayers welfare aid that GOP-Adelson is sending to our closest ally in mideast that offers free socialist abortions?

I oppose all foreign aid that is not voluntary donations for humanitarian ( food , clothing , medicines ) .

enhanced_deficit
05-21-2019, 05:02 PM
I oppose all foreign aid that is not voluntary donations for humanitarian ( food , clothing , medicines ) .

Does that mean you also oppose politicians sending that foreign aid (GOP-Adeosn/globalist wing, Dems) and lobbies funding those politicians?

Asking because you seem to have impressive detial about child welfare status of US Congress members, assuming you also know who is behind massive foreign aid gravy train which is essentialy a global interventions tool.

oyarde
05-21-2019, 05:10 PM
Does that mean you also oppose politicians sending that foreign aid (GOP-Adeosn/globalist wing, Dems) and lobbies funding those politicians?

Asking because you seem to have impressive detial about child welfare status of US Congress members, assuming you also know who is behind massive foreign aid gravy train which is essentialy a global interventions tool.

I oppose foreign aid , I oppose foreign aid to Pakistan no differently than Israel or Saudi . It seems most people oppose some foreign aid with exceptions of who they wish it to go to .

enhanced_deficit
05-21-2019, 05:38 PM
Ok, I guess you either don't know answer to this question or not comfortable identifying lobbies behind it, it's cool.


sking because you seem to have impressive detial about child welfare status of US Congress members, assuming you also know who is behind massive foreign aid gravy train which is essentialy a global interventions tool.

Warrior_of_Freedom
05-21-2019, 06:01 PM
Why do we have congress members who hate America?

enhanced_deficit
05-21-2019, 06:52 PM
Why do we have congress members who hate America?

If we had few more GOP Congress members who stood up to then GOP rockstars Bush-Cheney in 2003, biggest and costliest blunder in entire US history (human costs + $6 Trillion and counting) could have been avoided. But any violation of "Trust the President" line was treason at that time.

Iraq/Afghanistan wars disabled 624,000 US troops , Divorces up 42%, Foreclosures up 217% (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?424803-Iraq-Afghanistan-wars-disabled-624-000-US-troops-Divorces-up-42-Foreclosures-up-217&)
http://img.news.sina.com/world/p/2013/0319/U47P5029T2D573301F34DT20130320102925.jpg
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?490822-Hillary-Clinton-called-young-black-men-superpredators&)





Have not been able to lookup an polling data on how many hardcore MAGA supporters were also hardcore supporters of Bush-Cheney back in 2003, would add interesting perspective to GOP think tanks opinion shifting evolution phenomenon.

https://rlv.zcache.com/bush_cheney_2004_resistance_is_futile_t_shirt-re87bb1f7aceb469bb25d2d6b38e2e08d_k2gr0_307.jpg?rv type=content

Followed by 8 years of the unexpected:
http://cariferraro.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/FirstBlackPresident.jpg