CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE

[PatriotOne]

Ooops. Must of been another mistake like the accidental loading of nuclear bombs headed god knows where a few month ago by the Air Force. The CIA probably thought this was flour and they were flying it to help feed the poor people.

End snark

And just for those who haven't heard of this type of activity by our CIA yet....factions of our Black Ops CIA have been smuggling drugs into this country for decades now to sell to the good ole USA citizens. The money is used to further fund other Black Operatons and line the pockets of the criminals. Daddy Bush was busted also for this type of activity during Iran Contra. Of course THAT wasn't Lamestream media news either for the most part....it quickly went blackscreen in the media.

Yes folks, our criminal Government doesn't give a flying @!#^ about the PEOPLE.


CIA Torture Jet wrecks with 4 Tons of COCAINE
by redstatehatemonitor
Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 04:21:00 PM PST

This Florida based Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA crash landed on September 24, 2007 after it ran out of fuel over Mexico's Yucatan Peninsula it had a cargo of several tons of Cocaine on board now documents have turned up on both sides of the Atlantic that link this Cocaine Smuggling Gulfstream II jet aircraft # N987SA that crashed in Mexico to the CIA who used it on at least 3 rendition flights from Europe and the USA to Guantanamo's infamous torture chambers between 2003 to 2005.


Read the rest here:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/12/12/19210/608/933/420107

[Andrew-Austin]

I'm not really surprised, but HOLY SHIT....

[Finn]

"Oops"

Yeah, no one should be surprised by this. Same old, same old...

[kylejack]

I've been tracking this story for a while. Its pretty interesting stuff. The CIA was apparently using it, chartered, for rendition flights and now some drug dealers are using it.

[torchbearer]

I've been tracking this story for a while. Its pretty interesting stuff. The CIA was apparently using it, chartered, for rendition flights and now some drug dealers are using it.

coincidence or the same affiliation of people?... as in "Hey Joe, can I use your ride this weekend since we are buds and all"

[LibertyEagle]

I've been tracking this story for a while. Its pretty interesting stuff. The CIA was apparently using it, chartered, for rendition flights and now some drug dealers are using it.

Heh. Interesting THAT. Is this kinda like having a job in which you wear multiple hats?

[kylejack]

coincidence or the same affiliation of people?... as in "Hey Joe, can I use your ride this weekend since we are buds and all"

Its all very secretive, but the CIA apparently leased it from a company in Florida and used it to fly to Europe, the US, and Cuba, and it appears they were using it to ferry prisoners.

Now that its crashed, FAA records show that it still belongs to that same company. The company says that's not true, and that they sold it to this other guy. A supposed bill of sale was discovered in which it appears that it was sold for $100.00, but it may have been forged after the fact. The whole thing is extremely hard to wrap one's head around.

[mavtek]

CIA has been involved with drug trafficking for years, why do you really think Ron Paul wants to get rid of it?

www.copvcia.com

[torchbearer]

Its all very secretive, but the CIA apparently leased it from a company in Florida and used it to fly to Europe, the US, and Cuba, and it appears they were using it to ferry prisoners.

Now that its crashed, FAA records show that it still belongs to that same company. The company says that's not true, and that they sold it to this other guy. A supposed bill of sale was discovered in which it appears that it was sold for $100.00, but it may have been forged after the fact. The whole thing is extremely hard to wrap one's head around.

That would be easy for the CIA to create to cover their ass... they have all the power to do it.

[theseus51]

I'm reminded of this video, http://youtube.com/watch?v=vcbfobiHTCE

at 1:42 complaining about his opponent in the Presidential race, VP George Bush Sr., who was once head of the CIA.

"At least I wouldn't be from George Bush and the CIA dealing in drugs right? Yeah, George Bush and the CIA dealing in drugs."

[Johnnybags]

poppy crop and most of it gets back here while we are walking by the shit daily. That really makes me realize the whole waste of time and money these wars are. Narco state being protected by US while our population gets ruined with Heroin.

[torchbearer]

poppy crop and most of it gets back here while we are walking by the shit daily. That really makes me realize the whole waste of time and money these wars are. Narco state being protected by US while our population gets ruined with Heroin.

The fruits of the War on Drugs..enough said.

[1913_to_2008]

I hatE these mutha funkers. They've been smuggling the drugs for years. Then some poor black kid tries to sell them to make some money and he gets put in a cage. Fucking punks!!!!


WE NEED RON PAUL NOW!!! I'M GOING TO HANG UP A SIGN!!!!

[Alabama Supporter]

I hope the blimp has not been involved in drug trafficing.

[PatriotOne]

And of course we wouldn't be in any better drug situaton with a Clinton in the White House. Just Googling Mena, Arkansas and Clinton tells THAT story.

We literally have crime families of the worst kind running our country and they don't give a %$#& about us. They are happy to make us addicts so they can make money from their suffering. If everyone can wrap their head around that, it's not a far cry to understanding Bush, et. all, have no moral problems killing 3000 people on 9/11.

[ItsTime]

this is nothing new (besides the general public being aware of it) repost everywhere this will help people understand what Ron Paul says when he says (not a quote) "The CIA has done evil things"

[V-rod]

Every federal agency has bad apples that helped in drug trafficking. Local law enforcement as well as military soilders who often were caught shipping heroine in body bags.

[V4Vendetta]

nothing will happen.... They will get away with it, like always

[torchbearer]

nothing will happen.... They will get away with it, like always

unless "V" can do something about it.... (where is my mask?)

[jondisx]

go go power patriots

[Electric Church]

Seems like very few posters are running to the defense of the beloved CIA. Defending the CIA on a Ron Paul forum will definitely blow ones cover.

[kill the banks]

1000 pieces !

kill the banks

[Luther]

The CIA is a thousand times more evil than Al Qaeda.

[idiom]

I hope the blimp has not been involved in drug trafficing.

:D

[lucius]

Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion by Gary Webb: http://www.amazon.com/Dark-Alliance-Contras-Cocaine-Explosion/dp/1888363932/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1197611175&sr=8-1

In July 1995, San Jose Mercury-News reporter Gary Webb found the Big One--the blockbuster story every journalist secretly dreams about--without even looking for it. A simple phone call concerning an unexceptional pending drug trial turned into a massive conspiracy involving the Nicaraguan Contra rebels, L.A. and Bay Area crack cocaine dealers, and the Central Intelligence Agency. For several years during the 1980s, Webb discovered, Contra elements shuttled thousands of tons of cocaine into the United States, with the profits going toward the funding of Contra rebels attempting a counterrevolution in their Nicaraguan homeland. Even more chilling, Webb quickly realized, was that the massive drug-dealing operation had the implicit approval--and occasional outright support--of the CIA, the very organization entrusted to prevent illegal drugs from being brought into the United States.

Within the pages of Dark Alliance, Webb produces a massive amount of evidence that suggests that such a scenario did take place, and more disturbing evidence that the powers that be that allowed such an alliance are still determined to ruthlessly guard their secrets. Webb's research is impeccable--names, dates, places, and dollar amounts gather and mount with every page, eventually building a towering wall of evidence in support of his theories. After the original series of articles ran in the Mercury-News in late 1996, both Webb and his paper were so severely criticized by political commentators, government officials, and other members of the press that his own newspaper decided it best not to stand behind the series, in effect apologizing for the assertions and disavowing his work. Webb quit the paper in disgust in November 1997. His book serves as both a complex memoir of the time of the Contras and an indictment of the current state of America's press; Dark Alliance is as necessary and valuable as it is horrifying and grim.

R.I.P Gary Webb, true patriot.

[PatriotOne]

Let me guess Lucious. Gary Webb was discredited by being called a nutty "conspiracy theorist" right?

[lucius]

Let me guess Lucious. Gary Webb was discredited by being called a nutty "conspiracy theorist" right?

Bingo!

Gary Webb, RIP
No thanks to the L.A. Times

http://www.laweekly.com/index.php?option=com_lawcontent&task=view&id=8832

By Marc Cooper
Thursday, December 16, 2004

First the L.A. Times helped kill off Gary Webb’s career. Then, eight years later, after Webb committed suicide this past weekend, the Times decided to give his corpse another kick or two, in a scandalous, self-serving and ultimately shameful obituary. It was the culmination of the long, inglorious saga of a major newspaper dropping the ball journalistically, and then extracting relentless revenge on an out-of-town reporter who embarrassed it.

Webb was the 49-year-old former Pulitzer-winning reporter who in 1996, while working for the San Jose Mercury News, touched off a national debate with a three-part series that linked the CIA-sponsored Nicaraguan Contras to a crack-dealing epidemic in Los Angeles and other American cities.

A cold panic set in at the L.A. Times when Webb’s so-called Dark Alliance story first appeared. Just two years before, the Times had published a long takeout on local crack dealer Rickey Ross and no mention was made of his possible link to and financing by CIA-backed Contras. Now the Times feared it was being scooped in its own backyard by a second-tier Bay Area paper.

The Times mustered an army of 25 reporters, led by Doyle McManus, to take down Webb’s reporting. It was, apparently, more important to the Times to defend its own inadequate reporting on the CIA-drug connection than it was to advance Webb’s important work (a charge consistently denied by the Times). The New York Times and the Washington Post also joined in on the public lynching of Webb. Webb’s own editor, Jerry Ceppos, also helped do him in, with a public mea culpa backing away from his own paper’s stories.

Webb was further undermined by some of his own most fervent supporters. With the help of demagogues like Congresswoman Maxine Waters, a conspiracy-theory hysteria was whipped up that used Webb’s series as "proof" that the CIA was more or less single-handedly responsible for South-Central’s crack plague — a gross distortion of Webb’s work.

But that conspiracy theory played perfectly into the hands of the L.A. Times. When its own three-day series appeared a few months later — attempting to demolish Webb — the Times disproved a number of points that were never made by Webb, primarily that the CIA consciously engaged in a program to spread the use of crack.

The Times’ Washington-based reporter McManus, who spent most of the late ’80s and early ’90s as one of the less-curious fourth-estate stenographers to the Reagan/Bush administrations, relied principally on CIA sources to vindicate the CIA in the anti-Webb series. Citing a "former CIA official" named Vince Cannistraro, McManus wrote that "CIA officials insist they knew nothing" about the Contra-drug dealers named by Webb. Cannistraro, however, was more fit to be a subject of the Times’ investigation than a source. Over the length of the Times’ series it was never mentioned that Cannistraro had actually been in charge of the CIA-Contra operation in the early 1980s, that is, before moving on to help supervise the covert program of CIA-backed Islamic guerrillas in Afghanistan (who themselves were, and continue to be, knee-deep in the heroin trade).

Which brings us back to this week’s obit written by Nita Lelyveld and Steve Hymon. The lead and body of the obit focus on the discrediting of Webb by the L.A. Times and fail to mention his Pulitzer until a dozen paragraphs down in the story.

Long before we learn of Webb’s Pulitzer, won in 1990 for reporting on the Loma Prieta earthquake, Lelyveld and Hymon obediently recite their own paper’s indictment of Webb’s exposé on the CIA-drug connection. They quote the 1996 McManus slam on Webb, saying, ". . . the available evidence, based on an extensive review of court documents and more than 100 interviews in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Washington and Managua, fails to support any of [Webb’s] allegations."

It’s an astounding and nasty little piece of postmortem butchery on Webb (which never mentions that after his series appeared, Webb was voted the 1996 Journalist of the Year by the Northern California Society of Professional Journalists). Absolutely missing from Webb’s obit is that it was his series that directly forced both the CIA and the Justice Department to conduct internal investigations into the scope of any links between the Agency and drug dealers.

Worse, the results of those investigations proved that the core of what Webb alleged was, indeed, true and accurate. When CIA Inspector General Frederick Hitz presented the findings of his internal investigation to Congress in 1998 (two years after Webb’s piece and the ensuing Times vindication of the CIA), he revealed for the first time an eye-popping agreement that the CIA had cemented with the Justice Department: Between 1982 and 1995, the CIA was exempted from informing the DOJ if its non-employee agents, paid or unpaid, were dealing drugs. In short, it was the policy of the U.S. government to turn a blind eye to such connections.

The same report by the CIA inspector general, by the way, admitted what we all knew in any case — that those connections did, in fact, exist.

And here’s the low point in this tale: After the CIA inspector general made public the second part of his investigation — the one sparked by Webb — which admitted to some links between the agency and Central American drug dealers, the L.A. Times chose not to publish a single story about the report. (No surprise here. Back in 1989, when a panel led by Senator John Kerry found similar CIA–drug-running links, the Times showed equal disinterest.)

In short, when it came to the Gary Webb series and its allegations, the L.A. Times wound up being more protective of the CIA than the CIA itself.

None of this explains why, in Webb’s obit, Lelyveld and Hymon omit the on-the-record admissions by the CIA of its involvement with drug-connected Contras, an admission owed directly to Webb’s work. Maybe, you say, the Times reporters are lazy and just didn’t look beyond their own paper’s archives. And because the Times didn’t cover those admissions, Lelyveld and Hymon remain (eight years after the fact) in the dark.

No. I fear the answer is worse than that. One of the Times reporters who wrote the obit, we now learn, called veteran reporter Bob Parry the other day for comment on Webb’s death. Back in 1985, Parry and his partner Bob Barger — working for the AP — were the first to break the story of CIA involvement with drug-linked Contras. Says Parry: "The Times reporter who called to interview me ignored my comments about the debt the nation owed Webb and the importance of the CIA’s inspector-general findings. Instead of using Webb’s death as an opportunity to finally get the story straight, the Times acted as if there never had been an official investigation confirming many of Webb’s allegations."


Gary Webb’s work deserved to be taken seriously and to be closely scrutinized precisely because of the scope of his allegations. As more-objective critics than the Times have pointed out, Webb overstated some of his conclusions, he too loosely framed some of his theses, and perhaps (perhaps) overestimated the actual amount of drug funding that fueled the Contra war. And for that he deserved to be criticized.

The core of his work, however, still stands. When much of the rest of the media went to sleep, Gary Webb dug and scratched and courageously took on the most powerful and arrogant and unaccountable agencies of the U.S. government. His tenacious reporting forced those same agencies to investigate themselves and to admit publicly — albeit in watered-down terms — what he had alleged.

Webb’s reward was to be drummed out of the profession. After his editors cowardly recanted his stories (which they had vetted), he was demoted to a suburban bureau. After a year, Webb quit and wrote up his findings into a book. The book was mostly ignored by the press. Webb took up a job as an investigator for the California Legislature and helped spit-roast one Gray Davis. Last year, Webb lost that job and yearned, unsuccessfully for the most part, to get back into journalism. From a conservative Southern California military family, Webb was driven not by an ideological agenda but rather by a sense of fairness and justice. He was found last Friday in his Northern California home after he shot himself to death.

Recently, Webb was interviewed for a book profiling 18 journalists who found themselves discredited or censored. Let his own words be a more fitting epitaph than the hack-job L.A. Times obituary:

"If we had met five years ago, you wouldn’t have found a more staunch defender of the newspaper industry than me . . . I was winning awards, getting raises, lecturing college classes, appearing on TV shows, and judging journalism contests . . .

"And then I wrote some stories that made me realize how sadly misplaced my bliss had been. The reason I’d enjoyed such smooth sailing for so long hadn’t been, as I’d assumed, because I was careful and diligent and good at my job . . . The truth was that, in all those years, I hadn’t written anything important enough to suppress."

Gary Webb, R.I.P.

ps: Just like Gurudas, Webb was about release his second book on this topic when he died. He shot himself twice in the head. :rolleyes:

[derdy]

I own 3,000 shares in that company.... http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e372/bocephusfan/smileys/crying-1.gif

[Channing]

The CIA is involved in drug trafficking to get money for its black projects.

Remember the Opium Wars against China in the 19th century? Same thing going on, only on a much more sophisticated level.

One reason to get involved in the Vietnam war was get control of the drug trade in South East Asia.

The "Wars on Drugs" in the 80s and 90s was to ged rid of the South American competition. This also caused Ron Paul to split with the party, so I think he knows, too.

Since the invasion of Afghanistan the opium production has gone way up there, and it's being protected by the foreign troops.

FYI, Ron Paul wants to get of the CIA, too.

P.S.: I you haven't heard about the Opium Wars then you should about it:
"By the 1830's, the English had become the major drug-trafficking criminal organization in the world; very few drug cartels of the twentieth century can even touch the England of the early nineteenth century in sheer size of criminality. Growing opium in India, the East India Company shipped tons of opium into Canton which it traded for Chinese manufactured goods and for tea. This trade had produced, quite literally, a country filled with drug addicts, as opium parlors proliferated all throughout China in the early part of the nineteenth century. This trafficing, it should be stressed, was a criminal activity after 1836, but the British traders generously bribed Canton officials in order to keep the opium traffic flowing. The effects on Chinese society were devestating. In fact, there are few periods in Chinese history that approach the early nineteenth century in terms of pure human misery and tragedy. In an effort to stem the tragedy, the imperial government made opium illegal in 1836 and began to aggressively close down the opium dens. ..."
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/CHING/OPIUM.HTM