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Anti Federalist
04-15-2019, 11:12 AM
Bernie/Buttplug 2020.


April National Poll: Bernie Takes Lead for Democratic Nomination, Mayor Pete On The Move

https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/april-national-poll-bernie-takes-lead-for-democratic-nomination-mayor-pete-on-the-move

A new national Emerson poll, including 20 Democratic candidates for President, found Senator Bernie Sanders ahead of the pack with 29%, followed by former Vice President Joe Biden at 24%. They were followed by Mayor Pete Buttigieg at 9%, former Rep. Beto O’Rourke and Senator Kamala Harris at 8%, and Senator Elizabeth Warren at 7%. Entrepreneur Andrew Yang and former HUD secretary Julian Castro were at 3%. The poll was conducted April 11-14 of Democratic Primary voters with a subset of n=356, +/- 5.2%.

Spencer Kimball, Director of Emerson Polling, said “while still early in the nominating process, it looks like Mayor Pete is the candidate capturing voters’ imagination; the numbers had him at 0% in mid-February, 3% in March and now at 9% in April.”

Kimball also noted that “Biden has seen his support drop. In February, he led Sanders 27% to 17%, and in March the two were tied at 26%. Now, Sanders has a 5 point lead, 29% to 24%.”

spudea
04-15-2019, 11:37 AM
hes gonna get screwed by the DNC and superdelegates again! hahaha this is gonna be great to watch

acptulsa
04-15-2019, 11:45 AM
hes gonna get screwed by the DNC and superdelegates again! hahaha this is gonna be great to watch

1. It's early days. The MSM may shove another clown down the public's throats with 24/7 coverage.

2. The Wicked Witch of Arkansas isn't running, so who would buy those superdelegates?

3. Sanders couldn't possibly beat Trump unless the economy collapses before election day. The Powers that Be could actually decide to put forward a Democrat that can beat their boy Trump.

acptulsa
04-15-2019, 11:51 AM
They seem to like running terrible candidates against incumbents the last quarter century. I guess they're trying to train us to consider power unimpeachable in general. But Trump's starting to talk like a God Emperor determined to place his child on the throne. That could piss old Soros off.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533460-Trump-says-Ivanka-would-be-hard-to-beat-for-president

Anti Globalist
04-15-2019, 12:26 PM
hes gonna get screwed by the DNC and superdelegates again! hahaha this is gonna be great to watch
Then he'll proceed to kiss the feet of whoever ends up being the Democratic nominee all while spouting that hes anti-establishment.

Anti Federalist
04-15-2019, 02:02 PM
3. Sanders couldn't possibly beat Trump unless the economy collapses before election day.

You honestly think so?

I mean I'm no one to talk, I figured Hillary was going to walk away with it in 2016.

I honestly think he could very handily win: the "I'm an honest to god communist" card beats the "he's an old white guy" card. He doesn't have a history of pissing off woemen, the millennials and ex-Ron Paulers absolutely love him, blue state bolshies would vote for Cthulhu before Trump...I see him winning easily.

RJB
04-15-2019, 02:34 PM
You honestly think so?

I mean I'm no one to talk, I figured Hillary was going to walk away with it in 2016.

I honestly think he could very handily win: the "I'm an honest to god communist" card beats the "he's an old white guy" card. He doesn't have a history of pissing off woemen, the millennials and ex-Ron Paulers absolutely love him, blue state bolshies would vote for Cthulhu before Trump...I see him winning easily.
I hoped for a Rand vs Bernie, real capitalism vs real socialism debate instead of the usual debate on degrees of corporatism. I actually saw Sanders as the lesser of two evils against Trump-- Trump was a devil I didn't know. Sanders would bring an honest debate.

2016 has changed a lot for me. I never thought I'd prefer status quo, but the direction the SJWs want is insanity and evil-- Jacobins, Bolsheviks, etc.

On Facebook, the only Democrats that I see posting are the whacko SJWs. I think they are scaring regular Democrats. I saw regular Democrats getting chewed out by whackos for not showing enough outrage at Nick Sandmann. Also the traditional blue collar base wants jobs building cars, airplanes, and houses. They don't want a liveable wage to flip burgers at McDonald's or greet at Walmart.

I have been wrong with my predictions, but...

Anti Globalist
04-15-2019, 02:35 PM
You honestly think so?

I mean I'm no one to talk, I figured Hillary was going to walk away with it in 2016.

I honestly think he could very handily win: the "I'm an honest to god communist" card beats the "he's an old white guy" card. He doesn't have a history of pissing off woemen, the millennials and ex-Ron Paulers absolutely love him, blue state bolshies would vote for Cthulhu before Trump...I see him winning easily.
But millennials make up the bulk of Bernies supporters. I don't think you can win the general election relying soley on one group. Thats the only group of people he count on voting for him. Plus most people I know over the age of 40 don't even like the guy and think he's too old to run.

enhanced_deficit
04-15-2019, 10:21 PM
This fake candidacy scam probably won't last for long this time... unless secretly Dems are seriously happy with MAGA and want to reward him with a 2nd term.

Origanalist
04-16-2019, 02:36 AM
I hoped for a Rand vs Bernie, real capitalism vs real socialism debate instead of the usual debate on degrees of corporatism. I actually saw Sanders as the lesser of two evils against Trump-- Trump was a devil I didn't know. Sanders would bring an honest debate.

2016 has changed a lot for me. I never thought I'd prefer status quo, but the direction the SJWs want is insanity and evil-- Jacobins, Bolsheviks, etc.

On Facebook, the only Democrats that I see posting are the whacko SJWs. I think they are scaring regular Democrats. I saw regular Democrats getting chewed out by whackos for not showing enough outrage at Nick Sandmann. Also the traditional blue collar base wants jobs building cars, airplanes, and houses. They don't want a liveable wage to flip burgers at McDonald's or greet at Walmart.

I have been wrong with my predictions, but...

I'm fast approaching the point of no longer recognizing the planet I'm on. I can only imagine how my 90+ year old mother feels, though she does mention it on occasion.

Origanalist
04-16-2019, 02:37 AM
https://www.smartcarofamerica.com/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=8662

https://hateandanger.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/power-steering-36mpg-seats-40.jpg

nikcers
04-16-2019, 03:49 AM
Who would of guessed the creeper Biden memes would be so effective. This shows how PC the country has become, especially the left.

dannno
04-16-2019, 08:41 AM
You honestly think so?

I mean I'm no one to talk, I figured Hillary was going to walk away with it in 2016.

I honestly think he could very handily win: the "I'm an honest to god communist" card beats the "he's an old white guy" card. He doesn't have a history of pissing off woemen, the millennials and ex-Ron Paulers absolutely love him, blue state bolshies would vote for Cthulhu before Trump...I see him winning easily.

Hard to say, but a lot of Bernie's hardcore supporters were pissed when he rolled over for the cheating Hillary and DNC and ended up with new sports cars and houses and shit.

acptulsa
04-16-2019, 08:47 AM
You honestly think so?

I mean I'm no one to talk, I figured Hillary was going to walk away with it in 2016.

I honestly think he could very handily win: the "I'm an honest to god communist" card beats the "he's an old white guy" card. He doesn't have a history of pissing off woemen, the millennials and ex-Ron Paulers absolutely love him, blue state bolshies would vote for Cthulhu before Trump...I see him winning easily.

2016 is over, and lots of people didn't like how it went down:


Hard to say, but a lot of Bernie's hardcore supporters were pissed when he rolled over for the cheating Hillary and DNC and ended up with new sports cars and houses and $#@!.

Philhelm
04-16-2019, 09:08 AM
You honestly think so?

I mean I'm no one to talk, I figured Hillary was going to walk away with it in 2016.

I honestly think he could very handily win: the "I'm an honest to god communist" card beats the "he's an old white guy" card. He doesn't have a history of pissing off woemen, the millennials and ex-Ron Paulers absolutely love him, blue state bolshies would vote for Cthulhu before Trump...I see him winning easily.

Any Democrat can win. In fact, Democrats pretty much have 49.9% of the popular vote by default; Republicans have to get the stars aligned in order to pull off a win (and even then through the Electoral College). Trump won by a shit stain margin, and you know the voter/election fraud will be of absolutely epic proportions in order to ensure that key states (like Florida) flip back to blue. The midterm election was a dry-run for this, which is why all of the post election day flips went blue, rather than red.

By all rights, Trump should win in a landslide since the Democratic party is balls to the wall crazy right now, but this isn't 1984 (the year, not the book), and Trump isn't going to get CA, NY, or any other Democrat stronghold.

oyarde
04-16-2019, 09:37 AM
Any Democrat can win. In fact, Democrats pretty much have 49.9% of the popular vote by default; Republicans have to get the stars aligned in order to pull off a win (and even then through the Electoral College). Trump won by a shit stain margin, and you know the voter/election fraud will be of absolutely epic proportions in order to ensure that key states (like Florida) flip back to blue. The midterm election was a dry-run for this, which is why all of the post election day flips went blue, rather than red.

By all rights, Trump should win in a landslide since the Democratic party is balls to the wall crazy right now, but this isn't 1984 (the year, not the book), and Trump isn't going to get CA, NY, or any other Democrat stronghold.

Exactly .It will be very, very close . Trump has all the pressure , he basically has to win the same states again even with the coming massive dem fraud and freebies talked about like coupons with no expiration date. Half the country are rabid communists so all others will have to vote to defeat them . If there are any blue collar tax paying dems left they are not going to vote for bernie if they do not have children aged 14 to 22 , Bernie clean sweeps the 20's and under crowd except in the reddest of states . One percent will decide .

Philhelm
04-16-2019, 12:05 PM
Exactly .It will be very, very close . Trump has all the pressure , he basically has to win the same states again even with the coming massive dem fraud and freebies talked about like coupons with no expiration date. Half the country are rabid communists so all others will have to vote to defeat them . If there are any blue collar tax paying dems left they are not going to vote for bernie if they do not have children aged 14 to 22 , Bernie clean sweeps the 20's and under crowd except in the reddest of states . One percent will decide .

And they'll make sure to seal all of the holes that allowed for a Trump to win in the first place. We're approaching the end game by my estimation.

oyarde
04-16-2019, 01:11 PM
This fake candidacy scam probably won't last for long this time... unless secretly Dems are seriously happy with MAGA and want to reward him with a 2nd term.

Actually this time it may not be able to be stopped . Bernies on the ground apparatus will still be in tact from last campaign , half of those kids will come forward to do it again , most of these other Dem candidates other than the evil Biden , Warren , Harris are not going to be raising enough money or be getting enough votes to stick in more than the first two states .......

acptulsa
04-16-2019, 02:24 PM
I hoped for a Rand vs Bernie, real capitalism vs real socialism debate instead of the usual debate on degrees of corporatism.

That sounds really great, doesn't it?

They'll never let that happen.

RJB
04-16-2019, 02:28 PM
That sounds really great, doesn't it?

They'll never let that happen.

Yep. It would be too intellectual. Who would bother to vote without all the drama?

acptulsa
04-16-2019, 02:41 PM
Yep. It would be too intellectual. Who would bother to vote without all the drama?

You asked a question the government doesn't want us to ask. We're supposed to be like Swordshyll and Zippy, and argue over what government should do. They hate us libertarians, because we talk about what government shouldn't do.

Swordsmyth
04-16-2019, 02:42 PM
You asked a question the government doesn't want us to ask. We're supposed to be like Swordshyll and Zippy, and argue over what government should do. They hate us libertarians, because we talk about what government shouldn't do.
More lies, I talk about what government shouldn't do all the time.

acptulsa
04-16-2019, 02:50 PM
More lies, I talk about what government shouldn't do all the time.

All the time? All the time?

Twenty percent of the time? Ten percent of the time?

Well, I guess if you post three posts a minute, one in twenty posts could still qualify as 'all the time'...

RonZeplin
04-16-2019, 03:24 PM
But, how is Bernie polling against Ivanka?

https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/mp/compositions/T1363A70MPA2789PT10X13Y57D1019723713FS5308/views/1,width=500,height=500,appearanceId=70,backgroundC olor=FFFFFF,noPt=true,version=1533890487/ivanka-2020-iphone-x-case.jpg

Anti Federalist
04-16-2019, 08:36 PM
2016 has changed a lot for me. I never thought I'd prefer status quo, but the direction the SJWs want is insanity and evil-- Jacobins, Bolsheviks, etc.

Just to be clear, that is what has changed for me as well.

I take quite a bit of heat: sell-out, where's your principles?, change your name...and so on.

I'm sorry my new found concern is upsetting to some, but this has, quite literally, turned into fight for survival, rather than political expediency.

oyarde
04-16-2019, 08:48 PM
But, how is Bernie polling against Ivanka?

https://image.spreadshirtmedia.com/image-server/v1/mp/compositions/T1363A70MPA2789PT10X13Y57D1019723713FS5308/views/1,width=500,height=500,appearanceId=70,backgroundC olor=FFFFFF,noPt=true,version=1533890487/ivanka-2020-iphone-x-case.jpg

Old white guy is at a disadvantage against a woman . She clearly beats him 51 to 49 .

Anti Federalist
04-16-2019, 08:48 PM
Any Democrat can win. In fact, Democrats pretty much have 49.9% of the popular vote by default; Republicans have to get the stars aligned in order to pull off a win (and even then through the Electoral College). Trump won by a shit stain margin, and you know the voter/election fraud will be of absolutely epic proportions in order to ensure that key states (like Florida) flip back to blue. The midterm election was a dry-run for this, which is why all of the post election day flips went blue, rather than red.

By all rights, Trump should win in a landslide since the Democratic party is balls to the wall crazy right now, but this isn't 1984 (the year, not the book), and Trump isn't going to get CA, NY, or any other Democrat stronghold.

This.

The lines have solidified.

No GOP presidential candidate, for the foreseeable future, will be able to win: ME-NH-VT-MA-RI-CT-NY-NJ-MD-DC-DE-IL-CA-OR-WA

ATruepatriot
04-16-2019, 09:01 PM
2016 has changed a lot for me. I never thought I'd prefer status quo, but the direction the SJWs want is insanity and evil-- Jacobins, Bolsheviks, etc.



Just to be clear, that is what has changed for me as well.

I take quite a bit of heat: sell-out, where's your principles?, change your name...and so on.

I'm sorry my new found concern is upsetting to some, but this has, quite literally, turned into fight for survival, rather than political expediency.

It is the same here too... I have 11 Grandchildren and as far as their future is concerned I think we are on the very edge of the abyss. And I am finding myself not caring a whole lot about being selective what I grab onto to keep from them from falling. I think we are in a do or die situation here and have no other option. A whole lot still needs to be reversed or put in check before we can afford to be selective again. And anyone who doesn't see this reality is a either a communist or just a plain ignorant fool.

enhanced_deficit
04-16-2019, 10:00 PM
Actually this time it may not be able to be stopped . Bernies on the ground apparatus will still be in tact from last campaign , half of those kids will come forward to do it again , most of these other Dem candidates other than the evil Biden , Warren , Harris are not going to be raising enough money or be getting enough votes to stick in more than the first two states .......

I I dunno, the guy even couldn't stand up to Hillary Clinton, how in the world he'll be able to have a successfull summit with a brutal dictator like Kim Jung Un of North Korea?
Socialist wimpy ideas alone never won anyone anything, he's got have a spine and some clarity about his goals and direction. There is already too much fake wrestling/fake opposition/fake reality showmanship in crooked politics.

Philhelm
04-16-2019, 11:34 PM
Just to be clear, that is what has changed for me as well.

I take quite a bit of heat: sell-out, where's your principles?, change your name...and so on.

I'm sorry my new found concern is upsetting to some, but this has, quite literally, turned into fight for survival, rather than political expediency.

Libertarians have a love affair with losing. I remember years ago, people criticizing Rand for not being "libertarian" enough on one issue or another. Even then, I recall arguing that we need to put some points on the board instead of getting obsessed with every perceived transgression. We're quickly approaching end game and Ron Paul isn't going to be President, nor is Rand Paul, and even if they were it probably wouldn't be enough at this point.

The whole "two wings of the same eagle" argument doesn't apply anymore, at least not with the rank and file. The Democrats will never be our allies, and seek our utter destruction. All of the traction that Ron Paul made has been spent, and the closest we'll likely ever get is Trump, even if he is far removed from Ron Paul. I don't care to get into the nitty gritty about Trump here, but I have the feeling that he's the "last hurrah."

enhanced_deficit
04-16-2019, 11:49 PM
L...

The whole "two wings of the same eagle" argument doesn't apply anymore, at least not with the rank and file. The Democrats will never be our allies, and seek our utter destruction.

..."

EM.

Never say never, once in a bluemoon Democrats can be converted and can become "our allies":




https://cmgpbppostonpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/daily-news-trump-tax.jpghttp://kerbcraft.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/donald-trump-health-care-quote-outstanding-donald-trump-health-care-quote-extraordinary-david-brooks-quote-of-donald-trump-health-care-quote-150x150.jpg


"As he (Trump) launched his campaign, the conservative National Review reported (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420093/presidential-candidate-donald-trump-double-agent-for-left) that he was a registered Democrat from 2001 to 2009 and praised a Canadian-style universal health care system. Party affiliation in the United States is usually changed by ticking a box while registering to vote and doesn't imply any financial contribution. However Trump has also shown a willingness to contribute considerable sums to Democratic causes (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420435/donald-trump-hasnt-voted-last-six-presidential-primaries-jillian-kay-melchior) - including Hillary Clinton's campaign for Senate in 2002."

Swordsmyth
04-16-2019, 11:53 PM
EM.

Never say never, once in a bluemoon they can convert and become "our allies":




https://cmgpbppostonpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/daily-news-trump-tax.jpghttp://kerbcraft.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/donald-trump-health-care-quote-outstanding-donald-trump-health-care-quote-extraordinary-david-brooks-quote-of-donald-trump-health-care-quote-150x150.jpg


"As he (Trump) launched his campaign, the conservative National Review reported (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420093/presidential-candidate-donald-trump-double-agent-for-left) that he was a registered Democrat from 2001 to 2009 and praised a Canadian-style universal health care system. Party affiliation in the United States is usually changed by ticking a box while registering to vote and doesn't imply any financial contribution. However Trump has also shown a willingness to contribute considerable sums to Democratic causes (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420435/donald-trump-hasnt-voted-last-six-presidential-primaries-jillian-kay-melchior) - including Hillary Clinton's campaign for Senate in 2002."

There are always individual exceptions but to think that any significant number of current Demoncrats who haven't left after the recent shift into insanity will ever convert back to sanity is ridiculous.

It has also been questioned whether Trump was ever sincere in his political positions before he ran for office or whether he was pleasing those that had to be pleased in order to further his career and prepare for his Presidential run.

enhanced_deficit
04-17-2019, 12:01 AM
There are always individual exceptions but to think that any significant number of current Demoncrats who haven't left after the recent shift into insanity will ever convert back to sanity is ridiculous.

It has also been questioned whether Trump was ever sincere in his political positions before he ran for office or whether he was pleasing those that had to be pleased in order to further his career and prepare for his Presidential run.

First, I don't buy the premise of putting in same sentence the term 'sanity' and the party that championed the dumbest blunder in US history of Iraq war for a decade and just this year is sending $40B gift to a foreign country that never stood with us on frontlines in any of our wars in their neighborhood.
Secondly, list of Democrats who are joining GOP-Adelson/MAGA wing is already quite long:

Sheldon Adelson, primo neocon
Dershowitz
Lindsey Graham
Lieberman
Ivanka
Kushner
Pipes
Kanye
Candice Ownes
Kardashians
Vann Jones, CPAC 2109 ally
....

Need I go on?

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 12:08 AM
First, I don't buy the premise of putting in same sentence the term 'sanity' and the party that championed the dumbest blunder in US history of Iraq war for a decade and just this year is sending $40B gift to a foreign country that never stood with us on frontlines in any of our wars in their neighborhood.
Secondly, list of Democrats who are joining GOP-Adelson/MAGA wing is already quite long:

Sheldon Adelson, primo neocon
Dershowitz
Lindsey Graham
Lieberman
Ivanka
Kushner
Pipes
Kanye
Candice Ownes
Kardashians
Vann Jones, CPAC 2109 ally
....

Need I go on?

Did I say the GOP was sane? We are not the GOP.

And the GOP is still saner than the party of pedophiles and trannies that starts just as many or more wars for Israel.

Trump does have a lot of less desirable people around him and he is far from perfect himself but the left is much worse and we can make use of Trump much more than we can the left.

enhanced_deficit
04-17-2019, 12:11 AM
Now you might be offending MAGA's LGBT base (with unnecessary use of T-word) in the heat of a discussion, we can resume later on and let cool heads prevail.

TheTexan
04-17-2019, 12:14 AM
Yep. It would be too intellectual. Who would bother to vote without all the drama?

-rep

Have you been paying attention? We're approaching the end-game. This is a fight for survival. We're on the edge of the abyss.

If we don't vote, how can we expect to win??

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 12:16 AM
Now you might be offending MAGA's LGBT base (unnecessary use of T-word) in the heat of a discussion, we can resume later on and let cool heads prevail.
My position won't be any different later.

Trump has given occasional lip service to the freaks but so far his actions have opposed their agenda. (like the trannie ban)

The left has completely lost its way and has surrendered the few issues it was ever better about to the right (like the 1stA), there is no hope for an alliance with them other than a few individuals who might buck the trend, the right is moving our direction and Trump is our best chance at this point.

TheTexan
04-17-2019, 12:24 AM
The Democrats will never be our allies, and seek our utter destruction.

Can we perhaps try a petition, to ask them nicely to stop?

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 12:28 AM
Can we perhaps try a petition, to ask them nicely to stop?
We could offer them free helicopter rides, they like free stuff.

TheTexan
04-17-2019, 12:31 AM
We could offer them free helicopter rides, they like free stuff.

Could work. I've heard the view of the ocean can be breath-taking.

oyarde
04-17-2019, 05:50 AM
I I dunno, the guy even couldn't stand up to Hillary Clinton, how in the world he'll be able to have a successfull summit with a brutal dictator like Kim Jung Un of North Korea?
Socialist wimpy ideas alone never won anyone anything, he's got have a spine and some clarity about his goals and direction. There is already too much fake wrestling/fake opposition/fake reality showmanship in crooked politics.

Well it is fitting then he represent the party of fake everything versus the party of fake smaller govt .

nikcers
04-17-2019, 05:58 AM
Sanders can't win, he threw all his support against Trump in the last election and lost. Who knows maybe he is gaining support with younger people but that doesn't win elections in my experience.

oyarde
04-17-2019, 06:08 AM
Nik could be right but I am getting more .30 Cal ammo just in case . Just think if he did win . The locusts on the northeast coast and west coast would fan out and try to steal everything because they would think it all belongs to them now . Normally I am perfectly OK with just tomahawking an enemy to death but in the case of dirty little communists I do not really want to get that close , Lord knows what that vermin is carrying .

nikcers
04-17-2019, 07:41 AM
Nik could be right but I am getting more .30 Cal ammo just in case . Just think if he did win . The locusts on the northeast coast and west coast would fan out and try to steal everything because they would think it all belongs to them now . Normally I am perfectly OK with just tomahawking an enemy to death but in the case of dirty little communists I do not really want to get that close , Lord knows what that vermin is carrying .

Bernie Sanders whole platform is to tax rich people more what the fuck does he think printing money does? Is it a tax on the people with no money or does it devalue the money that people have? Not to mention most of the tax revenue already comes from rich people. it's an argument only people who don't know how the world works can think that it's true but Sanders is disgusting and if the Democrats nominate him they deserve the defeat they get.

Anti Federalist
04-17-2019, 09:23 AM
Bernie Sanders whole platform is to tax rich people more what the fuck does he think printing money does? Is it a tax on the people with no money or does it devalue the money that people have? Not to mention most of the tax revenue already comes from rich people. it's an argument only people who don't know how the world works can think that it's true but Sanders is disgusting and if the Democrats nominate him they deserve the defeat they get.

Since when has obvious economics ever stopped a communist?

Philhelm
04-17-2019, 09:24 AM
EM.

Never say never, once in a bluemoon Democrats can be converted and can become "our allies":

I was mostly referring to the rank and file Democrats who openly want to destroy our way of life. You have a much higher chance of finding common ground with even the most bone-headed, establishment Republican voter than you can with a pussy hat.

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 04:31 PM
Does Bernie Sanders steal his neighbor’s newspaper? (https://thehornnews.com/bernie-sanders-caught-stealing-neighbors-newspaper/)

RJB
04-17-2019, 04:41 PM
I agree with people who say that they are trying to divide us. I hold out hope that we can still unite. However, I feel that I have been slapped (metaphorically) a few times. I know SJWs are indoctrinated to attack, but whether their hatred comes from within or was stirred by propaganda, a slap is a slap.

Just to be clear, that is what has changed for me as well.

I take quite a bit of heat: sell-out, where's your principles?, change your name...and so on.

I'm sorry my new found concern is upsetting to some, but this has, quite literally, turned into fight for survival, rather than political expediency.

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 04:45 PM
I agree with people who say that they are trying to divide us. I hold out hope that we can still unite. However, I feel that I have been slapped (metaphorically) a few times. I know SJWs are indoctrinated to attack, but whether their hatred comes from within or was stirred by propaganda, a slap is a slap.
I'm getting close to running out of cheeks.

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 04:50 PM
Clinton loyalist David Brock is launching a campaign to take out Bernie Sanders (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/16/clinton-loyalist-david-brock-plotting-anti-bernie-sanders-campaign/)

Anti Globalist
04-17-2019, 04:57 PM
I agree with people who say that they are trying to divide us. I hold out hope that we can still unite. However, I feel that I have been slapped (metaphorically) a few times. I know SJWs are indoctrinated to attack, but whether their hatred comes from within or was stirred by propaganda, a slap is a slap.
If I were to take a guess, I'd say their hatred is being stirred by propaganda.

Champ
04-17-2019, 06:19 PM
I agree with people who say that they are trying to divide us. I hold out hope that we can still unite. However, I feel that I have been slapped (metaphorically) a few times. I know SJWs are indoctrinated to attack, but whether their hatred comes from within or was stirred by propaganda, a slap is a slap.

It's virtually a given at this point. One of the major purposes of the msm.

It may sound overly optimistic in 2019, but I think in the end we will unite and attack the responsible parties that have been sowing the division for decades/centuries/millennia. For now, we are stuck in what feels like endless efforts trying to convince common folk they are being duped into a hate filled paradigm through the daily news and history books, where everywhere they look, is a supposed enemy, whether the group they are supposed to hate is white, asian, hispanic, gay, trans, rich, poor, democrat, republican, libertarian, socialist, jew, gentile, christian, muslim, on and on. We are supposed to be using up all of our time fighting each other, instead of correctly pointing out who is behind the mischief.

Once we get to that point, it's game over, but until then, it's going to be one heck of a ride until that point is reached.

ATruepatriot
04-17-2019, 06:34 PM
It's virtually a given at this point. One of the major purposes of the msm.

It may sound overly optimistic in 2019, but I think in the end we will unite and attack the responsible parties that have been sowing the division for decades/centuries/millennia. For now, we are stuck in what feels like endless efforts trying to convince common folk they are being duped into a hate filled paradigm through the daily news and history books, where everywhere they look, is a supposed enemy, whether the group they are supposed to hate is white, asian, hispanic, gay, trans, rich, poor, democrat, republican, libertarian, socialist, jew, gentile, christian, muslim, on and on. We are supposed to be using up all of our time fighting each other, instead of correctly pointing out who is behind the mischief.

Once we get to that point, it's game over, but until then, it's going to be one heck of a ride until that point is reached.

Absolutely. There is a much much bigger game at hand here.

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 05:08 PM
On page 23 of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s long-awaited report (https://www.justice.gov/storage/report.pdf) into Russia collusion during the 2016 election, it is revealed that the Russian company responsible for attempting to collude with the Trump campaign also supported Bernie Sander’s campaign for President.
In the report, it quotes a message seeming to come from the Russian-based Internet Research Company (IRA):

“Main idea: Use opportunity to criticize Hillary [Clinton] and the rest (except Sanders and Trump – we support them.”
https://bigleaguepolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/ReportBernie.jpg


The IRA is the company responsible for the “Russian internet trolls” that produced and promoted content meant to sway the results of the election. And in their communications, they make it clear that it isn’t just President Trump they support, but also Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders.
This means that many of the supporters for Sanders’ massive campaign that nearly defeated Hillary Clinton could simply be trolls, according the fake news narrative of the last 2.5 years.
It is unlikely that many media outlets will spend much time discussing this, as the narrative appears to have already been made that it is Trump that Russians wanted elected.

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/mueller-report-reveals-russia-backed-bernie-sanders-will-cnn-cover/

Anti Globalist
04-18-2019, 08:31 PM
As long as Trump controls the narrative he should have no problem getting re-elected. Thats pretty much what he did last time around.

Wooden Indian
04-18-2019, 09:01 PM
The Sanders/AOC Dems are coming into power, like it or not. When a liberal like Trump makes their hair stand on end, you know shit has gotten real.

I'll vote for Frump simply because he pushes their "act bat shit crazy" button, and their own true colors will be their own undoing.

Strange alliances, man...

Anti Federalist
04-18-2019, 09:58 PM
The Sanders/AOC Dems are coming into power, like it or not. When a liberal like Trump makes their hair stand on end, you know shit has gotten real.

I'll vote for Frump simply because he pushes their "act bat shit crazy" button, and their own true colors will be their own undoing.

Strange alliances, man...

I'm not.

I've become convinced worse is better.

Bernie/Buttplug 2020.

That might just be enough to reach the tipping point.

This current system is not sustainable.

There must be dissolution and separation.

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 10:02 PM
I'm not.

I've become convinced worse is better.

Bernie/Buttplug 2020.

That might just be enough to reach the tipping point.

This current system is not sustainable.

There must be dissolution and separation.
WI has a point though, if the left takes power they will try to turn down the heat on the frog, with Trump they have lost control and are exposing themselves sufficiently that we might get dissolution and separation.

Anti Federalist
04-18-2019, 10:10 PM
WI has a point though, if the left takes power they will try to turn down the heat on the frog, with Trump they have lost control and are exposing themselves sufficiently that we might get dissolution and separation.

Whatever brings that about more quickly I'm for.

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 10:12 PM
Whatever brings that about more quickly I'm for.
You and me both.

I will have to see how things look as 2020 rolls by.

Wooden Indian
04-19-2019, 03:39 AM
"Literally Hitler: 2020"

TheTexan
04-19-2019, 03:44 AM
"Literally Hitler: 2020"

Hitler wouldn't stand a chance in 2020. Trump would beat him handily.

Maybe 2024.

Pauls' Revere
04-19-2019, 05:08 AM
-rep

Have you been paying attention? We're approaching the end-game. This is a fight for survival. We're on the edge of the abyss.

If we don't vote, how can we expect to win??

We could try to rig an election like Hillary.

Pauls' Revere
04-19-2019, 05:13 AM
I agree with people who say that they are trying to divide us. I hold out hope that we can still unite. However, I feel that I have been slapped (metaphorically) a few times. I know SJWs are indoctrinated to attack, but whether their hatred comes from within or was stirred by propaganda, a slap is a slap.

In 2008 I felt bent over rather than slapped.

TheTexan
04-19-2019, 05:43 AM
We could try to rig an election like Hillary.

We shouldn't stoop down to Russia and HB's level.

Pauls' Revere
04-19-2019, 05:51 AM
I'm fast approaching the point of no longer recognizing the planet I'm on. I can only imagine how my 90+ year old mother feels, though she does mention it on occasion.

Already there.