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Swordsmyth
04-09-2019, 06:20 PM
On Monday, Judge Richard Seeborg of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California ruled against President Donald Trump's "wait-in-Mexico (https://www.npr.org/2019/03/12/702597006/-remain-in-mexico-immigration-policy-expands-but-slowly)" policy for prospective asylum-seekers arriving at our beleaguered (https://www.dailywire.com/news/45394/hammer-trump-would-be-right-fully-shut-down-us-josh-hammer) southern border. The Washington Times reports (https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/apr/8/judge-blocks-trump-policy-returning-asylum-seekers/):

A federal judge ordered the Trump administration to stop its new policy of sending asylum-seekers who jumped the border back to Mexico to wait while their cases proceed, ruling Monday that the plan was likely illegal.
Known informally as the "wait-in-Mexico policy," and officially as the Migrant Protection Protocols, the plan was a major part of the administration’s moves to try to stem the flow of immigrants crossing into the U.S. illegally.
Judge Richard Seeborg, an Obama appointee to the bench, said not only does the policy violate immigration law, but Mexico is so dangerous that making asylum-seekers wait there — even if they’re not from Mexico — is untenable.
Judge Seeborg said it may be possible to come up with a policy that would be legal, with sufficient safeguards, but the Trump administration’s version doesn’t cut it.
The Trump Administration will presumably — though not definitely (https://www.dailywire.com/news/44129/hammer-trump-administration-wrongly-extends-new-josh-hammer) — appeal, although that appeal would be to the left-leaning (https://www.dailywire.com/news/44444/insanity-ninth-circuit-finds-constitutional-right-josh-hammer) U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit.
But this ruling is but the latest episode in the federal judiciary's immigration-centric revanchism (https://www.dailywire.com/news/44510/hammer-judicial-arrogance-existential-threat-our-josh-hammer) against the Trump Administration. Last month, in a separate immigration matter, The Daily Wire reported (https://www.dailywire.com/news/44444/insanity-ninth-circuit-finds-constitutional-right-josh-hammer) how the Ninth Circuit, in finding that asylum seekers at the U.S.-Mexico border who fail their initial threshold of showing a "credible fear" of persecution in their home countries are entitled to a judicial appeal before they can be deported, seemed to contravene decades — if not centuries — of legal precedent:

As the great Justice Robert H. Jackson, hailed as a "champion of due process" by many and the author of the most famous dissent in 1944's Korematsu v. United States, said in 1953's Shaughnessy v. Mezei: "Due process does not invest any alien with a right to enter the United States, nor confer on those admitted the right to remain against the national will. Nothing in the Constitution requires admission or sufferance of aliens hostile to our scheme of government."
Similarly, as Justice Antonin Scalia argued in his dissent in 2008's Boumediene v. Bush, "The writ of habeas corpus does not, and never has, run in favor of aliens abroad; the Suspension Clause thus has no application." And it is well-established (https://www.conservativereview.com/news/no-judge-has-jurisdiction-to-erase-our-border/) in U.S. Supreme Court case law that aliens stopped at the border are legally treated as if they are abroad — and are not treated as if they are lawfully in the interior of the country.


It seems like the president has perhaps finally had enough. On Monday, CNN reported (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/trump-family-separation-el-paso-kirstjen-nielsen/index.html) that Trump seems to be telegraphing to — if not outright instructing — executive branch subordinates to willfully defy a rogue judicial diktat that contravenes the nation's protection of its security and sovereignty.

Trump told border agents to break U.S. law and defy judicial orders https://t.co/Mq2yyX42Mo pic.twitter.com/AYi6B4lNMz (https://t.co/AYi6B4lNMz)
— Justin Miller (@justinjm1) April 8, 2019 (https://twitter.com/justinjm1/status/1115345630719877120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


Per CNN (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/08/politics/trump-family-separation-el-paso-kirstjen-nielsen/index.html):

Last Friday, the President visited Calexico, California, where he said, "We're full, our system's full, our country's full — can't come in! Our country is full, what can you do? We can't handle any more, our country is full. Can't come in, I'm sorry. It's very simple."
Behind the scenes, two sources told CNN, the President told border agents to not let migrants in. Tell them we don't have the capacity, he said. If judges give you trouble, say, "Sorry, judge, I can't do it. We don't have the room."
It is not clear how serious Trump is, but to the extent he is, this could be the closest he has come thus far to defying the erroneous (https://www.firstthings.com/article/2003/02/lincoln-on-judicial-despotism) constitutional status quo of judicial supremacy (https://www.dailywire.com/news/12437/jeff-sessions-should-not-think-roe-v-wade-law-land-josh-hammer). In an op-ed (https://www.dailywire.com/news/42341/hammer-it-past-time-trump-openly-defy-court-order-josh-hammer) in January, I argued that Trump should find an incorrectly decided, deeply destructive, sovereignty-infringing lower court judicial order to openly defy (perhaps except for the named litigant to the lawsuit):

Trump should start with defying a district court judge. Notwithstanding [Cooper v. Aaron's] erroneousness and the fact that not even the Supreme Court can bind a president as to its own constitutional interpretations, there is no serious argument that a single district court judge can actually bring the entirety of the political branches of the federal government to a complete halt. The next time an Obama-nominated resistance-type district court judge reaches an absurd legal conclusion and attempts to issue a (completely lawless (https://harvardlawreview.org/2017/12/multiple-chancellors-reforming-the-national-injunction/)) nationwide injunction against a prized Trump administration priority, the president should effectively tell that judge to go take a hike. Trump can make like Lincoln and enforce the judge's order as it pertains to the named litigant(s) to the actual underlying lawsuit, but he should go no further. He should resolutely refuse to treat the diktat as a broader and binding legal ruling. And he should have his Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel write a formal memorandum explaining exactly why nationwide injunctions are lawless, why Cooper and judicial supremacism are wildly at odds with a rudimentary understanding of constitutional structure, and why Lincoln was correct to treat Dred Scott as non-binding for everyone except Mr. Scott himself.





https://www.dailywire.com/news/45734/it-finally-time-trump-inches-closer-openly-defying-josh-hammer

Swordsmyth
04-10-2019, 05:06 PM
The White House said on Tuesday it would appeal a court ruling that halted a Trump administration policy requiring some asylum seekers to return to Mexico and wait for their legal cases to proceed.

“This action gravely undermines the president’s ability to address the crisis at the border with the tools Congress has authorized and disrupts the conduct of our foreign affairs,” the White House said in a statement.
“We intend to appeal, and we will take all necessary action to defend the executive branch’s lawful efforts to resolve the crisis at our southern border,” it added.
The judge’s ruling is scheduled to take effect on Friday. It was not immediately clear if the government would seek a suspension of the ruling while the appeals process runs its course.
A White House spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for additional comment.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-trump-appeal/white-house-will-appeal-ruling-against-returning-asylum-seekers-to-mexico-idUSKCN1RL2WI

nbhadja
04-10-2019, 05:41 PM
Shut down all ports of entries on the border and tax all money sent from people here to Central American countries at a rate of 35%. That would quickly end the border crisis because Mexico would quickly end it for us.

Swordsmyth
04-10-2019, 05:56 PM
Shut down all ports of entries on the border and tax all money sent from people here to Central American countries at a rate of 35%. That would quickly end the border crisis because Mexico would quickly end it for us.

That may start to happen:


POTUS to pursue an aggressive executive crackdown on immigration (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533104-POTUS-to-pursue-an-aggressive-executive-crackdown-on-immigration)

Swordsmyth
04-12-2019, 09:21 PM
The U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in favor of President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) Friday when it determined that the government can at least temporarily continue to send asylum seekers back to Mexico.



More at: https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/438738-appeals-court-rules-trump-admin-can-temporarily-continue-to-send

Anti Federalist
04-18-2019, 01:12 PM
Racism to the Rescue!

https://www.takimag.com/article/racism-to-the-rescue/

by David Cole

April 16, 2019

As a teen in the early 1980s, no issue was more important to my friends than the “imminent” threat of nuclear war. “Reagan’s gonna blow up the world! The Soviets just want peace. If we don’t ban the bomb, World War III will kill us all.” We young ’uns found cohesion and camaraderie in the antinuke cause. It was us against the ruthless, greedy, warmongering adults who didn’t care if they left us a world of nuclear winters and irradiated cities. As kids, our hands were clean. There were no teens with their finger on the button. It was all the responsibility of the oldies. We were the youth movement, making our voices heard, fighting for our very lives.

This was the same kids-vs.-adults group dynamic that drove the hippies. “Hey, you buttoned-down squares, we’re old enough to go die in your pointless wars, but we can’t drink, vote, or smoke pot.” Again, it was young vs. old…the peace-loving longhairs vs. the warlike crew cuts and their draft boards.

When “global warming” captured the imagination of the youth market in the 1990s, same deal. “You greedy capitalist adults are killing Mother Earth with your pollution and plastics! You’ll be leaving us a barren, used-up world.” Once more, we see us vs. them. No child, no teen, operated an oil refinery or coal mine. The young were fighting for their lives against selfish grown-ups who, unless they were stopped, would turn the world into Bartertown (and looking back, why the hell did we resist that?).

And now we come to the reason today’s politically woke kids are such pussies. All last year, the No. 1 issue among “youth activists” was gun control. “There are too many school shootings! We’re dying in our classrooms! We can’t even safely walk down the hallways. We live in fear…help us!” See the difference? Today’s anti-gun youth activists are all about “save us from ourselves.” The Hogg Generation isn’t about young vs. old; it’s about begging adults to stop kids from killing other kids. “We can’t stop murdering each other! We’re a generation of psychopaths! Do something, adults, do something! Keep guns out of our hands!”

This is why I have zero respect for these young dumb-asses. Can’t stop shooting each other? Sort that shit out yourselves…don’t bother responsible gun owners.

Hoggelian hysteria has petered out this year, almost certainly because it doesn’t have the allure of ’Nam, nuclear war, or environmental catastrophe. Most kids never experience a school shooting. But being drafted, getting fried by a nuke, or inheriting Waterworld, those concerns affected kids regardless of race, class, or personal experience. Hence the current renewed focus on “man-made climate change.” That’s an issue a bug-eyed bimbo like Ocasio-Cortez can run on to capture the youth vote. “They (the evil adults) are poisoning the earth that you youngsters will inherit.” Ocasio-Cortez may no longer be a teen, but since she has the mind of a toddler, it kind of evens itself out. And she understands the primal desire to see things as “us vs. them,” which usually works better than us vs. us.

Except…not always. Not when it comes to immigration. Last week, U.S. District Judge Richard Seeborg (you’re not gonna believe this, but the guy’s a San Francisco Obama appointee!) halted the Trump administration’s policy of forcing some asylum seekers to wait on the Meh-hee-can side of the border until their claims can be heard by a U.S. immigration court. I’m not gonna get all outrage-filled over this one…I mean, does it even matter anymore? Trump was recently in California, where he ventured to a border town to proudly show off a plaque representing his nonexistent wall (said plaque having been presented to him by a wizard from Emerald City. “Read what my plaque says: wall! Ain’t it the truth, ain’t it the truth”). Trump’s DHS has released more that 17,000 asylum seekers and illegals into the U.S. over the past month alone (125,565 since December), and it’s become crystal clear that a policy that should be left to a guy like Kris Kobach is squarely in the hands of Jared Kushner instead. So what does one leftist Frisco judge’s ruling even mean? It’s like getting the flu when you already have cancer.

I was, however, struck by the judge’s reasoning. In a nutshell, he wrote that the U.S. cannot tell asylum seekers to wait on the Mexican side of the border because (in honor of the esteemed jurist, I want to phrase this in the proper legal parlance) beaners just can’t stop murdering beaners. Beaners love murdering beaners so much that sending any beaner back to a beaner country is a likely death sentence, and U.S. amnesty laws prevent the return of an asylum seeker to any country in which that person may face death. To be clear, Seeborg was not claiming that these immigrants (and specifically the ones who were plaintiffs in the case before him) were fleeing a repressive system. This isn’t East Germans escaping to the West. No, the claim is that they’re fleeing an innately and incurably violent people. The threat comes from their neighbors, their local cops, their teenagers.

In other words, it’s not about “shithole countries,” but “shithole people.” Indeed, while Seeborg, in a footnote on page 19 of the ruling, states that he has no proof that Hondurans or Guatemalans will face the same danger in a Mexican border town that they would in their home country, he ends up agreeing with the plaintiffs’ contention that “they have continued to experience physical and verbal assaults, and live in fear of future violence in Mexico” (emphasis mine), even though Mexico is not the country from which they’re fleeing.

So this is not even remotely a matter of escaping a specific government, or escaping a specific war, but rather escaping a specific people. Fleeing a race of irreparably violent humans. The specific country doesn’t matter; Hondurans are just as at-risk from Mexicans as they are from other Hondurans. Fleeing Guatemala? Baja’s just as dangerous, because you’re still surrounded by Latinos.

Holy shit that’s racist! Seeborg cites the U.N. Convention on Refugees to support his conclusion. Dude should’ve quoted the Turner Diaries instead.

And Seeborg is not alone; he’s merely restating the standard talking point among the “amnesty for all browns” crowd: there’s no “political solution” to the Latin American refugee problem. No election will fix it, no peace treaty will solve it. These poor wretches are being driven out by the people in their own towns—the teen gangs, the drug dealers, the corrupt local cops, the neighbors who steal their possessions and rape their daughters (quick impression—Honduran Ned Flanders: “Hidley-ho, vecino-rino! Mind if I cut-diddly-ut your throat?”). Now, to be sure, leftists try to spin this argument to make it America’s (i.e., white people’s) fault: “The U.S. drug trade enriches the gangs!” That’s not untrue. “The U.S. backs hard-line governments that punish violent teens too cruelly, thus creating generations of hardened criminals.” Irrelevant, because the “they’ll die if they’re returned!” talking point also applies to refugees from Central American nations not aligned with the U.S.

And then there’s “No, it isn’t gang violence that’s driving the Central American refugee crisis, but U.S. economic policies.” In the words of leftist immigration activist extraordinaire David Bacon, although “gang violence is the most-cited cause in U.S. media coverage, migration is as much or more a consequence of the increasing economic crisis for rural people” in the affected regions. This is worse than irrelevant. That line of reasoning destroys Seeborg’s ruling, which is based solely on the likelihood of violence (“extreme violence” in their home country, and “future violence” if temporarily housed in Mexico). Under current law, the U.S. has no obligation to grant asylum to job seekers. Hence Seeborg’s concentration on the violence and risk aspect.

The ruling’s “money shot” is Seeborg’s extension of the violence argument to Mexico, even in light of the fact that the plaintiffs before him were not from Mexico, and temporarily keeping them there would not mean returning them to the hellholes from which they fled. According to Seeborg, it’s not about the specific reasons these people fled their home countries. Indeed, it’s not about any one country. It’s about how every brown country puts the plaintiffs at risk. A Salvadoran is as much at risk in northern Mexico as in southern El Salvador.

I could make the obvious point that if Latinos are that irredeemably bad, doesn’t the U.S. have a clear national security interest in a blanket immigration ban of people from the region? If Latinos are unsafe around Latinos, aren’t we unsafe around them too? But I’m more interested in putting leftists on the spot. Why you puttin’ up with all this racism, papi? Why you puttin’ up with this claim that brown folks are inherently dangerous? Why ain’tcha picketing outside Judge Seeborg’s chambers? Here’s the cynicism of the social justice crowd. They want mass nonwhite immigration so badly, they’ll even support racist rhetoric to get it.

If some anonymous white Twitterer posted a message saying, “I went to Guatemala—what a violent people. But damn, the Mexicans are just as bad!” he’d be Roseanne Barred from society. But Judge Seeborg, in the name of “The Resistance,” can basically say the exact same thing, and he gets cheers.

Not to belabor the point, but the average white can’t even say “I don’t like tacos” without being called Hitler. And here’s Judge Seeborg essentially saying, “No Latin American refugee is safe in any country run by brown people. Latin American refugees are only safe in white countries,” and every social justice extremist is cool with it.

How the hell can that make sense, unless anti-racists don’t mind anti-Latino racism as long as it furthers their cause.

I’m no fan of Mexico, but it’s not Treblinka. It’s bad parts are bad, it’s good parts are good, and I know plenty of people (Mexican nationals and white expats) who’ve lived in places like Tijuana with no problems. Seeborg’s reasoning is full of shit, as are the people who are purposely not screaming “racism” because Seeborg’s argument, “Latinos are dangerous wherever they’re the majority,” serves their interests.

Three days ago, Seeborg’s ruling was temporarily stayed by the Ninth Circuit (dafuk?). Immigration attorneys and the ACLU responded by repeating the talking point that a brief stay in Mexico for Guatemalans, Salvadorans, and Hondurans “puts the lives of asylum seekers at risk.” Because they’re not fleeing their home countries; they’re fleeing Latino people.

The teen activists who spent all last year begging adults to save kids from other kids are too stupid to be cynical. But the people currently asking us to save brown people from other brown people know exactly what they’re doing. It’s a cynical and calculated strategy, and one that lays bare the fact that leftist “anti-racists” are totally fine with racist rhetoric, as long as it’s in the service of the long con they’re pulling on this nation.

oyarde
04-18-2019, 01:16 PM
How can any court find that asylum seekers are to wait outside the country for approval ? What standing can be used for that ? If they are already here they are in fact already given asylum .

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 02:58 PM
How can any court find that asylum seekers are to wait outside the country for approval ? What standing can be used for that ? If they are already here they are in fact already given asylum .
They are illegals who claimed asylum when caught, they should be thrown back across the border.