POTUS to pursue an aggressive executive crackdown on immigration

[Swordsmyth]

The White House is exploring all executive authorities in existing law that will allow an aggressive crackdown on illegal immigration and legal immigration fraud, senior adviser to the president Stephen Miller told The Daily Caller in an exclusive telephone interview.
“There’s going to be an aggressive effort to utilize every existing authority in statute,” Miller announced, explaining (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/02/white-house-prepares-case-trump-closes-border/) that several authorities exist in immigration laws passed by Congress throughout history, including the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act.


Miller noted that the White House is “systematically reviewing all authorities that are already on the books, both in terms of cracking down on illegal immigration and […] the abuse of our legal immigration system.” The targeted abuse actions include illegal immigrants who overstay temporary visas, “combatting or addressing legal benefit seeking in the legal immigration system.”
Noting that there are approximately 1 million illegal aliens in the United States with final removal orders that still remain at large — in some cases for several years — Miller gave one example of the type of executive action the administration can take. The presidential adviser noted that existing law has a statute that allows for a “significant financial penalty” for every single day that an alien resides in the country after being ordered removed.


Miller stressed that legal immigration abuse will be targeted aggressively, particularly “welfare seeking” by legal immigrants or in some cases “welfare tourism.” He neglected to offer a timeline for when the orders will be implemented but said that “this is going to begin right away.”
Miller explained that the actions were designed to “dramatically raise the pressure on Congress and in particular the congressional Democrats” to pass laws reforming the U.S. immigration system.
Explaining why it took so long into the Trump presidency to pursue such aggressive action on illegal immigration, Miller listed a litany of actions taken throughout the past two years. He also explained that many forthcoming regulations “are nearing their completion date,” and that they will “have transformative effects on our immigration system.”

More at: https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/02/stephen-miller-crackdown-illegal-immigration/

[Zippyjuan]

Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.

[Swordsmyth]

Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.

I don't see that anywhere but in your head.

[Stratovarious]

“welfare tourism''

'Mexican isn't a race' .... Los Pierre .....

[Stratovarious]

Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.
Why don't we just cut out all the incentives and build the wall....

[Zippyjuan]

I don't see that anywhere but in your head.

It is the only way we can find everybody who is not legally in the country.

[Zippyjuan]

Why don't we just cut out all the incentives and build the wall....

Ron Paul says we don't need more walls (we have over 600 miles of them right now).

[Swordsmyth]

It is the only way we can find everybody who is not legally in the country.
We don't need 100% effectiveness.

[Stratovarious]

Ron Paul says we don't need more walls (we have over 600 miles of them right now).

They are not working, Ron knows that, but he can't just wash out his legacy in his last hours.
Well I hope he's here another 80 years, but hey the clock ticks for all of us.......

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Ron Paul says we don't need more walls (we have over 600 miles of them right now).


But you're against Ron Paul. So?

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Papers, please!

Coming from the guy who says we should have state papers for carrying firearms.

[euphemia]

If you travel to other places, you are required to carry your documents. Authorities can ask for them at any time.

[Swordsmyth]

Border Wall Already Funded by DOD, Awaits Commander-In-Chief’s Go-Ahead (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/border-wall-already-funded-by-dod-awaits-commander-in-chiefs-go-ahead/)

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump sent a message to migrants and illegal immigrants looking to cross into the United States on the Southern border on Friday. “The system is full whether its asylum, whether its illegal immigration, our country is full, our area is full, the sector is full, we can’t take you anymore,” Trump said. “I’m sorry, so turn around, that’s the way it is.”
The president held a roundtable meeting with Border Patrol agents and military officials at the El Centro sector in Calexico, California.


Agents at the roundtable thanked Trump for helping construct the additional barriers on the border.
The president said he was prepared to bring in more military forces from Mexico to assist the agents on the Southern border, and promised to support the members of law enforcement at the border.
He urged Congress to work on a plan to eliminate the loopholes exploited by immigrants from Central America.
“It’s bad. Whether it’s catch and release or the visa lottery. So many of them. Chain migration. Total disaster,” Trump said. “The asylum laws are broken. I inherited this stuff. We’re going to get it fixed. We have to.”

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/05/donald-trump-tells-migrants-turn-around-we-cant-take-you-anymore/

[Zippyjuan]

Border Wall Already Funded by DOD, Awaits Commander-In-Chief’s Go-Ahead (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/border-wall-already-funded-by-dod-awaits-commander-in-chiefs-go-ahead/)

DOD offered him $1 billion. Trump wants 400 miles of wall built by 2020. Can't get there on $1 billion (plus the $1.3 Congress authorized).

[Zippyjuan]

So many of them. Chain migration. Total disaster,” Trump said.

Trump's mother came as a unaccompanied minor on chain migration. So did his grandfather (his father's father).

[Swordsmyth]

DOD offered him $1 billion. Trump wants 400 miles of wall built by 2020. Can't get there on $1 billion (plus the $1.3 Congress authorized).
That's just for one section, there will be more.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump's mother came as a unaccompanied minor on chain migration. So did his grandfather (his father's father).

That makes no difference.

[Zippyjuan]

That makes no difference.

I guess he never really liked his family anyways.

[Swordsmyth]

I guess he never really liked his family anyways.
Irrelevant and speculative.

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump sent a message to migrants and illegal immigrants looking to cross into the United States on the Southern border on Friday.

“The system is full whether its asylum, whether its illegal immigration, our country is full, our area is full, the sector is full, we can’t take you anymore,” Trump said. “I’m sorry, so turn around, that’s the way it is.”
The president held a roundtable meeting with Border Patrol agents and military officials at the El Centro sector in Calexico, California.


Agents at the roundtable thanked Trump for helping construct the additional barriers on the border.
The president said he was prepared to bring in more military forces from Mexico to assist the agents on the Southern border, and promised to support the members of law enforcement at the border.
He urged Congress to work on a plan to eliminate the loopholes exploited by immigrants from Central America.
“It’s bad. Whether it’s catch and release or the visa lottery. So many of them. Chain migration. Total disaster,” Trump said. “The asylum laws are broken. I inherited this stuff. We’re going to get it fixed. We have to.”

More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/05/donald-trump-tells-migrants-turn-around-we-cant-take-you-anymore/





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-SmSoFeDC0...

[Pauls' Revere]

With this new timeline that he has given Mexico a year to halt immigration to the US, if I'm an immigrant my first thought is I got a year deadline to make this happen. My guess is were going to see more and more and larger caravans and hoards of people. Especially before the Summer months and after Summer when the desert cools down a bit.

[Swordsmyth]

With this new timeline that he has given Mexico a year to halt immigration to the US, if I'm an immigrant my first thought is I got a year deadline to make this happen. My guess is were going to see more and more and larger caravans and hoards of people. Especially before the Summer months and after Summer when the desert cools down a bit.
The "border closing" is about the legal ports of entry, not the rest of the border, presumably he will continue to try and secure the rest of the border.

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump is preparing to roll out new executive orders to help the government better manage the record influx of illegal immigration at the southern border.
The White House is looking to make it more difficult for low-skilled migrants to gain entry into the U.S. while making it easier for high-skilled migrants who are more likely to be self-sufficient, according to sources who spoke (https://www.axios.com/newsletters/axios-am-d7fc5ba1-0527-443c-a02a-1c5aefd599e7.html?chunk=0&utm_term=emshare#story0) with Axios. The administration also wants to make it harder for asylum seekers to claim fear of returning to their home country, and it wants the ability to detain migrant children longer than the current 20-day limit.

The president’s aides have reportedly expressed interest in ending birthright citizenship, deploying more troops at the U.S.-Mexico border, expediting wall construction, and closing ports of entry along the border. Senior administration officials claimed (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/08/us/politics/trump-asylum-seekers-federal-judge.html) to the New York Times that Trump has also expressed interest repeatedly in restarting family separation.

Trump, under intense scrutiny from progressive groups, ended (https://dailycaller.com/2018/06/20/trump-considers-executive-action-to-stop-family-separation/) family separation in June 2018. A revamped version of this policy reportedly being discussed in the White House is known as “binary choice.” The proposal would give illegal migrant parents a choice: voluntarily allow their kids to be separated from them, or waive their protections so they can be detained together.

More at: https://truepundit.com/trump-is-preparing-to-implement-his-toughest-immigration-plan-yet/

[Swordsmyth]

Is It Finally The Time? Trump Inches Closer To Openly Defying A Judicial Order (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533313-Is-It-Finally-The-Time-Trump-Inches-Closer-To-Openly-Defying-A-Judicial-Order)

[Swordsmyth]

The White House is planning on targeting remittance payments made by illegal immigrants in the wake of an ongoing migrant flood at the U.S. southern border, a senior administration official told reporters Tuesday.
The plans to target remittance payments come amid a broader shakeup (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/08/secret-service-head-trump-shakeup-dhs/) at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and future executive actions designed to curb illegal immigration. The situation at the southern border has escalated in recent weeks, with thousands of migrants arriving daily to claim asylum.


Officials say the illegal arrivals are spurred (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/08/immigration-why-trump-kirstjen-nielsen-fallout/) by loopholes in U.S. immigration law that allow family units claiming asylum to arrive illegally and still be released into the interior of the country with a work permit.
The migrants are then given a court date at some point in the future to adjudicate the asylum claim, with the vast majority failing to ultimately get a favorable asylum ruling. These migrants rarely show up for deportation, with the senior administration official calling the practice “backdoor illegal immigration.”

The White House plan to go after remittance payments falls in line with a proposal from former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who is being considered to replace outgoing DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

More at: https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/09/white-house-plans-target-remittance-payments/

[RonZeplin]

Could Hillary have gotten away with this catch & release scam?. Obama couldn't match the numbers Donnell has achieved. Welcome to America, sanctuary & amnesty for all.
Vote Reconquista Republican!

DHS Releases Nearly 8,000 Border Crossers, Illegal Aliens in One Week (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/dhs-releases-nearly-eight-thousand-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-in-one-week/)

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released nearly 8,000 border crossers and illegal aliens over the last week, new federal data confirms.

According to catch and release numbers obtained by Breitbart News, DHS has released about 7,935 border crossers and illegal aliens into the interior of the United States in the last seven days.

The catch and release process often entails federal immigration officials busing (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/11/dhs-continues-busing-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-into-u-s-for-release/)border crossers into nearby border cities and dropping them off (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/25/at-least-1-1k-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-released-into-u-s-over-weekend/) with the promise that they will show up for their immigration and asylum hearings, sometimes years later. The overwhelming majority of border crossers and illegal aliens are never deported from the country once they are released into the U.S.

Since December 21, 2018, DHS has released:


13,200 border crossers into the San Diego, California, area
23,700 border crossers into the Phoenix, Arizona, area
40,600 border crossers into the El Paso, Texas, area
56,000 border crossers into the San Antonio, Texas, area

In total, since the end of last year, DHS has released about 133,500 border crossers and illegal aliens into the U.S. — a population more than double the population of Portland, Maine, and nearly triple the population of Galveston, Texas. Current data suggests that DHS releases more than 1,000 border crossers and illegal aliens into the U.S. every day.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been tasked with releasing border crossers and illegal aliens into the interior of the U.S., ICE officials have confirmed (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/13/ice-union-thousands-of-illegal-aliens-are-being-released-into-u-s-with-catch-and-release-in-overdrive/), under an agreement between former DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and ICE official Ron Vitiello.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/dhs-releases-nearly-eight-thousand-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-in-one-week/

[Swordsmyth]

Could Hillary have gotten away with this catch & release scam?. Obama couldn't match the numbers Donnell has achieved. Welcome to America, sanctuary & amnesty for all.
Vote Reconquista Republican!

DHS Releases Nearly 8,000 Border Crossers, Illegal Aliens in One Week (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/dhs-releases-nearly-eight-thousand-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-in-one-week/)

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) released nearly 8,000 border crossers and illegal aliens over the last week, new federal data confirms.

According to catch and release numbers obtained by Breitbart News, DHS has released about 7,935 border crossers and illegal aliens into the interior of the United States in the last seven days.

The catch and release process often entails federal immigration officials busing (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/11/dhs-continues-busing-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-into-u-s-for-release/)border crossers into nearby border cities and dropping them off (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/25/at-least-1-1k-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-released-into-u-s-over-weekend/) with the promise that they will show up for their immigration and asylum hearings, sometimes years later. The overwhelming majority of border crossers and illegal aliens are never deported from the country once they are released into the U.S.

Since December 21, 2018, DHS has released:


13,200 border crossers into the San Diego, California, area
23,700 border crossers into the Phoenix, Arizona, area
40,600 border crossers into the El Paso, Texas, area
56,000 border crossers into the San Antonio, Texas, area

In total, since the end of last year, DHS has released about 133,500 border crossers and illegal aliens into the U.S. — a population more than double the population of Portland, Maine, and nearly triple the population of Galveston, Texas. Current data suggests that DHS releases more than 1,000 border crossers and illegal aliens into the U.S. every day.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) has been tasked with releasing border crossers and illegal aliens into the interior of the U.S., ICE officials have confirmed (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/13/ice-union-thousands-of-illegal-aliens-are-being-released-into-u-s-with-catch-and-release-in-overdrive/), under an agreement between former DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen and ICE official Ron Vitiello.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/dhs-releases-nearly-eight-thousand-border-crossers-illegal-aliens-in-one-week/
:sleeping:
Trump is doing the best he can and he is about to do better.

[Zippyjuan]

The White House is planning on targeting remittance payments made by illegal immigrants in the wake of an ongoing migrant flood at the U.S. southern border, a senior administration official told reporters Tuesday.
The plans to target remittance payments come amid a broader shakeup (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/08/secret-service-head-trump-shakeup-dhs/) at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and future executive actions designed to curb illegal immigration. The situation at the southern border has escalated in recent weeks, with thousands of migrants arriving daily to claim asylum.


Officials say the illegal arrivals are spurred (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/08/immigration-why-trump-kirstjen-nielsen-fallout/) by loopholes in U.S. immigration law that allow family units claiming asylum to arrive illegally and still be released into the interior of the country with a work permit.
The migrants are then given a court date at some point in the future to adjudicate the asylum claim, with the vast majority failing to ultimately get a favorable asylum ruling. These migrants rarely show up for deportation, with the senior administration official calling the practice “backdoor illegal immigration.”

The White House plan to go after remittance payments falls in line with a proposal from former Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who is being considered to replace outgoing DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

More at: https://www.dailycaller.com/2019/04/09/white-house-plans-target-remittance-payments/

Yay! Approving government seizing private property! How libertarian!

The irony being that not allowing people to send money will encourage more to come to the US. The money supports people who live in the country it is sent to. Less money, more incentive to go to the US and look for work yourself. Or for a worker to bring his/ her family to the US to join them.

[Swordsmyth]

Yay! Approving government seizing private property! How libertarian!
Ill gotten gains of criminal invaders.

[Zippyjuan]

Ill gotten gains of criminal invaders.

Ah- "criminal invaders". Guidebook key words again.

[Swordsmyth]

Ah- "criminal invaders". Guidebook key words again.

Truth is my Guidebook.

You should consider using it.

[Swordsmyth]

The irony being that not allowing people to send money will encourage more to come to the US. The money supports people who live in the country it is sent to. Less money, more incentive to go to the US and look for work yourself. Or for a worker to bring his/ her family to the US to join them.
IT IS always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
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"We invaded you last night – we are quite prepared to fight,
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/pix/spacer.jpg Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
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That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
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It is always a temptation for a rich and lazy nation,
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/pix/spacer.jpgTo puff and look important and to say: –
"Though we know we should defeat you,
we have not the time to meet you.
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And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
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That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
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It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
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So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/pix/spacer.jpgYou will find it better policy to say: --

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/pix/spacer.jpg No matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
http://www.kiplingsociety.co.uk/pix/spacer.jpg And the nation that plays it is lost!"

-Rudyard Kipling

[Swordsmyth]

The Trump administration (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/trump-administration) plans to aggressively push for tougher screening of asylum seekers (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/asylum-seekers) that will make it vastly more difficult for migrants (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/migrants) fleeing persecution in their home countries to win protection in the United States, a senior administration official told reporters on Tuesday.
The official said that President Trump ordered a shake-up of his top immigration (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/Immigration) officials in recent days because they were moving too slowly, or even actively obstructing, the president’s desire to confront the surge of migrants at the southwestern border. The asylum changes are among many policies the president wants to put into effect with a new team in place, the official said.
Mr Trump denied on Tuesday that one of those changes would be to restart his policy of separating migrant families at the border, though he said that the act of taking children from their parents — which drew global condemnation before he abandoned it last summer — was effective.
“Now I’ll tell you something, once you don’t have it, that’s why you see many more people coming,” Mr Trump said. “They are coming like it’s a picnic, because, ‘Let’s go to Disneyland (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/disneyland).’”
The administration official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity even as Mr Trump was making his remarks, said a modified version of family separation, in which parents are given a choice of whether to be separated or to accept indefinite detention alongside their children, continues to be under consideration.


But the so-called binary choice proposal is “not ripe for White House consideration” right now, he insisted, because the government does not currently have the detention space to hold families if the policy were put in place.
The asylum changes being envisioned could drastically alter the role that the United States plays as a refuge for people fleeing poverty, violence and war. American and international laws require it to allow migrants to request asylum once they come to the country.
But the official said that an initial assessment of the basis for a request for asylum — known as a “credible fear” screening — too often accepts the claim that the migrant was persecuted. The official also said that many more asylum seekers should be rejected during that first step.
Out of 97,728 completed interviews with migrants in the fiscal year that ended on 30 September 2018, the United States Citizenship and Immigration Services confirmed a credible fear of persecution 74,677 times, according to an agency official.
Changes in the screening process could drastically lower those findings by requiring more proof from asylum seekers that they would be persecuted in their home countries. Screeners could also try to verify migrant claims by using State Department assessments of the threats that exist in those countries.


The administration official blamed the delay in that effort on “deep state” bureaucrats at the Department of Homeland Security and even the president’s own political appointees in the department, whom the official described as lacking the management skills to push Mr Trump’s agenda.
The official declined to name specific administration officials who have failed. But he made thinly veiled references to two top officials at the Department of Homeland Security: John Mitnick, the department’s general counsel, and L. Francis Cissna, the head of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services.
He said there was “clearly a track record” in which the president’s policies have not been advanced.


Customs and Border Protection officials this week underscored Mr Trump’s concern about illegal immigration by announcing that more than 103,000 migrants crossed the southwestern border in March without authorization, an increase from the more than 76,000 migrants who crossed in February.
“Just last month, we saw record numbers of family units and unaccompanied juvenile apprehensions in February, and unfortunately, March apprehension numbers are again record-setting and cause dire concerns for us,” said Brian Hastings, the chief of law enforcement operations for the Border Patrol.
Most of the migrants — 92,000 of the 103,000 — were apprehended by Border Patrol agents, meaning they crossed in between the ports of entry.
More than 53,000 of those migrants were members of a family, Mr Hastings said, and most of those families were from Honduras, Guatemala (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/guatemala) or El Salvador (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/salvador).
In the first half of fiscal year 2019, Border Patrol agents apprehended more than 385,000 migrants on the border, more than double those apprehended during the same time last year.
Mr Hastings said the Border Patrol can generally maintain 4,500 people in its custody. But it recently counted 13,000 migrants in its facilities, and he said the overflow has led to the release of families into cities along the border.
“Backups have resulted in individuals spending additional time in Border Patrol custody in increasingly crowded conditions,” Mr Hastings said.
On Tuesday, White House officials announced that the president would appeal a judge’s ruling that blocked the administration’s “Migrant Protection Protocols,” which require some asylum seekers to remain in Mexico (http://www.independent.co.uk/topic/Mexico) while they wait for their court cases.
Mr Trump has recently commended Mexico for doing more to stem migration to the border, but the officials said they have not seen any effect on the number of people crossing it. “The numbers aren’t declining; in fact, we’re still seeing 3,000 apprehensions per day,” Mr Hastings said.
Officials also revealed that among the tens of thousands of family members approaching the border each month, just 3,100 people who said they were travelling with relatives were found to have a fraudulent claim. Those people either said they had a child when the individual was over 18 or the group’s members were not really related.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-administration-plans-tougher-asylum-095300519.html

[Swordsmyth]

The Department of Defense is sending additional personnel to assist agents at the U.S. border with Mexico. This comes amid a shakeup at the Department of Homeland Security and the departure of Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.
(https://news.yahoo.com/militarys-role-u-border-mexico-191003073.html)

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Yay! Approving government seizing private property! How libertarian!




But you're really really really against libertarians.

[Zippyjuan]

The Department of Defense is sending additional personnel to assist agents at the U.S. border with Mexico. This comes amid a shakeup at the Department of Homeland Security and the departure of Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.
(https://news.yahoo.com/militarys-role-u-border-mexico-191003073.html)

Maybe. Might be asked to help set up some tents.

[ATruepatriot]

The irony being that not allowing people to send money will encourage more to come to the US. The money supports people who live in the country it is sent to. Less money, more incentive to go to the US and look for work yourself. Or for a worker to bring his/ her family to the US to join them.

You have it completely backwards... The money sent there funds them to get here.

We may take it then that an army without its baggage train is lost; without provisions it is lost; without bases of supply it is lost. ~ Sun Tzu

[Swordsmyth]

Donald Trump Has Ordered Thousands More Troops to Mexican Border, New Deployment Document Suggests (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-troops-border-mexican-nielsen-1397532)

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1118377295763390464

1118377295763390464

[Swordsmyth]

The Trump administration wants to open two new tent facilities to temporarily detain up to 1,000 parents and children near the southern border, as advocates sharply criticize the conditions inside the tents already used to hold migrants.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection said in a notice to potential contractors that it wants to house 500 people in each camp in El Paso, Texas, and in the South Texas city of Donna, which has a border crossing with Mexico.
Each facility would consist of one large tent that could be divided into sections by gender and between families and children traveling alone, according to the notice. Detainees would sleep on mats. There would also be laundry facilities, showers, and an "additional fenced-in area" for "outside exercise/recreation."
The notice says the facilities could open in the next two weeks and operate through year end, with a cost that could reach $37 million.

More at: https://www.centredaily.com/news/nation-world/article229338129.html

[RJB]

But you're really really really against libertarians.

Yep.

Socialism is actually very Christian.

[Zippyjuan]

Donald Trump Has Ordered Thousands More Troops to Mexican Border, New Deployment Document Suggests (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-troops-border-mexican-nielsen-1397532)

Text of article says it is not "thousands". Mostly setting up some tents.


However, on Tuesday afternoon, the Pentagon emailed a Newsweek reporter and said the number is not 3,000, and the document Newsweek obtained was a draft copy and if Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan approved any Homeland Security request, the number of additional troops would range between 300 and 500.

Some will be replacing troops already there.

[enhanced_deficit]

Border Wall Already Funded by DOD, Awaits Commander-In-Chief’s Go-Ahead (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/border-wall-already-funded-by-dod-awaits-commander-in-chiefs-go-ahead/)



MSM media seems to be not covering this, if confirmed as non-fakewnews this would be huge and help shore up GOP conservative base / rebuild MAGA image as a great deal maker.

Wall funding was also apparently the roadblock in MAGA's plan to solve DACA issue, this news could mean MAGA may soon have another big accomplishment on that front.

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(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)https://66.media.tumblr.com/22db3e85a27e15497786d80e5348b977/tumblr_p3gzmuEUPq1we4t2no1_640.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)

[Swordsmyth]

Text of article says it is not "thousands". Mostly setting up some tents.



Some will be replacing troops already there.

Read the next part:


However, on Tuesday afternoon, the Pentagon emailed a Newsweek reporter and said the number is not 3,000, and the document Newsweek obtained was a draft copy and if Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan approved any Homeland Security request, the number of additional troops would range between 300 and 500.

Three Defense Department sources told Newsweek the document is not a draft copy and if it were, draft would be displayed on the document near the classification markings.



It is definitely in dispute how many troops are involved.

[Zippyjuan]

Read the next part:



It is definitely in dispute how many troops are involved.

Read the first part of that.


However, on Tuesday afternoon, the Pentagon emailed a Newsweek reporter and said the number is not 3,000, and the document Newsweek obtained was a draft copy and if Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan approved any Homeland Security request, the number of additional troops would range between 300 and 500

[Swordsmyth]

Read the first part of that.
I did and the next part contradicts it.

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump is proposing charging asylum-seekers a fee to process their applications as he continues to crack down on the surge of migrants crossing into the U.S.In a presidential memorandum signed Monday, Trump is directing his attorney general and acting homeland security secretary to take additional measures to overhaul the asylum system, which he insists is "in crisis."
He's giving them 90 days to propose regulations so that, all asylum applications are adjudicated within 180 days, except for those representing exceptional circumstances.
Trump also wants to charge asylum-seekers to process their asylum and employment authorization applications. And he wants to bar anyone who has entered or tried to enter the country illegally from receiving authorization that allows them to work.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/trump-wants-to-charge-asylum-seekers-fee

[r3volution 3.0]

Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.I don't see that anywhere but in your head.

You're in favor of people having to provide proof of citizenship to work, buy land, or do certain other things within the country, aren't you?

[Swordsmyth]

You're in favor of people having to provide proof of citizenship to work, buy land, or do certain other things within the country, aren't you?

I oppose mandatory e-verify but there are things that should require proof of citizenship, like voting.

[r3volution 3.0]

I oppose mandatory e-verify but there are things that should require proof of citizenship, like voting.

Anything else?

[Swordsmyth]

Anything else?
Probably but I don't have a list in my head, most things should not require it however.

[Swordsmyth]

Since the beginning of the year, Border Patrol officers have faced an relentless wave of illegal aliens that total more than 400,000.
But most of the illegal are arriving as family units, the data show. Since October, the figure is 215,745 (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration).
One reason for “families?” Illegals know (https://www.google.com/url?client=internal-uds-cse&cx=017005590850498995214:snxgxrq2gpc&q=https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/31665-cbp-border-in-crisis-situation-unsustainable&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi_l5nC1_jhAhVDZN8KHX9YDqs4ChAWMAF6BAgPE AI&usg=AOvVaw0rLmmKIzGdofCObjj_MmmZ) that carting a kid along means an almost certain ticket to be released into the United States after border agents apprehend them.
That knowledge, Immigration and Customs Enforcement reports, has provided an incentive for illegals to lie by creating phony documents that in turn create fake families,
Thus has ICE moved more resources to the border to look for the fakers.
Result? Of the 100 or so “families,” ICE officers have investigated, 25 were bogus.

They Know The Loopholes
How many illegals have slipped by border agents with phony ID and manufactured tales of woe we are not given to know, although the White House has said (https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Border-Briefing.pdf) about 90 percent of the asylum claims from “migrants,” who are mostly from the Northern Triangle, are bogus.
So ICE has moved (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-shifts-resources-address-crisis-southwest-border#wcm-survey-target-id) more resources to the border, the agency announced on Monday, to ferret out fake documents and human smugglers.
The week before Easter, ICE Home Security Investigations sent three teams to support Customs and Border Protection officials in El Paso, (https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-patrol-sectors/el-paso-sector-texas) Texas, and Las Cruces, New Mexico. The following week, ICE HSI sent three teams to Eagle Pass and Harlingen (https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-patrol-sectors/del-rio-sector-texas/eagle-pass-station), Texas, Yuma (https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-patrol-sectors/yuma-sector-arizona), Arizona, and El Centro (https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-patrol-sectors/el-centro-sector-california) and San Diego (https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/along-us-borders/border-patrol-sectors/san-diego-sector-california), California.
The agency also temporarily moved about 330 deportation officers to those border areas where the illegal-invasion of the last six months is a particular concern.
“Throughout April, HSI special agents have conducted about 100 family unit interviews and have found evidence of fraud in more than a quarter of cases,” ICE reported (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-shifts-resources-address-crisis-southwest-border#wcm-survey-target-id). “This fraud may include the use of forged birth certificates or other fraudulent documents to establish parentage.” In addition:
Forged or other fraudulent documents are also being used by adult illegal aliens to falsely claim they are minors under the age of 18. By fraudulently entering as a family unit or unaccompanied minor, illegal aliens can exploit loopholes in immigration laws to enter the U.S. and avoid detention.
Earlier today, The New American reported (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/32154-border-crisis-turns-troops-into-costly-babysitters) that the Pentagon moved 320 more troops to the border through Sept. 30, at a cost of $7.4 million, to help border agents deal with illegal-alien tsunami, which again, carries most families from Guatemala, Honduras, and El Salvador.
Word of the weakness of U.S. immigration law has traveled to Central America, where smugglers are advertising for “migrants” to move north, sometimes in caravans of buses (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/32051-cbp-tosses-net-over-360-illegals-at-one-time-as-smugglers-advertise-and-the-drugs-keep-coming) that deliver them straight to the border.
Once there, as The New American has reported (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/32058-illegal-alien-smugglers-used-drone-to-watch-border-patrol-1-800-illegals-nailed-in-el-paso-sector-in-one-day), the smugglers move the illegals across, sometimes with the help of drones to spot U.S. border agents.
Fakers Caught, And So Were Three Smugglers
Among those caught are two father-and-son “family units” on April 22. “The four individuals, two of whom were discovered to be 23-year-old men pretending to be minors,” ICE reported (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-shifts-resources-address-crisis-southwest-border#wcm-survey-target-id), “are being prosecuted for visa fraud and making false statements.”
ICE caught another faker on April 18. “An adult Honduran man presented a false birth certificate for a 7-year-old child traveling with him,” ICE reported. “During an interview, the adult admitted that he was completely unrelated to the child. The man was prosecuted for illegal entry and the child was turned over to the Office of Refugee Resettlement as an unaccompanied minor, according to procedures required in the Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act.”
Meanwhile, CBP agents nailed (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/local-media-release/border-patrol-stops-two-smuggling-attempts-near-ajo) three Americans who attempted to smuggle right Mexicans across the border at the Tohono O’odham nation.
On Friday night, agents stopped a car with six passengers: a driver and five illegals wearing camouflage. On Sunday, they nailed the driver and a passenger, both Americans, trying to smuggle three illegals into the country.
Authorities charged the eight illegals with immigration violations and the three Americans with smuggling humans.


More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/32162-ice-moves-agents-to-border-to-catch-fake-families-real-smugglers

[enhanced_deficit]

The Department of Defense is sending additional personnel to assist agents at the U.S. border with Mexico.



This again shows MAGA has a big heart as he said during DACA deal negotiations with Dems.



Pentagon sending 100s of cooks to border to cook food for migrants (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533876-Pentagon-sending-100s-of-cooks-to-border-to-cook-food-for-migrants&)

The Pentagon plans to send about 300 more U.S. active-duty troops to the border as cooks and drivers, some of whom will come into contact with migrants as they hand out food to migrants as part of the mission to help U.S. Customs and Border Protection deal with the large number of migrants arriving at the southern border.

[Swordsmyth]

This again shows MAGA has a big heart as he said during DACA deal negotiations with Dems.



Pentagon sending 100s of cooks to border to cook food for migrants (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533876-Pentagon-sending-100s-of-cooks-to-border-to-cook-food-for-migrants&)

The Pentagon plans to send about 300 more U.S. active-duty troops to the border as cooks and drivers, some of whom will come into contact with migrants as they hand out food to migrants as part of the mission to help U.S. Customs and Border Protection deal with the large number of migrants arriving at the southern border.
:sleeping:

The troops will free up more Border Patrol to patrol the border.

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump is reportedly preparing to give law enforcement officials the authority to conduct interviews with asylum seekers arriving on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Under the upcoming plan, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) officers would train Border Patrol (https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/01/border-patrol-new-mexico-migrants/) agents deployed on the southern border on how to perform “credible fear interviews,” according to sources who spoke with (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-administration-to-give-border-patrol-agents-authority-to-decide-asylum-claims-on-the-spot-sources) the Washington Examiner. A migrant illegally crossing the border would be subjected to an interview by an agent shortly after apprehension and would only be allowed to claim asylum if they pass the interview.

The changes would reduce the number of migrants who are waiting for a decision on their asylum case, alleviating an immigration court system bogged down with some 900,000 pending cases, and more quickly deport foreign nationals who do not qualify.
“If that gets rolled out and we actually start deporting people within a timely manner, you’re going to see the numbers drop exponentially,” an official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said to the Examiner.
The only drawback for the administration would be that agents would be temporarily diverted away from border enforcement duties as they undergo training. However, the plan is expected to result in an overall drop of illegal immigrants (https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/01/trump-dna-testing-migrants/) entering the interior of the country.
“Theoretically, we could end up deporting them in two weeks, rather than two to five years,” another source stated. Asylum seekers typically wait (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/02/asylum-seekers-to-be-sent-back-to-mexico/) in the U.S. for years as they wait for their case to be adjudicated.
Officials with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) believe they are within their authority to implement this plan because asylum officers are required to be immigration officials, and Border Patrol agents are considered to be immigration officials. For this reason, DHS is not seeking congressional approval.


More at: https://truepundit.com/report-border-agents-will-soon-have-authority-to-decide-asylum-claims-on-the-spot/

[Schifference]

Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.

They could mandate people wear some type of placard or symbol on their clothing and possibly incorporate that with some type of numbering system. They could possibly tattoo numbers on the people.

[Schifference]

President Donald Trump is reportedly preparing to give law enforcement officials the authority to conduct interviews with asylum seekers arriving on the U.S.-Mexico border.
Under the upcoming plan, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) officers would train Border Patrol (https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/01/border-patrol-new-mexico-migrants/) agents deployed on the southern border on how to perform “credible fear interviews,” according to sources who spoke with (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-administration-to-give-border-patrol-agents-authority-to-decide-asylum-claims-on-the-spot-sources) the Washington Examiner. A migrant illegally crossing the border would be subjected to an interview by an agent shortly after apprehension and would only be allowed to claim asylum if they pass the interview.

The changes would reduce the number of migrants who are waiting for a decision on their asylum case, alleviating an immigration court system bogged down with some 900,000 pending cases, and more quickly deport foreign nationals who do not qualify.
“If that gets rolled out and we actually start deporting people within a timely manner, you’re going to see the numbers drop exponentially,” an official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said to the Examiner.
The only drawback for the administration would be that agents would be temporarily diverted away from border enforcement duties as they undergo training. However, the plan is expected to result in an overall drop of illegal immigrants (https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/01/trump-dna-testing-migrants/) entering the interior of the country.
“Theoretically, we could end up deporting them in two weeks, rather than two to five years,” another source stated. Asylum seekers typically wait (https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/02/asylum-seekers-to-be-sent-back-to-mexico/) in the U.S. for years as they wait for their case to be adjudicated.
Officials with the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) believe they are within their authority to implement this plan because asylum officers are required to be immigration officials, and Border Patrol agents are considered to be immigration officials. For this reason, DHS is not seeking congressional approval.


More at: https://truepundit.com/report-border-agents-will-soon-have-authority-to-decide-asylum-claims-on-the-spot/

I don't like the idea of low IQ cops questioning anyone. That never ends well. They should just make record of every encounter assign a number/ticket to each person and deport them. On the ticket is a phone number they can call where they can get message updates on when their case will be heard. Kind of like a jury duty notice. Maybe people will never be heard but they won't be in the country and they will be scheduled for due process and free outside the US in the meantime.

[Swordsmyth]

I don't like the idea of low IQ cops questioning anyone. That never ends well. They should just make record of every encounter assign a number/ticket to each person and deport them. On the ticket is a phone number they can call where they can get message updates on when their case will be heard. Kind of like a jury duty notice. Maybe people will never be heard but they won't be in the country and they will be scheduled for due process and free outside the US in the meantime.
Unfortunately the current law won't allow that, this is a pretty good maneuver considering that the Demoncrats won't change the insane laws and we can't take back the House until Jan. 2021.

[Swordsmyth]

NEW: The Justice Department is reportedly considering making it easier to deport immigrants who use public benefits – Reuters
— News Breaking LIVE (@NewsBreaking) May 3, 2019 (https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1124394409921994753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[Zippyjuan]

NEW: The Justice Department is reportedly considering making it easier to deport immigrants who use public benefits – Reuters
— News Breaking LIVE (@NewsBreaking) May 3, 2019 (https://twitter.com/NewsBreaking/status/1124394409921994753?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Not illegal immigrants but legal permanent residents. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/03/doj-weighs-making-it-easier-to-deport-immigrants-on-public-benefits.html



Currently, those legal permanent residents who are declared to be a “public charge,” or primarily dependent on the government for subsistence, can be deported — but in practice, this is very rare.

The draft regulation would use a more expansive definition to include some immigrants who have used an array of public benefits, including cash welfare, food stamps, housing aid, or Medicaid.

While the plan is at an early stage, might not become official government policy, and is likely to attract lawsuits, it is one part of efforts by the Trump administration to restrict legal immigration, in addition to its efforts to reduce illegal immigration to the United States.

The full possible impact is not known, but the change in policy could affect permanent residents — also known as “green card” holders — who are legally entitled to use public benefits soon after their arrival in the United States, such as refugees.


But due to a 1948 ruling, the deportation of immigrants for using public benefits has been strictly limited to cases in which the government has demanded payment for public services, and the person has failed to pay. Immigration lawyers said they have rarely if ever heard of someone being deported for using public benefits.


According to federal policy, many permanent residents do not qualify for public benefits unless they have had a green card for five years, making it unlikely they could be targeted for deportation on the basis of “public charge” even under the draft rule.

They need to be in the country for at least five years legally to become eligible for most of those benefits. Deporting somebody for obeying the law? If you don't want them to have benefits, you need to change the law.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/welfare-benefits-for-non-citizens/


With some exceptions, non-citizens entering the United States after August 22, 1996, the date of enactment of the welfare reform legislation, are not eligible for most welfare benefits, including Temporary Assistance for Needy Families (TANF), SSI, Medicaid, and the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP), until they have been in the U.S. for at least five years. Keeping this general principle in mind, a more thorough review of the 1996 provisions reveals both their complexity and breadth.

In determining welfare eligibility for non-citizens, two broad criteria are taken into account. The most general screen is the concept of “qualified” and “not qualified” alien. Generally, qualified aliens are non-citizens who have been permitted to reside permanently in the United States. They include legal permanent residents (LPRs), refugees, asylees, Cuban/Haitian entrants, and a few other categories. Qualified immigrants may be eligible for federal and state benefit programs that aim to help families with limited income and resources. Not qualified aliens (mostly illegal and temporary immigrants), by contrast, are ineligible for all except emergency benefits?a policy that was largely in place even before the 1996 reforms.

The second factor is date of entry into the United States. Specifically, qualified immigrants who entered after August 22, 1996 are barred from SSI and food stamps until they become citizens and from TANF, Medicaid, and SCHIP for five years after entry. Qualified immigrants, who entered before August 22, 1996, have wider eligibility for these benefits, in part because states have elected to pay for the benefits and in part because federal legislation enacted since 1996 restored some benefits for those already in the United States. As a result, many immigrants who entered before 1996 are eligible for TANF, Medicaid, SCHIP, and SSI. Eligibility for food stamps is more restricted.

[Swordsmyth]

Not illegal immigrants but legal permanent residents. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/03/doj-weighs-making-it-easier-to-deport-immigrants-on-public-benefits.html

It will catch a lot of illegals too but it doesn't matter, getting rid of legal leeches is good too.




They need to be in the country for at least five years legally to become eligible for most of those benefits. Deporting somebody for obeying the law? If you don't want them to have benefits, you need to change the law.

https://www.brookings.edu/research/welfare-benefits-for-non-citizens/
The law allows them to be deported for becoming public charges, it's a risk they take.

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump’s administration has quietly reactivated a computer check that warns employers when their new employees are likely to be illegal immigrants. Democrats, however, are protesting the new push to protect American families from illegal immigrants in the nation’s job market.
The so-called “no-match” letter warns employers that their employees’ claimed Social Security Numbers are suspect — and so allows the employers to minimize their legal risks by quietly firing the employees who do not have a right to work. The program was stopped by President Barack Obama mainly because it was so effective at warning employers.
“It is a very good thing,” said Jessica Vaughan, policy director at the Center for Immigration Studies. She continued:

Our government knows the name, address, and place of employment of millions of illegal workers … These jobs should be for Americans and legal workers … the market would bring wages up to $15 an hour for more workers if we didn’t have so much illegal employment.
The policy should also identify the Social Security Numbers that have been stolen by illegals from Americans, she said. The government, she said:

knows that millions of Americans have had their identity stolen by these workers … They know the scale of Social Security Number misuse is massive — but they certainly don’t want to have to deal with the millions of irate Americans who have to resolve misuse of their SSN.
Many — but not all — employers will cooperate and fire the illegals, she predicted. “A lot of employers want to do the right thing, and they have been duped by false documents, and they want to get into compliance with the law.” However, the new policy will not deter the many employers who pay their illegal immigrants under the table, she said.


More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/04/donald-trump-revives-national-program-to-exclude-illegals-from-jobs/

[Swordsmyth]

The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) provided an additional payment of $9 million in border security funds. The payment is in addition to a previous $4 million grant awarded to the state earlier this year. DHS officials provided $9 million in grant funding to the State of Texas under the Operation Stonegarden Grant Program. Texas has now received a total of $13 million of the $30 million authorized in Operations Orders by DHS, according to a statement from the Office of the Texas Governor.
Stonegarden provides grant funding through the State of Texas for the Texas Department of Public Safety, Kickapoo Traditional Tribe, and 16 other local law enforcement agencies in eight Texas border counties, the governor’s office stated. Those counties include: Cameron, Kenedy, McMullen, Presidio, Starr, Sutton, Val Verde, and Webb Counties.


The governor’s office said the funds will be utilized for:



Upgrades to essential flight displays, global positioning systems, and overtime for DPS personnel supporting United States Border Patrol (USBP) with air patrols in each BP Sector along the Texas/Mexico border,
Body armor and overtime for Town of Laguna Vista officers participating in border patrol operations,
Specialized patrol vehicles for officers and deputies working overtime from the City of Falfurrias, City of Laredo, McMullen, Refugio, and Starr counties, as well as the Kickapoo Tribe,
Overtime and other operational costs for local agencies such as the counties listed above and the cities of Eagle Pass, Harlingen, Junction, and Town of Combes.

“Texas’ border security efforts require a variety of strategies and approaches to keep our communities safe, and these additional grants will provide much-needed resources to law enforcement agencies to maintain their robust operations,” Texas Governor Greg Abbott said in a written statement. “I am committed to working alongside the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to secure our southern border, and I thank the men and women of law enforcement for working tirelessly to keep our border communities secure.”
In April 2019, DHS officials announced (https://www.dhs.gov/news/2019/04/12/dhs-announces-funding-opportunity-fiscal-year-2019-preparedness-grants) that Operation Stonegarden would provide $90 million to states to “enhance cooperation and coordination among local, tribal, territorial, state, and federal law enforcement agencies to jointly enhance security along the United States land and water borders.”

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2019/05/04/dhs-provides-texas-9-million-in-additional-border-security-funding/

[Swordsmyth]

BREAKING: ICE has announced a new program that allows local law enforcement officers to start arresting and temporarily detaining illegal aliens on behalf of ICE, even if state and local policies prevent them from doing so – @RealSaavedra (https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
— BNL NEWS (@BreakingNLive) May 6, 2019 (https://twitter.com/BreakingNLive/status/1125494917965471744?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[enhanced_deficit]

It appears leadership is working on a multi-prong strategy and is open-minded keeping in view human rights and diversity:



MH1BGA (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527029-Trump-I-want-to-scrap-all-H1B-visas&p=6733646&viewfull=1#post6733646)

Adelson: Let’s Pass Immigration Reform (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454313-Adelson-Let%92s-Pass-Immigration-Reform&p=5570151&viewfull=1#post5570151)

https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/press/main_image/153934/post_post_condecoracion-aguila-azteca-a-jared-k-.jpg
Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto awards White House senior adviser Jared Kushner the Order of the Aztec Eagle, the highest Mexican honor awarded to foreigners.

Jared Kushner is taking over efforts to increase legal immigration
Eric Lutz
April 3, 2019
According to Politico, Kushner has been working behind the scenes on a plan to expand some forms of legal immigration in an effort to “increase the number of low- and high-skilled workers” in the country.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...er-immigration (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/stephen-miller-power-over-trump-is-about-to-be-tested-jared-kushner-immigration)

Transgender Women from LGBTQ Caravan Granted Asylum (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529745-Caravan-3&p=6792563&viewfull=1#post6792563)

Pence to offer US assistance to immigrants (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534227-Pence-to-offer-US-assistance-to-immigrants&)

[Swordsmyth]

It appears leadership is working on a multi-prong strategy and is open-minded keeping in view human rights and diversity:



MH1BGA (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527029-Trump-I-want-to-scrap-all-H1B-visas&p=6733646&viewfull=1#post6733646)

Adelson: Let’s Pass Immigration Reform (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454313-Adelson-Let%92s-Pass-Immigration-Reform&p=5570151&viewfull=1#post5570151)

https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/press/main_image/153934/post_post_condecoracion-aguila-azteca-a-jared-k-.jpg
Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto awards White House senior adviser Jared Kushner the Order of the Aztec Eagle, the highest Mexican honor awarded to foreigners.

Jared Kushner is taking over efforts to increase legal immigration
Eric Lutz
April 3, 2019
According to Politico, Kushner has been working behind the scenes on a plan to expand some forms of legal immigration in an effort to “increase the number of low- and high-skilled workers” in the country.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...er-immigration (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/04/stephen-miller-power-over-trump-is-about-to-be-tested-jared-kushner-immigration)

Transgender Women from LGBTQ Caravan Granted Asylum (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529745-Caravan-3&p=6792563&viewfull=1#post6792563)

Pence to offer US assistance to immigrants (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534227-Pence-to-offer-US-assistance-to-immigrants&)
Everything Trump has actually done has decreased immigration.

[invisible]

Obviously, that cannot be true if trump's NWO foreign policy is creating more immigrants, and then actually subsidizing them with "assistance" and "economic aid". As Ron Paul says, if you subsidize something, you get more of it.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534227-Pence-to-offer-US-assistance-to-immigrants

US Vice President Mike Pence is set to offer on Tuesday new incentives to Venezuela's military to turn against President Nicolas Maduro, Reuters reported Monday, citing a senior administration official.

In a speech to the Americas Society at the US Department of State, Pence will also warn that Washington could soon sanction 25 additional magistrates on the Venezuelan supreme court, Reuters reported, citing the official on condition of anonymity.

In addition, the US vice president will also offer assistance for refugees who have fled Venezuela and an economic aid package on a political transition, according to Reuters.

[PAF]

President Donald Trump’s administration has quietly reactivated a computer check that warns employers when their new employees are likely to be illegal immigrants.


The U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) provided an additional payment of $9 million in border security funds. The payment is in addition to a previous $4 million grant awarded to the state earlier this year.


BREAKING: ICE has announced a new program that allows local law enforcement officers to start arresting and temporarily detaining illegal aliens on behalf of ICE, even if state and local policies prevent them from doing so – @RealSaavedra
— BNL NEWS (@BreakingNLive) May 6, 2019




Don't mess with ending incentives which is cheap, effective and doesn't tamper with freedom. Enormous government and Police State tactics are best. Government will save us all.

What is best about all of this is Trump is a "Republican", so "republicans" root-toot support all of this. Had hitlery done any of this, it would have been a crime.

People in this country are stupid and deserve everything they beg for.

[ATruepatriot]

Don't mess with ending incentives which is cheap, effective and doesn't tamper with freedom. Enormous government and Police State tactics are best. Government will save us all.

What is best about all of this is Trump is a "Republican", so "republicans" root-toot support all of this. Had hitlery done any of this, it would have been a crime.

People in this country are stupid and deserve everything they beg for.

The right has been wanting to end incentives for 20 years. The left refuse to allow it in any form. The left is solely to blame for this period. Even Ron Paul would have been shut down by the left if he had tried to do this. Fact. 180 degree spin in what you say here.

[invisible]

The left isn't causing trump to offer additional new incentives, nor is the left controlling trump's NWO foreign policy that creates more immigrants. The only person responsible for those things is trump himself.

[PAF]

The right has been wanting to end incentives for 20 years. The left refuse to allow it in any form. The left is solely to blame for this period. Even Ron Paul would have been shut down by the left if he had tried to do this. Fact. 180 degree spin in what you say here.

Nope. How many times have the republicans controlled both the House and Senate under a republican president? Yet not a peep or a tweet.

It is government. It does not matter what “party” is in control, their only motive/goal is to grooowwwwww government.

[ATruepatriot]

The left isn't causing trump to offer additional new incentives

How is Trump personally offering incentives promoting ILLEGAL Immigration? 180 Spin... Legal and Illegal are not the same issue as you would like to push.


nor is the left controlling trump's NWO foreign policy that creates more immigrants.

Since the NWO has been the communist left since Cloward Piven in the mid 60s this is a 180 spin also.


The only person responsible for those things is trump himself.

How and when did the liberty movement become so disconnected from reality and truth? I remember when the focus was always on honest objective truth in everything, now it has apparently been assimilated by those who push delusional irrational ideology based on one sided spin and falsehoods.

[ATruepatriot]

Nope. How many times have the republicans controlled both the House and Senate under a republican president? Yet not a peep or a tweet.

It is government. It does not matter what “party” is in control, their only motive/goal is to grooowwwwww government.

I was talking about the Republican voters. And we keep getting screwed out of what we voted for, once there the assholes change their tune and don't do what they promised. And trust me... Conservatives are not happy about this either. But The Republican voters have been pushing for these incentives to stop since the mid 60's. But this is not Trump or the voters, this is the bipartisan uniparty establishment mafia on both sides of the aisle. Both out of greed because it helps line their pockets. And like I say... Even Ron Paul would have run into the very same issue and not been able to fulfill his promise on this concept either. As much as we would like to think so, reality still comes into play, would we have thrown Ron under the bus as a liar in this case?

[Swordsmyth]

Nope. How many times have the republicans controlled both the House and Senate under a republican president? Yet not a peep or a tweet.

It is government. It does not matter what “party” is in control, their only motive/goal is to grooowwwwww government.
The left is not confined the the Demoncrat party, RINOs abound.

[ATruepatriot]

The left is not confined the the Demoncrat party, RINOs abound.

The establishment mafia is very bipartisan.

[Swordsmyth]

The establishment mafia is very bipartisan.
Many of them even pretend to be libertarians.

[PAF]

The left is not confined the the Demoncrat party, RINOs abound.

True dat, no dispute.

But there are also "republicans" who follow fascist/leftist/anti-liberty agendas as long as politicians stick an "R" after their name.

Take Trump-humpers, for instance:

His followers will abandon the 4th Amendment (document/register people so that they become eligible), 2nd Amendment (raise age to 21 and ban bump stocks), fully support stealing other peoples property via government Eminent Domain to build a government structure and hire more government employees, and abandon Free Market principles to SUPPORT Minimum Wage jobs because they believe everybody should pay their "fair share" of taxes to the Fed and want to report companies which choose to engage in Private Contract Rights.

I know a lot of life-long registered republicans who NEVER supported any of those positions under Obama and used to scream bloody murder when he was in office, but now that Trump is president they will follow him to hell and back.

[PAF]

Many of them even pretend to be libertarians.

They are easy to spot. All you have to do is mention Private Property Rights and NAP and they start screaming Anarchist. Take you, for instance.

[Swordsmyth]

True dat, no dispute.

But there are also "republicans" who follow fascist/leftist/anti-liberty agendas as long as politicians stick an "R" after their name.

Take Trump-humpers, for instance:

His followers will abandon the 4th Amendment (document/register people so that they become eligible),
The 4thA doesn't give foreigners a right to come here without permission or to overstay their visit.



2nd Amendment (raise age to 21 and ban bump stocks),
I don't know of anybody who supports that.


fully support stealing other peoples property via government Eminent Domain to build a government structure
The wall is not my preferred solution but using Eminent Domain to build a wall on the border to stop the invasion is the best most defensible use of Eminent Domain that could be imagined and it is much better than allowing the invasion to continue and destroy liberty completely.


and hire more government employees,
Government has some legitimate functions and it needs to hire enough people to positions that perform them.


and abandon Free Market principles to SUPPORT Minimum Wage jobs because they believe everybody should pay their "fair share" of taxes to the Fed and want to report companies which choose to engage in Private Contract Rights.
I know of nobody who supports minimum wage laws and I know of nothing Trump has done to support them.


I know a lot of life-long registered republicans who NEVER supported any of those positions under Obama and used to scream bloody murder when he was in office, but now that Trump is president they will follow him to hell and back.
You can find fools who support any politician, we had our share of fools who supported Ron.

[Swordsmyth]

They are easy to spot. All you have to do is mention Private Property Rights and NAP and they start screaming Anarchist. Take you, for instance.
LOL

All you have to do is look for those who support open borders and anarchy that will ensure the loss of liberty.

[PAF]

The 4thA doesn't give foreigners a right to come here without permission or to overstay their visit.






I don't know of anybody who supports that.


He gets an easy pass.



The wall is not my preferred solution but using Eminent Domain to build a wall on the border to stop the invasion is the best most defensible use of Eminent Domain that could be imagined and it is much better than allowing the invasion to continue and destroy liberty completely.


No buts. I stand on principle and will scream End Incentives while defending Private Property til the day I croak.



Government has some legitimate functions and it needs to hire enough people to positions that perform them.


Not in my life-long experience. I have always found government to always get in the way and muck things totally up. I handle thing on my own and am very successful.



I know of nobody who supports minimum wage laws and I know of nothing Trump has done to support them.


Good intentions lead to bad consequences. By funneling folks into those entry points, mandating them to obtain documentation, threating lawsuits to businesses which employ undocumented people who do not pay their "fare share" of taxes, just what do think all of those initiatives do? Lead to liberty/freedom LOL?



You can find fools who support any politician, we had our share of fools who supported Ron.


Yep I'm certain I met you down at Tampa convention.

[ATruepatriot]

True dat, no dispute.

But there are also "republicans" who follow fascist/leftist/anti-liberty agendas as long as politicians stick an "R" after their name.

Take Trump-humpers, for instance:

His followers will abandon the 4th Amendment (document/register people so that they become eligible), 2nd Amendment (raise age to 21 and ban bump stocks), fully support stealing other peoples property via government Eminent Domain to build a government structure and hire more government employees, and abandon Free Market principles to SUPPORT Minimum Wage jobs because they believe everybody should pay their "fair share" of taxes to the Fed and want to report companies which choose to engage in Private Contract Rights.

I know a lot of life-long registered republicans who NEVER supported any of those positions under Obama and used to scream bloody murder when he was in office, but now that Trump is president they will follow him to hell and back.

May I drop into this to make an important point? You are absolutely right, there are a large number of hardline trump lovers and Ooh Rah military out there. But trust me... you are NOT going to find them here on RP forums, they HATE Ron Paul. Like myself there are those here who are just scared to death at the thought of the coming communism from the left. Trump has just bought us some valuable time to regroup. Hopefully you are wise enough to know we do not want socialism/communism. And I know you might not believe this, but I also hang in Conservative boards and the antiwar sentiment is now 9 out of 10 who are now antiwar and not any happier with what is happening than we are. As for Immigration? Legal good, illegal bad is the sentiment among conservatives. And they are indeed two different issues to be dealt with separately even though the left will tell you they are the same. They are not...

[PAF]

LOL

All you have to do is look for those who support open borders and anarchy that will ensure the loss of liberty.

So by me traveling, wasting my gas having to drive all over the place looking for an entry/exit point, stopped to show my papers, risk getting searched if they are "suspicious", or if they find the $10,000 in cash I brought with me that I saved all my life only to be confiscated - that increases my liberty?

I get it. You think germany under hitler is the way to go to maximize liberty/freedom.

LOL

[Swordsmyth]

Foreigners do need our permission to come here.


He gets an easy pass.
No he doesn't.




No buts. I stand on principle and will scream End Incentives while defending Private Property til the day I croak.
Life is full of buts and your position would ensure that liberty was smothered under a flood of communists and incentives would only increase.




Not in my life-long experience. I have always found government to always get in the way and muck things totally up. I handle thing on my own and am very successful.
You have a limited experience and have always benefited from the existence of government that has done a minimal job at performing its legitimate functions.




Good intentions lead to bad consequences. By funneling folks into those entry points, mandating them to obtain documentation, threating lawsuits to businesses which employ undocumented people who do not pay their "fare share" of taxes, just what do think all of those initiatives do? Lead to liberty/freedom LOL?

It leads to more liberty and freedom than letting an unlimited number of communists invade.




Yep I'm certain I met you down at Tampa convention.
I've never been there.

[PAF]

May I drop into this to make an important point? You are absolutely right, there are a large number of hardline trump lovers and Ooh Rah military out there. But trust me... you are NOT going to find them here on RP forums, they HATE Ron Paul. Like myself there are those here who are just scared to death at the thought of the coming communism from the left. Trump has just bought us some valuable time to regroup. Hopefully you are wise enough to know we do not want socialism/communism. And I know you might not believe this, but I also hang in Conservative boards and the antiwar sentiment is now 9 out of 10 who are now antiwar and not any happier with what is happening than we are. As for Immigration? Legal good, illegal bad is the sentiment among conservatives. And they are indeed two different issues to be dealt with separately even though the left will tell you they are the same. They are not...

"Illegal" is a term construct created by corrupt government that need to know who you are, where you are going, what your business is, and most importantly: ARE YOU PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE TO SUPPORT THE FED.

I can't help what conservatives believe. Perhaps they should look into NAP and Contract and Property Rights. That would solve most every problem. But just because they don't doesn't mean that I am going to lower my own standards or sacrifice my own liberty/freedom ;-)

[Swordsmyth]

So by me traveling, wasting my gas having to drive all over the place looking for an entry/exit point, stopped to show my papers, risk getting searched if they are "suspicious", or if they find the $10,000 in cash I brought with me that I saved all my life only to be confiscated - that increases my liberty?

I get it. You think germany under hitler is the way to go to maximize liberty/freedom.

LOL
The USSR under Stalin or China under Mao is what we will get if you open borders simpletons get your way, that will result in MUCH less liberty/freedom.

[Swordsmyth]

"Illegal" is a term construct created by corrupt government that need to know who you are, where you are going, what your business is, and most importantly: ARE YOU PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE TO SUPPORT THE FED.
Bunk, illegals are those who violate our rules and limits and invade, we have a right to limit who can come here in order to prevent being overrun by communists who will be much more interested in who you are, where you are going, what your business is, and most importantly: ARE YOU PAYING YOUR FAIR SHARE TO SUPPORT THE FED.


I can't help what conservatives believe. Perhaps they should look into NAP and Contract and Property Rights. That would solve most every problem. But just because they don't doesn't mean that I am going to lower my own standards or sacrifice my own liberty/freedom ;-)
Ignoring reality is not upholding standards nor will it preserve your freedom/liberty.

[PAF]

Foreigners do need our permission to come here.




No, they need YOUR permission.

I do not want to know about them, I do not want to hear about them, I do not want to pay for them. If they open a business, or want to exchange work for monetary based upon agreed private contract, I am open to that. I certainly will not report them or myself for working under the table for jobs that Section 8 "Americans" do not want. I certainly will not report them for not contributing tax-theft money to expand the Fed.

Your way... sorry I do not support statists/socialists ;-)

[ATruepatriot]

No, they need YOUR permission.

I do not want to know about them, I do not want to hear about them, I do not want to pay for them. If they open a business, or want to exchange work for monetary based upon agreed private contract, I am open to that. I certainly will not report them or myself for working under the table for jobs that Section 8 "Americans" do not want. I certainly will not report them for not contributing tax-theft money to expand the Fed.

Your way... sorry I do not support statists/socialists ;-)

If you think you are not already paying for them indirectly think again.

[PAF]

The USSR under Stalin or China under Mao is what we will get if you open borders simpletons get your way, that will result in MUCH less liberty/freedom.

No. Building walls to funnel them in, promising economic packages to those south of Mexico, keeping the spigot open full - all while hiring MORE government goons DHS, ICE, etc. - that is what will result in MUCH less liberty/freedom.

Shut the spigot and see how many will travel 2,000 miles. That is the only solution period.

[Swordsmyth]

No, they need YOUR permission.
OUR permission, as in Americans.


I do not want to know about them, I do not want to hear about them, I do not want to pay for them. If they open a business, or want to exchange work for monetary based upon agreed private contract, I am open to that. I certainly will not report them or myself for working under the table for jobs that Section 8 "Americans" do not want. I certainly will not report them for not contributing tax-theft money to expand the Fed.
Your willful ignorance will not protect you from the communism they will impose.
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. L8n_FMMlxNb90XHuzP4WYgHaHa%26pid%3DApi&f=1





Your way... sorry I do not support statists/socialists ;-)
You support the communist invaders.

[PAF]

If you think you are not already paying for them indirectly think again.

Oh, I know I am paying for them, have been most of my life. I also pay "legal" multi-generational Section 8 Americans a monthly check, more if they are able to hook up with another bum just to pop out another. But at least now my travel isn't overly restricted and don't have Bio-ID YET.

[ATruepatriot]

No. Building walls to funnel them in, promising economic packages to those south of Mexico, keeping the spigot open full - all while hiring MORE government goons DHS, ICE, etc. - that is what will result in MUCH less liberty/freedom.

Shut the spigot and see how many will travel 2,000 miles. That is the only solution period.

I agree, shutting off the incentives IS the cure. But in reality this is NEVER going to happen. Not until there is a total violent reset and in which case we will be in the same shape they are in at that point. The world you are wanting is never going to happen, it' a fantasy pipedream. In the meantime...

[Swordsmyth]

No. Building walls to funnel them in, promising economic packages to those south of Mexico, keeping the spigot open full - all while hiring MORE government goons DHS, ICE, etc. - that is what will result in MUCH less liberty/freedom.
That isn't what is happening.


Shut the spigot and see how many will travel 2,000 miles. That is the only solution period.
Too many will come anyway because our economy is better than their communism and it would be even better if we cut off welfare.
We also have more support for securing the border than we have for cutting off welfare.
And Trump is doing his best to reduce welfare for immigrants and natives.

[ATruepatriot]

Oh, I know I am paying for them, have been most of my life. I also pay "legal" multi-generational Section 8 Americans a monthly check, more if they are able to hook up with another bum just to pop out another. But at least now my travel isn't overly restricted and don't have Bio-ID YET.

If we get socialism you WILL for sure. And even worse...

[PAF]

That isn't what is happening.


Too many will come anyway because our economy is better than their communism and it would be even better if we cut off welfare.
We also have more support for securing the border than we have for cutting off welfare.
And Trump is doing his best to reduce welfare for immigrants and natives.


This is exactly what is happening, which is why after the lowest immigration numbers in decades have SKY-ROCKETED under trump:


6414

[ATruepatriot]

And Trump is doing his best to reduce welfare for immigrants and natives.

NATIVES? You mean the FIRST INVADERS?

[Swordsmyth]

This is exactly what is happening, which is why after the lowest immigration numbers in decades have SKY-ROCKETED under trump:


6414
No it isn't what is happening and the reason the invasion has accelerated is because the globalists panicked when Trump won and put the peddle to the metal advertising for them to come here and organizing them to come here while blocking as many of Trump's attempts to secure the border as possible.

[Swordsmyth]

NATIVES? You mean the FIRST INVADERS?
LOL

[PAF]

No it isn't what is happening and the reason the invasion has accelerated is because the globalists panicked when Trump won and put the peddle to the metal advertising for them to come here and organizing them to come here while blocking as many of Trump's attempts to secure the border as possible.

LOL

How soon folks forget. Not only was/is he a Lib, he's a NY Lib:

- As president, Trump declared "emergency" spending bill containing:

Page 188
8 (h) REFUGEE ASSISTANCE IN NORTH AFRICA.-Not
9 later than 45 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary
10 of State, after consultation with the United Nations
11 High Commissioner for Refugees and the Executive Direc-
12 tor of the World Food Programme, shall submit a report
13 to the Committees on Appropriations describing steps
14 taken to strengthen monitoring of the delivery of humani-
15 tarian assistance provided for refugees in North Africa,
16 including any steps taken to ensure that all vulnerable ref-
17 ugees are receiving such assistance.

Page 255
12 (k) TRANSFER OF FUNDS.-Of the funds appro-
13 priated by this Act under the heading "Economic Support
14 Fund", $25,000,000 shall be transferred to, and merged
15 with, funds appropriated under the heading "International
16 Organizations and Programs", of which $23,000,000 shall
17 be for a contribution to support the United Nations resi-
18 dent coordinator system and $2,000,000 shall be for a
19 contribution to the Montreal Protocol Multilateral Fund.

Page 314
6 UNITED NATIONS POPULATION FUND
7 SEC. 7072. (a) CONTRIBUTION.-Of the funds made
8 available under the heading "International Organizations
9 and Programs" in this Act for fiscal year 2019,
10 $32,500,000 shall be made available for the United Na-
11 tions Population Fund (UNFP A).
12 (b) AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.-Funds appropriated
13 by this Act for UNFPA, that are not made available for
14 UNFP A because of the operation of any provision of law,
15 shall be transferred to the "Global Health Programs" ac-
16 count and shall be made available for family planning, ma-
17 ternal, and reproductive health activities, subject to the
18 regular notification procedures of the Committees on Ap-
19 propriations.

- As president, Donald Trump signed USMCA (NAFTA replacement), an anti-Free trade agreement, containing language such as Government Tribunals, Sustainable Development and International Labour Organization which is a United Nations Agency.

- As president, Trump: “Just signed 702 Bill to reauthorize foreign intelligence collection,” Trump wrote on Twitter, referring to legislation passed by the U.S. Congress that extends Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The law renews for six years and with minimal changes the National Security Agency (NSA) program.

- President Trump remained completely silent when Amazon announced that it was providing free Facial Recognition Technology to the city of Orlando – technology that keeps the city’s residents under 24/7 constant surveillance - violating the very 4th and 5th Amendments he swore to protect.

- As president, Donald Trump promised to complete the Biometric Identification system that will track every person by land, sea and air, which will be recorded permanently in a national government database. The United Nations goal is to implement Biometric Identification to every man, woman and child by 2030.

- During Trumps presidency, TSA announced Biometric Identification will be implemented not only for international flights, but now a Domestic Blueprint across all 50 states.

- As president, on September 20, 2018, President Donald Trump told attendees at a chiefs of police convention that he has instructed the Justice Department to work toward reinstating “Stop and Frisk”, violating Constitutional protections.

- As president, Trump authorized and implemented on October 03, 2018 a “Presidential Alert” via FEMA to all capable cell phones in the United States, according to Cyber Expert John McAfee, accessing the E911 chip in your phones – can give full access to location, microphone, camera and every function of a phone.

- As president, Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, who is ANTI 1st 4th and 5th Amenedments, for the U.S. Supreme Court. Kavinaugh was instrumental in passing the Patriot Act among other anti BoR rulings.

- As president, Trump appointed John Bolton as National Security Advisor

- As president, Trump threatened to veto, but instead and without hesitation, signed a $1.3 Trillion 2018 Omnibus providing:

- $500 Million to Planned Parenthood.
- $1.371 Billion for Contributions to International Organizations
- $51m to promote International Family Planning
- $7m promoting International Conservation
- $10m for UN Environmental Programs
- Internal Revenue Service: Despite the administration’s attempts to slash its budget, the
Omni-Bus grants $11.431 Billion to the nation’s tax collectors, a $196 million year-to-year
increase and $456 million more than Trump requested.

- Arts: Federal funding for the arts goes up, despite GOP attempts to slash it. The National
Endowments for the Arts and Humanities will see funding climb to $152.8 million each, a $3
million increase over the last fiscal year. The National Gallery of Art gets $165.9 million, a $1.04
million jump in funding. The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts will receive $40.5
million, which is $4 million more than the last fiscal year.
- $12M for Scholarships for Lebanon
- $20M for Middle East Partnership Initiative Scholarship Program
- $12M in military funding for Vietnam
- $15M in Developmental assistance to China
- $10M for Women LEOs in Afghanistan

- Sen. Dianne Feinstein in 2017 introduced legislation to ban the sale and possession of bump-stocks. Her bill went nowhere. As president, Trump stated: Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS (March 23, 2018)

- As president, Trump publicly backed raising the minimum age to purchase semi-automatic weapons to 21

- Trump Just Went Full Sanders — Calls for Increasing Minimum Wage and Higher Taxes

- Real estate magnate Donald Trump gave at least $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation while his daughter Ivanka Trump donated between $5,001 and $10,000, the Hill reported. Trump also donated to Hillary Clinton’s New York Senate campaign.

- Trump has given $541,650 to federal Democratic candidates and fundraising committees going back to 1990, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics. He's handed out money to Democratic statewide candidates as well. In 2009, for instance, Trump cut a $25,000 check to former Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe for his unsuccessful 2009 Virginia gubernatorial bid. But as Republicans and Tea Party activists nationwide were working to take back the House and Senate in 2010, Trump was also handing out checks to top Democratic incumbents: $4,800 to Reid, $2,000 to Florida Sen. Bill Nelson and more than $8,000 total to New York's two senators, Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand.

- Over the last two decades, Trump gave money to a number of high-profile Democrats and liberal icons, including Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle and Joe Biden. The biggest recipient of Trump's largesse? The scandal-plagued Rangel, who has taken $24,750 from Trump since the 1990 election cycle.

- Donald Trump predicted Wednesday night that Hillary Clinton will take one more shot at winning the White House in 2016, and declined to rule out the possibility of throwing his support behind the former presidential candidate. “Hillary Clinton, I think, is a terrific woman,” Trump said in an interview with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News. “I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York, she lives in New York, and I’ve known her and her husband for years and I really like them both a lot.”

Praising the secretary of state for being a hard worker and for having done a “good job” since joining the Obama administration, Trump said he expects Clinton to run for office again.
“I think assuming she is healthy, which I hope she will be, I think she runs after the next four years, I would imagine,” he said.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477303-Donald-Trump-On-The-Record

[Swordsmyth]

LOL

How soon folks forget. Not only was/is he a Lib, he's a NY Lib:

- As president, Trump declared "emergency" spending bill containing:

Page 188
8 (h) REFUGEE ASSISTANCE IN NORTH AFRICA.-Not
9 later than 45 days after enactment of this Act, the Secretary
10 of State, after consultation with the United Nations
11 High Commissioner for Refugees and the Executive Direc-
12 tor of the World Food Programme, shall submit a report
13 to the Committees on Appropriations describing steps
14 taken to strengthen monitoring of the delivery of humani-
15 tarian assistance provided for refugees in North Africa,
16 including any steps taken to ensure that all vulnerable ref-
17 ugees are receiving such assistance.

Page 255
12 (k) TRANSFER OF FUNDS.-Of the funds appro-
13 priated by this Act under the heading "Economic Support
14 Fund", $25,000,000 shall be transferred to, and merged
15 with, funds appropriated under the heading "International
16 Organizations and Programs", of which $23,000,000 shall
17 be for a contribution to support the United Nations resi-
18 dent coordinator system and $2,000,000 shall be for a
19 contribution to the Montreal Protocol Multilateral Fund.

Page 314
6 UNITED NATIONS POPULATION FUND
7 SEC. 7072. (a) CONTRIBUTION.-Of the funds made
8 available under the heading "International Organizations
9 and Programs" in this Act for fiscal year 2019,
10 $32,500,000 shall be made available for the United Na-
11 tions Population Fund (UNFP A).
12 (b) AVAILABILITY OF FUNDS.-Funds appropriated
13 by this Act for UNFPA, that are not made available for
14 UNFP A because of the operation of any provision of law,
15 shall be transferred to the "Global Health Programs" ac-
16 count and shall be made available for family planning, ma-
17 ternal, and reproductive health activities, subject to the
18 regular notification procedures of the Committees on Ap-
19 propriations.

- As president, Donald Trump signed USMCA (NAFTA replacement), an anti-Free trade agreement, containing language such as Government Tribunals, Sustainable Development and International Labour Organization which is a United Nations Agency.

- As president, Trump: “Just signed 702 Bill to reauthorize foreign intelligence collection,” Trump wrote on Twitter, referring to legislation passed by the U.S. Congress that extends Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). The law renews for six years and with minimal changes the National Security Agency (NSA) program.

- President Trump remained completely silent when Amazon announced that it was providing free Facial Recognition Technology to the city of Orlando – technology that keeps the city’s residents under 24/7 constant surveillance - violating the very 4th and 5th Amendments he swore to protect.

- As president, Donald Trump promised to complete the Biometric Identification system that will track every person by land, sea and air, which will be recorded permanently in a national government database. The United Nations goal is to implement Biometric Identification to every man, woman and child by 2030.

- During Trumps presidency, TSA announced Biometric Identification will be implemented not only for international flights, but now a Domestic Blueprint across all 50 states.

- As president, on September 20, 2018, President Donald Trump told attendees at a chiefs of police convention that he has instructed the Justice Department to work toward reinstating “Stop and Frisk”, violating Constitutional protections.

- As president, Trump authorized and implemented on October 03, 2018 a “Presidential Alert” via FEMA to all capable cell phones in the United States, according to Cyber Expert John McAfee, accessing the E911 chip in your phones – can give full access to location, microphone, camera and every function of a phone.

- As president, Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, who is ANTI 1st 4th and 5th Amenedments, for the U.S. Supreme Court. Kavinaugh was instrumental in passing the Patriot Act among other anti BoR rulings.

- As president, Trump appointed John Bolton as National Security Advisor

- As president, Trump threatened to veto, but instead and without hesitation, signed a $1.3 Trillion 2018 Omnibus providing:

- $500 Million to Planned Parenthood.
- $1.371 Billion for Contributions to International Organizations
- $51m to promote International Family Planning
- $7m promoting International Conservation
- $10m for UN Environmental Programs
- Internal Revenue Service: Despite the administration’s attempts to slash its budget, the
Omni-Bus grants $11.431 Billion to the nation’s tax collectors, a $196 million year-to-year
increase and $456 million more than Trump requested.

- Arts: Federal funding for the arts goes up, despite GOP attempts to slash it. The National
Endowments for the Arts and Humanities will see funding climb to $152.8 million each, a $3
million increase over the last fiscal year. The National Gallery of Art gets $165.9 million, a $1.04
million jump in funding. The John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts will receive $40.5
million, which is $4 million more than the last fiscal year.
- $12M for Scholarships for Lebanon
- $20M for Middle East Partnership Initiative Scholarship Program
- $12M in military funding for Vietnam
- $15M in Developmental assistance to China
- $10M for Women LEOs in Afghanistan

- Sen. Dianne Feinstein in 2017 introduced legislation to ban the sale and possession of bump-stocks. Her bill went nowhere. As president, Trump stated: Obama Administration legalized bump stocks. BAD IDEA. As I promised, today the Department of Justice will issue the rule banning BUMP STOCKS (March 23, 2018)

- As president, Trump publicly backed raising the minimum age to purchase semi-automatic weapons to 21

- Trump Just Went Full Sanders — Calls for Increasing Minimum Wage and Higher Taxes - http://thefreethoughtproject.com/tru...-higher-taxes/

- Real estate magnate Donald Trump gave at least $100,000 to the Clinton Foundation while his daughter Ivanka Trump donated between $5,001 and $10,000, the Hill reported. Trump also donated to Hillary Clinton’s New York Senate campaign - http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/abc-news-...IlJIQrKuGvt.99

- Trump has given $541,650 to federal Democratic candidates and fundraising committees going back to 1990, according to data from the Center for Responsive Politics. He's handed out money to Democratic statewide candidates as well. In 2009, for instance, Trump cut a $25,000 check to former Democratic National Committee chairman Terry McAuliffe for his unsuccessful 2009 Virginia gubernatorial bid. But as Republicans and Tea Party activists nationwide were working to take back the House and Senate in 2010, Trump was also handing out checks to top Democratic incumbents: $4,800 to Reid, $2,000 to Florida Sen. Bill Nelson and more than $8,000 total to New York's two senators, Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand.

- Over the last two decades, Trump gave money to a number of high-profile Democrats and liberal icons, including Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, Tom Daschle and Joe Biden. The biggest recipient of Trump's largesse? The scandal-plagued Rangel, who has taken $24,750 from Trump since the 1990 election cycle.

- Donald Trump predicted Wednesday night that Hillary Clinton will take one more shot at winning the White House in 2016, and declined to rule out the possibility of throwing his support behind the former presidential candidate. “Hillary Clinton, I think, is a terrific woman,” Trump said in an interview with Greta Van Susteren on Fox News. “I am biased because I have known her for years. I live in New York, she lives in New York, and I’ve known her and her husband for years and I really like them both a lot.”

Praising the secretary of state for being a hard worker and for having done a “good job” since joining the Obama administration, Trump said he expects Clinton to run for office again.
“I think assuming she is healthy, which I hope she will be, I think she runs after the next four years, I would imagine,” he said.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?477303-Donald-Trump-On-The-Record

That's a nice one-sided list, nobody is claiming Trump is perfect.

[Southron]

No it isn't what is happening and the reason the invasion has accelerated is because the globalists panicked when Trump won and put the peddle to the metal advertising for them to come here and organizing them to come here while blocking as many of Trump's attempts to secure the border as possible.

The irony is that pushing mass immigration will destabilise and undermine much of the globalist agenda in time. “Brexit”, Trump and the rise of right wing populists movements in Europe to a large degree were caused by backlashes against immigration policies of the last several decades.

[PAF]

That's a nice one-sided list, nobody is claiming Trump is perfect.

LOL - with a list like that - On The Record - no, I would say not - LOL

But it does show a very heavy pattern that he is NWO. But because folks actually voted for him, and he has a "R" after his name, folks like to turn the other cheek and go immediately into denial.

[PAF]

The irony is that pushing mass immigration will destabilise and undermine much of the globalist agenda in time. “Brexit”, Trump and the rise of right wing populists movements in Europe to a large degree were caused by backlashes against immigration policies of the last several decades.

Immigration has nothing to do with it. That is all government BS propaganda. People have been migrating since the dawn of time.

The problem that government will not address, and what folks won't hold them accountable for is: Welfare/Free Handouts. THAT is what will be the demise of freedom/liberty - not "immigration".

[Swordsmyth]

The irony is that pushing mass immigration will destabilise and undermine much of the globalist agenda in time. “Brexit”, Trump and the rise of right wing populists movements in Europe to a large degree were caused by backlashes against immigration policies of the last several decades.
They want the destabilization.
"Ordo ab Chao"
"Never let a good crisis go to waste"
"In confusion there is profit"
We might have a chance to improve things but they will have an opportunity rebuild society to suit them.

[Swordsmyth]

LOL - with a list like that - On The Record - no, I would say not - LOL

But it does show a very heavy pattern that he is NWO. But because folks actually voted for him, and he has a "R" after his name, folks like to turn the other cheek and go immediately into denial.
Things are not so clear when you include all the anti-NWO things he has done, perfection is not available but I will take the least of all possible goods over accelerating evil.

[Swordsmyth]

Immigration has nothing to do with it. That is all government BS propaganda. People have been migrating since the dawn of time.
And it has always caused tyranny and bloodshed when it happens excessively.


The problem that government will not address, and what folks won't hold them accountable for is: Welfare/Free Handouts. THAT is what will be the demise of freedom/liberty - not "immigration".
Immigration is used to protect and increase the handouts.

[ATruepatriot]

perfection is not available

THIS IS THE REALITY NOT BEING UNDERSTOOD!!! NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN EVER! TO THINK SO IS JUST FOOLING YOURSELF WITH IGNORANCE PERIOD.

[Swordsmyth]

A directive from the White House is reportedly ordering asylum screeners to be more skeptical and confrontational with applicants, marking the administration’s latest attempt to weed out fraud.
Asylum officers are to more aggressively pursue inconsistencies they see from applicants who claim they are facing persecution in their home countries, according to emails and documents (https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/us-asylum-screeners-to-take-more-confrontational-approach-as-trump-aims-to-turn-more-migrants-away-at-the-border/2019/05/07/3b15e076-70de-11e9-9eb4-0828f5389013_story.html?utm_term=.d3614424906d) obtained by The Washington Post. Officers will also be required to provide comprehensive justifications prior to determining an applicant has a legitimate fear of harm if deported from the U.S.

Additionally, officers are to focus on any discrepancies between what a migrant might have told an arresting Border Patrol officer and what the migrant said during an asylum application interview.
“Officers conducting credible fear interviews should also be addressing any more detailed inconsistencies between the applicant’s testimony during the credible fear interview and other testimony in sworn statement,” read a staff email from John Lafferty, the chief of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services’ (USCIS) asylum division, obtained by The Washington Post.
The new directive follows numerous other changes the Trump administration made to clamp down on immigration fraud at the U.S.-Mexico border.

More at: https://truepundit.com/report-trump-administration-orders-asylum-officers-to-get-tougher-with-applicants/

[PAF]

And it has always caused tyranny and bloodshed when it happens excessively.


Immigration is used to protect and increase the handouts.

You are wrong. Hand outs would still be given by this corrupt government even if all immigration stopped. Ask the chick down at Section 8 how much more she’d get for getting knocked up for the 5th time. Transfer of wealth has no race, religion or borders. It is corrupt politicians that talk a good game but do the opposite once they are elected, and people like you give passes to them when they throw a little bone here and there.

[Swordsmyth]

You are wrong. Hand outs would still be given by this corrupt government even if all immigration stopped. Ask the chick down at Section 8 how much more she’d get for getting knocked up for the 5th time. Transfer of wealth has no race, religion or borders. It is corrupt politicians that talk a good game but do the opposite once they are elected, and people like you give passes to them when they throw a little bone here and there.
We have a chance to end the welfare if we work at teaching Americans but that chance disappears completely if millions of communists are allowed to invade faster than we could possibly educate the voters.

People like you would make liberty go extinct.

[Brian4Liberty]

I agree, shutting off the incentives IS the cure. But in reality this is NEVER going to happen. Not until there is a total violent reset and in which case we will be in the same shape they are in at that point. The world you are wanting is never going to happen, it' a fantasy pipedream. In the meantime...


No. Building walls to funnel them in, promising economic packages to those south of Mexico, keeping the spigot open full - all while hiring MORE government goons DHS, ICE, etc. - that is what will result in MUCH less liberty/freedom.

Shut the spigot and see how many will travel 2,000 miles. That is the only solution period.

Agree. And with unemployment reportedly being so low right now, it’s the perfect time to start turning down that spigot.

But that is not the direction we are headed. Instead, the majority want to provide even more incentives. Free healthcare. Free college education. Universal basic income.

[Swordsmyth]

Agree. And with unemployment reportedly being so low right now, it’s the perfect time to start turning down that spigot.

But that is not the direction we are headed. Instead, the majority want to provide even more incentives. Free healthcare. Free college education. Universal basic income.

Trump is doing what he can:

Infuriating Democrats, Trump Plans To Redefine Poverty, Cutting Americans From Welfare (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534256-Infuriating-Democrats-Trump-Plans-To-Redefine-Poverty-Cutting-Americans-From-Welfare)
But our economy will always be the biggest incentive and that will require some active border enforcement.

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump is doing what he can:

Infuriating Democrats, Trump Plans To Redefine Poverty, Cutting Americans From Welfare (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534256-Infuriating-Democrats-Trump-Plans-To-Redefine-Poverty-Cutting-Americans-From-Welfare)
But our economy will always be the biggest incentive and that will require some active border enforcement.

Can be both. But more important than border control is enforcement of existing laws. A non-citizen with no visa or work permit can provide a made up SSN to an employer, and it is never checked by anyone.

And everyone ignores the other huge negative of the “free stuff” incentives, and that’s the rampant fraud involved there too, by both citizens and non-citizens.

Border enforcement becomes more of an issue with our current situation, with thousands of people rushing the border.

[Swordsmyth]

Can be both. But more important than border control is enforcement of existing laws. A non-citizen with no visa or work permit can provide a made up SSN to an employer, and it is never checked by anyone.
Trump just did something about that:


President Donald Trump’s administration has quietly reactivated a computer check that warns employers when their new employees are likely to be illegal immigrants.

Democrats, however, are protesting the new push to protect American families from illegal immigrants in the nation’s job market.
The so-called “no-match” letter warns employers that their employees’ claimed Social Security Numbers are suspect — and so allows the employers to minimize their legal risks by quietly firing the employees who do not have a right to work. The program was stopped by President Barack Obama mainly because it was so effective at warning employers.
“It is a very good thing,” said Jessica Vaughan, policy director at the Center for Immigration Studies. She continued:
Our government knows the name, address, and place of employment of millions of illegal workers … These jobs should be for Americans and legal workers … the market would bring wages up to $15 an hour for more workers if we didn’t have so much illegal employment.

The policy should also identify the Social Security Numbers that have been stolen by illegals from Americans, she said. The government, she said:
knows that millions of Americans have had their identity stolen by these workers … They know the scale of Social Security Number misuse is massive — but they certainly don’t want to have to deal with the millions of irate Americans who have to resolve misuse of their SSN.

Many — but not all — employers will cooperate and fire the illegals, she predicted. “A lot of employers want to do the right thing, and they have been duped by false documents, and they want to get into compliance with the law.” However, the new policy will not deter the many employers who pay their illegal immigrants under the table, she said.


More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/04/donald-trump-revives-national-program-to-exclude-illegals-from-jobs/

[ATruepatriot]

Agree. And with unemployment reportedly being so low right now, it’s the perfect time to start turning down that spigot.

But that is not the direction we are headed. Instead, the majority want to provide even more incentives. Free healthcare. Free college education. Universal basic income.

And Sanctuary...

[Schifference]

I don't remember for sure but I owned a company during the 1990's until 2004. I think we had to fill out a form I9? with every new hire.

[ATruepatriot]

I don't remember for sure but I owned a company during the 1990's until 2004. I think we had to fill out a form I9? with every new hire.

Yes an I9 and a W4. The W4 is where the argument that immigrants help pay taxes falls apart. All they have to do is claim exempt on the W4 and no taxes are taken out. Then because they didn't earn enough to even be required to file they owe no taxes. But they file anyways and get back a check for tax credits. So not only did they not pay taxes they get a credit return check they didn't earn. We pay them to not pay any taxes.

[Schifference]

Yes an I9 and a W4. The W4 is where the argument that immigrants help pay taxes falls apart. All they have to do is claim exempt on the W4 and no taxes are taken out. Then because they didn't earn enough to even be required to file they owe no taxes. But they file anyways and get back a check for tax credits. So not only did they not pay taxes they get a credit return check they didn't earn. We pay them to not pay any taxes.

Okay but my point is as an employer we had to verify the person was legal to work. There was a fine to the employer. We could not just hire illegal immigrants.

[ATruepatriot]

Okay but my point is as an employer we had to verify the person was legal to work. There was a fine to the employer. We could not just hire illegal immigrants.

Yep, absolutely. And legally it is still in effect as I understand it. So it is apparently not being enforced or only those who have a stolen SS number are getting hired above the table, and most are being hired under the table. Great for our national debt right?

[PAF]

Yep, absolutely. And legally it is still in effect as I understand it. So it is apparently not being enforced or only those who have a stolen SS number are getting hired above the table, and most are being hired under the table. Great for our national debt right?

SCREW the national debt. Employers should be able to hire whoever they want for whatever wage contractually negotiated.

SS numbers should not be used for anything other than getting back money that was stolen from us. Once that money is given back, eliminate SS and invest voluntarily and privately.

National debt... created by lobbyists and corrupt politicians who line their own pockets... Ron is right, default on the loans and start all over.

I thought this was a liberty site. And here some are talking about how wrong it is to hire under the table and people not paying their “fair share” to help pay corrupt politicians and lobbyist debt for them.

[timosman]

Employers should be able to hire whoever they want for whatever wage contractually negotiated.

Yes, of course. Fucking millions of people is not a big deal if the chosen few can make a bunch of shekels. :tears:

[ATruepatriot]

SCREW the national debt. Employers should be able to hire whoever they want for whatever wage contractually negotiated.

SS numbers should not be used for anything other than getting back money that was stolen from us. Once that money is given back, eliminate SS and invest voluntarily and privately.

National debt... created by lobbyists and corrupt politicians who line their own pockets... Ron is right, default on the loans and start all over.

I thought this was a liberty site. And here some are talking about how wrong it is to hire under the table and people not paying their “fair share” to help pay corrupt politicians and lobbyist debt for them.

You don't understand, a debt is a debt and it WILL have to be paid at some point, it just can't be ignored, this has never been allowed in history. The global banksters are never going to allow it, and THEY are who recognize no boundaries or national sovereignty. We will never be a free nation until that debt is paid. And it will be our grandchildren and great grandchildren who will have to pay it. They own us... They are who truly run every government in the world using debt as a leash. These global finance institutions are the true PTB and they are powerful beyond belief. They just eliminate anyone and everyone who stands in their way. The illuminate is real, and these families control the world using debt and hegelian dialect to control and profit. And they blatantly do it in front of our faces everyday. To understand how powerful they truly are all one has to do is read a Bilderberg meeting attendance roster, these are the representatives for these global powers. These are the true NWO much bigger than even our own government and President. They are the shadow government Ron Paul spoke of.

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump just did something about that:

President Donald Trump’s administration has quietly reactivated a computer check that warns employers when their new employees are likely to be illegal immigrants.

Democrats, however, are protesting the new push to protect American families from illegal immigrants in the nation’s job market.
The so-called “no-match” letter warns employers that their employees’ claimed Social Security Numbers are suspect

And even then, note that it is just a “warning”, sent by snail mail.

Edit: and does “no match” simply mean that the SSN was never issued before in the past?

[Brian4Liberty]

I don't remember for sure but I owned a company during the 1990's until 2004. I think we had to fill out a form I9? with every new hire.


Okay but my point is as an employer we had to verify the person was legal to work. There was a fine to the employer. We could not just hire illegal immigrants.


Yep, absolutely. And legally it is still in effect as I understand it. So it is apparently not being enforced or only those who have a stolen SS number are getting hired above the table, and most are being hired under the table. Great for our national debt right?

You are required to have a form I9 for every employee. That is the verification. You store it where you want. It is not processed or checked. Now there is a provision for an inspection, for which you will get at least 3 days written notice that it is going to occur, and you need to bring in your I9s. That rarely, if ever occurs.

When might a fake be determined? When payroll is trying to pay two different employees with the exact same SSN. Government doesn’t care, it is the payroll people who don’t like duplicate SSNs in their system.



Retain and Store Form I-9
Employers must have a Form I-9,Employment Eligibility Verification, for every person on their payroll who is required to complete Form I-9. All of these forms must be retained for a certain period of time.

The following webpages will instruct you on how long to keep Forms I-9, how to store them and what to do if the government asks to inspect your forms.

Retaining Form I-9

Storing Form I-9

Inspection
...
https://www.uscis.gov/i-9-central/retain-and-store-form-i-9

[Brian4Liberty]

...
Employers should be able to hire whoever they want for whatever wage contractually negotiated.
...

From a libertarian philosophical point of view, people should be able to drive as fast as they want, with a beer in their hand and a cold 6 pack within reach, as long as they do not cause an accident. But for some reason, that point is not argued quite so adamantly anywhere.

[ATruepatriot]

You are required to have a form I9 for every employee. That is the verification. You store it where you want. It is not processed or checked. Now there is a provision for an inspection, for which you will get at least 3 days written notice that it is going to occur, and you need to bring in your I9s. That rarely, if ever occurs.

When might a fake be determined? When payroll is trying to pay two different employees with the exact same SSN. Government doesn’t care, it is the payroll people who don’t like duplicate SSNs in their system.

Thank you... And believe it or not, a couple times I have actually seen duplicate SS# benefit the real citizen and true holder of that SS# because his SS account is receiving double payments into it from two different sources.

[Danke]

You are required to have a form I9 for every employee. That is the verification. You store it where you want. It is not processed or checked. Now there is a provision for an inspection, for which you will get at least 3 days written notice that it is going to occur, and you need to bring in your I9s. That rarely, if ever occurs.

When might a fake be determined? When payroll is trying to pay two different employees with the exact same SSN. Government doesn’t care, it is the payroll people who don’t like duplicate SSNs in their system.

One doesn't need to be an "employee". Can file a 1099 if you pay someone over $600, but you can leave the SSN blank if they don't give you one.

[Brian4Liberty]

Thank you... And believe it or not, a couple times I have actually seen duplicate SS# benefit the real citizen and true holder of that SS# because his SS account is receiving double payments into it from two different sources.

And transcription errors can occur too. Someone writes down or types in the wrong number, and it doesn’t get discovered for a long time. Sometimes years, sometimes never. Government doesn’t mind collecting money from two people simultaneously under the same SSN.

[ATruepatriot]

One doesn't need to be an "employee". Can file a 1099 if you pay someone over $600, but you can leave the SSN blank if they don't give you one.

Pretty sure it can't be used as a write off unless it has a SS or TIN on it though? Well if you are audited of course.

[Brian4Liberty]

One doesn't need to be an "employee". Can file a 1099 if you pay someone over $600, but you can leave the SSN blank if they don't give you one.

Another work around.

[ATruepatriot]

And transcription errors can occur too. Someone writes down or types in the wrong number, and it doesn’t get discovered for a long time. Sometimes years, sometimes never. Government doesn’t mind collecting money from two people simultaneously under the same SSN.

If course they don't, not their problem.

[Swordsmyth]

Edit: and does “no match” simply mean that the SSN was never issued before in the past?
I think it means it doesn't match the name it is being used with.

[Swordsmyth]

Employers should be able to hire whoever they want for whatever wage contractually negotiated.
But they should only have people available who are here legally.

You advocate for getting money back before ending SS, I advocate for getting rid of illegals and securing the border while it is still around too.


If an unlimited number of foreigners (especially communists) are allowed to come here liberty will be snuffed out forever and employers who knowingly hire illegals are collaborating with its destruction.

[PAF]

But they should only have people available who are here legally.

You advocate for getting money back before ending SS, I advocate for getting rid of illegals and securing the border while it is still around too.

If an unlimited number of foreigners (especially communists) are allowed to come here liberty will be snuffed out forever and employers who knowingly hire illegals are collaborating with its destruction.

Meantime, you support snuffing out private contract rights, private property rights, and endorse mandated minimum wage, reporting companies who hire “undocumented” workers, thus in turn supplying more frn’s to the FedGov by way of more folks paying Fed taxes. Got it.

I can see why you are so gung-ho about eliminating “illegals”.

[Swordsmyth]

Meantime, you support snuffing out private contract rights, private property rights, and endorse mandated minimum wage, reporting companies who hire “undocumented” workers, thus in turn supplying more frn’s to the FedGov by way of more folks paying Fed taxes. Got it.

I can see why you are so gung-ho about eliminating “illegals”.
I do not support those things except reporting those who knowingly hire invaders.

[Swordsmyth]

Democrats in Congress must vote to close the terrible loopholes at the Southern Border. If not, harsh measures will have to be taken!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 7, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1125774545988857856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[Swordsmyth]

The Pentagon announced that well over 200 miles of physical barrier is slated to be built along the U.S.-Mexico border in the coming months.
“We now have on contract sufficient funds to build about 256 miles of barrier,” acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan said Wednesday while testing before the Senate Appropriations Defense Subcommittee. Shanahan noted that current funding (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/08/pentagon-border-wall-1312297) is sourced from Treasury forfeiture funds, diverted money from the Pentagon, and other border funds secured by the Department of Homeland Security.

“How you will see this materialize in the next six months is that about 63 additional new miles of wall will come online,” the acting defense secretary added. The rate will equate to roughly half a mile of border wall a day.


An Arizona construction company’s lawsuit against the Trump administration revealed (https://twitter.com/Anna_Giaritelli/status/1125827302498230273) where wall projects are taking place as of April. Construction projects are underway in the Rio Grande Valley in Texas; Yuma, Arizona; New Mexico and elsewhere.
In total, $7.2 billion for border operations is requested in the Department of Defense’s 2020 fiscal year budget — half of those funds would be spent solely on physical barriers.

More at: https://truepundit.com/defense-secretary-says-256-miles-of-new-border-wall-coming-soon/

[Swordsmyth]

Acting Secretary of Defense Pat Shanahan on Friday confirmed that the Pentagon will transfer $1.5 billion in funds for President Trump's long-promised border wall, according to VOA's Carla Babb.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/shana1.jpg
Shanahan then added "I won't be reprogramming any more money for the border wall."

#BREAKING (https://twitter.com/hashtag/BREAKING?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) #Border (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Border?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) @ActingSecDef (https://twitter.com/ActingSecDef?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) Pat Shanahan confirms he is transferring $1.5 billion in Pentagon funds for the border wall, including funds Pentagon was saving for #Afghanistan (https://twitter.com/hashtag/Afghanistan?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw). But then tells me "I won't be reprogramming any more money for the border wall."
— Carla Babb (@CarlaBabbVOA) May 10, 2019 (https://twitter.com/CarlaBabbVOA/status/1126913329576980481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) In March, CNN reported that the Pentagon had authorized $1 billion to begin construction on 57 miles of border fencing, which would be diverted from the DoD's $2.5 billion drug-interdiction program authorized via Trump emergency order (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-15/watch-live-trump-declares-national-emergency-over-border-funding) which reappropriated some $7 billion from various sources to build the wall.
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The 56-year-old Shanahan has been acting secretary since James Mattis's December resignation. Since taking over at the DoD, he has backed President Trump on several policy decisions, including Trump's surprise announcement that the US would withdraw from Syria, as well as Trump's deployment of US forces and other measures to stem the flow of illegal migration at the southern border.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-10/pentagon-transfer-15-billion-afghanistan-funding-trumps-border-wall

[Swordsmyth]

Self-Deportations Are Rising Dramatically Under Trump Administration :) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534344-Self-Deportations-Are-Rising-Dramatically-Under-Trump-Administration-))

[Swordsmyth]

A dozen companies have been chosen by the U.S. military to work on $5 billion worth of construction projects for President Donald Trump’s border wall.
The Trump administration’s goal for a massive border wall between the U.S. and Mexico took a giant leap forward when the military selected (https://dod.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract-View/Article/1842189/) 12 different companies to compete for up to $5 billion worth of horizontal construction projects. The Military Times first reported (https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2019/05/09/a-dozen-companies-chosen-to-work-on-up-to-5-billion-in-construction-projects-for-trumps-border-wall/) on the awards.

Selected U.S. companies are to work on various border projects spanning a five-year time period that ends in 2024. The contracts are not limited to just new border barriers, but include repairs, levee walls, work on patrol and access roads, access gates, drainage improvements and other alterations.
The Army Corps of Engineers, which is managing the projects for Customs and Border Protection, told the Military Times that the awards follow Trump’s January 2017 executive order to bolster the U.S.-Mexico border, and are not specifically funded from the president’s national emergency declaration (https://dailycaller.com/2019/02/15/trump-national-emergency-wall/) in February, which secured nearly $4 billion in additional border wall funding.
News of the contracts come as the Department of Defense detailed exactly how much border wall will be built in the coming months.
“We now have on contract sufficient funds to build about 256 miles of barrier,” acting Defense Secretary Pat Shanahan stated during a Senate Appropriations Defense Subcommittee on Wednesday.

More at: https://truepundit.com/12-construction-companies-have-been-selected-to-work-on-trumps-border-wall/

[Swordsmyth]

Acting U.S. Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan made his second trip to the U.S.-Mexico border on Saturday as the Pentagon looks to develop a longer-term plan to support President Donald Trump’s immigration policies.

Shanahan traveled to McAllen, Texas, to meet with officials and visit a migrant processing facility and Border Patrol station, two days after the White House announced Trump’s intention to nominate the former Boeing Co executive as defense secretary.
“We’re not going to leave until the border is secure,” Shanahan told about two dozen border patrol officials as hundreds of detained migrants waited in tents to be processed.


The Pentagon has tapped a two-star Army general to work with DHS to look at what military support will be needed in the future. Shanahan said he expected a plan from the general in the next few weeks.
“(It is about) getting us out of this à la carte tasking where, ‘Hey, we need 50 guys to do this, 50 guys to do that,’” a senior defense official said, speaking on condition of anonymity. The official said the idea was to look out over a time line of at least two years.
The official added that the Pentagon was reviewing a recent request from DHS to provide housing for detained migrants.
“What we’re hopeful to do is have, in fairly short order for the secretary of Homeland Security, a much more predictable, comprehensive plan for the next couple of years,” the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Joseph Dunford, said earlier this week.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military/pentagon-eyes-longer-term-support-on-u-s-mexico-border-idUSKCN1SH09X?il=0

[enhanced_deficit]

Tom Cotton is now attacking MAGA:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534218-Have-open-border-moles-in-Trump%92s-Administration-conned-him-to-not-stop-the-border-invasion&p=6795076&viewfull=1#post6795076

[Swordsmyth]

Homeland Security officials considered arresting thousands of migrant families who had final deportation orders and removing them from the U.S. in a flashy show of force, but the idea was tabled as the Trump administration grappled with straining resources and a growing number of Central Americans crossing the border.Two Homeland Security officials and two other people familiar with the proposal described it to The Associated Press. They were not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.
The idea was to arrest parents and children in 10 cities with large populations of immigrants living in the U.S. illegally, specifically New York, Los Angeles and Chicago, they said, without naming others.
The proposal, first reported by The Washington Post, was meant to send a message and possibly deter others from coming across the border, they said.
But then-Immigrations and Customs Enforcement head Ron Vitiello and then-Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen put the proposal aside over concerns about diverting resources from the border, a lack of detention space and the possibility of renewed public outrage over treatment of families.


The tabled plan — it remains under consideration — included fast-tracking immigration cases to allow judges to order deportations for those who didn't show up for hearings. It also prioritized the newest cases in order to deport people faster.
A senior administration official said enforcing the judicial orders to remove nearly 1 million immigrants in the U.S. illegally remains a top priority. The official was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.
Vitiello's nomination to lead the immigration agency was pulled by the White House in a move last month that caught lawmakers and even the most senior Homeland Security officials off guard. Nielsen resigned just a few days later.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/ap-sources-trump-officials-discussed-deporting-families-031711342--politics.html

[Swordsmyth]

The Trump administration plans to redirect Transportation Security Administration staff to the U.S. southern border to assist with immigration duties and migrant flows, the TSA said on Wednesday.

A TSA spokesman said the agency was looking for volunteers to support efforts at the U.S. border with Mexico, where the government has said it is grappling with record numbers of people.
“TSA, like all DHS (Department of Homeland Security) components, is supporting the DHS effort to address the humanitarian and security crisis at the southwest border. TSA is in the process of soliciting volunteers to support this effort while minimizing operational impact,” TSA spokesman James Gregory said in a statement.
The TSA border assignment will last at least 45 days and comes at the start of the busy summer travel season, which a U.S. official acknowledged carried “some risk,” according to CNN, which first reported the plan, citing an internal email it obtained.
TSA staff will include 175 law enforcement officials, including air marshals, and as many as 400 security staff drawn from six U.S. cities but will not include airport screeners, CNN said, citing two additional unnamed sources. The six cities were not immediately identified.
TSA law enforcement officials sent to the border will receive legal training and assist the Customs and Border Protection (CBP) department as immigration officers, the report said.

The Department of Interior has also doubled the number of officers it is sending for three-week stints to the border, from 22 to 47, The Hill reported on Wednesday, citing an internal memorandum.

Separately on Wednesday, the Pentagon said it had received a request from the Department of Homeland Security last week to build temporary facilities at six locations to house and care for at least 7,500 adult migrants.

Reuters reported on Saturday that such a request had been made and was expected to be approved by Acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan.

More at: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-tsa/u-s-plans-to-send-transportation-security-staff-to-u-s-mexico-border-idUSKCN1SL1CM

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1128731181070061569

1128731181070061569

[Swordsmyth]

Apprehensions up 42% on NORTHERN border as Mexicans, Central Americans try to enter US from Canada (https://truepundit.com/apprehensions-up-42-on-northern-border-as-mexicans-central-americans-try-to-enter-us-from-canada/)

[enhanced_deficit]

Joe Walsh of all people, did not see this coming:

https://twitter.com/WalshFreedom/status/1129149697082445824



Probably 90% of Mexican, Central Americans are Christians.

Probably 99% of Afghans are Islamic :


Senators push for new visas for Afghans supporting US mission (https://www.stripes.com/senators-push-for-new-visas-for-afghans-supporting-us-mission-1.581104)

By CLAUDIA GRISALES | STARS AND STRIPES Published: May 15, 2019
WASHINGTON — A bipartisan group of senators rolled out legislation Wednesday to provide 4,000 new visas for Afghans who have supported the U.S. mission in Afghanistan, as Congress continues its battle with the Trump administration over immigration.
The legislation is needed because the Afghans, whose lives are in danger because of their service, are facing new roadblocks put in place by President Donald Trump to attain visas, said Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-N.H., who sponsoring the plan.
Shaheen added she was concerned by reports the administration has drastically reduced the distribution of such visas through the Afghan Special Immigrant Visa and Iraqi Direct Access programs.

“Afghan civilians continue to stand shoulder to shoulder with Americans in the battlefield at tremendous risk to the safety and welfare of their families,” Shaheen said. “Their service in support of our military and diplomatic personnel in Afghanistan has saved American lives and we have an obligation to provide sanctuary from terrorist threats.”
The Afghan Allies Protection Act of 2019 would provide the 4,000 visas by the end of fiscal year 2019, which ends Sept. 30. It also addresses new administrative obstacles put in place that prevent Afghan and Iraqi allies from receiving visas.
Shaheen has been joined by Sens. Thom Tillis, R-N.C., Jack Reed, D-R.I., Roger Wicker, R-Miss., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Cory Gardner, R-Colo., and Tim Kaine, D-Va., to launch the legislation. All are members of the Senate Armed Services Committee.

Shaheen has worked on the Afghan visa effort for several years alongside the late Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain, who died in August.




Related

http://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/total-fertility-rate/

[Swordsmyth]

U.S. President Donald Trump will not cut aid to police forces in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras, his attorney general said on Thursday, softening a previous order to cut foreign assistance to the so-called Northern Triangle nations.William Barr made the announcement during a meeting in El Salvador with his counterparts in the region, during which the four countries signed an agreement aimed at tackling drug trafficking and gangs.
The U.S. State Department said in March it would cut aid to El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras after Trump blasted the countries because thousands of their citizens had sought asylum at the border.
The tone was different on Thursday.
"In the United States, we are very grateful for your efforts, so I am very happy to announce that this close cooperation will continue," Barr said in San Salvador, praising recent progress in the fight against gangs like the MS-13, and adding that Trump supported the announcement.
"He gave his backing to me coming here, and that I make clear that we will maintain our commitment" to funding that has supported those police efforts, Barr said.


Barr and his counterparts from El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras signed an agreement to establish information exchange mechanisms in the fight against human trafficking and other crimes.
The agreement also aims to set up teams to detect migrant flows and identify key players encouraging the phenomenon.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-wont-cut-central-american-police-aid-barr-195632726.html

[Swordsmyth]

President Trump Plans to Invoke Insurrection Act to Remove Illegal Aliens From United States (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534639-President-Trump-Plans-to-Invoke-Insurrection-Act-to-Remove-Illegal-Aliens-From-United-States)

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/_Montana_Bound_/status/1129498703385862144

1129498703385862144

[Swordsmyth]

Border Patrol To Fly Thousands Of Illegal Migrants To San Diego (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-18/not-just-florida-border-patrol-fly-thousands-illegal-migrants-san-diego)

[ATruepatriot]

Border Patrol To Fly Thousands Of Illegal Migrants To San Diego (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-18/not-just-florida-border-patrol-fly-thousands-illegal-migrants-san-diego)

It's not that much farther to frisco. :)

[Swordsmyth]

Self-Deportations Are Rising Dramatically Under Trump Administration :) (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534344-Self-Deportations-Are-Rising-Dramatically-Under-Trump-Administration-))


If the thousands of Mexicans moving home are taken into account, the flow of migrants from the United States to Mexico is probably larger than the flow of Mexicans to the United States.

More at: https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/the-little-noticed-surge-across-the-u-s-mexico-border-americans-heading-south/

[enhanced_deficit]

Has there been any polling on this, does GOP base support using New Zealand and Canada as a model for US?


May 16, 2019

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: Thank you very much, everybody. Thank you. Please. Thank you. Thank you very much. We are here on this very beautiful spring day in the Rose Garden to unveil our plan to create a fair, modern, and lawful system of immigration for the United States, and it's about time.

(APPLAUSE)

Only 12 percent of legal immigrants are selected based on skill or based on merit. In countries like Canada, Australia, and New Zealand and others, that number is closer to 60 percent, and even 70 percent and 75 percent in some cases. The biggest change we make is to increase the proportion of highly skilled immigration from 12 percent to 57 percent, and we'd like to even see if we can go higher.

(APPLAUSE)

This will bring us in line with other countries and make us globally competitive.

At the same time, we prioritize the immediate family of new Americans, spouses and children. The loved ones you choose to build a life with we prioritize. And we have to do that. They go right to the front of the line, right to the front of the line where they should be.

(APPLAUSE)

America's last major overhaul of our legal admissions policy was 54 years ago. Think of that. So, a major update, and that's what this is, a merit system and a heart system, is long overdue. The millions of illegal immigrants who have come to America over the past half-century are now cherished members of our national family.

(APPLAUSE)


https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/05/16/watch_live_president_trump_expected_to_unveil_new_ immigration_plan.html



Or not. MH1BGA?

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1083705208834834433?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfwhttp://www.ronpaulforums.com/clear.gif Reply With Quote (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=6733646)


H1-B holders in the United States can rest assured that changes are soon coming which will bring both simplicity and certainty to your stay, including a potential path to citizenship. We want to encourage talented and highly skilled people to pursue career options in the U.S.




If true he crossed that threshold where what the hell is the point of supporting him anymore. It took a few years to finally say $#@! Trump. I'm out.

We ended up with a 3rd Bush Presidency. At this point I want to see him crushed by his opposition and I don't give a $#@! about the consequences. I want him to go down for this great betrayal for putting Americans and his supporters last.

If he is turning his greatest defenders like Ann Coulter and supporters like myself against him, who is going to be left to support him in 2020? Never mind, I know the same idiots that voted for Romney, Bush and whatever Foxnews feeds them regardless of the betrayals.

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/wtfreaction.gif





Related

Trump reiterates claim that he wants more legal immigration (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532264-Trump-reiterates-claim-that-he-wants-more-legal-immigration&)

[Swordsmyth]

As the U.S. immigration system strains with the highest number of apprehensions at the southwestern border (https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-total-monthly-apps-sector-area-fy2018.pdf) in a decade, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) is looking at opening new detention facilities in California.
ICE is considering using existing facilities or constructing new facilities in the Los Angeles, San Diego and San Francisco areas to house between 5,100 to 5,600 detainees, according to official documents (https://www.fbo.gov/index.php?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=59fe5b894bafebebd22126f21614e00a&tab=core&tabmode=list&=) posted on the Federal Business Opportunities website. The facilities would be used to house “criminal aliens and other immigrant violators,” the documents say.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/despite-opposition-ice-looks-open-153748259.html

[kahless]

Trump live a few minutes ago saying "were full". So why all this bullshit. If we are full, we are full. He should stop trying to placate big business by screwing over our tech graduates. We have plenty of high tech people here that can fill these positions.

This idea we have to import them from overseas is a complete and total farce. The quality is horrible and they are only brought here since they are more easily controlled like slaves and for cheap labor.

[PAF]

Trump live a few minutes ago saying "were full". So why all this bull$#@!. If we are full, we are full. He should stop trying to placate big business by screwing over our tech graduates. We have plenty of high tech people here that can fill these positions.

This idea we have to import them from overseas is a complete and total farce. The quality is horrible and they are only brought here since they are more easily controlled like slaves and for cheap labor.

We need ditch diggers and garbage men too, jobs that "legal" American multi-generation Section 8 folks don't want. If trump cared about liberty and fiscal responsibility he would stay out of the affairs of private business and make a call to end incentives/welfare which Ron speaks about every chance he gets.

This "nationalism" is beginning to seep into the minds of RPF'rs, complaining about "equality" and cheap labor, losing site to private contract rights. Next I'll be reading about how RPF support unions. Utterly amazing.

Most are too blind to see that this "government do something" approach is only causing people to rally FOR documenting people, restricting freedom to travel and eliminating private contract rights. Even republicans are cheering on that businesses should be prosecuted for hiring people without documentation and now demand that workers pay their "fair share" to the Fed.gov (federal taxation).

ICE, DHS, let's hire MORE government goons!!! /sarc

[RJB]

Trump live a few minutes ago saying "were full". So why all this bullshit. If we are full, we are full. He should stop trying to placate big business by screwing over our tech graduates. We have plenty of high tech people here that can fill these positions.

This idea we have to import them from overseas is a complete and total farce. The quality is horrible and they are only brought here since they are more easily controlled like slaves and for cheap labor.

It's the same with education. I sat through a number of courses taught by professors that spoke English (horribly) as a second language. I might as well have stayed home and read the book instead.

[Swordsmyth]

The U.S. Secret Service (https://www.thedailybeast.com/secret-service-agent-infects-own-computer-with-mar-a-lago-malware-and-tech-community-snickers) is now participating in a not-so-secret undertaking: dealing with the influx of migrants at America’s southern border. According to a communication from the Department of Homeland Security’s headquarters reviewed by The Daily Beast, the small law enforcement agency has sent personnel to the border already and is looking to send more in the coming weeks.
The move came in response to a directive then-DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen (https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-moment-kirstjen-nielsen-doomed-her-future-with-trump) sent out earlier this spring asking each component of the department to find volunteers and dispatch them to the border. Even though it’s most closely associated with the White House, the Secret Service—along with a host of other entities and agencies—is a component of DHS. And as a result, it’s shipping people south.
A DHS spokesperson did not dispute this reporting.
“As we have consistently said, the Department is considering all options to address the humanitarian and security crisis at our southern border,” said the spokesperson. “We will continue to work with our workforce to find dynamic solutions and funding to address this very serious problem. As part of this effort, it is our responsibility to explore fiscal mechanisms that will ensure the safety and welfare of both our workforce and the migrant population, which is also reflected in the supplemental request submitted to Congress.”
The Daily Beast reported last week (https://www.thedailybeast.com/department-of-homeland-security-urges-cybersecurity-staff-to-deploy-to-border-instead) that the arm of DHS that handles threats to America’s cybersecurity and critical infrastructure, called the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency, has struggled to find enough volunteers to head to the border and fulfill DHS headquarters’ request. The agency works to secure election systems, schools, and places of worship—all of which face acute threats.
Besides protecting the president, the first family, and other prominent government figures, the Secret Service also conducts criminal investigations. Its focuses include financial crimes and cybersecurity threats.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/secret-officers-being-sent-border-011031185.html

[kahless]

We need ditch diggers and garbage men too, jobs that "legal" American multi-generation Section 8 folks don't want. If trump cared about liberty and fiscal responsibility he would stay out of the affairs of private business and make a call to end incentives/welfare which Ron speaks about every chance he gets.

This "nationalism" is beginning to seep into the minds of RPF'rs, complaining about "equality" and cheap labor, losing site to private contract rights. Next I'll be reading about how RPF support unions. Utterly amazing.

Most are too blind to see that this "government do something" approach is only causing people to rally FOR documenting people, restricting freedom to travel and eliminating private contract rights. Even republicans are cheering on that businesses should be prosecuted for hiring people without documentation and now demand that workers pay their "fair share" to the Fed.gov (federal taxation).

ICE, DHS, let's hire MORE government goons!!! /sarc

That must have taken great effort lifting that shovel of propaganda. Comments like yours are typical of how fake libertarians subvert the ability to achieve the libertarian dream with the US. When someone points out the impossibility of applying the philosophy cross border, statist leaps are made about the beliefs of those pointing it out.

It is the primary reason why much of the libertarian movement is a complete utter sham. The two most destructive types are the useful tools that have their blinders on when it comes to trying to apply the philosophy cross border since they have been brainwashed by fake libertarian propaganda and then there are those that know the truth that applying the philosophy cross border negates the ability to achieve it from within but continue to defend it.

When people like you stop being part of the problem the libertarian movement and philosophy may actually make in-roads in our society. Unfortunately I do not see that happening anytime soon with so many useful tools such as yourself.

[enhanced_deficit]

On Drudge today:






https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.4IqA_P8hcEjiGlqDP_wh2QHaE8&w=290&h=188&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7

Migrant Backlash Brewing in Murrieta...

Call Us Racist, We Don't Care...

Dropped Off At Strip Malls? (https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2019/05/20/murrieta-boarder-control/)




Early reporting can be foggy, let's wait for official version before jumping to assumptions.

[PAF]

That must have taken great effort lifting that shovel of propaganda. Comments like yours are typical of how fake libertarians subvert the ability to achieve the libertarian dream with the US. When someone points out the impossibility of applying the philosophy cross border, statist leaps are made about the beliefs of those pointing it out.

It is the primary reason why much of the libertarian movement is a complete utter sham. The two most destructive types are the useful tools that have their blinders on when it comes to trying to apply the philosophy cross border since they have been brainwashed by fake libertarian propaganda and then there are those that know the truth that applying the philosophy cross border negates the ability to achieve it from within but continue to defend it.

When people like you stop being part of the problem the libertarian movement and philosophy may actually make in-roads in our society. Unfortunately I do not see that happening anytime soon with so many useful tools such as yourself.


I heard the same statist garbage from the romney folks down in Tampa. Didn't bother me then, doesn't bother me now.

Fear not, liberty will not prevail any time soon, too many folks in this country think just like you; a slave who regurgitates government propaganda.

Remember this: liberty is not taught - it is felt and lived.


6455

[LibertyEagle]

I heard the same statist garbage from the romney folks down in Tampa. Didn't bother me then, doesn't bother me now.

Fear not, liberty will not prevail any time soon, too many folks in this country think just like you; a slave who regurgitates government propaganda.

Remember this: liberty is not taught - it is felt and lived.



Here, read this. Educate yourself.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/11/lew-rockwell/open-borders-assault-private-property/

[Swordsmyth]

Here, read this. Educate yourself.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2015/11/lew-rockwell/open-borders-assault-private-property/

He should also read this:

Mises on Nationalism, Self-Determination & Immigration (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509382-Mises-on-Nationalism-Self-Determination-amp-Immigration)

[enhanced_deficit]

If all these bold steps are being taken (above reports do not seem to be fakenews), where is the issue... in getting the message out?
Why conservatives like Brietbart readership, Drudge readers, Foxnews critics, some Tea party leaders, Coulters of America do not see things the way GOP-Adelson leadership is projecting?

Such perceptions could cost GOP-Adelson wing 2020 if messaging and outreach to alienated conservatives is not addressed before elections. This was one recent example, there are increasing number of folks on Right expressing similar sentiments.


https://agnostic.com/images/posts/68050_d1a247p41xo7s51_full.jpeg?v=2



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(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)https://66.media.tumblr.com/22db3e85a27e15497786d80e5348b977/tumblr_p3gzmuEUPq1we4t2no1_640.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/294/982/125.jpg

[Swordsmyth]

President Donald Trump has picked Ken Cuccinelli to help implement and coordinate his immigration policies and decisions. The news was reported by the New York Times, which described (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/21/us/politics/trump-ken-cuccinelli-immigration.html) Cuccinelli as an “immigration hard-liner … [and] aligned with Mr. Trump on issues related to border security”:

The specifics of the role — including the title and the scope of duties — are still being hashed out, according to the official. But Mr. Cuccinelli is expected to be based in the Department of Homeland Security, not in the White House.
Mr. Cuccinelli met with Mr. Trump in the Oval Office on Monday, along with nearly a dozen other administration officials, including Kevin K. McAleenan, the acting secretary of homeland security. By Monday evening, Mr. Cuccinelli had begun placing calls to people to alert them that he was expected to get the job, according to people familiar with the discussions.
Cuccinelli is expected to coordinate the implementation of Trump’s border security policies, including the construction of the border wall and a reform of the catch-and-release laws and regulations.


Cuccinelli has a long record opposing illegal migration, but little record or experience with other aspects of the nation’s migration problem, such as the catch-and-release laws, and the government’s role in using legal migration to expand the nation’s new labor supply with cheap legal and illegal workers.
Cuccinelli became president of the Senate Conservatives Fund in 2014 after narrowly losing the 2013 race for the governorship of Virginia. His 2013 loss was partly blamed on lack of support from the GOP establishment.
The Senate Conservatives Fund has helped elect GOP candidates who were opposed by the establishment GOP. For example, the SCF gets some credit (https://www.senateconservatives.com/#about) for helping elect Josh Hawley from Missouri.


The SCF website says (https://www.senateconservatives.com/#about):

SCF is a national grassroots organization that seeks to bring bold conservative leadership to Washington by supporting candidates who will fight for the timeless conservative principles of limited government, strong national defense, and traditional family values.
SCF helps candidates by bundling contributions for them from thousands of freedom-loving Americans across the country, and by running hard-hitting radio and television ads to promote their conservative campaigns.
SCF is not funded by special interests in Washington, it is not funded by a small group of mega donors, and it is not funded by the Republican Party. SCF is funded by the grassroots. In fact, the average contribution amount to SCF is just $45.
As head of the SCF, Cuccinelli opposed Trump during the GOP’s 2016 convention. The NYT reported:

He is a frequent presence on cable news, which Mr. Trump consumes with gusto. … he caught the president’s attention during the 2016 presidential primaries, when he led the effort to strip Mr. Trump of delegates on behalf of an opponent, Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, a person close to the president said.




More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/21/donald-trump-picks-ken-cuccinelli-to-oversee-immigration-policy/

[Swordsmyth]

I am very disappointed that Mexico is doing virtually nothing to stop illegal immigrants from coming to our Southern Border where everyone knows that because of the Democrats, our Immigration Laws are totally flawed & broken…
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 21, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130870086531727360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

…Mexico’s attitude is that people from other countries, including Mexico, should have the right to flow into the U.S. & that U.S. taxpayers should be responsible for the tremendous costs associated w/this illegal migration. Mexico is wrong and I will soon be giving a response!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 21, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1130870087823613952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

[Swordsmyth]

Border officers are returning pregnant migrants to Mexico, according to the Los Angeles Times. Under the headline, “Pregnant women, other vulnerable asylum seekers are returned to Mexico to await hearings,” the Los Angeles Times described (https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-migrant-remain-in-mexico-20190519-story.html) how President Donald Trump’s “Remain in Mexico” policy is reducing the ability of adventurous migrants to give birth in the United States:

When Enma Hernandez crossed the Rio Grande here illegally about two weeks ago and approached Border Patrol agents seeking asylum, she told them she was eight months pregnant.

Hernandez, 26, said she had fled Guatemala hoping to join her husband and 2-year-old daughter in Miami. Instead, U.S. immigration officials returned her to Ciudad Juarez under the Trump administration’s “Remain in Mexico” policy.
…

Hernandez says American officials should let pregnant women remain in the U.S. until their asylum cases are decided. “We should be an exception because we are vulnerable,” she said. “It’s dangerous for us here.”
Four other pregnant migrants crossed the bridge on Thursday with her, along with a new mother carrying her 6-day-old daughter. All were in the Remain in Mexico program.




Under President Barack Obama, nearly all pregnant migrants were invited to remain in the United States pending a courtroom hearing for their asylum claims. Moreover, when the migrants lost their claims for asylum, Obama’s deputies barred enforcement officials from deporting the migrants because of their U.S.-born children, dubbed “anchor babies.”
Many migrants recognized this opportunity and rationally grabbed American citizenship for their children. However, the new policy may reduce the number of visibly pregnant migrants who try to claim asylum.
An October 2918 study by the Center for Immigration Studies shows that almost 300,000 children (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/31/study-300k-anchor-babies-born-every-year-exceeding-u-s-births-in-48-states/) are born to illegal immigrants each year. That number is equivalent to one of every thirteen children born each year.
By May 17, the Department of Homeland Security had sent 6,004 migrants back to Mexico, including several pregnant migrants.


The Remain in Mexico program — which is now called the “Migrant Protection Protocols ” — is growing because it has survived the first round of legal fights.


9th Circuit Court OKs 'Remain in Mexico' plan which allows US border officers to partway throttle the flow of money in the cartels' Central American labor trafficking biz. US immigration lawyers are appalled at some clients' loss of access to US jobs. https://t.co/u9uCciNfg3
— Neil Munro (@NeilMunroDC) May 8, 2019 (https://twitter.com/NeilMunroDC/status/1126213135910805505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
The policy is also nudging some migrants to return to their homes in Central America, the LAT said:

Xiomara, 21, said she left her rural hometown … to join family in Tallahasee, Fla., expecting she would be released to a U.S. shelter, as relatives had been after they crossed to Texas last month. Instead, she was returned to Juarez, also with a Jan. 15 court date. Now she too planned to return home.




More at: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/20/los-angeles-times-border-agencies-return-pregnant-migrants-to-mexico/

[Swordsmyth]

Migrants are forgoing welfare benefits out of fear of Trump’s proposed Visa rules (https://www.newsweek.com/trump-immigration-green-cards-welfare-1433132)

[devil21]

President Trump Plans to Invoke Insurrection Act to Remove Illegal Aliens From United States (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534639-President-Trump-Plans-to-Invoke-Insurrection-Act-to-Remove-Illegal-Aliens-From-United-States)

That doesn't sound like Garden Plot/REX 84 at all. Nope. Not one bit. All perfectly normal and natural to put active military on the streets. Totally legit reason too, no doubt. Cuz illegals.

[UWDude]

a slave

LoL

To compare anybody living today, to what happened to black people in the Americas, is laughable.

To try and broaden the definition, so you could be technically right, is semantics.

There are servants in America, but there are no slaves.
In fact, there are a ton of bureaucrats who sold their souls long ago to the machine.
But they are not slaves; they are the upper middle and middle classes.
Doing incredibly well, and wielding far more influence than anyone here, Amash included.

Life is incredibly good in America.

It's good to be a citizen of the Empire.

Sucks to be a citizen of an enemy of the Empire.

That's why everybody in the world wants to be the Empire.

[timosman]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-memorandum-requiring-immigrant-sponsors-pay-social-services


President Trump is signed a memorandum Thursday that will enforce a 23-year-old provision requiring sponsors of legal immigrants in the U.S. to reimburse the government for any social services such as Medicaid or welfare used by the immigrant, Fox News has learned.

The provision was part of the 1996 Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA) and Welfare Reform laws that were signed by then-President Bill Clinton, but despite being enshrined in federal law, the rule has not been enforced.

Under the provision, each future sponsor of an immigrant would need to sign an affidavit that would spell out the financial responsibilities for the sponsored immigrant and create a collection mechanism to recover funds from the sponsor. The Department of Health and Human Services is to collect the data of the sponsors and the immigrants, while the Treasury Department would collect the funds.

...

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-memorandum-requiring-immigrant-sponsors-pay-social-services

:D

[Swordsmyth]

U.S. Customs and Border Patrol announced Tuesday the creation of a new administrative position intended to help ease the stresses on the system created by the recent influx of asylum-seekers arriving at the southern border.
The new “Border Patrol Processing Coordinator” position is designed to help alleviate the administrative duties that CBP agents have been forced to take on, often at the expense of their traditional enforcement duties, as record numbers of women and children have arrived at the border seeking asylum.
“I am committed to providing the men and women of the U.S. Border Patrol the resources they need to accomplish their border-security mission,” said Carla Provost (https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/national-media-release/us-border-patrol-creates-new-position-support-border-patrol-agents), chief of the U.S. Border Patrol. “Border Patrol Processing Coordinators will take on processing, transportation, and custody responsibilities, which will free up agents for critical law-enforcement operations.”

The recent migrant surge has also caused border security to suffer as roughly 40 percent of Border Patrol agents have been forced to handle processing, transportation, and custody responsibilities, rather than the law-enforcement operations for which they are trained, according to Provost’s press release.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/border-patrol-create-migrant-care-212844315.html

[Pauls' Revere]

Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.

Real I.D. :(

[Swordsmyth]

Trump’s choice for new Immigration Chief is a hardliner. (https://barenakedislam.com/2019/05/29/excellent-trumps-choice-for-new-immigration-chief-is-a-hardliner-on-illegal-immigration-strong-advocate-for-crackdown-on-free-handouts-for-illegal-aliens/) Opposes birthright citizenship and wants to strip illegal immigrants of unemployment benefits.

[Swordsmyth]

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), in partnership with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), has awarded a contract to construct approximately three miles of new bollard wall system on federally owned land within the Rio Grande Valley Sector (RGV) Rio Grande City area of responsibility in Starr County, Texas.The contract for this project was awarded on May 28, 2019 to Kiewit Infrastructure West Co. for the amount of $42,860,000 and construction is anticipated to begin in August 2019. This project includes the construction of 18-30 foot tall steel bollards, in addition to road construction, detection technology and lighting installation.
This project is funded by CBP’s Fiscal Year 2019 (FY19) Appropriation. It is not a project undertaken pursuant to the National Emergency Declaration, 10 U.S.C § 284, 10 U.S.C. § 2808, nor does it draw from any other source of funding, including appropriations available to the Department of Defense (DoD) or Department of Treasury.


RGV is the busiest sector in the nation and accounts for more than 40% of the illegal alien apprehensions, more than 43% of the seized marijuana in the southwest border for the fiscal year to date, and is second in seized cocaine. RGV accounts for a large percentage of the southwest border illegal alien apprehensions and narcotic seizures and the majority of its activity is occurring in areas where RGV has limited infrastructure, access and mobility, and technology.
CBP continues to implement President Trump’s Executive Order 13767 – also known as Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements – and continues to take steps to expeditiously plan, design, and construct a physical wall using appropriate materials and technology to most effectively achieve operational control of the southern border.
This project will improve the RGV sector’s ability to impede and deny illegal border crossings and the drug and human smuggling activities of transnational criminal organizations.

More at: https://breaking911.com/contract-award-for-new-border-wall-project-in-the-rio-grande-valley/

[PAF]

U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), in partnership with the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers (USACE), has awarded a contract to construct approximately three miles of new bollard wall system on federally owned land within the Rio Grande Valley Sector (RGV) Rio Grande City area of responsibility in Starr County, Texas.The contract for this project was awarded on May 28, 2019 to Kiewit Infrastructure West Co. for the amount of $42,860,000 and construction is anticipated to begin in August 2019. This project includes the construction of 18-30 foot tall steel bollards, in addition to road construction, detection technology and lighting installation.
This project is funded by CBP’s Fiscal Year 2019 (FY19) Appropriation. It is not a project undertaken pursuant to the National Emergency Declaration, 10 U.S.C § 284, 10 U.S.C. § 2808, nor does it draw from any other source of funding, including appropriations available to the Department of Defense (DoD) or Department of Treasury.


RGV is the busiest sector in the nation and accounts for more than 40% of the illegal alien apprehensions, more than 43% of the seized marijuana in the southwest border for the fiscal year to date, and is second in seized cocaine. RGV accounts for a large percentage of the southwest border illegal alien apprehensions and narcotic seizures and the majority of its activity is occurring in areas where RGV has limited infrastructure, access and mobility, and technology.
CBP continues to implement President Trump’s Executive Order 13767 – also known as Border Security and Immigration Enforcement Improvements – and continues to take steps to expeditiously plan, design, and construct a physical wall using appropriate materials and technology to most effectively achieve operational control of the southern border.
This project will improve the RGV sector’s ability to impede and deny illegal border crossings and the drug and human smuggling activities of transnational criminal organizations.

More at: https://breaking911.com/contract-award-for-new-border-wall-project-in-the-rio-grande-valley/


The price of everything will go up.

Because the very simple and root problems are not addressed.

[timosman]

Trump’s choice for new Immigration Chief is a hardliner. (https://barenakedislam.com/2019/05/29/excellent-trumps-choice-for-new-immigration-chief-is-a-hardliner-on-illegal-immigration-strong-advocate-for-crackdown-on-free-handouts-for-illegal-aliens/) Opposes birthright citizenship and wants to strip illegal immigrants of unemployment benefits.

That's a dup of post #168.

[Swordsmyth]

That's a dup of post #168.
This has more specifics about him.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump alluded to taking action on the border crisis Wednesday, telling reporters that he is “going to do something very dramatic on the border,” and claimed that he would be making his “biggest statement” on the issue.

“This is a big league statement,” he said. “I’m not closing the border, I’m doing something else.”

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/report-trump-considering-banning-asylum-for-central-americans/

[Swordsmyth]

Trump Unleashes Tariffs On Mexico "Until Illegal Immigration Stops" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535119-Trump-Unleashes-Tariffs-On-Mexico-quot-Until-Illegal-Immigration-Stops-quot)

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump administration prepares to release Central American migrants 'across the entire nation' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535048-Trump-administration-prepares-to-release-Central-American-migrants-across-the-entire-nation&)







1,036 migrants, with 63 unaccompanied children, become largest single group ever taken into custody at southern border

by Anna Giaritelli
| May 30, 2019

The group included 63 children traveling without a parent or guardian. Another 39 people were single adults, and the remaining 934 claimed to be traveling with a family member, according to a report. Guatemalan citizens made up just over half the detainees. The rest are primarily from other Central American countries, including Honduras and El Salvador.

It's not clear if the group came from Northern Triangle countries as part of a caravan, though it's not likely, given no news of a convoy traveling through Mexico. Border Patrol has said human smugglers often oversee the movement of migrants at the border and use the groups to distract federal law enforcement while they move narcotics or people hoping to avoid arrest over unmanned parts of the border. Smugglers charge migrants an average of $5,000 to $8,000 each to get to the United States.

[Also read: Top sheriff warns: Trump's 'done' if illegal immigration isn't slashed (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/top-sheriff-warns-trumps-done-if-illegal-immigration-isnt-slashed)]

Border Patrol said in late March its agents on the southern border had since October apprehended 100 groups that contained 100 or more people (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/border-patrol-just-took-in-a-mini-caravan-of-more-than-100-people-its-the-100th-one-this-year). In its 2017 fiscal year, CBP documented two groups of 100 people or more. That jumped to 13 groups in 2018.




https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1-036-migrants-with-63-unaccompanied-children-become-largest-single-group-ever-taken-into-custody-at-southern-border



Related

Caravan #3 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529745-Caravan-3&)

[Swordsmyth]

Trump administration prepares to release Central American migrants 'across the entire nation' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535048-Trump-administration-prepares-to-release-Central-American-migrants-across-the-entire-nation&)











https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/1-036-migrants-with-63-unaccompanied-children-become-largest-single-group-ever-taken-into-custody-at-southern-border



Related

Caravan #3 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529745-Caravan-3&)

Trump has to release some invaders because of the courts and Congress so he is dumping them in Demoncrat states and cities.

How many times are you going to treat this old news as new?

[donnay]

Looks like Mexico will be paying for the wall after all.

[Swordsmyth]

Looks like Mexico will be paying for the wall after all.
BINGO!

I'm sure they will pay in other ways too if they don't stop the invasion.

[Swordsmyth]

If President Trump's decision to impose tariffs on Mexican imports and withhold aid money from Central America were examples of the stick, then the White House is following up with a surprising carrot.
After Trump's surprise tariff announcement triggered a steep selloff in markets on Friday, it appears the administration is pivoting to a novel new strategy: Sending dozens of DHS agents and investigators to Guatemala to try and stem the tide of unauthorized immigration.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/2019.05.31migrants.JPG
First reported late Friday by the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-administration-to-send-dhs-agents-investigators-to-guatemala-mexico-border/2019/05/31/25bb9f0e-83b2-11e9-bce7-40b4105f7ca0_story.html?utm_term=.a3b2f77eea59), Acting DHS Secretary Kevin McAleenan has reportedly lobbied heavily to take a more "muscular" approach to working with local governments to solve the root cause of the immigration crisis. According to a memorandum of understanding with the Guatemalan government signed by McAleenan, approximately Customs Agents and DHS investigators will be deployed to Guatemala to work side-by-side with local police. US agents will help train local police, as well as assist in "law enforcement actions" to improve criminal investigations, to try and break the stranglehold that powerful drug gangs have on society.
The agents will be deployed along the Guatemala-Mexico border, where they will focus on some of the poorest areas of the country. US troops are expected to carry weapons, and, according to WaPo (https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-administration-to-send-dhs-agents-investigators-to-guatemala-mexico-border/2019/05/31/25bb9f0e-83b2-11e9-bce7-40b4105f7ca0_story.html?utm_term=.a3b2f77eea59), in what appears to be a trial run, DHS agents helped Guatemalan police arrest nine suspected smugglers in Guatemala City.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-31/trump-administration-deploys-dozens-dhs-agents-guatemala-mexico-border

[Zippyjuan]

Let's send in our military to tell another country how it should be behaving!

[Swordsmyth]

Let's send in our military to tell another country how it should be behaving!
It's not military and they are voluntarily cooperating, it's certainly better than going to war to stop the invasion which could become necessary if we let the problem continue to get worse.

[Zippyjuan]

"Invasion!" "War!" - more key words. Repeat key words often for best effect.

[Swordsmyth]

"Invasion!" "War!" - more key words. Repeat key words often for best effect.
The truth must really get under your skin or you wouldn't complain about it so much.

[Zippyjuan]

The truth must really get under your skin or you wouldn't complain about it so much.

It is just boring that you post the exact same thing over and over and over..... Try coming up with something new! Or get a new guidebook with fresh terms in it. You are being way over-paid.

[Swordsmyth]

It is just boring that you post the exact same thing over and over and over..... Try coming up with something new! Or get a new guidebook with fresh terms in it. You are being way over-paid.
Truth doesn't change and it is impossible to be overpaid when you aren't working for anyone.

[Swordsmyth]

Politico reported (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/30/asylum-restrictions-trump-central-america-1489012) yesterday that Trump will also adjust the rules that govern applications for asylum. The new rules would block applications from illegals who live in another country other than their own before they arrive here. Thus, migrants traveling through Mexico would not be permitted to apply. “U.S. law allows refugees to request asylum when they arrive on U.S. soil, but has long included an exemption for those who have already emigrated to a safe country,” Politico noted.


More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/32482-trump-tariffs-on-mexico-could-hit-25-percent-asylum-rules-to-change

[Swordsmyth]

The Trump administration is planning a large-scale deportation operation of illegal aliens, including those who have refused to show for their asylum court hearings.
The strategy is meant to “disincentivize” economic migrants who crossed into the U.S. illegally without legitimate asylum claims, according to Immigration and Customs Enforcement acting director Mark Morgan.
“We have no choice as I see this,” Morgan said (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ice-planning-large-scale-deportations-that-will-include-families) Tuesday. “We need to take some interior enforcement action…We need to continue to do everything that we can within the current legal framework, within the current laws, within the current statutorily mandated duties of ICE, to assist, to reduce this humanitarian crisis. That will include families.”


He said ICE won’t “target” families in their operation, but they won’t be “exempt” from deportation.
“I think that a significant incentive there is the fact that once you’re here and you’ve gone through the entire due process in this country and you’ve received a final order of deportation…We’re in a position where we need to enforce that to disincentivize these individuals from taking that trip, exploiting the loopholes, and entering our country illegally,” he said.
Additionally, Morgan pointed out that ICE would operate within its legal limitations despite Democrat efforts to prevent it.
“We need to make sure that we’re executing those statutorily required responsibilities that Congress has passed,” Morgan said.
“If they don’t like the laws, they can change them. But right now this is the law, this is ICE’s mandate. I’m committed to ensure that we’re executing those laws with compassion and humanity.”
Morgan didn’t offer details about the deportation plan, such as when it will take place or what parts of the country would be involved.

More at: https://www.infowars.com/we-have-no-choice-trump-admin-prepares-large-scale-deportations-of-illegal-aliens-amid-crisis/

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Papers, please! You are now required to provide proof of citizenship to enter this building.

America is not common property of the world, you a shill for open borders, the best way to destroy a nation, culture, people and race.

If you want open borders cut down your walls and have it at it.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Trump's mother came as a unaccompanied minor on chain migration. So did his grandfather (his father's father).

And who gives a fuck? "This one time, this one thing happen, therefore we can not do X because otherwise that would not be "fair""..Get fucked.

We had immigration, therefore immigration forever really does prove that immigration should not be allowed to begin with.

[Zippyjuan]

America is not common property of the world, you a shill for open borders, the best way to destroy a nation, culture, people and race.

If you want open borders cut down your walls and have it at it.

Who is for open borders?

[Zippyjuan]

And who gives a $#@!? "This one time, this one thing happen, therefore we can not do X because otherwise that would not be "fair""..Get $#@!ed.

We had immigration, therefore immigration forever really does prove that immigration should not be allowed to begin with.

Without any immigration, you would not be here. Are you going to self- deport?

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Trump’s choice for new Immigration Chief is a hardliner. (https://barenakedislam.com/2019/05/29/excellent-trumps-choice-for-new-immigration-chief-is-a-hardliner-on-illegal-immigration-strong-advocate-for-crackdown-on-free-handouts-for-illegal-aliens/) Opposes birthright citizenship and wants to strip illegal immigrants of unemployment benefits.

Fucking Based

[tod evans]

Without any immigration, you would not be here. Are you going to self- deport?

My ancestors conquered and took the spoils of war.

I welcome a fight.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

The price of everything will go up.

Because the very simple and root problems are not addressed.

As will wages, as will the tax burden lower as the number of burdens is lowered.

The idea of "Muh Avocado are more important then keeping my nation, culture, and rights" is too stupid to take seriously.

[Swordsmyth]

Without any immigration, you would not be here. Are you going to self- deport?
I was born here, I have a right to be here and no place else to go.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Looks like Mexico will be paying for the wall after all.

Tax all money leaving the nation at 25% min...Time to stop playing the worlds whore.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

"Invasion!" "War!" - more key words. Repeat key words often for best effect.

Hey shill, stop shilling, ok?

[Zippyjuan]

I was born here, I have a right to be here and no place else to go.

Were all of your ancestors born here?

[Swordsmyth]

Were all of your ancestors born here?
That is irrelevant.

My ancestors took this land from those who were here before them as did almost every culture on earth, that doesn't obligate me to allow anyone to do the same to me.

[Zippyjuan]

That is irrelevant.

My ancestors took this land from those who were here before them as did almost every culture on earth, that doesn't obligate me to allow anyone to do the same to me.

Without immigration you would not be here. And you admit your ancestors were criminals. You should be deported.

[Swordsmyth]

Tax all money leaving the nation at 25% min...Time to stop playing the worlds whore.
I would limit that to transactions where proof of citizenship/legal presence was not presented.

There are other better ways to deal with the trade wars.

[Swordsmyth]

Without immigration you would not be here. And you admit your ancestors were criminals. You should be deported.
I am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors and there is no place to deport me to.

You are making a fool of yourself.

Almost every human on earth is in the same position I am in, where would you deport them? Mars?

The current invaders are responsible for their own actions and they have a place where they belong that we can return them to.

[Zippyjuan]

I am not responsible for the actions of my ancestors and there is no place to deport me to.

You are making a fool of yourself.

Almost every human on earth is in the same position I am in, where would you deport them? Mars?

The current invaders are responsible for their own actions and they have a place where they belong that we can return them to.

So people should not be deported for the sins of their parents. Good to know. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535296-House-passes-bill-giving-Dreamers-path-to-citizenship-despite-Trump-veto-threat&p=6808001#post6808001

[Danke]

My ancestors conquered and took the spoils of war.

I welcome a fight.

Yep. Modern Immigration is different from homesteading and improving property, not taking from those already paying taxes.

[Swordsmyth]

So people should not be deported for the sins of their parents. Good to know. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535296-House-passes-bill-giving-Dreamers-path-to-citizenship-despite-Trump-veto-threat&p=6808001#post6808001
No, they should be deported for staying where they don't have a right to be.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Without any immigration, you would not be here. Are you going to self- deport?

Wrong. My forefathers settled a wildness, fighting of hordes of stone age savages, do not compare that with the idea that is the same as showing up to a already build nation, demanding welfare, and right to vote.

Without mass immigration, we would not have nation wreakers like YOU Juan in this nation, working against its people, their rights, and their future. Stop projecting, stop lying.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

That is irrelevant.

My ancestors took this land from those who were here before them as did almost every culture on earth, that doesn't obligate me to allow anyone to do the same to me.

"But if you do not destroy yourself, you will not live up to my wrapped sense of morality.

[Zippyjuan]

Wrong. My forefathers settled a wildness, fighting of hordes of stone age savages, do not compare that with the idea that is the same as showing up to a already build nation, demanding welfare, and right to vote.

Without mass immigration, we would not have nation wreakers likeYOU Juan in this nation, working against its people, their rights, and their future. Stop projecting, stop lying.

The "savages" were not living in nations? That you stole property from? So you should be OK with somebody trying to steal property from you. "Survival of the fittest" and all that.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Without immigration you would not be here. And you admit your ancestors were criminals. You should be deported.

No, they did not immigrate, they settled America. World Apart.

My ancestors were settlers, warriors and conquers and they took from others what they could not defend, let that serve as a reminder that the world in the end is defeined by force and those who use it.

[Zippyjuan]

No, they should be deported for staying where they don't have a right to be.

Whose house are they staying in? Yours?

[Swordsmyth]

"But if you do not destroy yourself, you will not live up to my wrapped sense of morality.
"But if you don't surrender my side won't be able to destroy you".

[Swordsmyth]

Whose house are they staying in? Yours?
They are staying in MY country and affecting MY rights.

[Swordsmyth]

The "savages" were not living in nations? That you stole property from? So you should be OK with somebody trying to steal property from you. "Survival of the fittest" and all that.
In a certain darwinian sense they are in the same position as our ancestors but not only has the world attempted to rise above the jungle but even in the jungle we have a right to resist just as those our ancestors displaced did.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

So people should not be deported for the sins of their parents. Good to know. http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535296-House-passes-bill-giving-Dreamers-path-to-citizenship-despite-Trump-veto-threat&p=6808001#post6808001

400 years ago? No, 40 years ago? Sure

[RestorationOfLiberty]

The "savages" were not living in nations? That you stole property from? So you should be OK with somebody trying to steal property from you. "Survival of the fittest" and all that.

They had no concept of ownership or property, never mind land for beads, right Chief lies alot?

No I would not be ok with it, which is happening RIGHT now.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Whose house are they staying in? Yours?

They have no right to enter a nation they are not a part of nor have permission, stop being a spreg.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

"But if you don't surrender my side won't be able to destroy you".

"But I value freedom. even if everything I claim to value is destroyed in the process, but I still value it"

[Zippyjuan]

They have no right to enter a nation they are not a part of nor have permission, stop being a spreg.

Who invited in your ancestors and freely handed over their property you said they seized? Were they part of the Native American nations? Crime is OK- if it is committed by you. Other people? No way!

[RestorationOfLiberty]

In a certain darwinian sense they are in the same position as our ancestors but not only has the world attempted to rise above the jungle but even in the jungle we have a right to resist just as those our ancestors displaced did.

This, we have a right to defend ourselves and the right to refuse all who would.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Who invited in your ancestors and freely handed over their property you said they seized? Were they part of the Native American nations?

And does that make the outcome any less real? No, it does not, stop being a spreg.

[Swordsmyth]

Who invited in your ancestors and freely handed over their property you said they seized? Were they part of the Native American nations? Crime is OK- if it is committed by you. Other people? No way!
He didn't commit any crime, the invaders do.

[Zippyjuan]

And does that make the outcome any less real? No, it does not, stop being a spreg.

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SPREG


SPREG
Acronym Definition
SPREG Scottish Parliament Renewable energy & Energy efficiency Group



https://www.definitions.net/definition/Spreg


Chaldean Numerology

The numerical value of Spreg in Chaldean Numerology is: 3

Pythagorean Numerology

The numerical value of Spreg in Pythagorean Numerology is: 2

Mmmm. Ok? I am a spreg?

[Zippyjuan]

He didn't commit any crime, the invaders do.

Like your ancestors. As you admitted. And so did he.

[Swordsmyth]

Like your ancestors. As you admitted. And so did he.
And just like those our ancestors took the land from we have a right and a duty to attempt to stop the invaders.

[Zippyjuan]

stop the invaders.

Back to the cliches. Ran out of ammo.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

He didn't commit any crime, the invaders do.

To anti whites like Juan (with a name like that its little wonder why he loves immigration "It could have been me left in a Latin slum of a nation, therefore everyone has to come here, so what if it ruins the nation?)) we commit a crime just by existing, refusing to allow in those who would rob and harm us from being able to rob and harm us...

[RestorationOfLiberty]

https://acronyms.thefreedictionary.com/SPREG




https://www.definitions.net/definition/Spreg



Mmmm. Ok? I am a spreg?


https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sperg%20out

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Back to the cliches. Ran out of ammo.

You wonder why your faction never achieve anything, its because of you and people like you.

[Zippyjuan]

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sperg%20out

So you could not even spell it correctly. But thanks for the link!

[RestorationOfLiberty]

So you could not even spell it correctly. But thanks for the link!

Way to point out things that do not matter, like a sperg.

[Swordsmyth]

Back to the cliches. Ran out of ammo.
Truth is eternal, you should try dealing in it.

[Zippyjuan]

Truth is eternal, you should try dealing in it.

And the standard guidebook reply to that one yet again.

[RestorationOfLiberty]

Truth is eternal, you should try dealing in it.

Truth harms lies and those who spew them...

[RestorationOfLiberty]

And the standard guidebook reply to that one yet again.

Coming from "But wait, this one time something happened, therefore we can not fix a major problem we face", I think its clear who the NPC is Juan.

[Swordsmyth]

And the standard guidebook reply to that one yet again.
Another admission that you can't win the argument.

[RonZeplin]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/68174382.jpg
realDonaldTrump :whiteflag:

[Swordsmyth]

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/68174382.jpg
@real (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=68777)DonaldTrump :whiteflag:
LOL

This thread is full of the evidence of your derangement.

[RonZeplin]

LOL

This thread is full of the evidence of your derangement.

:warning: "Bill of Love" amnesty in '21, if Trump is re-elected.

https://mondrian.mashable.com/uploads%252Fcard%252Fimage%252F767483%252F5e98169f-0c72-486f-85a9-b557b4072090.jpg%252F950x534__filters%253Aquality% 252890%2529.jpg?signature=rlBu16Gror_fqbd3jIrD1ost VMg=&source=https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com

Open Borders Sanctuary Nation USA, aka Aztlan :flashinglight:

[Swordsmyth]

:warning: "Bill of Love" amnesty in '21, if Trump is re-elected.
Nope.




https://mondrian.mashable.com/uploads%252Fcard%252Fimage%252F767483%252F5e98169f-0c72-486f-85a9-b557b4072090.jpg%252F950x534__filters%253Aquality% 252890%2529.jpg?signature=rlBu16Gror_fqbd3jIrD1ost VMg=&source=https%3A%2F%2Fblueprint-api-production.s3.amazonaws.com

I too like Mexican food and am not racist and that is all that tweet demonstrates.



Open Borders Sanctuary Nation USA, aka Aztlan :flashinglight:
Nope, he is doing more to stop those than any President since Ike.

[enhanced_deficit]

President Donald Trump sent a message to migrants and illegal immigrants looking to cross into the United States on the Southern border on Friday.

“The system is full whether its asylum, whether its illegal immigration, our country is full, our area is full, the sector is full, we can’t take you anymore,” Trump said. “I’m sorry, so turn around, that’s the way it is.”


Trump administration prepares to release Central American migrants 'across the entire nation' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535048-Trump-administration-prepares-to-release-Central-American-migrants-across-the-entire-nation&)


These two messages are only few days apart, won't that cause messaging confusion?


Also, can MAGA go against policies of his top funder on this issue?

How should messaging of extreme conservatives like Coulter be negated who called him a 'scam'? Conervative Brietbart has also used very controversial words.

Some hard right conservatives have been for a while claiming that his top funder and MAGA himself secretly agree with Dems plan and have implied that MAGA's America-First movement's top funder is liberal Adelson who used to fund Dems (until he decided that Dems were no longer sufficiently pro-Israel to his liking).

Adelson: Let’s Pass Immigration Reform (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?454313-Adelson-Let’s-Pass-Immigration-Reform&)

Ann Coulter attacks Adelson on immigration (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?449311-Ann-Coulter-attacks-Adelson-on-immigration-and-banning-online-gambling&)

Trump’s Patron-in-Chief (https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/sheldon-adelson-casino-magnate-trump-macau-and-japan/) Casino magnate Sheldon Adelson has never been more powerful. (https://features.propublica.org/trump-inc-podcast/sheldon-adelson-casino-magnate-trump-macau-and-japan/)
The Trump administration has advanced his ideological and financial interests.





Blaming MAGA for Border Rush (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?523212-GOP-Immigration-Deal-Potentially-%91Biggest%92-Amnesty-in-U-S-History&p=6641440&viewfull=1#post6641440)

Some in the past have tried to blame MAGA's messaging and tweets for accelerating border rush but he was trying to quickly resolve issues left unsolved by previous Dem administration and was by no means inviting more to join the pool before Congress acts. Critics like Breitbart writers, Coulter, Tucker etc have been too rough on MAGA on this.


https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/AJwG8tF1A2tVJ4fJb4rhTbNbVuI=/0x0:633x331/fit-in/1200x630/cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9245523/Screen_Shot_2017_09_14_at_10.41.46_AM.png

https://66.media.tumblr.com/22db3e85a27e15497786d80e5348b977/tumblr_p3gzmuEUPq1we4t2no1_640.png


Trump Appears to Endorse Path to Citizenship for Millions of Immigrants
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/u...migration.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/09/us/politics/trump-daca-immigration.html)
2 days ago - WASHINGTON — President Trump on Tuesday appeared open to negotiating a sweeping immigration deal that would eventually grant millions of undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship, declaring that he was willing to “take the heat” politically for an approach that seemed to flatly contradict the ...



Breitbart went too far:

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...94/982/125.jpg (https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/294/982/125.jpg)