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Swordsmyth
03-27-2019, 11:26 PM
A federal court in New York has rejected a constitutional challenge to President Donald Trump's executive order imposing tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, ruling that the move was premised on a lawful delegation of legislative authority.

The U.S. Court of International Trade, which has nationwide jurisdiction over civil actions arising out of the customs and international trade laws, said Monday (https://www.cit.uscourts.gov/sites/cit/files/19-37.pdf) that the law the administration used to impose the tariffs had already passed constitutional muster under a 1976 U.S. Supreme Court decision.

A group of steel importers had challenged the March 2018 tariffs, arguing that Section 232 of the Trade Expansion Act of 1962 violated the constitutional doctrine of the separation of powers by delegating congressional powers to the president without an "intelligible principle" for doing so.

The American Institute for International Steel Inc. and two member companies, Sim-Tex and Kurt Orban Partners, said that Section 232 gave the president a "limitless grant" of power to determine when executive actions are necessary for national security purposes, without any significant mechanism for review.

A three-judge panel of the court, however, said that the Supreme Court's 1976 decision in Federal Energy Administration v. Algonquin SNG had already decided that Section 232 met the "intelligible principle" standard because the scope of the law was limited to issues of national security.

In the court's ruling, Judge Claire P. Kelly noted that the line between regulation of trade in the name of national security and improper encroachment into the role of Congress "could be elusive in some cases." However, Kelly said those concerns fell beyond the court's purview, given the high court's ruling in Algonquin.

The plaintiffs argued that they should not be bound by the 1976 decision because Algonquinchallenged a specific remedy, and not the constitutionality of the underlying statute itself. The legal landscape for review of presidential actions had also shifted drastically since the previous case had been decided.

In a concurring opinion, Judge Gary S. Katzmann agreed that he and his colleagues were bound by the Supreme Court's earlier ruling, but said the constitutionality of the statute may need to be revisited.

"I respectfully suggest, however, that the fullness of time can inform understanding that may not have been available more than forty years ago. We deal now with real recent actions, not hypothetical ones," he wrote.

"If the delegation permitted by section 232, as now revealed, does not constitute excessive delegation in violation of the Constitution, what would?"

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/international-trade-court-upholds-constitutionality-052924993.html

Swordsmyth
03-27-2019, 11:32 PM
Chief executives from American steel producers urged lawmakers to maintain strong U.S. tariffs on the metal on Wednesday to protect their industry, as Senate efforts to rein in President Donald Trump's tariff powers gained steam.The CEOs of top U.S. steelmakers Nucor Corp, United States Steel Corp, ArcelorMittal SA and Commercial Metals Co told the Congressional Steel Caucus that the "Section 232" steel tariffs were just starting to allow their industry to recover from damage caused by years of dumped imports and needed to be kept in place long-term.


Little has been done to reduce excess steel production capacity in China that U.S. producers blame for most of the industry's woes, and without the tariffs, unfairly traded imports would flood back into the U.S. market, the executives said.
"Now is not the time to blink," U.S. Steel CEO David Burritt told the lawmakers at a hearing on Wednesday. "Section 232 must continue to be applied to all countries, especially the largest import sources, whether that's a tariff or a hard quota. Even our best allies can be conduits for foreign steel from China or elsewhere."
Canada and Mexico are trying to negotiate a plan to lift U.S. metals tariffs from their products. The Trump administration is demanding quotas to limit import volumes in lieu of tariffs, but Canada and Mexico are resisting.
Earlier this week, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer made little headway in a meeting to resolve the issue, a Canadian official told Reuters.
"There was not a meeting of the minds," the official said. "That of course is an opportunity for the minister to reflect and think about what our next steps are."


Several Republican U.S. senators are combining forces on legislation to limit Trump's ability to impose tariffs under Section 232 of the Cold War-era Trade Expansion Act of 1962.
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, who represents the farming state of Iowa, on Tuesday said he would lead the effort aimed at restoring Congress' constitutional authority over trade matters. His plan calls for Section 232 tariffs to be limited to a defined period of time unless extended by Congress.
United Steelworkers President Leo Gerard told the steel caucus lawmakers that Canada should be exempted from the Section 232 tariffs because of the high level of cross-border integration and common ownership in the industry. His union represents about 9,000 Canadian steel workers and 50,000 at U.S. mills.
But Representative Mike Bost, a Republican whose district saw U.S. Steel restart two blast furnaces and rehire 800 workers at its Granite City, Illinois mill last year, made clear that he was focused on rebuilding steelmaking capacity in the United States, not Canada.
"I want to let you know that the focus of this committee should be our U.S. workers," Bost said.
The steel executives also called on the lawmakers to boost U.S. demand for steel by passing a significant infrastructure investment package this year.

"Please let this year be the time to stop talking and start investing," said ArcelorMittal USA President John Brett.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/dont-blink-trump-tariffs-steel-ceos-tell-u-230025741--finance.html

TheTexan
03-27-2019, 11:54 PM
Was there ever any question? Of course its constitutional.

Under the vesting clause:
“The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.”

Which of course means that any executive powers not listed in the constitution are implicitly vested in Donald Trump, as long as it's done as an executive order. An administrative order on the other hand would be entirely unconstitutional.

Swordsmyth
03-27-2019, 11:57 PM
Was there ever any question? Of course its constitutional.

Under the vesting clause:
“The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America.”

Which of course means that any executive powers not listed in the constitution are implicitly vested in Donald Trump, as long as it's done as an executive order. An administrative order on the other hand would be entirely unconstitutional.
Where in the Constitution is Congress prohibited from delegating authority?

TheTexan
03-28-2019, 12:14 AM
Where in the Constitution is Congress prohibited from delegating authority?

Nowhere, congress absolutely has the power to delegate authority.

But the President also has the authority to delegate that power to himself.

Danke
03-28-2019, 12:31 AM
Nowhere, congress absolutely has the power to delegate authority.

But the President also has the authority to delegate that power to himself.


Have you ever thought about running for office?

Swordsmyth
03-28-2019, 12:33 AM
Have you ever thought about running for office?

Just think of all the voting he could do if he won.

TheTexan
03-28-2019, 12:52 AM
Have you ever thought about running for office?

I could see myself doing that. I wonder if there are any online political forums I could participate in and leverage to bootstrap my campaign. The online forums I'm part of currently are useless in actually getting people elected.


Just think of all the voting he could do if he won.

My voting would be glorious. Epic tales would be written.