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James_Madison_Lives
03-23-2019, 01:16 PM
They are naming names, including PNAC. Get out the popcorn.


https://hubpages.com/politics/Federal-Grand-Jury-Convened-to-Hear-Evidence-Omitted-by-911-Commission-Including-Explosions-Israeli-Agents


Federal Grand Jury Convened to Hear Evidence Omitted by 9/11 Commission, Including Explosions, Israeli Agents

A Special Federal Grand Jury has been convened to hear evidence and witnesses which were never addressed, or even included, in the 9/11 Commission Report, over the objections of victim family members such as Bob McIlvaine. McIlvaine's son Bobby was killed in the lobby of WTC1 by an explosive force which shattered thick construction-grade glass, which McIlvaine maintains could not have been caused by "fireballs" of kerosene, the central component of jet fuel, coming down the elevator shafts.

McIlvaine, other family members, and a consortium of architects, engineers, and other scientists and technical experts maintain that the pattern of destruction of three skyscrapers on 9/11 indicates that they were destroyed by controlled demolition, using pre-planted explosives and incendiaries. full>>> https://hubpages.com/politics/Federal-Grand-Jury-Convened-to-Hear-Evidence-Omitted-by-911-Commission-Including-Explosions-Israeli-Agents

Warrior_of_Freedom
03-23-2019, 01:20 PM
I don't always get my news from the internet, but when I do, I get it from hubpages.com

James_Madison_Lives
03-23-2019, 01:43 PM
I don't always get my news from the internet, but when I do, I get it from hubpages.com

Yea funny huh that the major media isn't covering this. Duh.

enhanced_deficit
03-23-2019, 03:09 PM
Two and two don't add up. If above claims were factual, why would an America-First leadership have stances like this:

Expert reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531152-Top-neocon-reverses-course-says-Trump-s-‘most-pro-Israel-president-ever’&)


If it were some AIPAC funded non-America-First leader executiging such policies, at least there can be some room for political bribery induced stances argument etc. But that is not the case with America-First leaders.

James_Madison_Lives
03-23-2019, 04:01 PM
Two and two don't add up. If above claims were factual, why would an America-First leadership have stances like this:

Expert reverses course, says Trump's ‘most pro-Israel president ever’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531152-Top-neocon-reverses-course-says-Trump-s-‘most-pro-Israel-president-ever’&)


If it were some AIPAC funded non-America-First leader executiging such policies, at least there can be some room for political bribery induced stances argument etc. But that is not the case with America-First leaders.

Trump is publicly pro-Israel but his stances are mostly symbolism don't change many facts on the ground. He hasn't given them what they really want which is an Assad overthrow which is why the Zionist media still hates him. Hillary would have been stumbling around Damascus by now.

Swordsmyth
03-23-2019, 04:10 PM
Trump is publicly pro-Israel but his stances are mostly symbolism don't change many facts on the ground. He hasn't given them what they really want which is an Assad overthrow which is why the Zionist media still hates him. Hillary would have been stumbling around Damascus by now.
^^^THIS^^^

I want him to do more, I want him to cut off their foreign aid etc. but he is better than many give him credit for even when it comes to Israel.

enhanced_deficit
03-23-2019, 04:47 PM
Trump is publicly pro-Israel but his stances are mostly symbolism don't change many facts on the ground. He hasn't given them what they really want which is an Assad overthrow which is why the Zionist media still hates him. Hillary would have been stumbling around Damascus by now.

From what I had read and it makes logical sense, besides the advrtized rhetoric what they really wanted was Assad to remain in power but bleed him to weakness and keep him engaged in fighting with ISIS ; they don't want a Sunni Islamic ruled regime next to them that will come to power if ISIS takes Assad out.


But these are material steps and not just symbolism, no America-First POTUS in US history has gone this far:



MAGA Endorsed Netnayahu (who lobbied US Congress to invade Iraq)
http://www.loonwatch.com/files/www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Netanyahu_Iraq_War.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/americanbuilt.us/images/911/911-netanyahu.jpg

MAGA appointed ZOA supported Bolton as NSA

MAGA put crippling US sanctions on Iran that was demand of Israel/Saudi lobbies

MAGA did not invite crew of USS Liberty to White House but hosted Dennis "If we don't support Israel, America as we know will not exist" Parger NeoconU's Candace Owens

GOP Senate’s First Bill, in Midst of Shutdown, to ensure $38B Aid to Israel and no boycotts (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529979-US-Senate’s-First-Bill-in-Midst-of-Shutdown-to-ensure-38B-Aid-to-Israel-and-no-boycotts&)

Trump says it's time for US to recognize 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532681-Trump-says-it-s-time-for-US-to-recognize-Israel-s-Sovereignty-over-the-Golan-Heights&)

Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532704-Top-US-General-Says-American-Troops-Should-Be-Ready-To-Die-For-Israel&)

https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/general%20israel.jpg
Brig.-Gen Zvika Haimovitch, the head of the IDF's Aerial Defense Division and US Air Force 3rd AF Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark. Image source: Jerusalem Post.



What would cause MAGA to cut foreign aid to everyone while increasing US taxpayers aid to the country that you're suggesting caused 9/11? (and in turn Iraq war/ deadly debt and loss of lives / massive influx of refugees for Europe/US etc)

What is driving him to take such "symbolic" steps in support of probably the most hated foreign country in the world ( a policy that according to US generals is against force protection measures and increase risks for US troops abroad)? In other words, what are America-First gains if any of such a policy?
Do such pro-Israel policies do not create blowback against America as reknowned CIA expert (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE_HKQ0epqk) MS stated?



Two and two don't add up for the untrained eye.

James_Madison_Lives
03-24-2019, 12:44 PM
From what I had read and it makes logical sense, besides the advrtized rhetoric what they really wanted was Assad to remain in power but bleed him to weakness and keep him engaged in fighting with ISIS ; they don't want a Sunni Islamic ruled regime next to them that will come to power if ISIS takes Assad out.


But these are material steps and not just symbolism, no America-First POTUS in US history has gone this far:



MAGA Endorsed Netnayahu (who lobbied US Congress to invade Iraq)
http://www.loonwatch.com/files/www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Netanyahu_Iraq_War.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/americanbuilt.us/images/911/911-netanyahu.jpg

MAGA appointed ZOA supported Bolton as NSA

MAGA put crippling US sanctions on Iran that was demand of Israel/Saudi lobbies

MAGA did not invite crew of USS Liberty to White House but hosted Dennis "If we don't support Israel, America as we know will not exist" Parger NeoconU's Candace Owens

GOP Senate’s First Bill, in Midst of Shutdown, to ensure $38B Aid to Israel and no boycotts (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529979-US-Senate’s-First-Bill-in-Midst-of-Shutdown-to-ensure-38B-Aid-to-Israel-and-no-boycotts&)

Trump says it's time for US to recognize 'Israel's Sovereignty over the Golan Heights' (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532681-Trump-says-it-s-time-for-US-to-recognize-Israel-s-Sovereignty-over-the-Golan-Heights&)

Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532704-Top-US-General-Says-American-Troops-Should-Be-Ready-To-Die-For-Israel&)

https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/inline-images/general%20israel.jpg
Brig.-Gen Zvika Haimovitch, the head of the IDF's Aerial Defense Division and US Air Force 3rd AF Commander Lt. Gen. Richard Clark. Image source: Jerusalem Post.



What would cause MAGA to cut foreign aid to everyone while increasing US taxpayers aid to the country that you're suggesting caused 9/11? (and in turn Iraq war/ deadly debt and loss of lives / massive influx of refugees for Europe/US etc)

What is driving him to take such "symbolic" steps in support of probably the most hated foreign country in the world ( a policy that according to US generals is against force protection measures and increase risks for US troops abroad)? In other words, what are America-First gains if any of such a policy?
Do such pro-Israel policies do not create blowback against America as reknowned CIA expert (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE_HKQ0epqk) MS stated?



Two and two don't add up for the untrained eye.



This Clark is the guy who said US troops could be placed under Israeli command

Top US General Says American Troops Should Be Ready To Die For Israel
(https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/top-us-general-says-american-troops-should-be-ready-die-israel)

Swordsmyth
09-26-2019, 08:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNIzC4a8rLs