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Zippyjuan
03-22-2019, 03:32 PM
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-sends-report-trump-investigation-ag-barr-n974006


Special counsel Robert Mueller on Friday wrapped up his nearly two-year investigation into Donald Trump and Russia and sent his report to Attorney General William Barr.

No details of Mueller's findings have been released, but Barr said he may be able to brief congressional leaders on the report as soon as this weekend.

"I am reviewing this report and anticipate that I may be in a position to advise you of the Special Counsel's principal conclusions as soon as this weekend," Barr wrote in a letter on Friday to a group of lawmakers on the House and Senate judiciary committees.

Barr also concluded in his letter that Mueller's investigation — relentlessly attacked as improper and a "witch hunt" by Trump — was conducted properly. Barr noted that he was required to inform congressional leader if Mueller had done anything "inappropriate or unwarranted."

"There were no such instances during the Special Counsel's investigation," the attorney general said, adding that he would determine how much of the report could eventually be released to Congress and the public.

Trump's outside lawyers, Rudy Giuliani and Jay Sekulow, issued a statement saying, "We're pleased that the Office of Special Counsel has delivered its report to the Attorney General pursuant to the regulations. Attorney General Barr will determine the appropriate next steps."

White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders said, "We're pleased that the Office of Special Counsel has delivered its report to the Attorney General pursuant to the regulations. Attorney General Barr will determine the appropriate next steps.” In a tweet, she said that the White House had not seen the report.

The transmission of the report to Barr concludes an investigation that has resulted in the indictments of 34 people, infuriated the president and thrown the administration into turmoil.

The long-awaited end to the probe comes almost two years after Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to investigate "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump" and "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation."

To date, almost three dozen people and three companies have been criminally charged in the sprawling probe, including Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn; former campaign chairman Paul Manafort; former political adviser Roger Stone; former personal lawyer Michael Cohen; and numerous Russian nationals. There have been a number of guilty pleas and convictions — but none of the charges have directly accused anyone in Trump's orbit of conspiring with the Russian intelligence operation to help Trump get elected in 2016.

It's unclear how detailed Mueller's report is, or when his conclusions may become public. According to Justice Department guidelines, his confidential report to the attorney general is supposed to explain "the prosecution or declination decisions reached by the special counsel."

The attorney general is required to report Mueller's findings to Congress "with an outline of the actions and the reasons for them," the guidelines say, but it's unclear how long that may take.

As the Mueller investigation picked up steam and various Trump associates were charged, the president increasingly went on the offensive, blasting it as a "witch hunt" and "a hoax," calling Mueller's investigators "angry Democrats" and singling out some who'd worked on the case. He labeled Cohen "a rat" for cooperating with investigators.

Trump refused to sit for an interview with Mueller — his lawyers said they were concerned about a "perjury trap" — but he did submit written responses to Mueller's questions in November.

Mueller was appointed special counsel on May 17, 2017 — eight days after Trump fired James Comey as FBI director. Comey had been leading the investigation into Russian meddling and any possible Trump campaign involvement. The president initially said he'd canned Comey at the urging of Rosenstein and then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions, but later told NBC "Nightly News" anchor Lester Holt it was his decision, and cited his frustration with the Russia probe.

"And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won," Trump told Holt.

That fueled law-enforcement concerns that Trump was trying to obstruct the investigation — worries that were heightened a day after the firing, when he hosted two Russian diplomats in the Oval Office.

"I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job," Trump told them, according to The New York Times. "I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off."

Those and other actions taken by the president since the probe began led Mueller to investigate whether Trump was trying to obstruct justice in the case, sources have told NBC News.

The FBI probe into the campaign's alleged Russia ties started in July 2016 after a little-known Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, George Papadopoulos, told an Australian diplomat that the Russians had obtained thousands of emails that would embarrass Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton. The Australian government passed that information on to the FBI after hacked Democratic National Committee emails were posted online.

That wouldn't be the only hack. Russian cybercriminals targeted Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta's emails, U.S. intelligence officials found. They were released online just hours after the "Access Hollywood" scandal threatened to sink Trump's campaign.

Adding to investigators' suspicions was Trump's often-abrasive deference to Russian President Vladimir Putin, who he repeatedly praised as "tough" and "strong." He was also dismissive of U.S. findings that Russia was behind the cybercrimes, noting, "It also could be somebody sitting on their bed that weighs 400 pounds, OK?"

Trump initially denied that he and his campaign had anything to do with any Russians — claims that have since fallen apart.

Flynn had sat with Putin at a dinner in Moscow in 2015, and would be fired from his job as national security adviser for misleading Vice President Mike Pence about the content of his conversations with a Russian diplomat. Cohen and Trump associate Felix Sater were in talks during the campaign to develop a Trump Tower in Moscow, which would reportedly come complete with a multimillion-dollar apartment for Putin. The president's son Donald Trump Jr. set up a meeting at Trump Tower with a Russian entourage after they offered unspecified "dirt" on Clinton’s campaign courtesy of the Kremlin.

"If it's what you say I love it," Trump Jr. said in accepting the meeting, which would include Manafort and Trump's son-in-law and adviser, Jared Kushner.

timosman
03-22-2019, 03:44 PM
Thank you Zippy for staying on top of things. This is quite fresh. :cool:

timosman
03-22-2019, 05:22 PM
https://twitter.com/BillOReilly/status/1109222119869763585

1109222119869763585

juleswin
03-22-2019, 05:28 PM
Could we all agree with Van Jones that this was a big nothing burger? This is why I cann't understand why anyone lie about this investigation.

timosman
03-22-2019, 05:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MJQsg0fn7I

Cleaner44
03-22-2019, 06:30 PM
Let the liberal tears flow...

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oyarde
03-22-2019, 07:18 PM
Mueller , what a joke . Your tax dollars at work .

Zippyjuan
03-22-2019, 07:25 PM
Everybody seems to know what is in the report- without it having even been released publicly yet.

oyarde
03-22-2019, 07:47 PM
Everybody seems to know what is in the report- without it having even been released publicly yet.

Maybe he should have drug it out a couple more yrs and see if he could find something to report .

timosman
03-22-2019, 07:50 PM
Everybody seems to know what is in the report- without it having even been released publicly yet.

Would you like fries with your nothing burger?

juleswin
03-22-2019, 07:58 PM
Everybody seems to know what is in the report- without it having even been released publicly yet.

So you're telling me there's still a chance?

spudea
03-22-2019, 08:36 PM
Everybody seems to know what is in the report- without it having even been released publicly yet.

Stay strong Zippy. #Muellerwillsaveus

timosman
03-22-2019, 10:40 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1109274990065713152

1109274990065713152

enhanced_deficit
03-22-2019, 11:38 PM
Could we all agree with Van Jones that this was a big nothing burger? This is why I cann't understand why anyone lie about this investigation.


Van Jones, who seems to be sort of replacing Kanye West in the MAGA team, is right about this.

But does this mean fakenews media, biased Dems and unelected Israeli (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532681-Trump-says-it-s-time-for-US-to-recognize-Israel-s-Sovereignty-over-the-Golan-Heights&p=6770884&viewfull=1#post6770884) Deputy AJ Rosenstein will give MAGA a fair shake or
will remain biased and still try to bring down an elected and wildly popular POTUS using tangential aspects as were used to impeach Bill Clinton?





Related

On the Mueller Investigation, the Barr Letter Is Not Enough

By John Cassidy
March 24, 2019

It took the White House about a half hour to start misrepresenting the contents of Attorney General William Barr’s letter to Congress about the results of the Mueller investigation. “The Special Counsel did not find any collusion and did not find any obstruction. AG Barr and DAG Rosenstein further determined there was no obstruction,” Sarah Sanders, the White House press secretary, tweeted shortly after 4 P.M. on Sunday. “The findings of the Department of Justice are a total and complete exoneration of the President of the United States.”

Actually, on the subject of Robert Mueller’s probe into whether Donald Trump obstructed justice, Barr’s letter said this: “The Special Counsel . . . did not draw a conclusion—one way or another—as to whether the examined conduct constituted obstruction.” The letter went on, “The Special Counsel states that, ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him.’ ” Barr’s letter, however, did contain a determination that Trump’s actions—which might include the firing of James Comey, the head of the F.B.I., and trying to fire Jeff Sessions, Barr’s predecessor—failed to rise to the level of obstruction of justice. But it was Barr and Rod Rosenstein, the Deputy Attorney General, who made that determination. As it has done so often in the past, the White House was lying, when it said that Mueller exonerated Trump on the obstruction question.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/barr-says-mueller-did-not-find-evidence-of-collusion-and-punted-on-obstruction-of-justice




http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/poll_posticon.gif Poll: Why Mueller did not exonerate POTUS on Obstruction Of Justice charge? (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?532799-Why-Mueller-did-not-exonerate-POTUS-on-Obstruction-Of-Justice-charge&)

ProBlue33
03-23-2019, 02:05 PM
https://i.redd.it/kjbf73ogbxn21.png

;):D

Brian4Liberty
03-23-2019, 02:23 PM
Considering the access to wiretaps and other personal information, I’d anticipate the report will include some salacious, but unindictable, tidbits to keep the media fed with outrage for the next two years.

enhanced_deficit
03-23-2019, 02:42 PM
https://i.redd.it/kjbf73ogbxn21.png

;):D

Mueller did not become sympathetic to any side during his probe, that looks like photoshop : - )


On a different note, vaguely recall reading some news few months back about Mueller referring someone trying to blackmail him to FBI. In quick look up same report did not show but few different stories popped up that might have indirect relationship to the main topic here.



Venture Capital‏
Venture Capital Retweeted Ariane Bellamar

https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f4a5.pngBOOMhttps://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f4a5.png Why is #BlackCube blackmailing the @nytimes https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/2049.png @comey please let Mueller know that there is a recorded call attesting to this fact. It sure explains the recent story on Rosenstein..

Ariane BellamarVerified account @ArianeBellamar
I have to question @nytimes motive on tonight’s story. I know, via my personal, recorded conversation with @jimrutenberg, that The Times has been under the threat of #BlackCube, weaponized against the #NYT by their very own law firm. It seems that they may have caved. @nytmike
8:53 PM - 21 Sep 2018

https://twitter.com/kelly2277/status/1043347461778092033




Un-Related

Trump Operatives Hired Israeli Dirty Ops Firm, Black Cube, to Dig Dirt on Obama’s Iran Team
May 7, 2018 by Richard Silverstein


Firm Linked to Israeli Intelligence Ran Pro-Trump Propaganda During Presidential Election
Rick Gates, the former deputy chairman of the Trump Campaign was allegedly in contact with an Israeli intelligence firm about a social-media disinformation campaign.
October 10th, 2018
Rick Gates, the former deputy chairman of the Trump Campaign was allegedly in contact with an Israeli intelligence firm about a social-media disinformation campaign targeted at Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton and to the benefit of Trump, according to the New York Times.
According to the NYT, Rick Gates contacted a company called Psy-Group which is filled with former Israeli intelligence operatives and offered results using social media tactics, for which traditionally Russia was accused during the 2016 Presidential Election.



New book claims Kushner pushed Trump to fire James Comey
A new book claims Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, prompted the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey, a decision that would trigger the start of Robert Mueller’s investigation just days later. Author and journalist Vicky Ward joins Alex Witt to discuss how her book “Kushner, Inc.” explores Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s rise to power.
March 23, 2019
https://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex-witt/watch/new-book-claims-kushner-pushed-trump-to-fire-james-comey-1463713859582



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The Nothing Burger vs The Invisible Burger

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Origanalist
03-23-2019, 03:20 PM
Would you like fries with your nothing burger?

https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/956299855567175680

TER
03-23-2019, 03:33 PM
Oh happy day

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/man-holds-a-sign-that-reads-happy-no-collusion-day-while-people-a-picture-id1132291444

Stratovarious
03-23-2019, 03:50 PM
Mueller did not become sympathetic to any side during his probe, that looks like photoshop : - )


On a different note, vaguely recall reading some news few months back about Mueller referring someone trying to blackmail him to FBI. In quick look up same report did not show but few different stories popped up that might have indirect relationship to the main topic here.



https://twitter.com/kelly2277/status/1043347461778092033




Un-Related

Trump Operatives Hired Israeli Dirty Ops Firm, Black Cube, to Dig Dirt on Obama’s Iran Team
May 7, 2018 by Richard Silverstein


Firm Linked to Israeli Intelligence Ran Pro-Trump Propaganda During Presidential Election
Rick Gates, the former deputy chairman of the Trump Campaign was allegedly in contact with an Israeli intelligence firm about a social-media disinformation campaign.
October 10th, 2018
Rick Gates, the former deputy chairman of the Trump Campaign was allegedly in contact with an Israeli intelligence firm about a social-media disinformation campaign targeted at Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton and to the benefit of Trump, according to the New York Times.
According to the NYT, Rick Gates contacted a company called Psy-Group which is filled with former Israeli intelligence operatives and offered results using social media tactics, for which traditionally Russia was accused during the 2016 Presidential Election.



New book claims Kushner pushed Trump to fire James Comey
A new book claims Jared Kushner, the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser, prompted the firing of then-FBI Director James Comey, a decision that would trigger the start of Robert Mueller’s investigation just days later. Author and journalist Vicky Ward joins Alex Witt to discuss how her book “Kushner, Inc.” explores Kushner and Ivanka Trump’s rise to power.
March 23, 2019
https://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex-witt/watch/new-book-claims-kushner-pushed-trump-to-fire-james-comey-1463713859582



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The Nothing Burger vs The Invisible Burger

https://admin62b4b.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/download-15-2-1.png

I agree, but it not only 'looks' like , but is a photoshop or another type of photo edit software.

nikcers
03-23-2019, 04:06 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1109274990065713152

1109274990065713152

Honestly I had hoped the left would of apologized to their viewers for what I can only describe as treason but I guess they want everyone to know they are fake news. They are pretending like this is not a big deal but they are so out of touch with reality I bet they don't realize that they are destroying every last bit of credibility they have

enhanced_deficit
03-23-2019, 04:09 PM
I agree, but it not only 'looks' like , but is a photoshop or another type of photo edit software.

You're right, it's pretty much impossible for Mueller to be seen wearing a MAGA hat LOL


Ssilverelining here maybe that "The Nothing Burger" vs "The Invisible Burger" controversies should be put to rest soon after this bizarre investigation taking up space in national consciousness for two years. One of the actors whose actions reportedly triggered Mueller investigation may also be soon leaving White House and goung back to NY.

"Donald Trump Wants Jared Kushner to Move Back Home to NYC" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517242-quot-Donald-Trump-Wants-Ivanka-and-Jared-Kushner-to-Move-Back-Home-to-NYC-quot&)


Kushner Cos. Scaling Back in New York as Public Scrutiny Heats Up
March 19, 2019
Kushner Cos. left its suburban roots behind years ago to pursue big property investments in New York City. Now, under fire from New York politicians and tenant activists, it is increasingly turning back to the ’burbs.


Looking forward, hopefully both major parties can now come together and work on America-First agenda without any foreign-first collusion lobbies/lengthy investigations wasting national time and dsitracting focus.

Swordsmyth
03-23-2019, 04:12 PM
WikiLeaks Raising $1 Million For Leaked Copy Of Mueller Report (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-23/wikileaks-raising-1-million-leaked-copy-mueller-report)

Stratovarious
03-23-2019, 04:43 PM
You're right, it's pretty much impossible for Mueller to be seen wearing a MAGA hat LOL


Ssilverelining here maybe that "The Nothing Burger" vs "The Invisible Burger" controversies should be put to rest soon after this bizarre investigation taking up space in national consciousness for two years. One of the actors whose actions reportedly triggered Mueller investigation may also be soon leaving White House and goung back to NY.

"Donald Trump Wants Jared Kushner to Move Back Home to NYC" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517242-quot-Donald-Trump-Wants-Ivanka-and-Jared-Kushner-to-Move-Back-Home-to-NYC-quot&)




Looking forward, hopefully both major parties can now come together and work on America-First agenda without any foreign-first collusion lobbies/lengthy investigations wasting national time and dsitracting focus.

The shame is , even though it was a 'nothing burger' witch hunt, and true conspiracy, the triggered
liberals for the most part will never let go of it, and in their minds there was GUILT.


Further shame (personally) I have lost all faith now in Trump, as of this last week.
I have also long ago given up on our Justice system, no one at the top, those that do the
most damage to America ever goes to prison , ergo Hillary, Comey et al, now with Trump on my sht list, I see
no hope for the Country (again this is my personal feeling) I like Rand , but don't see
him beating Trump , my first choice of course would be Ron Paul, but we know
that bridge is out of service.
I'm just skimming stones, now.......nothing I do is going to change what we're faced with.

phill4paul
03-23-2019, 05:08 PM
The shame is , even though it was a 'nothing burger' witch hunt, and true conspiracy, the triggered
liberals for the most part will never let go of it, and in their minds there was GUILT.


Further shame (personally) I have lost all faith now in Trump, as of this last week.
I have also long ago given up on our Justice system, no one at the top, those that do the
most damage to America ever goes to prison , ergo Hillary, Comey et al, now with Trump on my sht list, I see
no hope for the Country (again this is my personal feeling) I like Rand , but don't see
him beating Trump , my first choice of course would be Ron Paul, but we know
that bridge is out of service.
I'm just skimming stones, now.......nothing I do is going to change what we're faced with.



My last and only choice would be if Thomas Massie decided to run. I'd even put on door-to-door walking shoes for him. But, I doubt he cares to. I just know his level headedness and solid conviction would make him a stand-out to either of the extremes that have become the left and right. But, again, I don't ever see him running for POTUS.

Stratovarious
03-23-2019, 05:59 PM
My last and only choice would be if Thomas Massie decided to run. I'd even put on door-to-door walking shoes for him. But, I doubt he cares to. I just know his level headedness and solid conviction would make him a stand-out to either of the extremes that have become the left and right. But, again, I don't ever see him running for POTUS.

I don't actually know anything about Massie , just familiar with the name.

I used to like Andrew Napolitano, I don't even trust him anymore......:frog:

phill4paul
03-23-2019, 07:04 PM
I don't actually know anything about Massie , just familiar with the name.

I used to like Andrew Napolitano, I don't even trust him anymore......:frog:

Massie is awesome. ALWAYS votes with the Constitution. Exposes D.C. corruption and informs in how politics works there. Owns his own farm that is energy independent, but doesn't believe the Fed should mandate conservationism over conservativism. Doesn't tweet like a psycho crazy. Just a good guy, with a great family, straight and on the level with every vote. He's one of what is called the "three amigos" that being Rand, Amash and Massie.
As far as I am concerned he is the best of the three. ALWAYS Constitutional. Never pandering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsYk4kL0vAw

Origanalist
03-23-2019, 07:11 PM
https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/956348456300597248

Stratovarious
03-23-2019, 07:34 PM
Massie is awesome. ALWAYS votes with the Constitution. Exposes D.C. corruption and informs in how politics works there. Owns his own farm that is energy independent, but doesn't believe the Fed should mandate conservationism over conservativism. Doesn't tweet like a psycho crazy. Just a good guy, with a great family, straight and on the level with every vote. He's one of what is called the "three amigos" that being Rand, Amash and Massie.
As far as I am concerned he is the best of the three. ALWAYS Constitutional. Never pandering.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsYk4kL0vAw

Very impressive, I've watched 17 mins so far.
One thing puzzling though is that our Military (see; Geraldo Rivera Afghanistan youtube) supports
the poppy fields, protects them or at least did , and they did so very openly, Massey is not talking
about that , could be that he covers that later in the video, or just wasn't aware.

phill4paul
03-23-2019, 07:42 PM
Very impressive, I've watched 17 mins so far.
One thing puzzling though is that our Military (see; Geraldo Rivera Afghanistan youtube) supports
the poppy fields, protects them or at least did , and they did so very openly, Massey is not talking
about that , could be that he covers that later in the video, or just wasn't aware.

Massie doesn't get into that kinda stuff generally. He stays on point. Either it is Constitutional or it is not. Which is why I like him.

timosman
03-23-2019, 08:12 PM
https://twitter.com/krassenstein/status/1109470227887210496

1109470227887210496

TER
03-23-2019, 09:44 PM
Massie is the closest to Ron Paul in DC.

ProBlue33
03-24-2019, 09:34 AM
Nice one

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/files/img/tk5c979b9f.png

Zippyjuan
03-24-2019, 11:53 AM
With the Mueller report finished, Trump did not spend the day ranting about the investigation. He only posted two tweets today.

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Schifference
03-24-2019, 12:53 PM
Mueller is colluding with the Democrats. The investigation was drawing too much attention to Trump. The election is approaching and they don't want this lingering. Democrats can claim for 3 years this or that. Now Trump cannot say anything except what a bum McCain was.

enhanced_deficit
03-24-2019, 08:40 PM
Mueller Finds No Trump-Russia Conspiracy, but Stops Short of Exonerating President on Obstruction

Mr. Mueller’s team drew no conclusions about whether Mr. Trump illegally obstructed justice, Mr. Barr said, so he made his own decision. The attorney general and his deputy, Rod J. Rosenstein, determined that the special counsel’s investigators had insufficient evidence to establish that the president committed that offense.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/u...t-summary.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/24/us/politics/mueller-report-summary.html)



Famed Jeffrey Epstein's and OJ Simpson's star lawyer has turned the tables on Mueller after reading this letter apparently:

Dershowitz says 'shame on Mueller'
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/der...counsel-copout

enhanced_deficit
03-24-2019, 10:47 PM
Fakenews media at it again:


Dow futures point to 100-point gain after Mueller finds Trump campaign did not conspire with Russia (http://www.themarketdigest.org/dow-futures-point-to-100-point-gain-after-mueller-finds-trump-campaign-did-not-conspire-with-russia-168693/)

CNBC
The findings from former special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation are in and investors think they can boost stock prices.



https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/?symbol=.N225



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enhanced_deficit
03-24-2019, 11:10 PM
Everybody seems to know what is in the report- without it having even been released publicly yet.



Advance positive signals were there for all to see, so perhaps people got an idea happy news was ahead:



https://en.mogaznews.com/temp/resized/medium_2019-03-23-b231f8a7b9.jpg

Trump plays golf with Kid Rock at Mar-a-Lago as speculation mounts over Mueller



PS: media had been advised to not publish unflattering, double chin photos etc but seems like they can't help themselves and don't miss a chance to attack MAGA's alpha-male image.

enhanced_deficit
03-25-2019, 10:29 PM
Might be relevant here also.


This does not seem like obstruction of justice that is the topic of much of criticism since release of report:


March 24, 2019
Barr added that when he and Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein reviewed the full report, the pair concluded that the evidence is “not sufficient”...




Trump retweets meme calling for imprisonment of his own deputy attorney general

By Aaron Rupar Nov 28, 2018

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/IyRSfHau-jJLUhBrUwKeQ3lso1A=/1400x1050/filters:format(jpeg)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/13586038/2.jpg

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...-obama-mueller (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/28/18115986/trump-retweets-meme-imprisonment-rosenstein-obama-mueller)


Michael Cohen's lawyer accuses Rudy Giuliani of 'witness tampering

He also said that “calling out a man's father-in-law and wife in order to intimidate the witness is not fair game and it needs to be investigated.”
Davis didn’t spare Trump either.
The lawyer said the president “indisputably intimidates and obstructs justice to prevent a witness from testifying.”
https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...nged/23651875/ (https://www.aol.com/article/news/2019/01/24/michael-cohens-lawyer-accuses-rudy-giuliani-of-witness-tampering-calls-him-unhinged/23651875/)


On Eve of Michael Cohen’s Testimony, Republican Threatens to Reveal Compromising Information

“Hey @michaelc (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=42954)ohen212 - Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot,” Mr. Gaetz said on Twitter (https://twitter.com/mattgaetz/status/1100503846386835456).
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/26/u...testimony.html



Mueller refers sex misconduct scheme targeting him to FBI for investigation

Oct. 30, 2018By Brandy Zadrozny, Ben Collins and Tom Winter
Special counsel Robert Mueller last week asked the FBI to investigate a possible scam in which a woman would make false claims that he was guilty of sexual misconduct and harassment, after several political reporters were contacted about doing a story on the alleged misconduct.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...gation-n926301 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/mueller-refers-sex-assault-scheme-targeting-him-fbi-investigation-n926301)


Firm Linked to Israeli Intelligence Ran Pro-Trump Propaganda
Oct 10, 2018 - According to the NYT, Special Counsel Robert Mueller who ... had been revealed that Trump's team hired another Israeli spy firm – Black Cube.

Israeli spies tried to get dirt on Obama aides tied to the Iran deal
May 7, 2018 - Black Cube, a secretive Israeli intelligence firm enlisted by disgraced Hollywood producer Harvey Weinstein to undermine women who made ...
https://www.vox.com/world/2018/5/7/17327278/ben-rhodes-black-cube-iran-deal

timosman
03-27-2019, 01:32 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnKK5NnPJcQ

susano
03-27-2019, 03:25 PM
The shame is , even though it was a 'nothing burger' witch hunt, and true conspiracy, the triggered
liberals for the most part will never let go of it, and in their minds there was GUILT.


Further shame (personally) I have lost all faith now in Trump, as of this last week.
I have also long ago given up on our Justice system, no one at the top, those that do the
most damage to America ever goes to prison , ergo Hillary, Comey et al, now with Trump on my sht list, I see
no hope for the Country (again this is my personal feeling) I like Rand , but don't see
him beating Trump , my first choice of course would be Ron Paul, but we know
that bridge is out of service.
I'm just skimming stones, now.......nothing I do is going to change what we're faced with.

While I've continued to get riled up and think, possibly, maybe somehow, something can turn the ship around (Ron Paul, Trump, whatever is available), I've mostly thought, for the last ten years, that you can't fix Satanic. That's where we are and have been for a long time and the most likely scenario is some kind of crash and burn. What comes after that is anybody's guess because this is not the 1700s and there will be no founding fathers. That was a completely unique intersection of circumstances and people in the time-space continuum and it's long past.

TheTexan
03-27-2019, 03:29 PM
Was Mueller colluding with the Russians when he was writing the report??

susano
03-27-2019, 03:30 PM
My last and only choice would be if Thomas Massie decided to run. I'd even put on door-to-door walking shoes for him. But, I doubt he cares to. I just know his level headedness and solid conviction would make him a stand-out to either of the extremes that have become the left and right. But, again, I don't ever see him running for POTUS.

I must say that I'm guilty of not following people's records so help me out here. Why is he so popular here? I live in west Michigan and in his campaign literature he sent out, he was talking the usual socialist shit about more money for schools! WTFF??? Further, his latest big thing is making vaping illegal for anyone under 18, which I totally oppose.

EDIT!!!

My mistake. I was thinking of my state rep, Thomas Albert.

Swordsmyth
03-27-2019, 03:54 PM
I must say that I'm guilty of not following people's records so help me out here. Why is he so popular here? I live in west Michigan and in his campaign literature he sent out, he was talking the usual socialist $#@! about more money for schools! WTFF??? Further, his latest big thing is making vaping illegal for anyone under 18, which I totally oppose.
I have no idea about that but his record is excellent:

Name: Thomas Massie
Congress: Kentucky, District: 4, Republican
Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 99%
More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=828&nameid=M001184

TheTexan
03-27-2019, 03:55 PM
The shame is , even though it was a 'nothing burger' witch hunt, and true conspiracy, the triggered
liberals for the most part will never let go of it, and in their minds there was GUILT.


Further shame (personally) I have lost all faith now in Trump, as of this last week.
I have also long ago given up on our Justice system, no one at the top, those that do the
most damage to America ever goes to prison , ergo Hillary, Comey et al, now with Trump on my sht list, I see
no hope for the Country (again this is my personal feeling) I like Rand , but don't see
him beating Trump , my first choice of course would be Ron Paul, but we know
that bridge is out of service.
I'm just skimming stones, now.......nothing I do is going to change what we're faced with.

The problem is simply that so very few people have accepted the reality of the situation. And even fewer have the stomach to do what needs to be done.

We're all wasting our time here blabbering on about nonsense, when we should be calling our congressmen, writing petitions, and waving signs over freeways. But that is "hard work" and so few people have the courage & strength to do these things.

Change will not happen until we accept this reality and accept that drastic measures are necessary. Voting at the poll booth once every 2 years used to be enough but I expect much better from people on this forum. We should be voting in every election, not just the major ones.





It's all about taking action and not being lazy. So you do the work, whether it's fitness or whatever. It's about getting up, motivating yourself and just doing it.

susano
03-27-2019, 04:18 PM
I have no idea about that but his record is excellent:

Name: Thomas Massie
Congress: Kentucky, District: 4, Republican
Cumulative Freedom Index Score: 99%
More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=828&nameid=M001184

Forgive my stupidity. I had him mixed with my state rep, Thomas Albert. Wish I could say it's too much weed but I don't smoke, lol.

Swordsmyth
03-27-2019, 04:20 PM
Forgive my stupidity. I had him mixed with my state rep, Thomas Albert. Wish I could say it's too much weed but I don't smoke, lol.
Everybody makes mistakes.:)

susano
03-27-2019, 04:44 PM
The problem is simply that so very few people have accepted the reality of the situation. And even fewer have the stomach to do what needs to be done.

We're all wasting our time here blabbering on about nonsense, when we should be calling our congressmen, writing petitions, and waving signs over freeways. But that is "hard work" and so few people have the courage & strength to do these things.

Change will not happen until we accept this reality and accept that drastic measures are necessary. Voting at the poll booth once every 2 years used to be enough but I expect much better from people on this forum. We should be voting in every election, not just the major ones.

WWKKD?

TheTexan
03-27-2019, 04:45 PM
WWKKD?

+rep

Stratovarious
03-27-2019, 04:47 PM
While I've continued to get riled up and think, possibly, maybe somehow, something can turn the ship around (Ron Paul, Trump, whatever is available), I've mostly thought, for the last ten years, that you can't fix Satanic. That's where we are and have been for a long time and the most likely scenario is some kind of crash and burn. What comes after that is anybody's guess because this is not the 1700s and there will be no founding fathers. That was a completely unique intersection of circumstances and people in the time-space continuum and it's long past.

Our founding fathers were a great gift , it's a shame that so many are willing to ignore their wisdom
and turn their backs on their inspired efforts.

Stratovarious
03-27-2019, 05:01 PM
The problem is simply that so very few people have accepted the reality of the situation. And even fewer have the stomach to do what needs to be done.

We're all wasting our time here blabbering on about nonsense, when we should be calling our congressmen, writing petitions, and waving signs over freeways. But that is "hard work" and so few people have the courage & strength to do these things.

Change will not happen until we accept this reality and accept that drastic measures are necessary. Voting at the poll booth once every 2 years used to be enough but I expect much better from people on this forum. We should be voting in every election, not just the major ones.

I appreciate your point of view and used to think that we can make a difference if we do 'those things'
things I still do sans the street sign sort of thing.

I don't believe any of that makes a difference anymore, look what I got after I supported Trump ,
I got craped on ''Big League''.


The only thing that would stand a chance of making a difference today is a United Green Vest uprising
across America , and I don't see that changing anything in the long run.

We never lock up the criminals at the top , George Carlin was right , we're fkd.

You're right;
This forum is entertainment mostly , that's all I see it as , so , yea I'm wasting my
time here if I think I'm doing anything productive for the Country, I'm not.
Short of a pretty good revolution, nothing will change.

susano
03-27-2019, 05:04 PM
Our founding fathers were a great gift , it's a shame that so many are willing to ignore their wisdom
and turn their backs on their inspired efforts.

Yes, they were great but reality is something continually created and there weren't enough like and brilliant minds to sustain what they did. For whatever reason, there seems to be an endless supply of Bolshevik wannabe minions, though. Again, Satan. It's this realm of existence we inhabit and it's not going to change. Yeah, it ebbs and flows and has peaks and valleys but it's still, in the long run, always Groundhog Day. Or the Kali Yuga, which is, still, Groundhog Day, lol.

susano
03-27-2019, 05:40 PM
I appreciate your point of view and used to think that we can make a difference if we do 'those things'
things I still do sans the street sign sort of thing.

I don't believe any of that makes a difference anymore, look what I got after I supported Trump ,
I got craped on ''Big League''.


The only thing that would stand a chance of making a difference today is a United Green Vest uprising
across America , and I don't see that changing anything in the long run.

We never lock up the criminals at the top , George Carlin was right , we're fkd.

You're right;
This forum is entertainment mostly , that's all I see it as , so , yea I'm wasting my
time here if I think I'm doing anything productive for the Country, I'm not.
Short of a pretty good revolution, nothing will change.

Here's the deal: what it all comes down to is being a good person. I mean in that in the most self aware, constantly introspective, challenging sense. Only goodness begets goodness. Obviously, there is a lack of that and our world reflects it. I do think that individual consciousness has risen, in that regard, but only slightly. The outright evil and corruption is so in our faces that people are beginning to look at morality more than the past few decades. We, as a nation, fell into a moral sewer, like interwar Berlin or Sodom and Gomorrah or Babylon, etc. Only spiritual growth can correct anything but we have to keep on walking that hard path and it's internal. Whatever happens with the outer world, it will crumble and fade like the material world always does but we live on so have to keep climbing out of the sewer. Where does calling one's congressman fit into that? I'd say it's kind of neutral thing and not the main point.

Stratovarious
03-27-2019, 06:14 PM
Here's the deal: what it all comes down to is being a good person. I mean in that in the most self aware, constantly introspective, challenging sense. Only goodness begets goodness. Obviously, there is a lack of that and our world reflects it. I do think that individual consciousness has risen, in that regard, but only slightly. The outright evil and corruption is so in our faces that people are beginning to look at morality more than the past few decades. We, as a nation, fell into a moral sewer, like interwar Berlin or Sodom and Gomorrah or Babylon, etc. Only spiritual growth can correct anything but we have to keep on walking that hard path and it's internal. Whatever happens with the outer world, it will crumble and fade like the material world always does but we live on so have to keep climbing out of the sewer. Where does calling one's congressman fit into that? I'd say it's kind of neutral thing and not the main point.

Congressmen for the most part are intelligent , they're never impressed by even the most
articulate of callers or writers, I think when they see a million emails , it might get a little
attention , but I don't put too much stock in that either.
I agree with 'morality' , that is good for us in our own lives, we live until 'they' decide we're
expendable, our morality won't save us, only coincidence and 'good times' , the short window,
of it saves us, circumstance, good 'weather' .

We know for a fact now , or at least I do , 'Voting harder' achieves nothing, as I've said earlier,
look what I got for my efforts; Trump, not the Trump of '16, the fantastic promises Trump, rather the Trump of today
the Israel firster, the roll over and pretend Hillary is a 'nice person' , due process after we 'take the guns' .....

enhanced_deficit
03-27-2019, 06:49 PM
So Deep State won or lost?
Rumors of secret understanding being reached on foreign wars/globalism/Syria/Venezuela etc are not confirmed by MSM. Going by old reports, MAGA team was opposed to Venezuela intervention/Syria stay.

susano
03-27-2019, 07:03 PM
Congressmen for the most part are intelligent , they're never impressed by even the most
articulate of callers or writers, I think when they see a million emails , it might get a little
attention , but I don't put too much stock in that either.
I agree with 'morality' , that is good for us in our own lives, we live until 'they' decide we're
expendable, our morality won't save us, only coincidence and 'good times' , the short window,
of it saves us, circumstance, good 'weather' .

We know for a fact now , or at least I do , 'Voting harder' achieves nothing, as I've said earlier,
look what I got for my efforts; Trump, not the Trump of '16, the fantastic promises Trump, rather the Trump of today
the Israel firster, the roll over and pretend Hillary is a 'nice person' , due process after we 'take the guns' .....

And, here's the bad news: Trump is all we've got. It's Trump or Satan (doesn't matter which one of the Ds).

susano
03-27-2019, 07:09 PM
So Deep State won or lost?
Rumors of secret understanding being reached on foreign wars/globalism/Syria/Venezuela etc are not confirmed by MSM. Going by old reports, MAGA team was opposed to Venezuela intervention/Syria stay.

That's a tough one. We'd need to see a legit list of what Trump has been able to do that is anti globalist. Paris climate accords; TPP come to mind. It's been a fail at the border if articles I keep seeing are true about thousands of illegals being released into the country every week. Syria would be far worse with a globalist pres. What else? I think the most important result is moving the needle against the Trotskyites.

Swordsmyth
03-27-2019, 07:24 PM
Justice Department insiders just dropped a massive bomb on Robert Mueller, revealing his Special Counsel team concluded MONTHS BEFORE the 2018 midterm elections there was no proof linking Donald Trump or his campaign to colluding with Russians during the presidential election.
Yet Mueller did not divulge his team’s findings until this week, five months after the 2018 midterm elections.
“The most important portions of the investigation were concluded in August (2018),” a high-ranking Justice Department official said. “(Rod) Rosenstein was briefed and it was common gossip and well-known nothing had been pinned on Trump and it was wrapping up.”
August 2018, in fact, is three months before the Nov. 2018 elections, where and when all of the Democrats running against Republicans for House and Senate seats used Trump’s fabricated ties with Russia as campaign platforms. And they won and won big at the cost of the Republicans. And on the back of a massive lie.
Meanwhile, Mueller sat on his team’s intelligence that cleared Trump of any and all allegations involving Russia and colluding or working with Russia to facilitate the defeat of Hillary Clinton. And likewise, Rosenstein and former Attorney General Jeff Sessions also did not push for Mueller to release the results of his team’s probe.


“This was well known by late summer,” another higher Justice Department official said. “(Andrew) Weissmann was frustrated there wasn’t anything substantive to use against Trump so he wanted to put his son under the microscope.”
Weissmann, an unethical DOJ prosecutor nicknamed “the pit bull,” has made a career out of inventing evidence to railroad defendants into criminal indictments. Ask anyone in DC. This is common knowledge. Working as Mueller’s top dog on this team did not prove any different.



Weissmann was up to his old tricks, DOJ insiders said.
Weissmann then pushed for charges against the president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. But that move was ultimately vetoed, insiders revealed. Trump Jr., at best or at worst — depending on which Fed agent you talk to — used poor judgment during a sit down with Russian-linked politicos at Trump Tower in 2016 but he had done nothing criminal that FBI agents assigned to Mueller’s team could conclude.
But Weissmann, along with Clinton-linked prosecutor Jeannie Rhee who worked with Weissmann to lead the Mueller team, believed there was enough to indict Trump Jr., “even if it didn’t stick,” one official said.
The thought or strategy here, according to insiders, was the indictment of Trump Jr. would prove an effective chess move to force his father to sit down for an interview with Mueller’s team. And again, that was whether Trump Jr. was ultimately cleared at trial or not, it didn’t matter. They were prepared to drag Trump Jr. through the mud either way.
This is how these people work. They are nefarious, bad operators.
If President Trump made one single gaffe during such interview with Mueller’s ethically-challenged squad, it could have been distorted into violating some federal law, any federal law, one Justice Department said.
The leverage game is a mainstay at the Justice Department when a target of a probe declines to cooperate or thumbs their nose at Justice prosecutors as President Trump did. Mueller and Weissmann, after all, had used the same exact tactic against Gen. Mike Flynn, threatening to indict his son if Flynn did not plead out.
And it worked like a charm.
Flynn pleaded out to a single charge of lying to the FBI. His son was never indicted.
One Justice Department official said the behavior of Mueller’s team, particularly withholding actionable intelligence on Trump’s innocence prior to the 2018 elections, should be investigated by a new Special Counsel.
Weissman mysteriously announced his retirement from the Justice Department just days before details of Mueller’s report were made public this week.
Strange timing indeed.
You do the math. Appoint a new Special Prosecutor to investigate the old special prosecutor. ~ Thomas Paine reporting from Washington D.C.


https://truepundit.com/massive-doj-leak-reveals-mueller-finished-trump-russia-probe-months-before-2018-elections-kept-silent-while-dems-swept-midterms/

angelatc
03-29-2019, 10:18 AM
For the record, Kerr is pretty much one of us. https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/1110743768230232065

1110743768230232065


And for giggles... (https://twitter.com/MonicaLewinsky/status/1110768987539791872)1110768987539791872

Danke
03-30-2019, 07:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=210&v=alt5kD7ei1I

timosman
04-03-2019, 11:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT7T71ngX5s

timosman
04-05-2019, 07:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIT4n4swHlU

timosman
04-15-2019, 08:08 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rM5Z6ME5FOU

enhanced_deficit
04-16-2019, 01:01 PM
Here we go again:

Should William Barr Recuse Himself From Mueller Report? Legal Experts Say Attorney General's Ties to Russia Are Troubling

By Cristina Maza On 4/15/19 at 3:30 PM EDT
https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/embed_tablet/public/2019/04/12/perbarr011084905694.jpg Melina Mara/The Washington Post/Getty Share

U.S.
Here they go again.
Attorney General William Barr is already under fire for his March letter to Congress, which reported the results of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation in a way many feel was mostly beneficial to President Donald Trump.
Now, Democrats are taking aim at Barr’s recent congressional testimony in which he slipped in his opinion that federal law enforcement officials may have “spied” on his boss’ successful presidential run.
But if that wasn’t enough, some experts argue that Barr’s previous work in the private sector could conflict with his continuing supervision of the investigation into Russian tampering in the 2016 election campaign.
Why? A few of Barr’s previous employers are connected to key subjects in the probe. And some argue that, even if Barr didn’t break any rules, his financial ties to companies linked to aspects of the Russia investigation raise questions about whether he should—like his predecessor, Jeff Sessions—recuse himself.

https://www.newsweek.com/so-many-conflicts-so-little-time-1396435

Schifference
04-16-2019, 03:37 PM
Nothing gets done these days. Republicans should remember how the Democrats roll. I call bullchit on the entire process. Something has to change.

timosman
04-17-2019, 07:02 PM
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1118655464282234880

1118655464282234880

timosman
04-17-2019, 09:17 PM
https://twitter.com/HouseJudiciary/status/1118686689361264646

1118686689361264646

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 09:23 PM
https://twitter.com/HouseJudiciary/status/1118686689361264646

1118686689361264646
What are they afraid of?

timosman
04-17-2019, 09:24 PM
What are they afraid of?

It's gonna be a shitshow tomorrow. :tears:

timosman
04-17-2019, 10:02 PM
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1118652805269655554

1118652805269655554

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 10:09 PM
https://twitter.com/emptywheel/status/1118652805269655554

1118652805269655554
Trump is torturing them on purpose, it's going to be hillaryous when it is all said and done.

timosman
04-17-2019, 10:12 PM
Trump is torturing them on purpose, it's going to be hillaryous when it is all said and done.

Rosenstein joining Barr tomorrow is a nice touch. Is there any hope? :tears:

timosman
04-17-2019, 10:23 PM
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/439234-ten-post-mueller-questions-that-could-turn-the-tables-on-russia-collusion


04/17/19

Soon, the dust will settle from special counsel Robert Mueller’s report, and Americans will have a fuller understanding of why prosecutors concluded there wasn’t evidence to establish that Donald Trump and Russia colluded to hijack the 2016 election.

At that point, many voters exhausted by the fizzling of a two-year scandal, once billed as the next Watergate, will want to move on like a foodie from an empty-calorie shake.

But a very important second phase of this drama is about to begin, as Attorney General William Barr, Department of Justice (DOJ) Inspector General Michael Horowitz and Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) put the Russia collusion investigators under investigation.

Their work will be, and must be, far more than just a political boomerang.

It must answer, in balanced terms, whether the FBI was warranted in using the most awesome powers in the U.S. intelligence arsenal to spy on Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s campaign at the end of the 2016 election.

Investigators must determine, with neutrality, whether the bureau improperly colluded with paid agents of Democratic rival Hillary Clinton’s campaign — Fusion GPS and its British operative, Christopher Steele — and then tried to hide those political ties and other evidence from the nation’s secret intelligence court.

For the likes of FBI castoffs James Comey, Andrew McCabe and Peter Strzok, or Obama-era intelligence bosses John Brennan and James Clapper, there will be the additional uncomfortable reality that the Russia collusion narrative that they so publicly weaved through testimony, TV appearances, for-profit books and leaks, turned out to be as unsubstantiated as the Loch Ness monster.

The process of meting out accountability has begun.

Horowitz, my sources tell me, has interviewed between 50 and 100 witnesses in his exhaustive probe. Graham and his predecessor as Judiciary chairman, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa), laid out the most important investigative issues they saw in a letter last year. This month, former House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) sent a letter to DOJ identifying eight potential criminal referrals. His committee last year also released a memo on abuses of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) that may have occurred during the Russia probe.

And President Trump reportedly is readying an order to declassify five key buckets of documents on alleged FBI abuses.

My sources agree these 10 questions are the most important to be answered in the forthcoming probes:

1.) When did the FBI first learn that Steele’s dossier was funded by the Clinton campaign and the Democratic Party and written by a partisan who, by his own admission, was desperate to defeat Trump? Documents and testimony I reviewed show senior DOJ official Bruce Ohr first told his colleagues about Steele’s bias and connections to Clinton in late summer 2016. Likewise, sources tell me a string of FBI emails — some before the bureau secured its first surveillance warrant — raised concerns about Steele’s motive, employer and credibility.

2.) How much evidence of innocence did the FBI possess against two of its early targets, Trump campaign advisers George Papadopoulos and Carter Page? My sources tell me that agents secured evidence of the innocence of both men from informants, intercepts and other techniques that was never disclosed to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court judges in the case. I'm told learning exactly the sort of surveillance used on Page also may surprise some people.

3.) Why was the Steele dossier used as primary evidence in the FISA warrant against Page when it had not been corroborated? FBI testimony I reviewed shows agents had just begun checking out the dossier when its elements were used as supporting evidence, and that spreadsheets kept by the bureau during the verification process validated only small pieces of the dossier while concluding other parts were false or unprovable. And, of course, former FBI lawyer Lisa Page admitted that, after nine months of investigation, the dossier’s core allegation of Trump-Russia collusion could not be substantiated.

4.) Why were Steele’s biases and his ties to the Clinton campaign — as well as evidence of innocence and flaws in the FISA evidence — never disclosed to the FISA court, as required by law and court practice?

5.) Why did FBI and U.S. intelligence officials leak stories about evidence in the emerging Russia probe before they corroborated collusion, and were any of those leaks designed to “create” evidence that could be cited in the courts of law and public opinion to justify the continuation of a flawed investigation?

6.) Did Comey improperly handle classified information when he distributed memos of his private conversations with Trump to his lawyers and a friend and ordered a leak that he hoped would cause the appointment of a special counsel after his firing as FBI director?

7.) Did the CIA, FBI or Obama White House engage in activities — such as the activation of intelligence sources or electronic surveillance — before the opening of an official counterintelligence investigation against the Trump campaign on July 31, 2016?

8.) Did U.S. intelligence, the FBI or the Obama administration use or encourage friendly spy agencies in Great Britain, Australia, Ukraine, Italy or elsewhere to gather evidence on the Trump campaign, leak evidence, or get around U.S. restrictions on spying on Americans?

9.) Did the CIA or Obama intelligence apparatus try to lure or pressure the FBI into opening a Trump collusion probe or acknowledge its existence before the election? Text messages between alleged FBI lovebirds Strzok and Page raised concerns about “pressure” from the White House, the “Agency BS game,” DOJ leaks and the need for an FBI “insurance policy.” And, as Strzok texted at one point in August 2016, quoting a colleague: “The White House is running this.”

10.) Did any FBI agents, intelligence officials or other key players in the probe provide false testimony to Congress? McCabe already has been singled out by the inspector general for lying about a media leak to an internal DOJ probe, and evidence emerged this year that calls into question Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson’s testimony about his contacts with Ohr.

If Barr, Horowitz and Graham can answer these questions and release the still-secret evidence underlying their conclusions, Americans finally will have the wherewithal to answer the most troubling of all the questions raised about the Russia collusion narrative:

Was this a case of bureaucratic bungling, or an intentional effort to use the U.S. intelligence community for a political dirty trick aimed at defeating Trump at the polls and, later, delegitimizing his election?

It’s a question we all should want to be answered.

Swordsmyth
04-17-2019, 10:24 PM
Rosenstein joining Barr tomorrow is a nice touch. Is there any hope? :tears:
I have great hopes of reveling in the lamentations of their women.

EBounding
04-18-2019, 07:31 AM
I'm loving the DRAMA and INTRIGUE! But the most important thing is how will it impact THE VOTE????

timosman
04-18-2019, 07:58 AM
https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1118875140060696576

1118875140060696576

ATruepatriot
04-18-2019, 08:13 AM
Trump cleared and exonerated of any intent. Did anyone catch Barr's comments about Wikileaks? No implication or evidence against those receiving information compared to the actual physical hacker of the information. Looks like he might let Assange off the hook. :)

Schifference
04-18-2019, 08:45 AM
Should Trump team initiate spying on 2020 presidential candidates?

I thought liberals were against conspiracy theory's.

enhanced_deficit
04-18-2019, 12:42 PM
Dem leaders walk into a burger joint.. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?533564-The-Mainstream-Media-Are-Not-Handling-The-Zero-Collusion-Conclusion-Well&p=6783625&viewfull=1#post6783625)

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 02:43 PM
Trump cleared and exonerated of any intent. Did anyone catch Barr's comments about Wikileaks? No implication or evidence against those receiving information compared to the actual physical hacker of the information. Looks like he might let Assange off the hook. :)

:up:

spudea
04-18-2019, 04:05 PM
there will be a lot of drama and Dems cherry picking things out of context to keep the witch hunt going, but the bottom line is no crimes were committed by the President.

Schifference
04-18-2019, 04:54 PM
I would not want to be president. Screw that. If I were Trump I would not go back to work after the weekend.

phill4paul
04-18-2019, 05:23 PM
I would not want to be president. Screw that. If I were Trump I would not go back to work after the weekend.

Lol. He's sitting high on the hog. No collusion, No obstruction. The more Dems push this shit the more they look like idiots. Now the thing is...does he push for an investigation into why FRAUD upon the FISA court was committed by the Obama Admin. FBI and how high THAT went. Or does he negotiate for some of his campaign promises? The ball is in his court. If I were him I'd be letting Pelosi know "things are gonna go my way for awhile, or shit's really gonna get fucked up."

Schifference
04-18-2019, 05:25 PM
Lol. He's sitting high on the hog. No collusion, No obstruction. The more Dems push this $#@! the more they look like idiots. Now the thing is...does he push for an investigation into why FRAUD upon the FISA court was committed by the Obama Admin. FBI and how high THAT went. Or does he negotiate for some of his campaign promises? The ball is in his court. If I were him I'd be letting Pelosi know "things are gonna go my way for awhile, or $#@!'s really gonna get $#@!ed up."

I agree that he won but I don't think it is worth it. Declare victory and walk away. He doesn't need the aggravation.

Schifference
04-18-2019, 05:26 PM
Winning is still losing. I wouldn't want that job or grief.

Schifference
04-18-2019, 05:31 PM
I would think Ron sits back and is grateful he is not the POTUS.

tod evans
04-18-2019, 05:43 PM
Ben Swan


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=DWLhgUMWJY4

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 08:12 PM
BUSTED BY COURT DOCS: Mueller Claimed He Could Not Locate Roger Stone Set-Up Agent Who Was Recently In US Court! (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/busted-by-court-docs-mueller-claimed-he-could-not-locate-roger-stone-set-up-agent-who-was-recently-in-us-court/)

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 08:21 PM
Q
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ID: 3dec0b
No.6228198 (https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/6227990.html#6228198)

Apr 18 2019 14:52:02 (EST)

(https://qanon.pub/#t1555617122) MUELLER BLOCKADE END.
Fake investigations by committee members will not delay what is about to be unleashed.
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I just love it that Zippy posted this thread.:D

Swordsmyth
04-18-2019, 08:23 PM
https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1118947182286184449

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Schifference
04-19-2019, 05:21 AM
https://youtu.be/IMekzZjC4lE

enhanced_deficit
04-19-2019, 06:06 AM
Don't have time to watch his video but good to see America-First neocon Levin is back on Foxnews, been ages since heard his voice during Iraq/Bush/Cheney cheerleading days. Had read he compared Trump to Obama when he thought Trump was getting out of Syria. Hopefully Trump will shock him again and walk back Iran tensions escalations.

timosman
04-20-2019, 10:44 PM
Apr 20, 2019

Never before I have seen so many people unhappy over good news.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0ze9d72_U

timosman
04-20-2019, 11:07 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUfg4OmlJbw



https://video.foxnews.com/v/6028454497001/



Watters’ World - Saturday, April 20

41:05 - On today’s episode of Watters World, Jesse Watters and his guests talk about investigating the investigators. They also discuss the Democrats dilemma to impeach and moving on after the Mueller report.

timosman
06-04-2019, 11:54 PM
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1136148393426923520

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