Today in Libertarian Dramaworld, a Pedo is Exposed

[angelatc]

Video here: if someone knows hoe to capture it then by all means, do so. I suspect Facebook will be taking it down. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1515712035229683

In said video, anarchist author Sean Windingland is talking to a girl, whom I believe is his daughter. Maybe 6-8 years old? He asks her for consent to film the interaction. Then he tells her this is about what happened earlier, when they talked about if she was were wanting to be sexual with him, indicating that she initially said yes. She's clearly uncomfortable in the video, and she approaches the camera and whispers she doesn't want to any more.

He then tell her that he's perfectly ok that she doesn't want to do that any more.

Facebookers say that the kids are now safe, and the authorities are seeking Windingland.

[angelatc]

This video is even worse. https://www.facebook.com/NotGov/videos/pcb.10155960841621776/10155960836686776/?type=3&theater

[specsaregood]

What a freak. Why the hell would he tape that?

[Origanalist]

The first link requires a login, the second won't play with my shields up. Probably just as well. Sounds like a sick fuck.

[Danke]

Google search says his apartment is just blocks away from where I park going to work...

[TheTexan]

Sick fuck indeed. Dude clearly has mental problems. I hope he gets the help he needs to fix his anarchy issues, plus whatever pedo issues he may have. The two are probably related.

[devil21]

Sick fuck indeed. Dude clearly has mental problems. I hope he gets the help he needs to fix his anarchy issues, plus whatever pedo issues he may have. The two are probably related.

You're not tryin' to say that angelatc is attempting a smear by association tactic, are ya? Naaa, couldn't be that.

[Anti Globalist]

Pedophiles are the scum of the earth.

[Anti Federalist]

Pedophiles are the scum of the earth.

Who are you to judge, you cis-normative, ageist shitlord?

Love is love, amirite?

[angelatc]

You're not tryin' to say that angelatc is attempting a smear by association tactic, are ya? Naaa, couldn't be that.

The rest of us are gagging about the pedophile and your gut response is that it's somehow my fault. Get help.

[nikcers]

Sick $#@! indeed. Dude clearly has mental problems. I hope he gets the help he needs to fix his anarchy issues, plus whatever pedo issues he may have. The two are probably related.
I don't think I have met one anarchist in all of these years just libertarians. So you can go ahead and target anarchists all you want I don't have any tribalistic ties with them.

[angelatc]

Who are you to judge, you cis-normative, ageist shitlord?

Love is love, amirite?

I know you don't do fb but I couldn't figure out how to download it. Suffice to say it's probably some of the creepiest crap I've ever seen.

[nikcers]

I know you don't do fb but I couldn't figure out how to download it. Suffice to say it's probably some of the creepiest crap I've ever seen.
Are you saying it's NSFW?

[angelatc]

I don't think I have met one anarchist in all of these years just libertarians. So you can go ahead and target anarchists all you want I don't have any tribalistic ties with them.



LIghten up. It isn't an attack on the collective. All of here except Zippy know he's an outlier. Pretty sure mental defects cross all party lines.

[angelatc]

Are you saying it's NSFW?

Probably not something you want co-workers to hear. Visually it's just a guy talking to his daughter. It's what he says that makes the skin of normal people crawl.

[nikcers]

LIghten up. It isn't an attack on the collective. All of here except Zippy know he's an outlier. Pretty sure mental defects cross all party lines.
Honestly never met an anarchist- plus an anarchist would just want to get rid of any limited government a libertarian would want I don't see them as political allies to liberty because you have to have government to protect liberty. Iraq had anarchy how well did that work when ISIS came in there.

[angelatc]

Google search says his apartment is just blocks away from where I park going to work...

How does that make you feel...

[juleswin]

That was very uncomfortable, why would anyone play that sort of game with child and even worse why post it on the internet? I am hoping there is another explanation to this video because this looks bad.

[Origanalist]

Honestly never met an anarchist- plus an anarchist would just want to get rid of any limited government a libertarian would want I don't see them as political allies to liberty because you have to have government to protect liberty. Iraq had anarchy how well did that work when ISIS came in there.

WUt?

[nikcers]

WUt?
Mostly the people prepping for a government collapse buying up guns and ammo and stuff that I have met weren't cheering for it to collapse they wanted Ron Paul because they wanted him to stop a collapse.

[Origanalist]

Mostly the people prepping for a government collapse buying up guns and ammo and stuff that I have met weren't cheering for it to collapse they wanted Ron Paul because they wanted him to stop a collapse.

I was referring to Iraq. But your point about government protecting liberty is laughable.

[nikcers]

I was referring to Iraq. But your point about government protecting liberty is laughable.
Protecting liberty is the only role for government they are just doing a bad job. Iraq didn't have ISIS until we toppled their government. You don't think we would have the same thing here if our government toppled?

[Origanalist]

Protecting liberty is the only role for government they are just doing a bad job. Iraq didn't have ISIS until we toppled their government. You don't think we would have the same thing here if our government toppled?

Hardly. This isn't Iraq, yet. If the gun grabbers get their way (they won't) we would be ripe for whoever got here first. Iraq didn't have anarchy, Iraq was powerless because of us.

[nikcers]

Hardly. This isn't Iraq, yet. If the gun grabbers get their way (they won't) we would be ripe for whoever got here first. Iraq didn't have anarchy, Iraq was powerless because of us.
This continent has been invaded multiple times before we gained independence. There would be a power vacuum and we would be in a civil war like Iraq was. ISIS didn't pop up out of nowhere it was a civil war, we would have extremists pushing a final solution because those people exist in our country. Americans are children of men who have done genocide on this continent and people don't learn from history.

[acptulsa]

Hardly. This isn't Iraq, yet. If the gun grabbers get their way (they won't) we would be ripe for whoever got here first. Iraq didn't have anarchy, Iraq was powerless because of us.

Arguably, the U.S. gave them the gift of anarchy, then filled the void with the CI--er, I mean ISIS.

[CCTelander]

Hardly. This isn't Iraq, yet. If the gun grabbers get their way (they won't) we would be ripe for whoever got here first. Iraq didn't have anarchy, Iraq was powerless because of us.


A failed state =/= ordered, voluntarily chosen anarchy.

[Origanalist]

Arguably, the U.S. gave them the gift of anarchy, then filled the void with the CI--er, I mean ISIS.

They gave them no gift, they went from a population with a strongman ruler to being a conquered country without enough presence on hand to enforce it. And yes, it was us that created the dreaded IS-ISIS-whatever. Putting up Iraq as a example of anarchy is ridiculous. You might as well bomb Beijing into oblivion and call that anarchy.

[Origanalist]

A failed state =/= ordered, voluntarily chosen anarchy.

Exactly.

[acptulsa]

You might as well bomb Beijing into oblivion and steal all the ancient treasures of their culture and call that anarchy.

Fixed that for you.

[TheTexan]

Arguably, the U.S. gave them the gift of anarchy

We did destroy a lot of their roads & infrastructure. So, yes they were in a state of anarchy for a while at least until ISIS rebuilt the roads/infrastructure.

[nikcers]

They gave them no gift, they went from a population with a strongman ruler to being a conquered country without enough presence on hand to enforce it. And yes, it was us that created the dreaded IS-ISIS-whatever. Putting up Iraq as a example of anarchy is ridiculous. You might as well bomb Beijing into oblivion and call that anarchy.
I don't really know if there is a more realistic real world scenario. Any country without a government would get picked apart by countries in Europe and Asia, even if they are armed to the teeth like ISIS

[Origanalist]

I don't really know if there is a more realistic real world scenario. Any country without a government would get picked apart by countries in Europe and Asia, even if they are armed to the teeth like ISIS

So what you're saying is that without our warlords/overlords the other warlords/overlords would take over.

[nikcers]

So what you're saying is that without our warlords/overlords the other warlords/overlords would take over.
I am saying that the founders designed the country with as little government as possible. I am not saying it's not possible for anarchy to work, it probably would of worked great before boats and planes were invented.

[Superfluous Man]

I am saying that the founders designed the country with as little government as possible.

Where did you get that idea?

The main reason for the Constitution was to increase the size of the federal government because those who favored it considered the one that then existed under the AOC to be too small.

I have trouble seeing how a government that's as small as possible would have room in it for a socialized postal system, like the Constitution authorizes.

[acptulsa]

Where did you get that idea?

The main reason for the Constitution was to increase the size of the federal government because those who favored it considered the one that then existed under the AOC to be too small.

I have trouble seeing how a government that's as small as possible would have room in it for a socialized postal system, like the Constitution authorizes.

Arguably, the people who founded the country designed the Articles of Confederation.

Also, we're arguably going to have to type out Articles of Confederation for the foreseeable future, as AOC has become a four letter word.

[Superfluous Man]

Arguably, the people who founded the country designed the Articles of Confederation.

Also, we're arguably going to have to type out Articles of Confederation for the foreseeable future, as AOC has become a four letter word.

Both are good points.

As to the former though, it highlights the problem of referring to "the founders" as if they were a monolithic group.

[specsaregood]

So what you're saying is that without our warlords/overlords the other warlords/overlords would take over.

I think what he is saying is that man's natural state is to be ruled by warlords. As it is as it ever will be.

[acptulsa]

I think what he is saying is that man's natural state is to be ruled by warlords. As it is as it ever will be.

Is there any other explanation for Trumpcucks?

[Origanalist]

I think what he is saying is that man's natural state is to be ruled by warlords. As it is as it ever will be.

It's not my natural state. All traditions aren't necessarily good or inevitable. You could make the case that there has always been slavery, that doen't mean you have to accept it as a inevitable state of man.

[nikcers]

It's not my natural state. All traditions aren't necessarily good or inevitable. You could make the case that there has always been slavery, that doen't mean you have to accept it as a inevitable state of man.
Slavery is the opposite of voluntarism you can have contracts without slavery you can have limited government without unlimited force. This argument is worse than the left when they say libertarians are anarchists.

[Origanalist]

Slavery is the opposite of voluntarism you can have contracts without slavery you can have limited government without force. This argument is worse than the left when they say libertarians are anarchists.

Limited government without force? Do tell. And what does having contracts without slavery have to do with anything? Entering into a contract has nothing to do with slavery. Limited government without force is not possible. Government is force.

[nikcers]

Limited government without force? Do tell.
Lol I corrected that a bit but I still think that it's true. We could have something close as possible to that by having a sound currency and repealing the income tax. If they want to go to war they would have to have it funded by the people with a voluntary militia seperate from the military. We couldn't have it without a bill of rights that can't be infringed. A right to speech, bare arms and privacy would be a start.

[Origanalist]

Lol I corrected that a bit but I still think that it's true. We could have something close as possible to that by having a sound currency and repealing the income tax. If they want to go to war they would have to have it funded by the people with a voluntary militia seperate from the military. We couldn't have it without a bill of rights that can't be infringed. A right to speech, bare arms and privacy would be a start.

The funny thing about government is on the whole it never seems to shrink. It may reverse in small temporary fits but continues to expand nonetheless. Ron Paul is as close as we came to your scenario in my lifetime, do you see this ever happening now?

[Philhelm]

We did destroy a lot of their roads & infrastructure. So, yes they were in a state of anarchy for a while at least until ISIS rebuilt the roads/infrastructure.

Yes, they were in great pain, but then we cut of their heads and drove stakes through their hearts and they're all better!

[specsaregood]

It's not my natural state. All traditions aren't necessarily good or inevitable. You could make the case that there has always been slavery, that doen't mean you have to accept it as a inevitable state of man.

I don't think it is just tradition, it's a biological need for order.

[nikcers]

The funny thing about government is on the whole it never seems to shrink. It may reverse in small temporary fits but continues to expand nonetheless. Ron Paul is as close as we came to your scenario in my lifetime, do you see this ever happening now?
I don't think it's impossible, I think that it is possible. I think socialism could never happen. Life is too short to think of it in terms of human lifetimes. I don't think you or I or Ron Paul can do it because this is a battle of ideas that has gone on for centuries. I agree with you that we probably can't do it in our lifetimes but our efforts could lead to a domino effect where it becomes possible in the future.

[Origanalist]

I don't think it is just tradition, it's a biological need for order.

Order is fine, others ordering you not so much. Once power is accepted and established that "order" can and does take some really bad turns.

[devil21]

The rest of us are gagging about the pedophile and your gut response is that it's somehow my fault. Get help.

I think you should get help. Your constant libertarian derangement syndrome is ridiculous. This is the US Politics forum and this thread has nothing whatsoever to do with US Politics. You obviously posted it here to associate "anarchists" and "libertarians" with some random alleged pedo where it would get a lot of views. Of all of the issues to discuss, post about or share, both of your threads yesterday were nothing but smear attempts.

Maybe you can post more threads about how great the federal income tax is or how the CIA should be overthrowing foreign leaders. That's your bread and butter lately aside from smear attempts.

[specsaregood]

Order is fine, others ordering you not so much. Once power is accepted and established that "order" can and does take some really bad turns.

And I still say its the natural state of man.

[nikcers]

And I still say its the natural state of man.
Power corrupts and men always seek more power. Maybe we are not intelligent enough to solve this problem yet and one day someone or some thing is able to solve it?

[specsaregood]

Power corrupts and men always seek more power. Maybe we are not intelligent enough to solve this problem yet and one day someone or some thing is able to solve it?

Some would say intelligent, others would say spiritual or moral. It reminds me of the interview where Ron Paul was asked if he was a Voluntaryist and he said something to the effect that he hoped we could get their someday. I think he was clearly referring to society's spiritual or moral growth. Unfortunately, I think we are heading in the opposite direction.

[Swordsmyth]

And I still say its the natural state of man.
It is and it takes some minimum level of government to control it.

[timosman]

society's spiritual or moral growth

:tears: :rolleyes:

[Swordsmyth]

:tears: :rolleyes:
It exists, but so does society's spiritual and moral decline, humans seem to be range bound.

[Anti Federalist]

I know you don't do fb but I couldn't figure out how to download it. Suffice to say it's probably some of the creepiest crap I've ever seen.

I'm sure it was.

I am really wondering how the next front in the war of weirdosexualism, which is the normalization of prepubescent pedophilia, is going to play out.

Is anything out of bounds or off limits?

[Swordsmyth]

I'm sure it was.

I am really wondering how the next front in the war of weirdosexualism, which is the normalization of prepubescent pedophilia, is going to play out.

Is anything out of bounds or off limits?
NOTHING.

Then they will start to demand that everyone participate.

[nikcers]

Some would say intelligent, others would say spiritual or moral. It reminds me of the interview where Ron Paul was asked if he was a Voluntaryist and he said something to the effect that he hoped we could get their someday. I think he was clearly referring to society's spiritual or moral growth. Unfortunately, I think we are heading in the opposite direction.
I think the biggest lessons in life are given to us in pieces and it's possible to solve the puzzle without all the pieces but when we can't it's because we don't have the ability and sometimes we need more pieces. The biggest clue that we are not yet ready for liberty is most people don't know what it is. I think the first step to liberty has to be a majority of people knowing what it is. The next step is a majority of people have to really want it to happen. I think we cant change people but people have to want change.

[nikcers]

I'm sure it was.

I am really wondering how the next front in the war of weirdosexualism, which is the normalization of prepubescent pedophilia, is going to play out.

Is anything out of bounds or off limits?
I think the major push to not let kids be kids isn't sexual at all. I think maybe there are some weirdos out there but for the most part it's probably designed so that they can put kids to work and get cheaper and more labor out of the population. Between this and using it to take down organizations and institutions that challenge the power structure. Most people associate Catholic priests as pedos nowadays not people of the cloth. they go to a shrink instead of a priest and buy more pills that make them more like cattle.

[A Son of Liberty]

A failed state =/= ordered, voluntarily chosen anarchy.

1. I'm out of rep for you, sir.

2. "BLARG BLARG SOMALIA BLARG BLARG RABBLE RABBLE"

3. It doesn't even seem to matter anymore...

[oyarde]

Personally I am fine with the whole warlord thing as long as I am the sole Chief running it .

[nikcers]

Personally I am fine with the whole warlord thing as long as I am the sole Chief running it .
Unity is the antidote to slavery. Maybe all men have to be free before one can truly know liberty.

[Swordsmyth]

Unity is the antidote to slavery. Maybe all men have to be free before one can truly know liberty.
Unity is impossible, too many people want to enslave others.

Anarchy fails for the same reason communism fails, it requires a new breed of perfected men and it tries to pretend that it already has one.

[nikcers]

Unity is impossible, too many people want to enslave others.

Anarchy fails for the same reason communism fails, it requires a new breed of perfected men and it tries to pretend that it already has one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06a19-S77F4

[CCTelander]

1. I'm out of rep for you, sir.

2. "BLARG BLARG SOMALIA BLARG BLARG RABBLE RABBLE"

3. It doesn't even seem to matter anymore...


Oh, it matters. But I don't invest a lot of time in arguing about it any more. People around here have grown so pessimistic, fatalistic and just plain accepting of perpetual victimhood that they really aren't capable of seeing let alone embracing a more optimistic viewpoint. That and the fact that many have such a twisted view of humanity make it pointless to try to present a more positive perspective. IMO, of course.

[Anti Federalist]

Anarchy fails for the same reason communism fails, it requires a new breed of perfected men and it tries to pretend that it already has one.

I believe it is possible.

It may take several more centuries, but one can hope.

It will not be possible unless some core truths are held.

Like this, written from a Nigerian's perspective:


There is something unusual about the psychological makeup of white people. It can be metaphorically described as an inner compass. Due to that inner compass, white people need very little external force or punishment. They do not need much policing, so people can apply their potential to useful activities rather than wasting time donning a uniform and swinging a night-stick.

The absence of this inner compass is why, in Nigeria, no number of police officers can enforce traffic laws at an intersection. Indeed, most traffic enforcers and police officers routinely break the laws they are supposed to uphold (and still insist on taking a bribe at every random stop).

While this inner compass has tremendous advantages for white society, one disadvantage is that members of that inwardly guided culture are prone to tremendous torments of conscience that make them vulnerable to manipulation. There seems to be a miasma of guilt inherent to the very fabric of Western culture, a feeling of inadequacy for failing to measure up to one’s internal yardstick.

Although slavery was a universal phenomenon that preceded the US, no black, Arab or Asian man ever seems to experience racial guilt because of it.

I have no idea just how far down the rabbit hole of insanity this suicidal phenomenon of white guilt will go. One thing I do know is that most cultures, especially Eastern ones, suffer little to none of the white man’s inner conundrums and have zero patience for the social shakedowns and inefficiency of black culture.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530879-IL-Gay-black-actor-beaten-bleached-attackers-shout-quot-This-is-MAGA-country!-quot&p=6770215&viewfull=1#post6770215

[euphemia]

This is why liberty does NOT mean doing whatever you want. Somewhere there is a millstone with that guy’s name on it (Mt 18).

[UWDude]

All that pedo/incest shit is a conspiracy.

[Swordsmyth]

I believe it is possible.

It may take several more centuries, but one can hope.

It will not be possible unless some core truths are held.

Like this, written from a Nigerian's perspective:



http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530879-IL-Gay-black-actor-beaten-bleached-attackers-shout-quot-This-is-MAGA-country!-quot&p=6770215&viewfull=1#post6770215
It will require a reformation of the entire human race, I believe that that will only come when Christ returns and brings us his kingdom.

I'll believe it when I see it if it comes any other way.

[angelatc]

I think you should get help. Your constant libertarian derangement syndrome is ridiculous. This is the US Politics forum and this thread has nothing whatsoever to do with US Politics. You obviously posted it here to associate "anarchists" and "libertarians" with some random alleged pedo where it would get a lot of views. Of all of the issues to discuss, post about or share, both of your threads yesterday were nothing but smear attempts.

.

If you didn't disappear for years on end, you'd already know that I was against the law and order posts being in general politics, but that's what was decided. I put it here because that's where the mods decided these things should go.

Lay off the liquor already.

[angelatc]

This is why liberty does NOT mean doing whatever you want. Somewhere there is a millstone with that guy’s name on it (Mt 18).

Yeah, I'm going to get negs for this but I'm not a libertine. Guys like this are why. Even the anarchists have plans for dealing with this type of stuff though, so it would just end up being government by another name. It always has, and I suppose guys like this are why.

[devil21]

If you didn't disappear for years on end, you'd already know that I was against the law and order posts being in general politics, but that's what was decided. I put it here because that's where the mods decided these things should go.

Lay off the liquor already.

Projection, quite obviously. I have never disappeared for years on end so if you think so, it's actually your senility and drunken stupors affecting your perception. You're a terrible person, you always have been and you just reinforce it every time you post. You should be absolutely ashamed of yourself using that little girl's apparent trauma to score political points against libertarians.


Hey mods wake the fuck up and do your job. This thread has no business in this subforum.

[DamianTV]

Sick fuck indeed. Dude clearly has mental problems. I hope he gets the help he needs to fix his anarchy issues, plus whatever pedo issues he may have. The two are probably related.

Insurance will decline it citing it as an "unnecessary procedure".

[euphemia]

Yeah, I'm going to get negs for this but I'm not a libertine. Guys like this are why. Even the anarchists have plans for dealing with this type of stuff though, so it would just end up being government by another name. It always has, and I suppose guys like this are why.

The ultimate authority is God.

[angelatc]

Projection, quite obviously. .

I stand corrected. I guess I just stopped paying any attention at all to you years ago, then.

[angelatc]

The ultimate authority is God.

Yes, but both Pelosi and Trump claim to be doing His work.

[timosman]

Americans are children of men who have done genocide on this continent and people don't learn from history.

Screaming "white supremacy" is not sufficient?