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Origanalist
03-20-2019, 05:46 AM
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The Trump administration’s destructive Iran policy may be about to get even worse:

Under plans recommended by Mr. Pompeo and some White House officials, the State Department would designate Iran’s military Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps as a foreign terrorist organization. It would be a first instance of the United States designating a unit of another government’s military as a terrorist group; American officials said it could put United States troops and intelligence officers at risk of similar actions by foreign governments.

The plans also would designate some Iraqi Shiite militias as foreign terrorist organizations. As a result, the Iranian-trained militias — and Iraqi officials who support them — would be subject to new economic sanctions and travel restrictions.

The administration’s plans would be guaranteed to increase tensions with Iran and sour relations with the Iraqi government. The designation of the IRGC and Iraqi militias could very well provoke attacks on U.S. forces by those same groups. Previous proposals to designate the IRGC have prompted some of their officers to threaten to do just that. The designation could also provide a pretext for the administration to initiate hostilities against Iran and the armed groups that it supports in Iraq and Syria. When this bad idea first start cropping up over ten years ago, then-Sen. Obama opposed it because he argued that it could be used as an excuse for an attack on Iran. It is potentially very dangerous, and it isn’t going to achieve anything, so it is very much like the rest of the administration’s bankrupt Iran policy.

Military and intelligence officials are understandably wary of labeling part of another state’s military establishment as terrorists:

Officials at the Pentagon and the C.I.A. — which Mr. Pompeo ran in the Trump administration’s first year — oppose designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guards or the Iraqi militias as terrorist groups, fearing a backlash that could constrain American troops.

The fact that Pompeo is proposing these measures in the wake of Rouhani’s successful visit to Iraq and his unprecedented meeting with Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani shows how tone-deaf and oblivious to Iraqi politics the Secretary of State is. Iraqi opposition to a continued U.S. military presence in the country was on the rise even before Trump put his foot in his mouth about “watching Iran” from Iraq, and that opposition seems certain to increase if these proposed designations of Iraqi militias and officials go ahead.

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Brian4Liberty
03-20-2019, 11:01 AM
No doubt Pence will come out soon and say “either you are with us, or you are against us”. Seems to be his go-to phrase lately.

acptulsa
03-20-2019, 11:06 AM
At the risk of being punny, Bolton is nuts.

Anti Globalist
03-20-2019, 11:09 AM
But I'm constantly being told that everything with Iran is going to be ok.

shakey1
03-20-2019, 11:52 AM
Lather, rinse & repeat... always repeat. :recycle:

ILUVRP
03-20-2019, 12:21 PM
At the risk of being punny, Bolton is nuts.

of all the people in washington i don't like its bolton and pence .

Origanalist
03-20-2019, 12:30 PM
of all the people in washington i don't like its bolton and pence .

And there they are, front and center.

nikcers
03-20-2019, 01:09 PM
of all the people in washington i don't like its bolton and pence .
What's scary is Bolton engineered the 2016 Republican contests. He is a master at manipulation and probably was guaranteed that position for doing it all.

acptulsa
03-20-2019, 01:15 PM
of all the people in washington i don't like its bolton and pence .

Yeah, as soon as I heard Trump appointed Bolt-on, I said, we're screwed.


What's scary is Bolton engineered the 2016 Republican contests. He is a master at manipulation and probably was guaranteed that position for doing it all.

Wasn't nice of him to spam the snot out of this place?

nikcers
03-20-2019, 01:21 PM
Yeah, as soon as I heard Trump appointed Bolt-on, I said, we're screwed.



Wasn't nice of him to spam the snot out of this place?

Yeah but what surprised me was the sophistication of their propaganda. They had meta data and voting profiles for everyone and knew exactly what they needed to say in order to manipulate people into being an endless army of mindless dolls. It's like he is a real wizard.

enhanced_deficit
03-20-2019, 02:50 PM
At the risk of being punny, Bolton is nuts.


To be fair, he was hired by America First laedership. So very possible that he's more America Firster than Bolton-ZOA memes would have us believe.


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Mega-donor Adelson, with access and influence, scores two pro- Israel victories (https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article211098039.html)
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A passionate and hawkish advocate for Israel with close ties to its prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, Adelson was in Jerusalem today for a celebration of the U.S. embassy’s relocation to that city, a longstanding priority for the mogul. Similarly, Adelson had pushed hard for President Donald Trump to pull out of the Iran nuclear deal, which happened last week.
And the day after that announcement, Adelson quietly slipped into the White House for a private meeting with Trump and three top administration officials: Vice President Mike Pence, Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin and an Adelson favorite, National Security Adviser John Bolton, according to two conservative sources familiar with the previously unreported private event.

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