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Zippyjuan
03-12-2019, 07:32 PM
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/leaked-dick-cheney-told-mike-pence-he-worries-trumps-foreign-policy-has-shades-of-obama

Chaney/Bush brought us such foreign policy wonders as the wars with Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Patriot Act. "You are with us or you are for the terrorists!"


Former Vice President Dick Cheney and current Vice President Mike Pence went head-to-head over President Trump’s foreign policy over the weekend.

During a private event hosted by the American Enterprise Institute, Cheney said, “We’re getting into a situation when our friends and allies around the world that we depend upon are going to lack confidence in us,” according to a transcript obtained by the Washington Post.

“I worry that the bottom line of that kind of an approach is we have an administration that looks a lot more like Barack Obama than Ronald Reagan,” Cheney said.

In particular, Cheney said he was troubled by the Trump administration’s decision to eliminate joint U.S. military exercises conducted with South Korea. Pence vowed eliminating the exercises “will not affect our readiness in South Korea.”

Cheney cited a Bloomberg News report that said Trump decided “to pursue a policy that would insist that the Germans, the Japanese, and the South Koreans pay total cost for our deployments there, plus 50 percent on top of that.” The policy, he said, sounded like a “New York State real estate deal.”

Cheney also called into question Trump’s attitude toward the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, saying Trump’s behavior “feeds this notion on the part of our allies overseas, especially in NATO, that we’re not long for that continued relationship, that we’re looking eagerly to find ways where somebody else will pick up the tab.” Multiple reports have been published recently claiming that Trump has signaled an interest privately in withdrawing from NATO.

Pence fired back.

“I think there is a tendency by critics of the president and our administration to conflate the demand that our allies live up to their word and their commitments and an erosion in our commitment to the post-World War II order,” Pence said.

“But we think it’s possible to demand that your allies do more to provide for the common defense of all of our nations and, at the same time, reaffirm our strong commitment — whether it be to the trans-Atlantic Alliance or to our allies across the Indo-Pacific,” Pence said.

enhanced_deficit
03-01-2020, 05:20 PM
Granted he's very wrong in his world view, have to have some respect for this consistent neoconservative think tank or rather war tank (unlike fair-weather neocons enabler like Ted Cruz) :

1 day ago
John Bolton blasts Trump's 'Obama-style' Taliban deal

By Sam Dorman | Fox News

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo witnesses the signing of an agreement with the Taliban as part of an effort to bring thousands of U.S. troops home from the post-9/11 Afghanistan war.

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton attacked his former boss's historic peace treaty with the Taliban, arguing it posed an "unacceptable risk to American civilians."
"Signing this agreement with Taliban is an unacceptable risk to America's civilian population," Bolton tweeted on Saturday.
"This is an Obama-style deal," Bolton said, referring to Trump's predecessor. "Legitimizing Taliban sends the wrong signal to ISIS and al Qaeda terrorists, and to America's enemies generally."

Bolton, long considered a foreign policy hawk, left the Trump administration last fall amid disagreements over the administration's approach to Afghanistan and other countries

foxnews.com/politics/bolton-trump-obama-style-taliban-deal

Anti Globalist
03-01-2020, 05:24 PM
Cheney can go eat a bag of dicks.

juleswin
03-01-2020, 05:36 PM
Cheney can go eat a bag of dicks.

And you wouldn't have seen this article if Zippy didn't post it. Aren't you glad zippy posted it here?

sparebulb
03-01-2020, 05:49 PM
And you wouldn't have seen this article if Zippy didn't post it. Aren't you glad zippy posted it here?

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juleswin
03-01-2020, 05:51 PM
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Just trying to get the mods to talk. The more people that see this, the better so thanks for the bump :)

sparebulb
03-01-2020, 05:59 PM
Courtesy bump.

Sammy
03-02-2020, 11:28 AM
Dick Cheney the piece of shit should leave Trump alone!
He was responsible for the Iraq war which was the biggest blunder in US History!
He & his evil daughter Liz Cheney will go to hell for supporting mass murder!

enhanced_deficit
03-02-2020, 11:58 AM
He & his evil daughter Liz Cheney will go to hell for supporting mass murder!

To be fair, some key Iraq war champions are rising in GOPA wing though besides MAGA.


Iraq invasion architect Elliott Abrams quietly slips into Trump administration (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530753-Iraq-invasion-architect-Elliott-Abrams-quietly-slips-into-Trump-administration&)


https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/trib.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/2/d3/2d39139e-15d7-590d-b279-17182af9a52b/5a6a85cd36cc8.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C800

Liz Cheney will be a top House Republican
Dick Cheney's oldest child soon becomes the GOP's highest-ranking woman in the House.
Nov 27, 2018


Jan 12, 2020
Rand Paul says Trump keeps appointing advisers who "love Dick Cheney's position"

Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) said on NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday that President Trump "keeps getting policy that's not his policy" because he has surrounded himself with hawkish advisers who "disagree" with the president's instincts to withdraw the U.S. from the Middle East.
https://www.axios.com/rand-paul-trump-iran-iraq-war-f9563f12-68c7-4949-9bdf-dc50fba7a5d6.html


David Wurmser, Key Iraq War Architect, Advising Trump on Iran
theintercept
Jan 16, 2020 - David Wurmser, former neocon adviser to Dick Cheney on Middle Eastern affairs


That is not to suggest that these 'peace deals' /summits are designed to fail and are PR stunts/ fake wrestling for show. Or that MAGA and Cheneys high five each other in private.

AngryCanadian
03-02-2020, 12:12 PM
Cheney worries that Trump isnt enough of a NeoCon who wants more endless wars.