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Thor
03-11-2019, 01:51 PM
She failed as a business owner and owes back taxes(1), did not live in the district she ran/won in(2), was "selected" for acting/looks(3), is being fed what to say and do(3), has a campaign manager that misused funds(4), is part of a larger orchestrated push to take over our republic(3)...

How much more are we going to accept? Lobbyist and corporations running the government is beyond horrible enough (and we need to fix it.) This is down right treason. A coup attempt.

(1) https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/ocasiocortezs_failed_company_is_a_tax_deadbeat_war rant_filed_over_unpaid_taxes_to_new_york_state.htm l
(2) https://nypost.com/2019/02/23/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-nowhere-to-be-seen-near-bronx-home/
(3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU
(4) https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-chief-of-staff-ran-1m-slush-fund-by-diverting-campaign-cash-to-his-own-companies



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

PAF
03-11-2019, 03:02 PM
There is too much promoting AOC and her ilk, it is free advertisement. We need to be getting our message out and make them appear irrelevant.

Thor
03-11-2019, 03:42 PM
There is too much promoting AOC and her ilk, it is free advertisement. We need to be getting our message out and make them appear irrelevant.

Did you watch the video? Do you see what is at stake and what they are trying to do? Take over congress and the Republic through puppet candidates, just like they successfully did with AOC. If that is not enough to see this is a war they are waging, then nothing will.

PierzStyx
03-11-2019, 03:47 PM
>[Every American politician] is part of an orchestrated attack on our [Oligarchy.]

FTFY

PAF
03-11-2019, 03:54 PM
Did you watch the video? Do you see what is at stake and what they are trying to do? Take over congress and the Republic through puppet candidates, just like they successfully did with AOC. If that is not enough to see this is a war they are waging, then nothing will.

Of course I watched it. I can’t get that time back so now what?

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 04:07 PM
Did you watch the video? Do you see what is at stake and what they are trying to do? Take over congress and the Republic through puppet candidates, just like they successfully did with AOC. If that is not enough to see this is a war they are waging, then nothing will.

Um, a little past tense?

They've been there and done that long ago. Now they're hanging onto it despite an increasingly dissatisfied populace by propagandizing them and giving them pretend rebels who, somehow, always seem to get 47,395,620 times more MSM publicity than Ron Paul ever did.

Anti Federalist
03-11-2019, 04:10 PM
Um, a little past tense?

They've been there and done that long ago. Now they're hanging onto it despite an increasingly dissatisfied populace by propagandizing them and giving them pretend rebels who, somehow, always seem to get 47,395,620 times more MSM publicity than Ron Paul ever did.

Amazing how that works isn't it?

Thor
03-11-2019, 04:15 PM
Agreed, we have a corrupt oligarchy that wants to maintain power and control. And now, we have a socialistic movement trying to puppet master their way in and take over and flip this country to the hard left. Was it bad? Yes. Will it be FAR FAR worse... hell yes. I guess it just means the drumbeats of the second civil war are getting louder and louder.... Or do you think the oligarchy will fight back?

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 04:16 PM
Amazing how that works isn't it?

Amazing that even fans of He Who Must Not Be Named fail to see that as the danger sign that it is.


Agreed, we have a corrupt oligarchy that wants to maintain power and control. And now, we have a socialistic movement trying to puppet master their way in and take over and flip this country to the hard left. Was it bad? Yes. Will it be FAR FAR worse... hell yes. I guess it just means the drumbeats of the second civil war are getting louder and louder.... Or do you think the oligarchy will fight back?

Do you really think this hard left socialistic totalitarian movement is something other than the corrupt oligarchy playing Millennials?

Remember He Who Must Not Be Named? How many weeks did we wait between MSM mentions of Ron Paul? How long do you have to wait for the next story on the Brooklyn Bubblehead? Thirty-seven seconds? And she's not even running for the senate, much less president.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 05:11 PM
Do you really think this hard left socialistic totalitarian movement is something other than the corrupt oligarchy playing Millennials?

Remember He Who Must Not Be Named? How many weeks did we wait between MSM mentions of Ron Paul? How long do you have to wait for the next story on the Brooklyn Bubblehead? Thirty-seven seconds? And she's not even running for the senate, much less president.
It is different, like every entrenched oligarchy in history our current one has reached the end of its days and is being challenged by multiple factions that wish to replace it, some are better than it was and some are worse.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 05:23 PM
It is different, like every entrenched oligarchy in history our current one has reached the end of its days and is being challenged by multiple factions that wish to replace it, some are better than it was and some are worse.

That's incredibly irrelevant.

If they get publicity, they are either a distraction, a wolf in sheep's clothing, or a lightning rod.

That goes for the Brooklyn Bubblehead, the Orange Guy, and the boondogwall too.

If they have the slightest chance of giving us our nation back, They Must Not Be Named. And they won't be. If they get publicity, they are the enemy.

I know you didn't do shit for either Dr. Paul, so you didn't experience the He Who Must Not Be Named phenomenon. But it really isn't a difficult concept.

Thor
03-11-2019, 05:28 PM
It is different, like every entrenched oligarchy in history our current one has reached the end of its days and is being challenged by multiple factions that wish to replace it, some are better than it was and some are worse.

Well, at least you get it...

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 05:31 PM
Well, at least you get it...

It's the people who think Cortez isn't a tool of the oligarchy who will be getting it--good and hard.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 05:32 PM
That's incredibly irrelevant.

If they get publicity, they are either a distraction, a wolf in sheep's clothing, or a lightning rod.

That goes for the Brooklyn Bubblehead, the Orange Guy, and the boondogwall too.

If they have the slightest chance of giving us our nation back, They Must Not Be Named. And they won't be. If they get publicity, they are the enemy.
Anyone who takes us closer to where we should be is our ally until we reach a point where we want to go farther and they don't.


I know you didn't do $#@! for either Dr. Paul, so you didn't experience the He Who Must Not Be Named phenomenon. But it really isn't a difficult concept.
You have no idea what I did for Dr. Ron and I did more than nothing.
I watched every dirty trick that happened including the blackout.

PAF
03-11-2019, 05:36 PM
You have no idea what I did for Dr. Ron and I did more than nothing.
I watched every dirty trick that happened including the blackout.

Could you please elaborate?

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 05:39 PM
Anyone who takes us closer to where we should be is our ally until we reach a point where we want to go farther and they don't.

And what about the people who drive the bus that says, "LIBERTY" above the windshield, but goes straight to the FEMA camp? You don't think they exist? You don't think we should learn to recognize them before you get on the bus?

What about the bus that says, "SOCIALIST UTOPIA" above the windshield, but goes to the FEMA camp? Is it more important to win over the people who want that bus and frustrate the totalitarians by teaching progs how to avoid that trap? Or is it more important to you--think carefully, now--to give them what they deserve for even wanting to be on that bus than to defeat the totalitarians?

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 05:40 PM
Could you please elaborate?
I donated, I became a PCP, I lobbied friends and family, I put a bumpersticker on my car that I didn't remove between elections etc. and I kept track of the campaign as best I could.

I also sent Ron a letter in 2004 asking him to run for President.

Is that enough?

I expect now to be told by the Swordsmyth haters that I am lying and I don't care.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 05:45 PM
And what about the people who drive the bus that says, "LIBERTY" above the windshield, but goes straight to the FEMA camp? You don't think they exist? You don't think we should learn to recognize them before you get on the bus?
Sure, but you act like we can't get off the bus when it starts taking us more in the wrong direction than the right direction.
You also ignore the fact that we may just get gunned down where we stand if we don't work with what allies we can find.


What about the bus that says, "SOCIALIST UTOPIA" above the windshield, but goes to the FEMA camp? Is it more important to win over the people who want that bus and frustrate the totalitarians by teaching progs how to avoid that trap? Or is it more important to you--think carefully, now--to give them what they deserve for even wanting to be on that bus than to defeat the totalitarians?
They can't be saved, not before we are all dead anyway, we can go back to trying to teach them when we have won and defeated THEIR attempts to destroy liberty forever.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 05:46 PM
I also sent Ron a letter in 2004 asking him to run for President.

LOL

Nobody was petitioning him in 2004. People did petition him to run in 2004--in 2001. That didn't start again until 2006.


Sure, but you act like we can't get off the bus when it starts taking us more in the wrong direction than the right direction.

Can we get off the Trump bus?


They can't be saved, not before we are all dead anyway, we can go back to trying to teach them when we have won and defeated THEIR attempts to destroy liberty forever.

So, you won't obey God's command and live your enemy even if saving your enemy immediately and demonstrably keeps you safe too.

Can't say I'm surprised.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 05:47 PM
LOL
Called it:



I expect now to be told by the Swordsmyth haters that I am lying and I don't care.

PAF
03-11-2019, 05:48 PM
I donated, I became a PCP, I lobbied friends and family, I put a bumpersticker on my car that I didn't remove between elections etc. and I kept track of the campaign as best I could.

I also sent Ron a letter in 2004 asking him to run for President.

Is that enough?

I expect now to be told by the Swordsmyth haters that I am lying and I don't care.

I don’t hate you, Swordy, just some of your anti-liberty positions that feed the state.

What have you learned by that (in bold)?

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 05:53 PM
Called it:

Why wouldn't you be able to predict you would be called a liar? Not like it takes a Nostradamus under the circumstances.

PAF
03-11-2019, 05:53 PM
LOL

Nobody was petitioning him in 2004. People did petition him to run in 2004--in 2001.

Can we get off the Trump bus?



I was wondering if he might send trump a letter LOL

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 05:54 PM
I don’t hate you, Swordy, just some of your anti-liberty positions that feed the state.
You didn't call me a liar.


What have you learned by that (in bold)?
Lots, but mostly that as AF says, FREEDOM IS NOT POPULAR, I learned that we must concentrate on stopping the destruction of what little we have left and incrementally moving towards more at a pace that people will support until we can educate more people to support extreme liberty.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 05:56 PM
Why wouldn't you be able to predict you would be called a liar? Not like it takes a Nostradamus under the circumstances.
Knowing you and your propensity to slander people it was an absolute given.

I have my doubts about your supposed support for the movement, you do a great job of undermining it.

PAF
03-11-2019, 05:58 PM
You didn't call me a liar.


Lots, but mostly that as AF says, FREEDOM IS NOT POPULAR, I learned that we must concentrate on stopping the destruction of what little we have left and incrementally moving towards more at a pace that people will support until we can educate more people to support extreme liberty.

Romney delegates in Tampa basically eluded the same thing; we must impose more government to reduce it. I don’t buy it.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 06:00 PM
LOL

Nobody was petitioning him in 2004. People did petition him to run in 2004--in 2001. That didn't start again until 2006.
I sent him a letter personally in 2004, I don't know or care about when anyone else asked him to run.




Can we get off the Trump bus?
Any time.




So, you won't obey God's command and live your enemy even if saving your enemy immediately and demonstrably keeps you safe too.

Can't say I'm surprised.
I love my enemies, but I do not love them as myself, we are never commanded to do that, we are told to love our neighbors as ourselves but our neighbors are identified as those who do good unto us.
My love for my enemies extends to trying to educate them when doing so doesn't risk my life and liberty or those of my family, friends and neighbors.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 06:01 PM
Romney delegates in Tampa basically eluded the same thing; we must impose more government to reduce it. I don’t buy it.
Controlling the border is not imposing more government and I support massive reductions to government.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 06:01 PM
Knowing you and your propensity to slander people it was an absolute given.

I have my doubts about your supposed support for the movement, you do a great job of undermining it.

Can we get off the Trump bus right now or not?



My love for my enemies extends to trying to educate them when doing so doesn't risk my life and liberty or those of my family, friends and neighbors.

But you just said you wouldn't warn civilian profs off their FEMA camp bus even if doing so would defeat the totalitarians.

It's what you said.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 06:01 PM
I was wondering if he might send trump a letter LOL
I did not and I don't expect to.

enhanced_deficit
03-11-2019, 06:02 PM
To be fair, she also attacked & unseated fellow democrat titan who had voted for Netanyahu advocated Iraqi freedom war.
She also attacked US mideast foreign policy and war crimes of some of our closest allies.
Does that change GOP/pro-Republic base sentiment towards her?


4 major lessons from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's titanic upset in New York
CNN, Wed June 27, 2018


Related

Shame on Dems that it took them 15 years to vote out a politician who had voted for the biggest blunder in US history (Iraqi Freedom War) even if he was a champion of our closest ally & only non-racist democracy in mideast.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the insurgent firebrand who Tuesday toppled the No. 4 Democrat in the House of Representatives, is a strong critic of Israel who denounced the killings of Palestinian protesters as a “massacre.”

June 26, 2018 By Dave Goldiner

This is a massacre.
I hope my peers have the moral courage to call it such.
No state or entity is absolved of mass shootings of protesters. There is no justification. Palestinian people deserve basic human dignity, as anyone else.
Democrats can’t be silent about this anymore. https://t.co/wJGATOtDsR— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@Ocasio2018) May 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/996009689312825344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Ocasio-Cortez, 28, stunned the political world by decisively beating Joe Crowley, a Queens powerbroker who had been mentioned as a possible future candidate for Speaker of the House.
With about 90% of precincts reporting, Ocasio-Cortez was ahead by 58%-to-42%, making Crowley the first incumbent Democrat to lose his seat this year.

“Especially in New York people say this is political suicide,” Ocasio-Cortez told Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuoKLLLpiuE) referring to her criticism of Israel. “But I had a lot of my constituents thanking me for taking that position. I had a lot of Jewish Americans who thanked me.”

https://forward.com/fast-forward/404...rowley-israel/ (https://forward.com/fast-forward/404159/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democrat-joe-crowley-israel/)

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 06:03 PM
Can we get off the Trump bus right now or not?


http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by acptulsa http://www.ronpaulforums.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=6765339#post6765339)

Can we get off the Trump bus?





Any time.


...

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 06:07 PM
...

Right now?

Or are we stuck on it for 2-6 more years?

It's not a hard question. Are our fists stuck in the orange tar baby for 2-6 more years?

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 06:10 PM
Right now?

Or are we stuck on it for 2-6 more years?

It's not a hard question. Are our fists stuck in the orange tar baby for 2-6 more years?
You are changing the subject, Trump will remain President until Jan. 2021, if he is reelected he will remain President until Jan. 2025

We can get off his bus (stop supporting him) any time, whether we should or not is an entirely different question.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 06:16 PM
You are changing the subject, Trump will remain President until Jan. 2021, if he is reelected he will remain President until Jan. 2025

We can get off his bus (stop supporting him) any time, whether we should or not is an entirely different question.

I am not changing the subject.

If we cannot recognize these establishment puppets before we elect them, we get stuck with them. That is the topic at hand. That's the very crux of the matter. The only person who could think for half a second that isn't the heart of the thing is a person who is just fine with having establishment shills in positions of power.

If they get publicity from the MSM, the MSM (and their owners) trust them. Therefore, we should not. And neither should anyone else.

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 06:21 PM
I am not changing the subject.

If we cannot recognize these establishment puppets before we elect them, we get stuck with them. That is the topic at hand. That's the very crux of the matter. The only person who could think for half a second that isn't the heart of the thing is a person who is just fine with having establishment shills in positions of power.

If they get publicity from the MSM, the MSM (and their owners) trust them. Therefore, we should not. And neither should anyone else.
Your understanding of the relationship between Trump and the media is limited to say the least, he spent most of his life cooperating with the powers that be so that he would be deemed a "somebody" that had to be covered, even when he first ran they thought he was going to be a patsy that would take a fall on purpose and let Hitlery win, by the time they discovered that he was running to win they had made him a bigger celebrity than he ever had been and their only choice was to go into "destroy" mode.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 06:22 PM
And just to set the record straight:


44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you...

Anti Globalist
03-11-2019, 06:25 PM
>[Every American politician] is part of an orchestrated attack on our [Oligarchy.]

FTFY
This.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 06:27 PM
Your understanding of the relationship between Trump and the media is limited to say the least, he spent most of his life cooperating with the powers that be so that he would be deemed a "somebody" that had to be covered, even when he first ran they thought he was going to be a patsy that would take a fall on purpose and let Hitlery win, by the time they discovered that he was running to win they had made him a bigger celebrity than he ever had been and their only choice was to go into "destroy" mode.

And Zeus said, "Ah how shameless – the way these mortals blame the gods. From us alone, they say, come all their miseries, yes, but they themselves, with their own reckless ways, compound their pains beyond their proper share."

Isn't amazing how these myths hang around?

Swordsmyth
03-11-2019, 06:36 PM
And just to set the record straight:
And?

That doesn't say "love your enemies as yourself".

Luke
Chapter 10

27 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-10-27/)And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.


28 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-10-28/)And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
29 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-10-29/)But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?
...

36 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-10-36/)Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?

37 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-10-37/)And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.






I love my enemies, but I do not love them as myself, we are never commanded to do that, we are told to love our neighbors as ourselves but our neighbors are identified as those who do good unto us.
My love for my enemies extends to trying to educate them when doing so doesn't risk my life and liberty or those of my family, friends and neighbors.


Are you one of those that claims we have no right to defend ourselves?

Luke 22:36 (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-22-36/) | View whole chapter (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-Chapter-22/#36) | See verse in context (https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Luke-22-34_22-37/)
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

Thor
03-11-2019, 06:39 PM
To be fair, she also attacked & unseated fellow democrat titan who had voted for Netanyahu advocated Iraqi freedom war.
She also attacked US mideast foreign policy and war crimes of some of our closest allies.
Does that change GOP/pro-Republic base sentiment towards her?

4 major lessons from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's titanic upset in New York
CNN, Wed June 27, 2018


Related

Shame on Dems that it took them 15 years to vote out a politician who had voted for the biggest blunder in US history (Iraqi Freedom War) even if he was a champion of our closest ally & only non-racist democracy in mideast.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the insurgent firebrand who Tuesday toppled the No. 4 Democrat in the House of Representatives, is a strong critic of Israel who denounced the killings of Palestinian protesters as a “massacre.”

June 26, 2018 By Dave Goldiner
This is a massacre.
I hope my peers have the moral courage to call it such.
No state or entity is absolved of mass shootings of protesters. There is no justification. Palestinian people deserve basic human dignity, as anyone else.
Democrats can’t be silent about this anymore. https://t.co/wJGATOtDsR— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@Ocasio2018) May 14, 2018 (https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/996009689312825344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Ocasio-Cortez, 28, stunned the political world by decisively beating Joe Crowley, a Queens powerbroker who had been mentioned as a possible future candidate for Speaker of the House.
With about 90% of precincts reporting, Ocasio-Cortez was ahead by 58%-to-42%, making Crowley the first incumbent Democrat to lose his seat this year.

“Especially in New York people say this is political suicide,” Ocasio-Cortez told Glenn Greenwald of the Intercept, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuoKLLLpiuE) referring to her criticism of Israel. “But I had a lot of my constituents thanking me for taking that position. I had a lot of Jewish Americans who thanked me.”

https://forward.com/fast-forward/404...rowley-israel/ (https://forward.com/fast-forward/404159/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-democrat-joe-crowley-israel/)



If you watch the video, that was all orchestrated, funded, and "grass roots" choreographed by Justice Democrats.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 06:46 PM
If you watch the video, that was all orchestrated, funded, and "grass roots" choreographed by Justice Democrats.

And that does not mean it's in any way independent of the oligarchy.

Thor
03-11-2019, 08:06 PM
And that does not mean it's in any way independent of the oligarchy.

And everyone who wants to take over and control the country is not necessarily "the oligarchy" either...

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 08:11 PM
And everyone who wants to take over and control the country is not necessarily "the oligarchy" either...

Well, no. But Ron Paul taught us how much coverage the true outsiders get on the MSM. And that's a useful lesson, if we have sense enough to learn from the experience.

When there is doubt who is who, that is useful and convincing evidence. We ignore it at our peril. We have trouble enough without refusing to learn our hard-earned lessons.

Dr.3D
03-11-2019, 08:19 PM
Well, no. But Ron Paul taught us how much coverage the true outsiders get on the MSM. And that's a useful lesson, if we have sense enough to learn from the experience.

When there is doubt who is who, that is useful and convincing evidence. We ignore it at our peril. We have trouble enough without refusing to learn our hard-earned lessons.
To this day, we see avatars with a black mark over their face.

All the media were working hard to make sure, Ron Paul got the least amount of air time as any of the candidates.

Isn't it strange how FOX news likes to pretend they are behind Trump while all the others are doing their best to make Trump look bad?

And you are correct, FOX did as much as the rest of them to keep Ron Paul out of the spotlight.

If the powers that be, don't want somebody in the White House, it's darned hard for that person to even be known to the public via the Main Stream Media.

It is rather strange how Trump managed to get so much face time from the media.

acptulsa
03-11-2019, 08:22 PM
It is rather strange how Trump managed to get so much face time from the media.

And how much swamp draining has he done?

Clearly, someone trusts Cortez to refrain from wrestling the alligators.

Dr.3D
03-11-2019, 08:29 PM
And how much swamp draining has he done?

Clearly, someone trusts Cortez to refrain from wrestling the alligators.
Well, according to my tax preparer, they are still hitting you if you haven't had health insurance. Looks like Obamacare didn't get repealed.

I had to wonder why there was so much talk about repeal and replace and no talk about just repealing it altogether. I guess there was supposed to be another scam called Trumpcare and it just didn't pan out.

Oh I'm sorry, that's in a different ring of the circus.

Swordsmyth
03-15-2019, 08:03 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8b95oRDkd8

jmdrake
03-15-2019, 08:34 PM
She failed as a business owner and owes back taxes(1), did not live in the district she ran/won in(2), was "selected" for acting/looks(3), is being fed what to say and do(3), has a campaign manager that misused funds(4), is part of a larger orchestrated push to take over our republic(3)...

How much more are we going to accept? Lobbyist and corporations running the government is beyond horrible enough (and we need to fix it.) This is down right treason. A coup attempt.

(1) https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/03/ocasiocortezs_failed_company_is_a_tax_deadbeat_war rant_filed_over_unpaid_taxes_to_new_york_state.htm l
(2) https://nypost.com/2019/02/23/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-is-nowhere-to-be-seen-near-bronx-home/
(3) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU
(4) https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/ocasio-cortezs-chief-of-staff-ran-1m-slush-fund-by-diverting-campaign-cash-to-his-own-companies



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h5iv6sECGU

AOC will cost the democrats the Whitehouse in 2020. When you are too liberal for Diane Feinstein you've jumped the shark.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEPo34LCss8

Thor
03-17-2019, 03:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEPo34LCss8

The brainwashing of the younger generation is going well....

Pauls' Revere
03-17-2019, 03:59 PM
And what about the people who drive the bus that says, "LIBERTY" above the windshield, but goes straight to the FEMA camp? You don't think they exist? You don't think we should learn to recognize them before you get on the bus?

What about the bus that says, "SOCIALIST UTOPIA" above the windshield, but goes to the FEMA camp? Is it more important to win over the people who want that bus and frustrate the totalitarians by teaching progs how to avoid that trap? Or is it more important to you--think carefully, now--to give them what they deserve for even wanting to be on that bus than to defeat the totalitarians?

https://giphy.com/gifs/r5Laua4IPpvzy/html5

PierzStyx
03-19-2019, 10:27 AM
And everyone who wants to take over and control the country is not necessarily "the oligarchy" either...

Different oligarchs fighting for control of the mechanism of control.

Stratovarious
03-19-2019, 11:17 AM
''AOC is part of an orchestrated attack on our Republic''


I agree, a tried and true formula designed to destroy a country from the inside out.
Appealing to the reparationists, welfare addicts, and LBGT communities.

Ender
03-19-2019, 12:41 PM
To this day, we see avatars with a black mark over their face.

All the media were working hard to make sure, Ron Paul got the least amount of air time as any of the candidates.

Isn't it strange how FOX news likes to pretend they are behind Trump while all the others are doing their best to make Trump look bad?

And you are correct, FOX did as much as the rest of them to keep Ron Paul out of the spotlight.

If the powers that be, don't want somebody in the White House, it's darned hard for that person to even be known to the public via the Main Stream Media.

It is rather strange how Trump managed to get so much face time from the media.

Exactly- if the press/PTB are against you, you get NO coverage.

Lottsa coverage- positive or negative- is always good, as there's no such thing as "bad" press if your name is continually in the spotlight.

As for the OP- we haven't had a republic since the "Civil" War.

shakey1
03-19-2019, 01:19 PM
Exactly- if the press/PTB are against you, you get NO coverage.

Lottsa coverage- positive or negative- is always good, as there's no such thing as "bad" press if your name is continually in the spotlight.

As for the OP- we haven't had a republic since the "Civil" War.

Yeah, but MSM gave Trump loads of coverage... negative coverage, but loads just the same... was like a train wreck... they couldn't ignore it... & it backfired.

Ender
03-19-2019, 01:37 PM
Yeah, but MSM gave Trump loads of coverage... negative coverage, but loads just the same... was like a train wreck... they couldn't ignore it... & it backfired.

Exactly- they gave it to him for that exact purpose. Trump was their man.

acptulsa
03-19-2019, 01:37 PM
Yeah, but MSM gave Trump loads of coverage... negative coverage, but loads just the same... was like a train wreck... they couldn't ignore it... & it backfired.

Some say it backfired. Others say, whoever gets the most whining and bitching from the Liberal Media wins the GOP nomination.

Worked for Dubya. Worked for Reagan. Works over and over, for most GOP primary voters wake up in a brand new world every four years.

When they actually don't like someone, they don't mention the name at all. That never backfires--not even when they get called on it.

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 03:35 PM
Some say it backfired. Others say, whoever gets the most whining and bitching from the Liberal Media wins the GOP nomination.

Worked for Dubya. Worked for Reagan. Works over and over, for most GOP primary voters wake up in a brand new world every four years.

When they actually don't like someone, they don't mention the name at all. That never backfires--not even when they get called on it.
They wanted him to win the primary because they thought he would take a fall for Hitlery but when he didn't they were stuck with their decision to give him coverage.

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 05:20 PM
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) isn’t hugely popular in her own party and even in her own state, according to a recent poll.
Only 31% of respondents view Ocasio-Cortez favorably, with 41% holding a unfavorable opinion of her according to a March 15 Gallup poll (https://news.gallup.com/poll/247820/rep-ocasio-cortez-better-known-image-skews-negative.aspx?g_source=link_NEWSV9&g_medium=LEAD&g_campaign=item_&g_content=Rep.%2520Ocasio-Cortez%2520Better%2520Known%2c%2520but%2520Image%2 520Skews%2520Negative), and her numbers especially dropped off among New York Democrats who blamed her for Amazon ditching its plans to open a headquarters in Queens.

Yikes: AOC favorability awfully weak in NEW YORK (state), per new Siena poll.
Schumer fav: 51-41 (+10)
Gillibrand fav 43-33 (+10)
Cuomo fav 46-48 (+2)
AOC fav: 31-44 (-13)
De Blasio fav: 34-50 (-16)https://t.co/mLBgJWHSZm
— Josh Kraushaar (@HotlineJosh) March 18, 2019 (https://twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1107691054642405377?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)
Her popularity is lower than Hillary Clinton’s record low of 36% from a Sept. 2018 Gallup poll, and President Trump fared better at 43% in a recent Fox poll which is in line with Gallup’s findings.
Ocasio-Cortez has been on a consistent downward spiral since her election, according to Gallup, which found that she’s not very well-respected in her home state when compared to her peers.
Additionally, 38% of respondents said she was a “villain” in how she handled the Amazon deal, with only 12% claiming that she was a hero.
A large majority of New York residents supported Amazon’s plans, the poll stated.


https://www.infowars.com/poll-aoc-less-popular-than-trump-hillary/

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 05:57 PM
Democratic Rep. Alexandria-Ocasio Cortez and her top aide are no longer board members of the outside PAC credited with orchestrating her political rise, according to a corporate document filed Friday to a Washington, D.C. agency.
The New York Democrat and her chief of staff, Saikat Chakrabarti, who served as her campaign chair, joined the board of Justice Democrats in December 2017, according to the political action committee’s website. It also said (https://web.archive.org/web/20180710013817/justicedemocrats.com/about) the two held “legal control over the entity” at the same time it was playing a key role in supporting Ocasio-Cortez’s campaign prior to her shock victory over incumbent Democratic Rep. Joe Crowley in June 2018.
Attorneys for Ocasio-Cortez said (https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/03/07/aoc-chief-of-staff/) she was removed from Justice Democrats’ board in June 2018, but she was listed an “entity governor” of the PAC as recently as March 14, according to corporate filings (https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Justice-Democrats-Incorporation-Documents.pdf), The Daily Caller News Foundation previously reported.
Ocasio-Cortez and Chakrabarti were officially removed from Justice Democrats’ board on March 15, according to a corporate document (https://cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Justice-Democrats-2019-Report.pdf) filed that day to the Washington, D.C. Department of Consumer and Regulatory Affairs.
It’s unclear why it took Justice Democrats more than eight months to formally remove Ocasio-Cortez from its board. The PAC did not respond to a request for comment.


Ocasio-Cortez never disclosed (https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/04/ocasio-cortez-justice-democrats/) to the Federal Election Commission (FEC) that she and Chakrabarti controlled Justice Democrats while it simultaneously supported her primary campaign.
If the FEC finds that her campaign and the PAC were operating in affiliation, it could result in “massive reporting violations” or potentially even jail time for Ocasio-Cortez and Chakrabarti, former FEC Commissioner Brad Smith previously told TheDCNF. Another former FEC commissioner, Hans von Spakovsky (https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/11/fec-commissioner-ocasio-cortez/), wrote in a March 10 Fox News op-ed that he believes there’s sufficient evidence to “justify opening a criminal investigation” into Ocasio-Cortez.



Alexandra Rojas (https://www.justicedemocrats.com/about) and Demond Drummer (https://newconsensus.com/people/) replaced Ocasio-Cortez and Chakrabarti on Justice Democrats’ board. Both have close ties to the congresswoman.
https://i0.wp.com/cdn01.dailycaller.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Justice-Democrats-Board-March-18-316pm.jpg?ssl=1

Rojas, Justice Democrats’ executive director, was a field organizer (https://twitter.com/alexandrasiera?lang=en) for the Ocasio-Cortez campaign in 2018 while she was also serving as campaign director (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexislevinson/emilys-list-2018-midterms)for the PAC. Chakrabarti preceded Rojas as executive director.
Drummer is the executive director of New Consensus, a nonprofit group that played a key role in developing the Green New Deal.
The Green New Deal was written in a single weekend in December by New Consensus, Justice Democrats and Ocasio-Cortez staffers, along with the Sunrise Movement, a climate advocacy organization.
“We spent the weekend learning how to put laws together,” Chakrabarti told The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-political-scene/how-alexandria-ocasio-cortezs-allies-supplanted-the-obama-generation/amp) in January. “We looked up how to write resolutions.”

https://truepundit.com/ocasio-cortez-and-her-top-aide-officially-removed-from-board-of-justice-democrats-pac/

acptulsa
03-19-2019, 06:01 PM
They wanted him to win the primary because they thought he would take a fall for Hitlery but when he didn't they were stuck with their decision to give him coverage.

Amusing spin. But we all know they get rid of candidates they don't trust during the primary process, before the independent voters can get a crack at voting for them.

They took no chances.

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 06:03 PM
Amusing spin. But we all know they get rid of candidates they don't trust during the primary process, before the independent voters can get a crack at voting for them.

They took no chances.
They thought they could trust him, he spent most of his life getting them to trust him.

acptulsa
03-19-2019, 06:26 PM
They thought they could trust him, he spent most of his life getting them to trust him.

They certainly turned out to be right.

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 06:28 PM
They certainly turned out to be right.
LOL

acptulsa
03-19-2019, 06:36 PM
LOL

Just knew you'd be happy they were right.

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 06:37 PM
Just knew you'd be happy they were right.

They were wrong and so are you.

:tears:

acptulsa
03-19-2019, 06:40 PM
They were wrong and so are you.

:tears:

Oh? Got any data to back that up? Like an alligator count in D.C?

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 06:42 PM
Oh? Got any data to back that up? Like an alligator count in D.C?

The proof is posted regularly and you ignore it.

Trump is far from perfect but he is doing many good things and they hate him for it.

acptulsa
03-19-2019, 06:51 PM
The proof is posted regularly and you ignore it.

Trump is far from perfect but he is doing many good things and they hate him for it.

LOL

Yeah, lots of proof gets posted. And apparently, even those who spam it don't read it, because people seem awfully confused about who's benefiting.

Swordsmyth
03-19-2019, 06:53 PM
LOL

Yeah, lots of proof gets posted. And apparently, even those who spam it don't read it, because people seem awfully confused about who's benefiting.
:rolleyes:

timosman
03-19-2019, 06:53 PM
LOL

Yeah, lots of proof gets posted. And apparently, even those who spam it don't read it, because people seem awfully confused about who's benefiting.

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