USCG Lt. charged with terrorism

[Anti Federalist]

Can't let that Smollet story simmer on the front page all by itself.


Feds: Coast Guard lieutenant compiled hit list of lawmakers

https://apnews.com/e919eb94af514cfc9a43982fc7e2e617

By MICHAEL BALSAMO
40 minutes ago

This image provided by the U.S. District Court in Maryland shows a photo of firearms and ammunition that was in the motion for detention pending trial in the case against Christopher Paul Hasson. Prosecutors say that Hasson, a Coast Guard lieutenant is a "domestic terrorist" who wrote about biological attacks and had a hit list that included prominent Democrats and media figures. He is due in court on Feb. 21 in Maryland. Prosecutors say Hasson espoused extremist views for years. Court papers say Hasson described an "interesting idea" in a 2017 draft email that included "biological attacks followed by attack on food supply." (U.S. District Court via AP)
WASHINGTON (AP) — A Coast Guard lieutenant who was arrested last week is a “domestic terrorist” who drafted an email discussing biological attacks and had what appeared to be a hit list that included prominent Democrats and media figures, prosecutors said in court papers.

Christopher Paul Hasson is due to appear Thursday in federal court in Maryland after his arrest on gun and drug offenses, but prosecutors say those charges are the “proverbial tip of the iceberg.”

“The defendant is a domestic terrorist, bent on committing acts dangerous to human life that are intended to affect governmental conduct,” prosecutors wrote in court papers .

Hasson, who works at the Coast Guard’s headquarters in Washington, has espoused extremist views for years, according to prosecutors. Court papers detail a June 2017 draft email in which Hasson wrote that he was “dreaming of a way to kill almost every last person on the earth,” and pondering how he might be able to acquire anthrax and toxins to create botulism or a deadly influenza.

In the same email, Hasson described an “interesting idea” that included “biological attacks followed by attack on food supply” as well as a bombing and sniper attacks, according to court documents filed by prosecutors.

In September 2017, Hasson sent himself a draft letter that he had written to a neo-Nazi leader and “identified himself as a White Nationalist for over 30 years and advocated for ‘focused violence’ in order to establish a white homeland,” prosecutors wrote.

Hasson routinely read portions of a manifesto written by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik that prosecutors said instructs would-be assailants to collect firearms, food, disguises and survival tools, court papers said. Breivik, a right-wing extremist, is serving a 21-year sentence for killing 77 people in a 2011 bomb-and-shooting rampage.

Hasson also expressed admiration for Russia. “Looking to Russia with hopeful eyes or any land that despises the west’s liberalism,” he wrote in the draft email. Prosecutors say during the past two years he had regularly searched online for pro-Russian as well as neo-Nazi literature.

Prosecutors allege that Hasson visited thousands of websites that sold guns and researched military tactical manuals on improvised munitions.

Federal agents found 15 firearms — including several rifles — and over 1,000 rounds of ammunition inside Hasson’s basement apartment in Silver Spring, Maryland. They also found a container with more than 30 bottles that were labeled as human growth hormone, court papers said.

Prosecutors wrote that Hasson “began the process of targeting specific victims,” including several prominent Democrats in Congress and 2020 presidential candidates. In February 2018, he searched the internet for the “most liberal senators,” as well as searching “do senators have ss (secret service) protection” and “are supreme court justices protected,” according to the court filing.

Hasson’s list of prominent Democrats included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and presidential hopefuls Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris.

The list — created in a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet — also included mentions of John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, along with Reps. Beto O’Rourke, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Maxine Waters, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes and Joe Scarborough and CNN’s Chris Cuomo and Van Jones, according to the court filing.

Hasson appeared to be a chronic user of the opioid painkiller Tramadol and had purchased a flask filled with four ounces of “synthetic urine” online, prosecutors said. Authorities suspect Hasson had purchased fake urine to use in case he was randomly selected for a drug test.

The chief at the federal defender’s office in Maryland — which is representing Hasson — declined to comment on the allegations. The Coast Guard did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Hasson’s arrest. No one answered the door Wednesday at the home address for Hasson listed in public records.

Hasson’s arrest on Feb. 15 was first noted by Seamus Hughes, the deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University.

[enhanced_deficit]

Can't let that Smollet story simmer on the front page all by itself.


Feds: Coast Guard lieutenant compiled hit list of lawmakers

https://apnews.com/e919eb94af514cfc9a43982fc7e2e617

By MICHAEL BALSAMO
40 minutes ago

This image provided by the U.S. District Court in Maryland shows a photo of firearms and ammunition that was in the motion for detention pending trial in the case against Christopher Paul Hasson. Prosecutors say that Hasson, a Coast Guard lieutenant is a "domestic terrorist" who wrote about biological attacks and had a hit list that included prominent Democrats and media figures. He is due in court on Feb. 21 in Maryland. Prosecutors say Hasson espoused extremist views for years. Court papers say Hasson described an "interesting idea" in a 2017 draft email that included "biological attacks followed by attack on food supply." (U.S. District Court via AP)
WASHINGTON (AP) — A Coast Guard lieutenant who was arrested last week is a “domestic terrorist” who drafted an email discussing biological attacks and had what appeared to be a hit list that included prominent Democrats and media figures, prosecutors said in court papers.

Christopher Paul Hasson is due to appear Thursday in federal court in Maryland after his arrest on gun and drug offenses, but prosecutors say those charges are the “proverbial tip of the iceberg.”

“The defendant is a domestic terrorist, bent on committing acts dangerous to human life that are intended to affect governmental conduct,” prosecutors wrote in court papers .

Hasson, who works at the Coast Guard’s headquarters in Washington, has espoused extremist views for years, according to prosecutors. Court papers detail a June 2017 draft email in which Hasson wrote that he was “dreaming of a way to kill almost every last person on the earth,” and pondering how he might be able to acquire anthrax and toxins to create botulism or a deadly influenza.

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It is interesting how this news came out.
Assuming reporting is factual, his profile is somewhat similar to alleged PA synagogue shooter, with some common reported characteritiscs of white nationalism, anti-semitism, anti-liberalsim etc with one distinction that this guy is being reported as pro-Trump and PA shooter was reported as anti-Trump.






https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2019/02/christopher-hasson.jpg?quality=65&strip=all&w=780
Facebook/Getty Christopher Hasson, a Coast Guard lieutenant, was arrested on federal charges and has been called a "domestic terror

The list included:
-“Joey,” who prosecutors said is believed to be MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough
– MSNBC’s Chris Hayes
– “pelosi,” presumably House Speaker Nancy Pelosi
– “Sen Blumen Jew,” who prosecutors believe to be U.S. Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut.
– “Sen kaine,” believed to be U.S. Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia
– “Shumer,” presumed to be U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer of New York
– CNN’s Don Lemon
– “gillibran,” presumably U.S. Senator Kirsten Gillibrand
– “poca warren,” presumably U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts
– “cortez,” believed to be Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York

– “booker,” believed to be U.S. Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey
– Former U.S. Rep. Beto O’Rourke, of Texas
– U.S. Rep. Maxine Waters, of California
– U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson, of Texas


– “iihan omar,” presumed to be U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, of Minnesota
– CNN’s Chris Cuomo
– Democratic Socialists of America
– CNN’s Van Jones
– “podesta,” presumed to be former Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta



Hasson had searched for “most liberal senators,” “do senators have [secret service] protection,” and searched for Scarborough after seeing a headline in which the MSNBC host claimed Trump to be “the worst ever” president. He also looked up where the host’s show, “Morning Joe,” is filmed, along with his home, prosecutors said.

Hasson made many anti-Semitic remarks in emails obtained by the FBI, including writing, “I don’t know if there truly is a ‘conspiracy’ of ((((People)))) out to destroy me and mine, but there is an attack none the less. For that reason I will strike, I can’t just strike to wound I must find a way to deliver a blow that cannot be shaken off. Maybe many blows that will cause the needed turmoil.”
The “(((People)))” is a coded reference to Jewish people.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/02/christopher-hasson/






Pittsburgh synagogue shooting thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527815-Pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-thread&)


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https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/rober...ican-democrat/ (https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/robert-bowers-politics-trump-republican-democrat/)

[Pauls' Revere]

Strange picture, is he a C -cup?

[RonZeplin]

read portions of a manifesto written by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik

Federal agents found 15 firearms — including several rifles — and over 1,000 rounds of ammunition inside Hasson’s basement apartment in Silver Spring, Maryland. .

Ooooh how scary he read something, and he has some guns. Is that illegal now? Busted for a Federal Thought Crime. :redflag:

This appears to be little more than a thinly disguised Red Flag Gun Confiscation. Thank "Take the Guns First" Trump.

[phill4paul]

SPLC's "Hate Crime" map was release this week. Coincidence?

[tod evans]

Ooooh how scary he read something, and he has some guns. Is that illegal now? Busted for a Federal Thought Crime. :redflag:


^^^^^^^This! ^^^^^^^^^^

[RonZeplin]

^^^^^^^This! ^^^^^^^^^^Take the Guns First being "Pushed Along". Building up the system.


https://youtu.be/qE7ok8nlJtk
Chuckles Barr is now taking the guns.

President Trump's new US Attorney General, William Barr is working with Dianne Feinstein on "Reasonable Regulations" for guns, aka Gun Control including Red Flag Gun Confiscations.

https://pics.me.me/the-second-amendment-is-under-attack-the-constitution-must-be-31244671.png

[Occam's Banana]

Feds: Coast Guard lieutenant compiled hit list of lawmakers

https://apnews.com/e919eb94af514cfc9a43982fc7e2e617

By MICHAEL BALSAMO
40 minutes ago

This image provided by the U.S. District Court in Maryland shows a photo of firearms and ammunition that was in the motion for detention pending trial in the case against Christopher Paul Hasson. Prosecutors say that Hasson, a Coast Guard lieutenant is a "domestic terrorist" who wrote about biological attacks and had a hit list that included prominent Democrats and media figures. He is due in court on Feb. 21 in Maryland. Prosecutors say Hasson espoused extremist views for years. Court papers say Hasson described an "interesting idea" in a 2017 draft email that included "biological attacks followed by attack on food supply." (U.S. District Court via AP)
WASHINGTON (AP) — A Coast Guard lieutenant who was arrested last week is a “domestic terrorist” who drafted an email discussing biological attacks and had what appeared to be a hit list that included prominent Democrats and media figures, prosecutors said in court papers.

Christopher Paul Hasson is due to appear Thursday in federal court in Maryland after his arrest on gun and drug offenses, but prosecutors say those charges are the “proverbial tip of the iceberg.”

“The defendant is a domestic terrorist, bent on committing acts dangerous to human life that are intended to affect governmental conduct,” prosecutors wrote in court papers .

Hasson, who works at the Coast Guard’s headquarters in Washington, has espoused extremist views for years, according to prosecutors. Court papers detail a June 2017 draft email in which Hasson wrote that he was “dreaming of a way to kill almost every last person on the earth,” and pondering how he might be able to acquire anthrax and toxins to create botulism or a deadly influenza.

In the same email, Hasson described an “interesting idea” that included “biological attacks followed by attack on food supply” as well as a bombing and sniper attacks, according to court documents filed by prosecutors.

In September 2017, Hasson sent himself a draft letter that he had written to a neo-Nazi leader and “identified himself as a White Nationalist for over 30 years and advocated for ‘focused violence’ in order to establish a white homeland,” prosecutors wrote.

Hasson routinely read portions of a manifesto written by Norwegian mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik that prosecutors said instructs would-be assailants to collect firearms, food, disguises and survival tools, court papers said. Breivik, a right-wing extremist, is serving a 21-year sentence for killing 77 people in a 2011 bomb-and-shooting rampage.

Hasson also expressed admiration for Russia. “Looking to Russia with hopeful eyes or any land that despises the west’s liberalism,” he wrote in the draft email. Prosecutors say during the past two years he had regularly searched online for pro-Russian as well as neo-Nazi literature.

Prosecutors allege that Hasson visited thousands of websites that sold guns and researched military tactical manuals on improvised munitions.

Federal agents found 15 firearms — including several rifles — and over 1,000 rounds of ammunition inside Hasson’s basement apartment in Silver Spring, Maryland. They also found a container with more than 30 bottles that were labeled as human growth hormone, court papers said.

Prosecutors wrote that Hasson “began the process of targeting specific victims,” including several prominent Democrats in Congress and 2020 presidential candidates. In February 2018, he searched the internet for the “most liberal senators,” as well as searching “do senators have ss (secret service) protection” and “are supreme court justices protected,” according to the court filing.

Hasson’s list of prominent Democrats included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and presidential hopefuls Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris.

The list — created in a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet — also included mentions of John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, along with Reps. Beto O’Rourke, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Maxine Waters, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes and Joe Scarborough and CNN’s Chris Cuomo and Van Jones, according to the court filing.

Hasson appeared to be a chronic user of the opioid painkiller Tramadol and had purchased a flask filled with four ounces of “synthetic urine” online, prosecutors said. Authorities suspect Hasson had purchased fake urine to use in case he was randomly selected for a drug test.

The chief at the federal defender’s office in Maryland — which is representing Hasson — declined to comment on the allegations. The Coast Guard did not immediately respond to a request for comment on Hasson’s arrest. No one answered the door Wednesday at the home address for Hasson listed in public records.

Hasson’s arrest on Feb. 15 was first noted by Seamus Hughes, the deputy director of the Program on Extremism at George Washington University.

Okay. So ... what did this guy actually do? (I mean, besides buying some fake piss on the Internet and the like ...)

[Anti Federalist]

Okay. So ... what did this guy actually do? (I mean, besides buying some fake piss on the Internet and the like ...)

Nothing, so far as I can tell.

Pre crime Comrade.

[donnay]

This info immediately stuck out as suspect, to me. Also they reported it yesterday, yet they arrested him on Friday.


Prosecutors wrote that Hasson “began the process of targeting specific victims,” including several prominent Democrats in Congress and 2020 presidential candidates. In February 2018, he searched the internet for the “most liberal senators,” as well as searching “do senators have ss (secret service) protection” and “are supreme court justices protected,” according to the court filing.

Hasson’s list of prominent Democrats included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and presidential hopefuls Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris.

The list — created in a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet — also included mentions of John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, along with Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Maxine Waters, former Rep. Beto O’Rourke, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes and Joe Scarborough and CNN’s Chris Cuomo and Van Jones, according to the court filing.
https://apnews.com/e919eb94af514cfc9a43982fc7e2e617

[Occam's Banana]

Nothing, so far as I can.

Pre crime Comrade.

Precrime and thoughtcrime. Double whammy. George Orwell meets Philip K. Dick.

(I wonder if they could complete the trifecta and squeeze some facecrime in there somehow...)

[Brian4Liberty]

Ooooh how scary he read something, and he has some guns. Is that illegal now? Busted for a Federal Thought Crime. :redflag:

This appears to be little more than a thinly disguised Red Flag Gun Confiscation. Thank "Take the Guns First" Trump.

You beat me to it. We have us a full blown thought criminal there.


Okay. So ... what did this guy actually do? (I mean, besides buying some fake piss on the Internet and the like ...)

He provided the left with a propaganda story.


Precrime and thoughtcrime. Double whammy. George Orwell meets Philip K. Dick.

(I wonder if they could complete the trifecta and squeeze some facecrime in there somehow...)

He probably engaged in “fart rape”. Add that to his list of crimes.

[Anti Federalist]

He probably engaged in “fart rape”. Add that to his list of crimes.

Man spreading and man-splaining as well.

[Brian4Liberty]

This info immediately stuck out as suspect, to me. Also they reported it yesterday, yet they arrested him on Friday.

https://apnews.com/e919eb94af514cfc9a43982fc7e2e617

If this story is all true, this guy does sound like a potential terrorist or murderer. Might want to keep an eye on him. How does the criminal justice system treat other “potential” criminals?

But as you are saying, this story itself is very suspect. It is being reported and maybe prosecuted in a very political way. There is no doubt about that. It is a fact.

Now if one were to go just a single step down the conspiracy road, one might question the validity of some of the claims against him. That’s crazy talk though. Who could ever question the validity of a hysterical leftist media report, or the absolute honesty of a prosecutor?

We won’t even go two steps down the conspiracy path, and ask why he was composing and saving all of these draft emails and spreadsheets on his computer. The next step that would follow that would be to wonder if his computer had been compromised, and if something had been planted. But that would be three steps down the conspiracy trail, and that is too far to go without real evidence.

[kcchiefs6465]

Ooooh how scary he read something, and he has some guns. Is that illegal now? Busted for a Federal Thought Crime. :redflag:

This appears to be little more than a thinly disguised Red Flag Gun Confiscation. Thank "Take the Guns First" Trump.
He had a 1,000 rounds of ammunition. :astonished:

[Brian4Liberty]

Ooooh how scary he read something, and he has some guns. Is that illegal now? Busted for a Federal Thought Crime. :redflag ...

Imagine how many things that people who are political junkies must pull up on their computers? So many searches and links, to every type of website and story known to man. They could craft just about any case they want by cherry picking. For example:

“We have this person who goes by the name of AF, who is transgender and is planning on exposing himself at Walmart. Just look at his search and posting history on the internet, which is definitive proof.” ;)

[Brian4Liberty]

He had a 1,000 rounds of ammunition. :astonished:

OMG! A cache! A stockpile! That could last him at least ten trips to the range if he carefully limits how much he shoots!

[kcchiefs6465]

OMG! A cache! A stockpile! That could last him at least ten trips to the range if he carefully limits how much he shoots!
You don't need more than two shotgun shells for self defense. That's how Uncle Joe does it.

[kcchiefs6465]

If only Benchmade would have torched a few more guns in half we wouldn't have to worry about crazies like this guy. SMH.

[donnay]

If this story is all true, this guy does sound like a potential terrorist or murderer. Might want to keep an eye on him. How does the criminal justice system treat other “potential” criminals?

But as you are saying, this story itself is very suspect. It is being reported and maybe prosecuted in a very political way. There is no doubt about that. It is a fact.

Now if one were to go just a single step down the conspiracy road, one might question the validity of some of the claims against him. That’s crazy talk though. Who could ever question the validity of a hysterical leftist media report, or the absolute honesty of a prosecutor?

We won’t even go two steps down the conspiracy path, and ask why he was composing and saving all of these draft emails and spreadsheets on his computer. The next step that would follow that would be to wonder if his computer had been compromised, and if something had been planted. But that would be three steps down the conspiracy trail, and that is too far to go without real evidence.

It just seems to me that they couldn't stir up :bigpoo: about the Jusse fiasco and they needed something else really quick to divert the people's attention off Jusse being arrested for his scheme.

They are painting this guy as a Trump supporter without coming out and saying it. Of course the MSM and Democrats used the Jusse scheme/Covington school boys to try and create an up-rising, and it blew up in their faces and failed.

Motive: The Coast Guard suffered during the shutdown, and the very people named on Hasson’s alleged list are the very people that helded up and accused Trump of manufacturing a crisis on the Southern Border, causing the lengthy shutdown.

This is something that needs to be watched closely, IMHO.

[enhanced_deficit]

Early reports can be foggy/inaccurate/incomplete, lets wait till all the facts come out before jumping to conclusions.

[juleswin]

It is interesting how this news came out.
Assuming reporting is factual, his profile is somewhat similar to alleged PA synagogue shooter, with some common reported characteritiscs of white nationalism, anti-semitism, anti-liberalsim etc with one distinction that this guy is being reported as pro-Trump and PA shooter was reported as anti-Trump.




https://heavy.com/news/2019/02/christopher-hasson/






Pittsburgh synagogue shooting thread (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527815-Pittsburgh-synagogue-shooting-thread&)


https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/rober...ican-democrat/ (https://heavy.com/news/2018/10/robert-bowers-politics-trump-republican-democrat/)

Wow, just wow on what Robert Bowers was posting. So now we wait to see what this new guys has been posting online.

[Brian4Liberty]

White people, there's something you need to learn from the case of Coast Guard Lt Christopher Paul Hasson (https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/coast-guard-lt-christopher-paul-hasson-mass-murder-plot-terrorism-democrats-media-maga-trump-a8791311.html)


The far right in the US likes to spread the idea that Muslims — and in particular Muslim immigrants — are uniquely dangerous to America, and that they can never fully integrate. Even born and bred American citizens who happen to be Muslim are up for suspicion. Hoda Muthana, who lives in a refugee camp with her baby, has seemingly dominated the minds of senior politicians for days, while Christopher Paul Hasson, who had allegedly made plans to kill multiple people and stockpiled the necessary weaponry, has seemingly flown under the radar.


Really, we can’t allow this kind of thing to fly “under the radar”. Every draft email and spreadsheet on every computer must be inspected for ungood thought by a government authorized security partner like Google and the SPLC. It’s for the children. Otherwise, people will die.

[Anti Globalist]

Trying to paint this guy as a Trump supporter I see.

[phill4paul]

It sucks to be caught up by your web history when you're an aspiring writer researching a home grown white national terrorist plot line for your first novel.

[Valli6]

Bunch of twitter clowns are calling Rand out for referring to "violence and hatred" which "comes from all sides". After Rand's been shot at by one lunatic, then ambushed by another, the left is still intent on pushing the myth that it only comes from the right.
:rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1099093089094983681
1099093089094983681

[Valli6]

It sucks to be caught up by your web history when you're an aspiring writer researching a home grown white national terrorist plot line for your first novel.
Ya know, I kept wondering if that was what was going on here also. He's reading and writing all this stuff, but never actually acts on any of it, doesn't seem to have contacted anyone on his "list". We'll see. Sounds like the only person he's "terrorized" is the prosecutor that wrote the report.

[Brian4Liberty]

Bunch of twitter clowns are calling Rand out for referring to "violence and hatred" which "comes from all sides". After Rand's been shot at by one lunatic, then ambushed by another, the left is still intent on pushing the myth that it only comes from the right.
:rolleyes:
https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1099093089094983681
1099093089094983681

Does the SPLC have a troll farm?

[phill4paul]

Ya know, I kept wondering if that was what was going on here also. He's reading and writing all this stuff, but never actually acts on any of it, doesn't seem to have contacted anyone on his "list". We'll see. Sounds like the only person he's "terrorized" is the prosecutor that wrote the report.

FBI: "The perpetrator also had in his van, a length of rope, a tarp, surgical gloves, a knife, and a roll of duct tape, the kind of tape often used to bind the wrists and ankles of kidnap victims"

Fact: Rope was used to bind up a tarp obviously used under a tent and the sleeping bags from a camping trip. The gloves were found in an ordinary minimal first aid kit. The knife was a pocket knife that can be purchased at any Walmart, found in a tool box. And the duct tape was standard tape, nothing special about it, also in the same tool box as a tire jack and a screwdriver. Pieces of tape were also found holding together a rip in one of the van's seats.


Anything and everything can be twisted and used against you in a court of law.


I'm not saying that he didn't break the law. However, the only law I can think of that he broke might be 'conspiracy to commit....' And even that might prove hard to prove. Guess what we will have to see what else the FBI comes up with.

[Zippyjuan]

Okay. So ... what did this guy actually do? (I mean, besides buying some fake piss on the Internet and the like ...)

Well, we do need to keep all mooslims and Mexicans out of the country because of what one of them might do. Is that pre-crime? All them rapists, killers and terrorists.

[Swordsmyth]

FBI: "The perpetrator also had in his van, a length of rope, a tarp, surgical gloves, a knife, and a roll of duct tape, the kind of tape often used to bind the wrists and ankles of kidnap victims"

Fact: Rope was used to bind up a tarp obviously used under a tent and the sleeping bags from a camping trip. The gloves were found in an ordinary minimal first aid kit. The knife was a pocket knife that can be purchased at any Walmart, found in a tool box. And the duct tape was standard tape, nothing special about it, also in the same tool box as a tire jack and a screwdriver. Pieces of tape were also found holding together a rip in one of the van's seats.


Anything and everything can be twisted and used against you in a court of law.


I'm not saying that he didn't break the law. However, the only law I can think of that he broke might be 'conspiracy to commit....' And even that might prove hard to prove. Guess what we will have to see what else the FBI comes up with.
It takes two to conspire.

Even if he is a real nutjob they pounced too soon because they wanted the headlines.

[Swordsmyth]

Well, we do need to keep all mooslims and Mexicans out of the country because of what one of them might do. Is that pre-crime? All them rapists, killers and terrorists.
They don't have a right to be here so we can be as cautious about them as we like and we aren't locking them up or executing them before they break any of our laws.

[Occam's Banana]

Okay. So ... what did this guy actually do? (I mean, besides buying some fake piss on the Internet and the like ...)

Well, we do need to keep all mooslims and Mexicans out of the country because of what one of them might do. Is that pre-crime? All them rapists, killers and terrorists.

It is certainly "precrime" if any of those people are punished or persecuted for "what one of them might do". But it is debatable whether merely "keep out of the country" qualifies as punishing or persecuting them. And in any case, those who support immigration restrictions can simply say that people who violate those restrictions are, [I]post hoc, guilty of the crime of "trespassing" in some manner. Regardless of whether you agree with that, it is not an application of the concept of "precrime".

But what does any of this have to do with the guy in the OP? :confused:

Why derail this thread into the abyss of yet another immigration-policy pissing match ... ?

[enhanced_deficit]

Wow, just wow on what Robert Bowers was posting. So now we wait to see what this new guys has been posting online.

White House is taking bold steps both domestically and globally against such conspiracy theories.

Trump administration launches global effort to fight anti-semitism (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531728-Trump-administration-launches-global-effort-to-fight-anti-semitism&)

[Zippyjuan]

They don't have a right to be here so we can be as cautious about them as we like and we aren't locking them up or executing them before they break any of our laws.

Nah- we don't lock up any of them.


But they are still children in cages, not gangsters, not delinquents. Just children, 900 of them, in a makeshift border-town processing center that is larger than a football field. They pass the day sitting on benches or lying side by side on tiny blue mattresses pressed up against each other on nearly every square inch of the floor in the fenced areas.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/18/arizona-immigrant-children-holding-area-tour/10780449/

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[Anti Federalist]

Nah- we don't lock up any of them.



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And in a few years they will be voting "en bloc" to extort me at the barrel of a government gun and displacing me and mine, as a matter of aggression.

Child warriors are not a new thing, and are nothing new in the fifth gen demographic war being waged now.

Fuck them, ship them right back to where they came from.

[Swordsmyth]

Nah- we don't lock up any of them.



https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/immigration/2014/06/18/arizona-immigrant-children-holding-area-tour/10780449/

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I said "before they break our laws", those people broke our laws.

[enhanced_deficit]

Strange picture, is he a C -cup?

No idea, sometimes camera / lighting can do tricks too.

But this kind of question can confuse or mislead people before all the facts come out.

[Pauls' Revere]

No idea, sometimes camera / lighting can do tricks too.

But this kind of question can confuse or mislead people before all the facts come out.

True, I should be more careful with pronouns too.

[enhanced_deficit]

True, I should be more careful with pronouns too.

Can never go wrong by being more careful, situations is still bit too polarized after recent Wall prototypes demolition-big gummit government shutdown showdown.

[Schifference]

And in a few years they will be voting "en bloc" to extort me at the barrel of a government gun and displacing me and mine, as a matter of aggression.

Child warriors are not a new thing, and are nothing new in the fifth gen demographic war being waged now.

$#@! them, ship them right back to where they came from.

Is it safe to have someone with your mindset commandeering a vessel?

[Zippyjuan]

I said "before they break our laws", those people broke our laws.

They are awaiting hearings to determine whether or not they did. Innocent until proven guilty?

[Anti Federalist]

Is it safe to have someone with your mindset commandeering a vessel?

I'm retired.

[Schifference]

I'm retired.

That is good news. I mean for you. How long you been retired?

[phill4paul]

This news story broke the day Jussie Smollet was charged with his hoax. I've heard little about it since.

[Anti Globalist]

Be careful of your search history folks. FBI might use it as a means to think you're plotting something.

[brushfire]

Be careful of your search history folks. FBI might use it as a means to think you're plotting something.

I'm making a plot for them to all line up and kiss my fking anti-government a$$...

[Swordsmyth]

They are awaiting hearings to determine whether or not they did. Innocent until proven guilty?
LOL

They were caught in the act, if you are caught in the act of a crime you may spend time in jail too.

[timosman]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-military-has-a-white-power-problem/2019/03/08/e5ba3f92-41a7-11e9-922c-64d6b7840b82_story.html


March 8, 2019

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This image provided by the U.S. District Court in Maryland shows firearms and ammunition that was in the motion for detention pending trial in the case against Christopher Paul Hasson. (AP)

Juliette Kayyem, a former assistant secretary at the Department of Homeland Security under President Barack Obama, is faculty chair of the homeland security program at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government.

It wasn’t long ago that the question of what to call Islamic State-inspired terrorists turned Democrats into verbal gymnasts. The term “radical Islamic terrorists” was shunned by those who feared that it too easily vilified a religion and was too likely to alienate our Muslim allies in the fight against global terrorism. In the Barack Obama years, we were often compelled to use words such as “violent extremism” instead, though the very vagueness of the phrase risked muting the necessary actions needed to counter the threat from those using violence in the name of Islam. It was, from a personal perspective, an exhausting exercise.

As the 2016 election approached, then-candidate Donald Trump weaponized this habit and drove it home. “These are radical Islamic terrorists, and she won’t even mention the word, and nor will President Obama,” he said, referring to Hillary Clinton at a presidential debate in October 2016. “Now, to solve a problem, you have to be able to state what the problem is, or at least say the name.”

Calling an ideology out for what animates it gives clarity to the public. It allows the public to see the threat as a trend rather than an aberration. And it isn’t as if leaders of Muslim nations don’t know that terrorism is being invoked in their name.

But when it comes to homegrown forms of terrorism, Trump officials not only won’t name the problem; they also will barely talk about it.

It has been several weeks since Lt. Christopher Paul Hasson, 49, a neo-Nazi member of the U.S. Coast Guard, was arrested for allegedly planning attacks “to murder innocent civilians on a scale rarely seen in this country,” according to government charging documents. At his home in Silver Spring, investigators found 15 guns and 1,000 rounds of ammunition but cautioned that their investigation was just beginning. Inspired by the Norwegian right-wing extremist and mass murderer Anders Behring Breivik, Hasson had, federal agents said, compiled his own hit list of Democratic leaders and media figures. A key piece of evidence against Hasson: He would allegedly log on to his work computer and search previous mass murders.

But apart from statements by the prosecutors, both the Justice Department and armed services have been exceptionally quiet about Hasson and the problem he represents. Trump, in response to a question, merely stated, “I think it’s a shame.”

For a president who found a way to both-sides a neo-Nazi rally, the hypocrisy is not surprising. But by failing to name Hasson’s white supremacist ideology, the military risks missing dangerous subcultures in its force structure and then finding ways to remove them.

And there is a trend. A Military Times poll in 2017 found that about 22 percent of service members have seen evidence of “white nationalism or racist ideology within the armed forces.” For nonwhite service members, the figure exceeded 50 percent. Respondents noted racist and anti-Semitic language in casual conversations, tattoos aligned with white power groups, Confederate flag displays and swastika graffiti as evidence of hate-filled ideology.

Meanwhile, the military has reported to Congress that only 18 members, out of 1.3 million serving each year, have been discharged or disciplined for racist activity since 2013.

These figures suggest that the uniformed military services view this problem in terms of actionable cases, not as a systemic ideology to be identified and discarded, root and stem.

If the gap between having hate-filled or racist views and engaging in conduct worthy of a discharge or discipline remains large, these polling numbers are not reassuring. The military — an institution that has often led the way on America’s path toward inclusion — needs to address the racism in its midst and the forces that can lead to radicalization. Those who hate cannot be permitted to use the skills they learn — weaponry, discipline, secrecy — while in uniform or after as veterans.

The Hasson saga should lead the services to look harder for warning signs during a soldier’s recruitment and service. Federal officials reported Hasson had been an extremist for years and allegedly fed his hatred at work: He contacted other like-minded souls from his office computer. How widespread is this problem? The Pentagon needs to find out more than it knows.

And it can start by giving the problem a name: the alt-right in uniform. White nationalism in uniform. Military racist extremism. Call it something. Just don’t ignore it.

“To solve a problem,” as Trump said, “you have to be able to state what the problem is.” Exactly.

[Occam's Banana]

Feds: Coast Guard lieutenant compiled hit list of lawmakers

[...]

WASHINGTON (AP) — A Coast Guard lieutenant who was arrested last week is a “domestic terrorist” who drafted an email discussing biological attacks and had what appeared to be a hit list that included prominent Democrats and media figures, prosecutors said in court papers.

[...]

Prosecutors wrote that Hasson “began the process of targeting specific victims,” including several prominent Democrats in Congress and 2020 presidential candidates. In February 2018, he searched the internet for the “most liberal senators,” as well as searching “do senators have ss (secret service) protection” and “are supreme court justices protected,” according to the court filing.

Hasson’s list of prominent Democrats included House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and presidential hopefuls Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker and Kamala Harris.

The list — created in a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet — also included mentions of John Podesta, who was Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, along with Reps. Beto O’Rourke, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Maxine Waters, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes and Joe Scarborough and CNN’s Chris Cuomo and Van Jones, according to the court filing.

[...]


If, tomorrow, I tell the press that, like, a gang banger will get shot, or a truckload of soldiers will be blown up, a U.S. President will make a "kill list" of people who will then be executed without due process of law assassinated (such as Abdulrahman al-Awlaki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdulrahman_al-Awlaki)?), nobody panics, because it's all "part of the plan" ...

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... but when I say that one little ol' mayor will die Coast Guard lieutenant will draft an email and create an Excel spreadsheet "hit list", well then everyone loses their minds!

[Anti Federalist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKbtvxAX_jI

[Valli6]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/25/coast-guard-terror-plot-released-bail

COAST GUARD LT. ACCUSED OF PLOTTING TERROR ATTACK RELEASED ON BAIL
Amber Athey - 4:43 PM 04/25/2019

A federal judge ruled that Christopher Hasson, who is facing weapons and drugs charges, does not meet a standard for continued detention. Prosecutors claim Hasson was stockpiling weapons, drugs and ammunition in his Silver Spring, Maryland, home while planning a large-scale terror attack, but Hasson’s defense attorney noted that her client was not indicted on charges related to terrorism or attempted murder.

The judge still expressed “grave concerns” about the Coast Guardsman and said the details of his release will be determined at a future hearing.

“He’s got to have a whole lot of supervision,” Judge Charles Day said. “Somebody who’s got eyes and ears on him like nobody’s business.”

Court records filed in U.S. District Court in Maryland say Hasson was intending to commit “acts dangerous to human life that are intended to affect governmental conduct” and hoped to “establish a white homeland.”

The lieutenant also allegedly thought of ways to “kill almost every last person on earth” through the use of bombings, sniper attacks and biological weapons...

https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/25/coast-guard-terror-plot-released-bail

[Brian4Liberty]

https://dailycaller.com/2019/04/25/coast-guard-terror-plot-released-bail

So they haven’t really charged him with anything except the good old reliable drugs and weapons charges. A prosecutor could indict a ham sandwich on those.