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Valli6
02-15-2019, 02:51 PM
"disgruntled worker"

Active Shooter At Henry Pratt Building In Aurora: Cops
SWAT teams are present at the scene of an active shooting in Aurora.

By Lisa Marie Farver, Patch Staff | Feb 15, 2019 3:08 pm ET | Updated Feb 15, 2019 3:44 pm ET

AURORA, IL -- Officers are responding to reports of an active shooter at the Henry Pratt building in Aurora, police confirmed by phone Friday afternoon. Police and SWAT teams were swarming the scene as of 2 p.m. Multiple injuries have been reported, according to ABC.

There are "multiple casualties, we are worried about fatalities but we don't have that confirmed yet,"Chuck Goudie and the iTeam reported.

Aurora police said the shooter was still being sought on the premises at 2:40 p.m.
More: https://patch.com/illinois/aurora/active-shooter-henry-pratt-building-auorra-cops

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Swordsmyth
02-15-2019, 02:58 PM
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No.5185527 (https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/5184751.html#5185527)

Feb 15 2019 05:11:04 (EST)

(https://qanon.pub/#t1550225464) Be alert next 10 days.
FF attempts may be carried out in attempt to change narrative (neg optics).
High possibility of ‘multiple day’ coverage event forcing pause on news.
See something > Say something.
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brushfire
02-15-2019, 03:23 PM
The shooter has been apprehended ~3pm central

RonZeplin
02-15-2019, 03:58 PM
Aurora Shooter In Custody; 4 Cops, Civilians Hurt: Reports (https://patch.com/illinois/aurora/active-shooter-henry-pratt-building-auorra-cops)

Aurora spokesperson Clayton Muhammad told NBC that the four officers were in stable condition. The facility remains on lockdown, with multiple civilians wounded, Muhammad said. He would not comment on the number or whether there were fatalities.

"Our top priority is the safety and security of everyone involved now that the shooter has been neutralized," Muhammad said.

"(The shooter) just went ballistic," John Probst, who works at Henry Pratt and was in the building at the time told ABC. "[One victim] came running down; he was bleeding pretty bad."

Probst said he recognized the shooter as a coworker. Probst said he was "rolling down the aisles" with "a pistol with a laser on it."

City officials tweeted at 3 p.m. that the shooter had been apprehended.

https://patch.com/illinois/aurora/active-shooter-henry-pratt-building-auorra-cops

brushfire
02-15-2019, 04:33 PM
Last time I checked, police officers were civilians too. Maybe they're looking to just start referring to them as military? Were there soldiers on site too? Why the need to label them civilians?

TheTexan
02-15-2019, 04:34 PM
The Daily Herald reported that four City of Aurora police officers have been wounded

I hope they're OK. It would be just horrible if any of them died.

Zippyjuan
02-15-2019, 05:34 PM
Was it an illegal immigrant Mooslim terrorist who walked freely across the Mexican border?

Brian4Liberty
02-15-2019, 06:16 PM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/eyewitness-to-aurora-shooting-gunman-is-a-co-worker-at-henry-pratt-company


A laid-off steel worker killed at least four people at his place of work in Aurora, Illinois on Friday, officials said.

Gary Martin, 45, also shot four police officers at the Henry Pratt Company west of Chicago. Two officers were fired upon immediately when they responded to a call of gunfire at the steel plant, officials said, and two other officers were fired upon when they arrived. Police found gunshot victims inside the building. Martin is dead, authorities said.


Six people died --- including the gunman --- in a workplace shooting at a manufacturing firm Friday afternoon, and five officers were struck by gunfire, officials said Friday. Aurora Police Chief Kristen Ziman confirmed the shooter, Gary Martin, 45, was killed in a shootout with police. Police believe he was an employee, and said they did not know the motive.
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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-what-we-know-now-about-the-aurora-shooting-20190215-story.html

Brian4Liberty
02-16-2019, 11:09 AM
Was it an illegal immigrant Mooslim terrorist who walked freely across the Mexican border?

What makes you think he is a "Mooslim"?

juleswin
02-16-2019, 11:14 AM
What makes you think he is a "Mooslim"?

He is asking if it was a muslim not saying it was a muslim that did it

Zippyjuan
02-16-2019, 03:08 PM
Was it an illegal immigrant Mooslim terrorist who walked freely across the Mexican border?

What makes you think he is a "Mooslim"?

Aren't they the people we are supposed to be afraid of because they are all coming here to kill us? Yet shooters tend to be white American males.

devil21
02-16-2019, 03:11 PM
Last time I checked, police officers were civilians too. Maybe they're looking to just start referring to them as military? Were there soldiers on site too? Why the need to label them civilians?

Hmm....are they? Notice they wear the same gold fringe flag patch as .mil does.

Brian4Liberty
02-16-2019, 03:19 PM
Aren't they the people we are supposed to be afraid of because they are all coming here to kill us? Yet shooters tend to be white American males.

Ah, those “white American males” that keep shooting everyone. The usual suspects. Your confusion in this case is understandable, considering that the media had a very difficult time finding out and reporting much about this shooter.

Dr.3D
02-16-2019, 03:19 PM
Shooter kills 5 at suburban Chicago business; 5 officers wounded (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/2019/02/15/active-shooter-reported-suburban-chicago-business/)

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/resizer/0UrjSUeUUzQ4ibJb7D-cDrDiIsI=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-raycom.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GWRSGIYBBVA3TLBX2KYPRMPHSI.JPG

Zippyjuan
02-16-2019, 03:26 PM
Shooter kills 5 at suburban Chicago business; 5 officers wounded (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/2019/02/15/active-shooter-reported-suburban-chicago-business/)

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/resizer/0UrjSUeUUzQ4ibJb7D-cDrDiIsI=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-raycom.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GWRSGIYBBVA3TLBX2KYPRMPHSI.JPG

So it was still a US citizen male just not white.

acptulsa
02-16-2019, 03:27 PM
Aren't they the people we are supposed to be afraid of because they are all coming here to kill us? Yet shooters tend to be white American males.


Shooter kills 5 at suburban Chicago business; 5 officers wounded (http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/2019/02/15/active-shooter-reported-suburban-chicago-business/)

http://www.tucsonnewsnow.com/resizer/0UrjSUeUUzQ4ibJb7D-cDrDiIsI=/1400x0/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-raycom.s3.amazonaws.com/public/GWRSGIYBBVA3TLBX2KYPRMPHSI.JPG

You don't seem to be any better at identifying white people than msnbc, zippy.

Zippyjuan
02-16-2019, 04:04 PM
Aren't they the people we are supposed to be afraid of because they are all coming here to kill us? Yet shooters tend to be white American males.

This post is racist? (somebody just repped that it is)

(actually it is against racist thinking that because of somebody's race or religion they are going to harm "us" when those most likely to harm "us" are our own neighbors and family).

parocks
02-17-2019, 08:45 AM
party on

Stratovarious
02-17-2019, 09:13 AM
Was it an illegal immigrant Mooslim terrorist who walked freely across the Mexican border?

Where's your Troll Charts?


Troll Button :negative:

phill4paul
02-17-2019, 12:38 PM
And so, yet again, another individual that was firearms prohibited and was known by 'authorities' to be in possession of a firearm.


Authorities said Martin obtained an Illinois Firearm Owner's Identification Card in January 2014 despite his felony record, which Aurora Police Chief Kristen Ziman said would not necessarily have shown up on a criminal-background check. Some states and local jurisdictions provide incomplete records to the federal database, and sometimes human error leads to missed information. The card is required to buy guns and ammunition in the state.

Martin later bought a Smith & Wesson .40-caliber handgun and applied for the concealed carry permit, which required fingerprinting. During that process, officials discovered Martin's felony conviction. His application for the permit was rejected, and his FOID card was revoked.

Those whose FOIDs have been revoked receive a notice from the Illinois State Police, telling them to surrender the card and list all the firearms in possession. But the law does not require authorities to confiscate the firearms. Instead, the letter asks people to specify that they either no longer have possession of the firearms or have given them to another person.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/illinois-shooting-man-killed-five-093722063.html


MOAR LAWZ! NEEDZ MOAR LAWZ!!!!!!

Brian4Liberty
02-17-2019, 12:53 PM
And so, yet again, another individual that was firearms prohibited and was known by 'authorities' to be in possession of a firearm.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/illinois-shooting-man-killed-five-093722063.html


MOAR LAWZ! NEEDZ MOAR LAWZ!!!!!!

Yep, always new laws. “We don’t enforce the existing laws, but if you pass more laws and give us more power, we might enforce them.”

Anti Federalist
02-17-2019, 12:54 PM
So it was still a US citizen male just not white.

I was wondering why this fell off the radar so fast.

Now I know.

Thanks Zip.

Anti Globalist
02-17-2019, 12:56 PM
New gun laws will work this time guys. I swear.

Brian4Liberty
02-17-2019, 12:57 PM
This post is racist? (somebody just repped that it is)


shooters tend to be white American males

(actually it is against racist thinking that because of somebody's race or religion they are going to harm "us" when those most likely to harm "us" are our own neighbors and family).

You made a statistical generalization (that is questionable) about a race and sex. Is that “racist”?

Anti Federalist
02-17-2019, 12:58 PM
This post is racist? (somebody just repped that it is)

(actually it is against racist thinking that because of somebody's race or religion they are going to harm "us" when those most likely to harm "us" are our own neighbors and family).

Well, yah, assuming your family and neighbors are black men aged 18-35.

Brian4Liberty
02-17-2019, 12:58 PM
So it was still a US citizen male just not white.

So is he “Mooslim” or not? You brought it up...

Zippyjuan
02-17-2019, 01:02 PM
You made a statistical generalization (that is questionable) about a race and sex. Is that “racist”?

It is true that most mass shooters are white males. If I tried to generalize that this means that white men are mostly shooters, then it becomes racist.

Brian4Liberty
02-17-2019, 01:05 PM
It is true that most mass shooters are white males. If I tried to generalize that this means that white men are mostly shooters, then it becomes racist.

So now you have changed it to “mass” shooters. Was this a “mass” shooting incident?

Zippyjuan
02-17-2019, 01:06 PM
Well, yah, assuming your family and neighbors are black men aged 18-35.

You are considerably more likely to be killed by a white person if you yourself are a white person (most people are killed by people they know).


Overall, killings of blacks by whites and whites by blacks accounted for about 12 percent of the roughly 6,000 homicides last year in which police had information about the race of both victim and killer – a slight increase from around 11 percent in 2014.

https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/7182f95/2147483647/resize/970x/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcom-usnews-beam-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fff%2F64%2F129ce5094f2f840 a2291e0221330%2F160929-interracial-homicides-graphic.png

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

Zippyjuan
02-17-2019, 01:11 PM
So now you have changed it to “mass” shooters. Was this a “mass” shooting incident?

The definition varies but generally three or more shot (not necessarily killed) is considered a "mass shooting". Yes, according to that, it qualifies.

loveshiscountry
02-17-2019, 01:13 PM
This post is racist? (somebody just repped that it is)

(actually it is against racist thinking that because of somebody's race or religion they are going to harm "us" when those most likely to harm "us" are our own neighbors and family).

It's not about "us". It's about the fact that children raised in single parent families have a much higher rate of criminality. Seventy percent of black children are raised in single parent families.

Anti Federalist
02-17-2019, 01:14 PM
You are considerably more likely to be killed by a white person if you yourself are a white person (most people are killed by people they know).



https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/7182f95/2147483647/resize/970x/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcom-usnews-beam-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fff%2F64%2F129ce5094f2f840 a2291e0221330%2F160929-interracial-homicides-graphic.png

https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-29/race-and-homicide-in-america-by-the-numbers

Interesting.

The number of whites killed by blacks is roughly twice the number of blacks killed by whites.

If I were to move to, say, the south side of Chicago, or the 9th Ward of New Orleans or Baltimore, I'd say my risk would increase substantially, wouldn't you?

Zippyjuan
02-17-2019, 01:19 PM
In 2011, in incidents of murder for which the relationships of murder victims and offenders were known, 54.3 percent were killed by someone they knew (acquaintance, neighbor, friend, boyfriend, etc.); 24.8 percent of victims were slain by family members. The relationship of murder victims and offenders was unknown in 44.1 percent of murder and nonnegligent manslaughter incidents in 2011. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Table 10.)

Of the female murder victims for whom the relationships to their offenders were known, 36.5 percent were murdered by their husbands or boyfriends. (Based on Expanded Homicide Data Tables 2 and 10.)

Of the murders for which the circumstance surrounding the murder was known,
42.9 percent of victims were murdered during arguments (including romantic triangles) in 2011. Felony circumstances (rape, robbery, burglary, etc.) accounted for 23.1 percent of murders. Circumstances were unknown for 38.0 percent of reported homicides.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded/expanded-homicide-data

Brian4Liberty
02-17-2019, 01:43 PM
The definition varies but generally three or more shot (not necessarily killed) is considered a "mass shooting". Yes, according to that, it qualifies.

So if three people are hit in a drive by shooting, then it is a “mass” shooting?

Brian4Liberty
02-17-2019, 01:53 PM
Aren't they the people we are supposed to be afraid of because they are all coming here to kill us? Yet shooters tend to be white black American males.


It is true that most mass drive-by shooters are white black males. If I tried to generalize that this means that white black men are mostly shooters, then it becomes racist.

Hmmm.

So if the topic was a drive-by shooting, and you said the above, then it would all be kosher? No one could conceivably call that racist?

Brian4Liberty
02-17-2019, 01:57 PM
Interesting.

The number of whites killed by blacks is roughly twice the number of blacks killed by whites.

If I were to move to, say, the south side of Chicago, or the 9th Ward of New Orleans or Baltimore, I'd say my risk would increase substantially, wouldn't you?

Lies, damned lies, and government statistics. It’s very easy to manipulate statistics, and also to spin and distort valid statistics.

Swordsmyth
02-17-2019, 05:26 PM
You made a statistical generalization (that is questionable) about a race and sex. Is that “racist”?
Why is zippy not banned yet?