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torchbearer
12-13-2007, 02:18 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22246005/

SAN FRANCISCO - Global warming may not be the only thing melting Greenland. Scientists have found at least one natural magma hotspot under the Arctic island that could be pitching in.

In recent years, Greenland’s ice has been melting more and flowing faster into the sea — a record amount of ice melted from the frozen mass this summer, according to recently released data — and Earth’s rising temperatures are suspected to be the main culprit.

But clues to a new natural contribution to the melt arose when scientists discovered a thin spot in the Earth’s crust under the northeast corner of the Greenland Ice Sheet where heat from Earth’s insides could seep through, scientists will report here this week at a meeting of the American Geophysical Union.

“The behavior of the great ice sheets is an important barometer of global climate change,” said lead scientist Ralph von Frese of Ohio State University. “However, to effectively separate and quantify human impacts on climate change, we must understand the natural impacts too.”

The corner of Greenland where the hotspot was found had no known ice streams, the rivers of ice that run through the main ice sheet and out to sea, until one was discovered in 1991. What exactly caused the stream to form was uncertain.

“Ice streams have to have some reason for being there,” von Frese said, “and it’s pretty surprising to suddenly see one in the middle of the ice sheet.”

The newly discovered hotspot, an area where Earth’s crust is thinner, allowing hot magma from Earth's mantle to come closer to the surface, is just below the ice sheet and could have caused it to form, von Frese and his team suggest.

“Where the crust is thicker, things are cooler, and where it’s thinner, things are warmer,” von Frese explained. “And under a big place like Greenland or Antarctica, natural variations in the crust will make some parts of the ice sheet warmer than others.”

What caused the hotspot to suddenly form is another mystery.

“It could be that there’s a volcano down there,” he said, “but we think it’s probably just the way the heat is being distributed by the rock topography at the base of the ice.”

torchbearer
12-13-2007, 02:56 PM
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johngr
12-13-2007, 03:21 PM
Maybe its coming from the orange rectangle or the blacked-out approximately 50 km long rectangular area parallel to it. (google maps 69.333835, -43.505859 click on satellite and zoom out)

Tina
12-13-2007, 03:23 PM
interesting

Wingman
12-13-2007, 03:26 PM
almost certainly an Area 51 galactic armageddon project

i would advise caution.. extreme caution.. before exterminating with extreme prejudice...!

KAPPPOOOOOWWWAAAA!!!!

hm on the other hand it might just be due to the war in Iraq. All those bullets and bombs have been shaking the Earth, causing earthquakes and tsunamis (2 already).

Tina
12-13-2007, 03:31 PM
This is when you really have to be concerned with another ice age. The melting ice will slow or stop the gulf stream.

torchbearer
12-13-2007, 03:52 PM
This is when you really have to be concerned with another ice age. The melting ice will slow or stop the gulf stream.

Yeh, and we need to know if there is magma activity and if its causing glacier melting... i don't think we have the technology to do anything about it...

Tina
12-13-2007, 04:02 PM
From what I've read there isn't. Slowing emissions isn't going to fix this IMO. It's a phenomenon that seems to be cyclic. If you look at maps from the previous ice age the upper half of North America was iced.

I'm not saying mankind shouldn't be held responsible for polluting the planet, but this is beyond our control.

torchbearer
12-13-2007, 04:17 PM
From what I've read there isn't. Slowing emissions isn't going to fix this IMO. It's a phenomenon that seems to be cyclic. If you look at maps from the previous ice age the upper half of North America was iced.

I'm not saying mankind shouldn't be held responsible for polluting the planet, but this is beyond our control.

True, we can't stop the earth cycles anymore than we can stop winter of summer... at the same time we should always use caution as to what we put into our atmosphere... not out fear for the earth, but out of fear for our survival.