US plan for Latin America: ‘Venezuela is just the beginning’ – Daniel McAdams

[PAF]

https://youtu.be/qHhfGXZoQZE

[acptulsa]

That's not the surprising thing. The surprising thing is, both conservatives and liberals consider violent intervention "principled", and treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".

[Ender]

That's not the surprising thing. The surprising thing is, both conservatives and liberals consider violent intervention "principled", and treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".

Yep.

I think it's time for everyone to read (or reread) Confessions of an Economic Hitman by John Perkins. Shows you exactly what's going on- and who and why.

[angelatc]

That's not the surprising thing. The surprising thing is, both conservatives and liberals consider violent intervention "principled", and treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".

Governments have natural rights? And those rights supersede the rights of the individuals?

[acptulsa]

Governments have natural rights? And those rights supersede the rights of the individuals?

Is this a rhetorical segue into an argument that an official Venezualeans installed is less legitimate than an official picked out for them by Washington, D.C?

[angelatc]

Is this a rhetorical segue into an argument that an official Venezualeans installed is less legitimate than an official picked out for them by Washington, D.C?

Is answering a question with a question a tool to deflect on the earlier statement?
...treating other nations as adult, sovereign and deserving of the natural right to self-determination to be "unprincipled".

It's actually an interesting theory: Do governments have natural rights? Are we indeed born into a social contract, then, where our individual natural rights are contingent on and secondary to the natural rights of the government?

[acptulsa]

Is answering a question with a question a tool to deflect on the earlier statement?



I suppose it could be. But then again...


Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

[AZJoe]

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