SOTU 9PM tonight ; Theme: Bipartisanship-Compromise

[enhanced_deficit]

What happened, couple of hours to go and no SOTU thread here?

Anyways, in SOTU messaging tonight, MAGA "divisive" version is being replaced with "MAGA "unity" version with focus going forward on bipartisanship-compromise based politics.

Nothing new on the Wall, repetition of strongly worded threats to Dems and pleading with them to stop being "radicals".
Only other advertized theme is that MAGA may announce date of sencond meeting with NK's dictator.. although reports say NK has built more missiles since first historic meet.

Pelosi will be the final decider on when Dems clap and when they don't.

Until today it had been a tradition to not subpoena a sitting POTUS's team on historic day of SOTU speech, but that tradition has been broken (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531166-Trump-inaugural-committee-subpoenaed-by-federal-prosecutors&p=6747679&viewfull=1#post6747679). Sad.

[Schifference]

Trump should come out and endorse Healtcare for all and open borders.

[enhanced_deficit]

Trump should come out and endorse Healtcare for all and open borders.

That was old MAGA when he used to be impressed by Canada's healthcare system, current version still support similar plans but does not call it "universal healthcare".


https://www.resourcesforlife.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/20160712tu0459-donald-trump-universal-healthcare-1300x478.jpg




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JUqXkbozl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JUqXkbozl0

[Schifference]

That was old MAGA when he used to be impressed by Canada's healthcare system, current version still support similar plans but does not call it "universal healthcare".


https://www.resourcesforlife.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/20160712tu0459-donald-trump-universal-healthcare-1300x478.jpg




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JUqXkbozl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JUqXkbozl0

He should come out in favor of whatever the democrats want because then they will want the opposite and say what a terrible idea it is.

[Swordsmyth]

And if his list of invited guests are any indication, it’s going to a show you aren’t going to want to miss.


Alice Johnson: a non-violent Great Grandmother pardoned after an outpouring of support from figures on the right, and from Kim Kardashian West.
Joshua Trump: A 6th grader who got the president’s attention in response to news about him being bullied for sharing his last name.
Matthew Charles: The White House says that his “life is a story of redemption.” He was incarcerated for non-violent drug charges in 1996, only to be freed by mistake in 2016, and re-incarcerated after being fully rehabilitated. Charles was then finally released (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/trumps-first-step-act-to-free-matthew-charles-man-who-went-back-to-prison-after-rebuilding-life-due-to-release-error/) at the start of this year, due to President Trump’s First Step Act.
Debra Bissell, Heather Armstrong, and Madison Armstrong: Family members of Gerald and Shannon David, of Reno, NV who were murdered by an illegal immigrant at the start of this year.
Grace Eline: A 9-year old cancer survivor who is known for supporting charity causes, and supporting other children through their fight with cancer.
Ashley Evans: A former opioid addict who has succeeded in her path through the road to recovery, being completely sober for over a year.
Elvin Hernandez: A Special Agent with the Trafficking in Persons Unit of the Department of Homeland Security’s Homeland Security Investigations division.
Roy James: The Plant Manager of the Vicksburg Forest Products lumber facility, whose job was saved due to America First policies implemented by President Trump.
Timothy Matson: A Pittsburgh Police officer who was shot multiple times by the evil madman who murdered innocent worshipers at the Tree of Life Synagogue last year. He was given the dangerous task of breaching the front door of the facility.
Judah Samet: A member of the Tree of Life Synagogue, and Holocaust survivor, who was in attendance during the horrific shooting.
Tom Wibberley: The father of Navy Seaman Craig Wibberley, who was killed during a terrorist attack in 2000 while aboard the U.S.S. Cole. A scholarship fund was created in his honor to award $1,000 each year to students studying computer science, which is something Craig was passionate about.

From his list of invites guests, some indications of what he will talk about can be made.
With Alice Johnson and Matthew Charles in attendance, it can be assumed that criminal justice reform will be a major topic of discussion. In the past year, largely due to a growing friendship with rap icon Kanye West and lobbying by Kim Kardashian, Trump has been making criminal justice reform a priority with the First Step Act.


The family members of Gerald and Shannon David, along with Elvin Hernandez make it clear that border security will be a big issue, which isn’t a surprise to anybody. In the past year, the fight over border security has reached a fever pitch, coming to a head with the historic government shutdown encompassing most of this year.

Ashley Evans is indication that at least a portion of his talk on the border will be on the effect it has on everyday Americans through drug smuggling. Americans are becoming more and more hooked on opioids, and they are largely coming in due to weak border enforcement.
Roy James, the tree plant manager, will be a perfect example of how Trump’s America First policies are helping everyday Americans. His job was nearly destroyed, only for Trump’s policies to save him.
With Judah Samet and Timothy Mason, talks of the evils of antisemitism can be expected. Despite Trump being the best friend Israel can have, moving their Embassy to Jerusalem, anti-Trump voices still try to claim he is antisemitic.
Finally with Joshua Trump, President Trump will likely point out the political hatred toward everything Trump (even if it’s children) that pulsates through the mainstream media and fuels the leftist “resistance.”

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/trump-sends-democrats-a-message-with-his-state-of-the-union-guest-list-hints-at-list-of-priorities/

[enhanced_deficit]

He should come out in favor of whatever the democrats want because then they will want the opposite and say what a terrible idea it is.

He's also coming out with pledge to "End HIV by 2030".

Dems probably won't oppose that, this issue is also championed by many LGBT rights bodies and usually are Dems leaning.

[enhanced_deficit]

And if his list of invited guests are any indication, it’s going to a show you aren’t going to want to miss.


Getting a very different recommendation from respected Democratic leader Waters:


Rep. Maxine Waters: "Turn The Television Off" During State Of The Union
February 5, 2019
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/05/rep_maxine_waters_turn_the_television_off_during_s tate_of_the_union.html



Will you be watching?

[Swordsmyth]

Getting a very different recommendation from respected Democratic leader Waters:


Rep. Maxine Waters: "Turn The Television Off" During State Of The Union
February 5, 2019
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/02/05/rep_maxine_waters_turn_the_television_off_during_s tate_of_the_union.html



Will you be watching?
No, I don't watch TV usually and I can find out what he said in a shorter amount of time by reading about it at my convenience.

[enhanced_deficit]

No, I don't watch TV usually and I can find out what he said in a shorter amount of time by reading about it at my convenience.

Good idea.
Dems are probably going to muck it up anyway and deny MAGA the opportunity to shine that he deserves.

[pcosmar]

No, I don't watch TV usually and I can find out what he said in a shorter amount of time by reading about it at my convenience.

I'll wait for the State of the Onion version.

though fact checkers have been shown to have problems with that,,,,

[RonZeplin]

I'm waiting for the Sean Hannity translation.

[RJB]

I think they should do away with the two minute ovations after every other sentence. To keep with the times, everytime Trump says something that will arouse political passions, they should pause everything and play gangsta rap, while someone runs out and places a cap on his head, sunglasses on his face and a spliff in his mouth. Make it a thuglife moment instead.

[Anti Globalist]

He better say something about getting rid of incentives and ending the welfare state.

[Stratovarious]

Trump should come out and endorse Healtcare for all and open borders.

'at this point what does it really matter' Hillary Clinging

I'm just about in the same boat, Hillary is not in prison, the IRS is bigger than ever,
Obamacare is still alive an thriving, our troops are all over the globe playing
world police, and now we're talking about Venezuela, and Israel is still 'first' .
I supported Trump , still acknowledge some fantastic achievements , but I'm losing
faith rapidly.

[Stratovarious]

I'm waiting for the Sean Hannity translation.
No matter what is said, Hannity will come back with ; Remember the holocaust , save Israel......

[Stratovarious]

I'll wait for the State of the Onion version.

though fact checkers have been shown to have problems with that,,,,

You just reminded me, I have one to throw out.......thanks......

[pcosmar]

Then again,,

I haven't watched a circus for a while...

it might be entertaining.. it might be infuriating... a comic tragedy.

[PAF]

Trump should come out and endorse Healtcare for all and open borders.

Why not endorse no wall and end the incentives? Why do folks no longer endorse liberty? Why regurgitate msm, time after time?

[euphemia]

The president is wearing his hair shorter and neater.

[oyarde]

About time he got a haircut .

[Aratus]

Is this as close as it gets to an official thread for the SOTU? As close to one that we can hope for....? :)

[euphemia]

About time he got a haircut .

Indeed. Age appropriateness is a good thing.

[Brian4Liberty]

So it appears the the “white clothes” leftist women of Congress hate jobs and a strong economy.

[phill4paul]

So it appears the the “white clothes” leftist women of Congress hate jobs and a strong economy.

And the release of a non-violent drug offender that is a woman and is black.

[euphemia]

So it appears the the “white clothes” leftist women of Congress hate jobs and a strong economy.

The brooms are double-parked outside.

[fedupinmo]

So it appears the the “white clothes” leftist women of Congress hate jobs and a strong economy.


And the release of a non-violent drug offender that is a woman and is black.

https://i.imgur.com/SmncuZU.jpg

[Valli6]

For a second there, I thought Trump was gonna cry.

[Brian4Liberty]

And the release of a non-violent drug offender that is a woman and is black.

In their eyes, better that a female POC rot for life in jail rather than give a single inch on their leftist totalitarian agenda. It is personal, and they are vindictive, cruel and ruthless.

[euphemia]

Rand Paul is sitting next to Ted Cruz.

[phill4paul]

My goodness, they will applaud and stand if he makes it all about them.

[Valli6]

Trump is charming the women in white!

[euphemia]

Genius.

[Brian4Liberty]

LOL. Rand is stuck sitting next to Mitt Romney.

[Anti Globalist]

Trump is charming the women in white!
Hes playing them like a fiddle.

[PAF]

SOTU: support more government, support more spending.

[TheCount]

He better say something about getting rid of incentives and ending the welfare state.

I wouldn't hold your breath.

[phill4paul]

Dayum! Hammer down on late term abortion.

[TheCount]

I'll just leave this here:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/conroy-SOTU-DOG-1-0205.png

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/conroy-SOTU-GOD-2-0205.png

[PAF]

...and more MIC.

[phill4paul]

I'll just leave this here:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/conroy-SOTU-DOG-1-0205.png

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/conroy-SOTU-GOD-2-0205.png

I'm glad you got that out of your system. Nobody else cares.

[PAF]

...and continued intervention.

[TheCount]

I'm glad you got that out of your system. Nobody else cares.

I know of at least Two Corinthians that care.

[phill4paul]

...and continued intervention.

Premature. He's addressing reducing troops in Afghanistan now.

[euphemia]

Yes. 700 or so are home at Ft. Campbell.

[euphemia]

Nancy Pelosi is an odious, obnoxious, horrible woman. I can’t figure out if it’s the fresh injection of Botox or the stick up her behind that makes her look so sour.

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump is digging deep into the WWII and Holocaust vault. The Dems can’t sit down for this.

[PAF]

Decades later the people still continue to be trump’d.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I'll just leave this here:



Is this even serious? I looked up that research. The list of "God terms" and "faith words" includes the following:



backslid
believer
devotion
fruits
genesis (not the capitalized bible book)
hallow
Jew
lamp
mission
pope
redeem
solemn
sow
sows
sown
sowed
spirit

Etc, etc.








I'll just leave this here:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/conroy-SOTU-DOG-1-0205.png

https://fivethirtyeight.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/conroy-SOTU-GOD-2-0205.png

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I wouldn't hold your breath.


But you applauded when your 2x voting choice of Obama pushed for more welfare, right?

[RonZeplin]

The designated survivor Rick Perry is not president yet.:up:

I guess that's a good thing.

[Anti Globalist]

The designated survivor Rick Perry is not president yet.:up:

I guess that's a good thing.
I'm wondering where he is. He hasn't been seen at all for a while now.

[euphemia]

My parents were part of the WWII generation. I really those moments in the speech.

And it wasn’t Clinton in 1995 holding up that national ID card threatening everyone with HillaryCare.

[Brian4Liberty]

Thomas Massie getting all of the post SOTU conversation on OANN.

[Anti Federalist]

Here, in the United States, we are alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country. America was founded on liberty and independence –- not government coercion, domination, and control. We are born free, and we will stay free. Tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country.

What the fuck?

We already are a socialist country, by any objective measure and subject to brutal police state coercion, controlled government media and government domination.

The only question at this point is: will the central government collapse of its own weight before or after the Modern Marxists, Latter Day Bolsheviks and New Jacobins get spooled up into enough of a killing frenzy to carry out the genocide against the European whites they are dreaming about and working toward.

[dannno]

...and continued intervention.

Are you in a different dimension?

[Occam's Banana]

Here, in the United States, we are alarmed by new calls to adopt socialism in our country. America was founded on liberty and independence –- not government coercion, domination, and control. We are born free, and we will stay free. Tonight, we renew our resolve that America will never be a socialist country.

What the fuck?

We already are a socialist country [...]

(Ssshhhh! You're gonna disturb the frogs ... *ahem* ...)

You are so wrong! America will never be a socialist country! Never!!!

[TheCount]

(Ssshhhh! You're gonna disturb the frogs ... *ahem* ...)

You are so wrong! America will never be a socialist country! Never!!!

It's not socialism if it's socialism for us. We'll call that nationalism! Genius!

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

It's not socialism if it's socialism for us. We'll call that nationalism! Genius!


But your 2x voting choice of Obama also had socialism for progressives like you, right? So what's the difference?

[dannno]

What the fuck?

We already are a socialist country, by any objective measure and subject to brutal police state coercion, controlled government media and government domination.

The only question at this point is: will the central government collapse of its own weight before or after the Modern Marxists, Latter Day Bolsheviks and New Jacobins get spooled up into enough of a killing frenzy to carry out the genocide against the European whites they are dreaming about and working toward.

The look on Bernie's face tho!!

https://i.imgur.com/YccPRQB.png

[devil21]

What the fuck?

We already are a socialist country, by any objective measure and subject to brutal police state coercion, controlled government media and government domination.

The only question at this point is: will the central government collapse of its own weight before or after the Modern Marxists, Latter Day Bolsheviks and New Jacobins get spooled up into enough of a killing frenzy to carry out the genocide against the European whites they are dreaming about and working toward.

Wave a flag, play a Super Bowl, hand em a beer and tell them how free they are and most Americans will happily continue to live in ignorance of their servitude.

[timosman]

https://twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1092979552362450945

1092979552362450945

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJiL6NRaN9g

[enhanced_deficit]

Didn't catch the speech, if any anti-interventionist, cut-spending libertarian here watched it, care to grade the speech?


On a partisan note, Ultra Right activist Coulter is not approve of speech:

By Avery Anapol - 02/06/19 12:06 AM EST 75
(https://thehill.com/homenews/media/428660-ann-coulter-blasts-trump-speech-lamest-sappiest-state-of-the-union-ever#bottom-story-socials)

"Golden beaches of California"? This was the lamest, sappiest, most intentionally tear-jerking SOTU ever. Please fire your speechwriter, @realDonaldTrump.
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) February 6, 2019 (https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1092989013642887168?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


She took a jab (https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1092983915650994176) at the president’s comments saying that the U.S. will never be a “socialist country,” tweeting that such a fate is inevitable if Trump doesn’t “build a wall & deport illegals."

“Nice words though,” she added.

Coulter also noted that she was “too tired to watch his whole speech,” (https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1092990993958342657) and referred to the remarks as “surprisingly Oprah-like.”

(https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1092991174678380548)
So Trump is AGAINST childhood cancer, AIDS and the Holocaust. Glad I tuned in to hear that.
— Ann Coulter (@AnnCoulter) February 6, 2019 (https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1092987505253777408?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)


https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4...the-union-ever (https://thehill.com/homenews/media/428660-ann-coulter-blasts-trump-speech-lamest-sappiest-state-of-the-union-ever)

[enhanced_deficit]

Anythig on second amendment, debt, spending , swamp etc in speech?




He better say something about getting rid of incentives and ending the welfare state.

Did he?

[devil21]

Anythig on second amendment, debt, spending , swamp etc in speech?

Did he?

You're kidding right?

Russia, abortion (Rowe v Wade has already been nullified btw), military, immigration, Maduro bad, Jews.

[dannno]

Did he?

You should watch it, he whipped the left up and brought the house down..

Then told everybody that great nations don't fight endless wars, and our troops will be coming home..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IyW-yxavHg


OH ya.... and since President, there are 5 MILLION LESS PEOPLE ON FOOD STAMPS..

[JohnCifelli1]

A room full of statesmen and atateswomen doing the USA chant like they just witnessed a fighter jets flyover at a football game...definition of cringy