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Anti Federalist
02-05-2019, 06:59 AM
Not sure how this is supposed to be applied.

More than likely just heaped on your property tax bill based on how many square feet of paved driveway or parking lot you have.

It would be hilarious if it actually based on rainfall, and after every heavy rain you got a walloping tax bill.

Enjoy it NJ, you wanted it, you voted for it, now you got it.



‘Rain Tax’ Likely To Become Reality In New Jersey

https://newyork.cbslocal.com/2019/02/04/rain-tax-likely-to-become-reality-in-new-jersey/

February 4, 2019 at 10:01 pm

ELIZABETH, N.J. (CBSNewYork) — New Jersey is one of the highest taxed states in the country.

Now, residents and businesses could be taxed extra … when it rains.

Save it for a rainy day. Some of your hard-earned dollars may be taken away as the weather turns ugly and rain drops fall on the Garden State. A new bill calls for the creation of local or regional storm water utilities, giving local counties and municipalities the power to collect a tax from properties with large paved surfaces such as parking lots, CBS2’s Meg Baker reported.

That’s businesses and homeowners.

The bill passed in the Senate and the Assembly and is now headed to Gov. Phil Murphy’s desk.

Is It A Good Idea To Tax People When It Rains?

“With all the salt that we’ve had on roads recently, that’s all running into the sewer systems. So you can’t ignore problems because they don’t go away,” Senate President Steve Sweeney said.

Sweeney said most states already have storm water utilities that collect and filter runoff from storms. In New Jersey, the runoff goes directly into streams, rivers and bays, carrying with it pollution like lawn fertilizers that contaminate the waterways.

Former governor and current state Sen. Richard Codey said it’s necessary.

“A lot of our economy is based on, obviously, the shore. We gotta make sure we keep it that way,” Codey said.

Some homeowners aren’t a fan of the plan, either.

“They are crazy. As it is, there are too much taxes in New Jersey,” Elizabeth resident Ramon Columna said. “Why would we want more taxes especially on cement, ya know?”

“Our homeowner’s taxes are as high as they can possibly be. They shouldn’t go any higher. It’s not fair,” resident Leslie Cedillo added.

Some Republicans have dubbed the bill the “Rain Tax,” saying another tax makes New Jersey even more unaffordable, and state Sen. Tom Kean Jr. agrees.

“We all want to protect our environment. We all want to preserve it for future generations. But this is a weighted tax. The citizens of New Jersey … really with no oversight and no way to defend themselves against tax increases at local levels,” Kean said.

When asked what he would say to taxpayers who say they cannot afford another tax, Codey said, “It’s a small cost to live safely.”

Other supporters say creating these utilities would help reduce flooding caused by storms.

Stratovarious
02-05-2019, 07:36 AM
These Senators have absolutely no business passing any legislation, NJ,
should demand the gov step down should he sign this bill.

Danke
02-05-2019, 08:01 AM
How about the government stops putting salt on the roads?

specsaregood
02-05-2019, 08:27 AM
So do I get a tax credit then if I get rain barrels to collect rain to use on my garden?

Chester Copperpot
02-05-2019, 08:40 AM
So do I get a tax credit then if I get rain barrels to collect rain to use on my garden?

no im sure theres a penalty for that... youd be interfering with the local water agency from getting their fair share

oyarde
02-05-2019, 08:45 AM
Has NJ been getting an unfair amount of rain ? How can the rain taxes be redistributed in a way for Dem voters to benefit ?

Stratovarious
02-05-2019, 08:46 AM
So do I get a tax credit then if I get rain barrels to collect rain to use on my garden?
Colorado prohibits this practice, another failed state.

shakey1
02-05-2019, 09:01 AM
“With all the salt that we’ve had on roads recently, that’s all running into the sewer systems. So you can’t ignore problems because they don’t go away,” Senate President Steve Sweeney said.

... and once the rain is taxed, the problems still won't go away... but your money will.

oyarde
02-05-2019, 09:07 AM
... and once the rain is taxed, the problems still won't go away... but your money will.

That is the root cause of the problem . Politicians are certain Specs has too much money and they have all day to dream up how to get some while he is busy earning it .

acptulsa
02-05-2019, 09:18 AM
A new bill calls for the creation of local or regional storm water utilities, giving local counties and municipalities the power to collect a tax from properties with large paved surfaces such as parking lots, CBS2’s Meg Baker reported.

“With all the salt that we’ve had on roads recently, that’s all running into the sewer systems. So you can’t ignore problems because they don’t go away,” Senate President Steve Sweeney said.

Wait, this is a salt tax? Does Elizabeth really salt parking lots and private driveways? No? Then how does this extra pavement lead to more salt, again?


“A lot of our economy is based on, obviously, the shore. We gotta make sure we keep it that way,” Codey said.

Wait, we're worried about salty water at the sea shore? And what sort of water do they expect to find at the sea shore?

PAF
02-05-2019, 09:18 AM
The same state that won’t comply with gun regs. Interesting.

Anti Globalist
02-05-2019, 10:06 AM
Can't wait for the breathe tax and the standing tax.

AZJoe
03-22-2019, 09:11 PM
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DamianTV
03-23-2019, 02:29 AM
So do I get a tax credit then if I get rain barrels to collect rain to use on my garden?

Silly mundane, only the Rich and Elite get tax breaks.

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This entire country is turning into Communism by Taxation. Tax everything the lower class earns. Lets be realistic and face it, there is NO Middle Class, only the Upper and Lower classes now. And those at the bottom do NOT get the tax breaks the rich and powerful get. Youre even worse off if you get paid so little that your precious Communist govt gives you welfare and food stamps because your employer wont pay you a livable wage while raking in record profits year after year *cough* Walmart / Amazon.

The government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take it all away too.

Schifference
03-23-2019, 03:21 AM
There will need to be low humidity taxes enacted in places with little rainfall.

Warrior_of_Freedom
03-23-2019, 12:31 PM
The solution is to enclose your place of business in a bubble