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enhanced_deficit
02-03-2019, 03:00 PM
While this may not please some of America-First hard right conservatives, MAGA is taking a bold step and could be moving one step ahead in 3D chess games with neocons political slave masters/money baggers/foreign firster lobbies etc:


Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal

Trump claimed in an interview that “99 percent” of ISIS’ territory had been reclaimed.

By Michael Wilner
February 3, 2019 16:08

https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_ControlFaceDetect/430232

U.S. President Donald Trump (R) embraces Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu after his remarks at the Israel Museum in Jerusalem May 23, 2017. (photo credit: JONATHAN ERNST / REUTERS)


WASHINGTON – US President Donald Trump indicated this weekend that some US troops in Syria would remain there “to protect Israel,” in an apparent shift from his earlier insistence on an absolute withdrawal.

In an interview with Margaret Brennan of CBS News, Trump was pressed to identify precisely how much of America’s force presence there would be coming home – and how quickly.

“We’re going to be there and we’re going to be staying. We have to protect Israel,” he replied. “We have to protect other things that we have. But we’re – yeah, they’ll be coming back in a matter of time.”

https://www. jpost .com/Middle-East/Trump-We-have-to-protect-Israel-shifting-again-on-Syria-withdrawal-579546



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Stratovarious
02-03-2019, 03:11 PM
Trump really loses me with all the hugging and boot licking of and administration riff with war crimes.
(UN Peace Keeping Groups)
I had no idea Trump would become an 'Israel Firster'
Israel gets along with no one, so do we need to keep on
killing around the globe until no one is left for them to hate.....(rhetorical)
:facepalm:

Swordsmyth
02-03-2019, 03:31 PM
He said they would all be coming back:


yeah, they’ll be coming back in a matter of time.”

The only question is whether the time involved is too long.

spudea
02-03-2019, 03:56 PM
In the interview he said they would all be withdrawn to the US base in Iraq, most would come home, a smaller number kept at the base for intelligence purposes to keep an eye on Iran and the ISIS remnants.

Swordsmyth
02-03-2019, 04:00 PM
In the interview he said they would all be withdrawn to the US base in Iraq, most would come home, a smaller number kept at the base for intelligence purposes to keep an eye on Iran and the ISIS remnants.
Don't disrupt the narrative with actual facts.:sarcasm:

enhanced_deficit
02-03-2019, 10:00 PM
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In the interview he said they would all be withdrawn to the US base in Iraq, most would come home, a smaller number kept at the base for intelligence purposes to keep an eye on Iran and the ISIS remnants.

Which country's interests would such an Iraq/Syria interventionist policy serve primarily?
Do you see it as America-First policy?

AngryCanadian
02-03-2019, 11:12 PM
In the interview he said they would all be withdrawn to the US base in Iraq, most would come home, a smaller number kept at the base for intelligence purposes to keep an eye on Iran and the ISIS remnants.

Those forces in Iraq will never leave Iraq unless the Iraqis again start revolting agaisnt America's presences. ISIS and Iran once again are being used as an excuse to further occupy the middle east as a pretext.

Swordsmyth
02-03-2019, 11:17 PM
Those forces in Iraq will never leave Iraq unless the Iraqis again start revolting agaisnt America's presences. ISIS and Iran once again are being used as an excuse to further occupy the middle east as a pretext.
Iraqi lawmakers demand U.S. troops withdraw after Trump's surprise visit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529658-Iraqi-lawmakers-demand-U-S-troops-withdraw-after-Trump-s-surprise-visit)

juleswin
02-03-2019, 11:17 PM
The truth about the Iraqi war (partially told by the soldiers who fought in it)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nej8CSWJuCg&index=1&list=PL8CFB0BE99C459980

juleswin
02-03-2019, 11:21 PM
Iraqi lawmakers demand U.S. troops withdraw after Trump's surprise visit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529658-Iraqi-lawmakers-demand-U-S-troops-withdraw-after-Trump-s-surprise-visit)

They have been asking the US to leave for years now and they won't listen. Japan, South Korea wants the US to leave also. Heck, Venezuela just asked them to leave and just like the occupying and imperialist nation that she is, the US did not leave.

Any luck coming up with that mystical nation without any price control laws on its book? Need more time to name them. I can wait to see your list, I would be shocked if the number is greater than one :)

Stratovarious
02-04-2019, 11:52 AM
Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’
Me: ''We have to stop financing Israel's den of thieves and war crimes*.''

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* Un Humanitarian Coalitions

Stratovarious
02-04-2019, 11:54 AM
duplicate delete

Superfluous Man
02-04-2019, 12:06 PM
He said they would all be coming back:



The only question is whether the time involved is too long.

So the troops won't be there literally forever.

That would still be true even if Lindsey Graham were president.

Anti Globalist
02-04-2019, 12:10 PM
Let me get this straight. A country that has 300+ nukes, a wall, and the best military of all middle eastern countries needs our protection?

Cleaner44
02-04-2019, 12:34 PM
Israel is perfectly capable of protecting themselves. They are neither a poor people nor a defenseless people. There is no legitimate reason that U.S. taxpayers need to fund the defense of Israel or U.S. soldiers need to die for Israel.

Origanalist
02-04-2019, 04:44 PM
“Look, we’re protecting the world,” he added. “We’re spending more money than anybody’s ever spent in history, by a lot.” Trump's slow drift and change in tune on the subject of a promised "rapid" exit comes after Israeli officials led by Prime Minister Netanyahu alongside neocon allies in Washington argued that some 200 US troops in Syria's southeast desert along the Iraqi border and its 55-kilometer “deconfliction zone” at al-Tanf are the last line of defense against Iranian expansion in Syria, and therefore must stay indefinitely.

So which is it? Were we there to defeat ISIS or watch Iran?

"“I want to be able to watch Iran,” Trump said further during the CBS interview. “Iran is a real problem.” He explained that “99%” of ISIS’s territory had been liberated but that a contingency of US troops must remain to prevent a resurgent Islamic State as well as to counter Iranian influence, for which American forces must remain in Iraq as well.

Mach
02-04-2019, 05:23 PM
I know, it's just text, but......





https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1091329137699184640




Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account realDonaldTrump
Feb 1

....after 18 long years. Syria was loaded with ISIS until I came along. We will soon have destroyed 100% of the Caliphate, but will be watching them closely. It is now time to start coming home and, after many years, spending our money wisely. Certain people must get smart!

enhanced_deficit
09-13-2020, 12:07 PM
Is it really true that GOPA wing funded party has incresed global interventions to mideast by 14000 + 2200 = 16,200 to already present 65,000 troops in mideast or these 2200 were part of Trump's 14,000 troops surge in 2019?

It appears there will still be 8000-10,000 troops in Iraq & Afghanistan even after planned withdrawls that are supposed to happen by election date.


Sept. 9, 2020
Eric Schmitt, nyt
Analysts of military policy also note that even as Mr. Trump has withdrawn several thousand troops from Iraq and Afghanistan, he has ordered nearly twice that many, about 14,000 forces, to the Persian Gulf region in the past year or so in response to Iranian attacks and provocations.
At any given time, 45,000 to 65,000 American troops are in the region, spread out between Jordan and Oman, assigned to operate airfields, run key headquarters, sail warships and fly warplanes, and stage for deployments to places such as Iraq and Afghanistan.


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By SARAH BLAKE MORGAN / AP
June 17, 2020
FORT BRAGG, N.C. (AP) —
When his mandatory two-week quarantine ended last Friday, Clyde made the short drive to Fort Bragg and boarded a plane for a nine-month deployment in the Middle East.
The 34-year-old is among 2,200 paratroopers assigned to the 82nd Airborne Division’s 2nd Brigade Combat Team deploying to Iraq and Syria amid the coronavirus pandemic. They’ll be supporting Operation Inherent Resolve, the U.S military battle to defeat the Islamic State.
https://time.com/5854760/us-military...irus-pandemic/ (https://time.com/5854760/us-military-deployment-coronavirus-pandemic/)



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enhanced_deficit
01-30-2021, 11:40 PM
Source is NW, pending confirmation from other sources:

Syria Sends First Message to President Biden: Withdraw Troops, Stop Stealing Oil

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Syria has issued its first message to President Joe Biden, urging the incoming U.S. leader to withdraw troops from the war-torn nation and to abandon efforts to tap into the country's oil reserves.
Syrian permanent representative to the United Nations Bashar al-Jaafari derided U.S. actions in his country during a Wednesday virtual session of the U.N. Security Council. As Biden was sworn in in Washington, Jaafari called for an immediate change in Washington's foreign policy in Syria, where a multi-sided civil war with U.S. involvement neared its 10th anniversary.

"The American occupation forces continue to plunder Syria's wealth of oil, gas and agricultural crops, burning and destroying what it cannot steal," Jaafari said, according to the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency.
He called for a complete U.S. disengagement and troop withdrawal.

"The new U.S. administration must stop acts of aggression and occupation, plundering the wealth of my country, withdraw its occupying forces from it, and stop supporting separatist militias, illegal entities, and attempts to threaten Syria's sovereignty, unity and territorial integrity," Jaafari said.

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Thug Life Inspiration
Words uttered:
Trump speech (https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/donald-trump-speech-save-america-rally-transcript-january-6) before the DC riot Jan 6, 2021:
Remember I used to say in the old days, “Don’t go into Iraq. But if you go in, keep the oil.” We didn’t keep the oil. So stupid. So stupid, these people. And Iraq has billions and billions of dollars now in the bank. And what did we do? We get nothing. We never get.

Words not uttered explicitly:
"Don't go into Capitol building but if you go in, take the lectern"
https://thefederal.com/file/2021/01/Untitled-9-696x428.jpg

vita3
01-31-2021, 02:55 AM
Trump not meeting with Assad to try & sort some things out was a big mistake.

Heard recent reports that we have increased little soldiering inside Syria, hope this stops but there is reality of Obama admin past actions (chaos in Syria & EU with (forced Syrian refugees & global jihads)

Kurds & Syrian Gov need to reach formal understandings

enhanced_deficit
01-31-2021, 02:18 PM
Trump not meeting with Assad to try & sort some things out was a big mistake.



Don't mean to rationalize or defend Trump foreign policy decisions but according to pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood, Jeffrey Epstein is still alive.

https://unapologeticrepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/lin-wood-epstein-alive-570x224.jpg


(https://unapologeticrepublican.com/tag/lin-wood/)

vita3
01-31-2021, 02:53 PM
Don't mean to rationalize or defend Trump foreign policy decisions but according to pro-Trump lawyer Lin Wood, Jeffrey Epstein is still alive.

https://unapologeticrepublican.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/lin-wood-epstein-alive-570x224.jpg


(https://unapologeticrepublican.com/tag/lin-wood/)

Thanks for the SPAM.

enhanced_deficit
01-31-2021, 03:57 PM
That was euphemism for "Deep State Neocons, Foreign Firster lobbies still being too strong and having oversized influence on US foreign policy", guess should have not cited LW and stated the point differently.

enhanced_deficit
02-02-2021, 12:38 AM
He said they would all be coming back:

The only question is whether the time involved is too long.

If 4 years was too short to withdraw troops from Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq etc, next best thing was to try surges and leave withdrawal for the future Commander In Chief as he did.



In the interview he said they would all be withdrawn to the US base in Iraq, most would come home, a smaller number kept at the base for intelligence purposes to keep an eye on Iran and the ISIS remnants.

Ti be devil's advocate, without having boots on the ground on Syria, who will keep an eye on ISIS in Syria?
Putting aside reckless oil plunder claims for a moment.