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Warlord
01-31-2019, 01:04 PM
So I caught some of Roger Stone's press conference in Washington D.C today and he was asked about Trump and his policies. Roger said he was more of a libertarian than the president, he believes we should be out of Syria now, out of Afghanistan now and out of Iraq NOW!

He insisted the president ran as a non-interventionist and that he would like to see him stick to those policies.

Roger Stone basically rammed it down the throats of the corporate media. He was amazing!:up:

donnay
01-31-2019, 01:18 PM
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Warlord
01-31-2019, 01:23 PM
I think its finished donnay? I caught the juicy bits right at the beginning. Hopefully they post it.

enhanced_deficit
01-31-2019, 01:24 PM
MAGA and Stone are on same page and put America First.

But problem is that neocons/foreign lobbies firsters/his top funders etc sometimes exploit MAGA's love for feeedom, democracy, racial equality etc and trick him into expanding, instead of ending, wars.

This Photo of Afghan Women in Miniskirts Helped Convince Trump to Send More Troops (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?514306-This-Photo-of-Afghan-Women-in-Miniskirts-Helped-Convince-Trump-to-Send-More-Troops&)

Donald Trump carried out Syria missile strike ‘after being convinced by daughter Ivanka’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?509520-Donald-Trump-carried-out-Syria-missile-strike-‘after-being-convinced-by-daughter-Ivanka’&)



MAGA probably needs to go back to playing 3D chess to beat neacons political slave masters.

donnay
01-31-2019, 01:28 PM
I think its finished donnay? I caught the juicy bits right at the beginning. Hopefully they post it.

You can click on it and you can watch it again.

Warlord
01-31-2019, 01:29 PM
You can click on it and you can watch it again.

Aaaah, brilliant. Thanks donnay!

donnay
01-31-2019, 01:33 PM
Aaaah, brilliant. Thanks donnay!

You're welcome. :up:

Anti Globalist
01-31-2019, 01:40 PM
Lets also leave every other country while we're at it.

oyarde
01-31-2019, 01:57 PM
Lets also leave every other country while we're at it.

I would be happy to start with those three .

Superfluous Man
01-31-2019, 02:10 PM
Where was this guy in the 2008 and 2012 Republican primaries?

Zippyjuan
01-31-2019, 02:27 PM
So I caught some of Roger Stone's press conference in Washington D.C today and he was asked about Trump and his policies. Roger said he was more of a libertarian than the president, he believes we should be out of Syria now, out of Afghanistan now and out of Iraq NOW!

He insisted the president ran as a non-interventionist and that he would like to see him stick to those policies.

Roger Stone basically rammed it down the throats of the corporate media. He was amazing!:up:

I guess he has changed since he worked for Nixon?

https://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/feature/public/2018/06/08/perstone01.jpg

https://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Roger-Stone-Nixon-Victory-Sign.jpg

https://trackingmeroz.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/roger-stone-and-alex-jones.jpg

Stratovarious
01-31-2019, 02:49 PM
I guess he has changed since he worked for Nixon?
We've all seen these pictures zippy, what are you trying to say?

shakey1
01-31-2019, 02:49 PM
I'd like to see a swat team descend on Clinton's lying a$$ on live tv.

Stratovarious
01-31-2019, 02:52 PM
I'd like to see a swat team descend on Clinton's lying a$$ on live tv.
No kidding, guilty of multiple counts of espionage under title 18, she is untouchable, and
Trump has really let us all down on that one.
This is one of the key reasons I've lost so much respect for my hero (Trump) .

juleswin
01-31-2019, 03:01 PM
Where was this guy in the 2008 and 2012 Republican primaries?

Well in 2004, his Reagan republican, Bush supporting, republican libertarian self was busy being a consultant for the race hustler Al Sharpton.


THE 2004 CAMPAIGN: THE CONSULTANT; Sharpton's Bid Aided by an Unlikely Source

The Rev. Al Sharpton has demonstrated his quick wit and deft use of one-liners in his campaign for president. But while the delivery has been all his own, he had help shaping his message from an unlikely source: Roger Stone, a political consultant who worked for Richard M. Nixon, Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush.

Mr. Stone, who describes himself as a Republican-libertarian, has had a hand in some of Mr. Sharpton's most effective attacks on Howard Dean, aides to Mr. Sharpton said. By extension, he has played a role in shaping the dynamic of the Democratic primary, political strategists and observers said.

Mr. Stone, like Mr. Sharpton, is a larger-than-life character with a flamboyant personal style who is both revered and reviled for his work. A 1985 cover story in The New Republic magazine described Mr. Stone as ''the State-of-the-Art Washington Sleazeball.'' Mr. Stone called the article a ''political hit job.''

Today Mr. Stone says he loves helping Mr. Sharpton.

''Frankly,'' Mr. Stone said in a recent telephone interview, ''there has not been a candidate with this much charisma since Ronald Reagan. He is a natural talent. Who else could do the funky chicken on television and get away with it? I don't share his politics. Let's be very clear, if you check the F.E.C. records you will see I am supporting George W. Bush. I am a Reagan Republican.''

But the men have found a common agenda in the Democratic primary. They have delighted in skewering Dr. Dean, with Mr. Sharpton generating one of Dr. Dean's lowest moments in a debate when he forced him to admit he had no blacks or Hispanics in his cabinet when he was governor of Vermont.


https://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/25/us/the-2004-campaign-the-consultant-sharpton-s-bid-aided-by-an-unlikely-source.html

juleswin
01-31-2019, 03:06 PM
More roadside theatre from Roger Stone feat Ben Swann


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvn7T1B094

Warlord
01-31-2019, 03:06 PM
Like all of us Roger Stone has had his own personal journey, the main thing now is that he opposes the Bush wars.

kona
01-31-2019, 03:16 PM
I never understood the hate Roger still gets from some people here. Roger is a lot of things, but anti-libertarian is not one of them. Go check out Lew Rockwell's podcast to see what he thinks of Stone. He has the utmost respect for Roger (they are also great friends).

Roger has also worked behind the scenes to pardon Assange, and authored numerous op-eds asking the President to do it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJnUqThBHU

dannno
01-31-2019, 03:29 PM
Where was this guy in the 2008 and 2012 Republican primaries?


What Will Ron Paul Do?
By Roger Stone
April 4, 2012


In 1977 as Treasurer of the National Conservative Political Action Committee, I went to Houston Texas to work in the Special Election campaign of Ron Paul, the first time he was elected to Congress. I have long admired his faith in and consistent support of the US Constitution and the proper limits of government. I have also always admired his willingness to go against the grain and sometimes tell the unpopular truth.

More..

http://stonezone.com/article.php?id=492..

dannno
01-31-2019, 03:30 PM
I never understood the hate Roger still gets from some people here. Roger is a lot of things, but anti-libertarian is not one of them. Go check out Lew Rockwell's podcast to see what he thinks of Stone. He has the utmost respect for Roger (they are also great friends).

Roger has also worked behind the scenes to pardon Assange, and authored numerous op-eds asking the President to do it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJnUqThBHU

LOL don't mind the trolls...

Todd
01-31-2019, 03:34 PM
More roadside theatre from Roger Stone feat Ben Swann


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvn7T1B094

What about what Ben says is incorrect, wrong? Try to stay focused and objective as hard as that may be.


by the way having alot of experience in criminal matters, let me tell with the utmost degree of certainty that if you are serious threat to the community and have done something extremely heinous, you are given NO BOND to get out of jail after they have sent that much firepower to take you into custody.

Laughable.

Superfluous Man
01-31-2019, 03:39 PM
..

Thanks for finding that.

But notice that it was written after RP's failure to win the Republican nomination, and seems to be arguing more for him to endorse GJ than anything else. Did Stone have anything to say about Ron's run earlier than that (either that time or 4 years prior to that), when he was still trying to get the nomination? Or did he only care about him once that was over and he wanted him to endorse GJ?

For that matter, did Stone endorse Rand in 2016? Or Trump? Or neither?

juleswin
01-31-2019, 03:45 PM
What about what Ben says is incorrect, wrong? Try to stay focused and objective as hard as that may be.


by the way having alot of experience in criminal matters, let me tell with the utmost degree of certainty that if you are serious threat to the community and have done something extremely heinous, you are given NO BOND to get out of jail after they have sent that much firepower to take you into custody.

Laughable.

Ben Swann is completely correct, he thinks its all theatre from the FBI side and Roger Stone. Another clip of him pointing the craziness out.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eP11E0ZKYcw

My point is this, its all a put on, threatre, drama to make it seem like they are coming after Trump.

Superfluous Man
01-31-2019, 03:49 PM
Here's another one of the mentions of "Ron Paul" that came up in a search of the Stone Zone. He says some good things. But it's mixed over all. He certainly didn't consider himself one of us.


Paultards Party Down
Always interested in the rhythms of American politics I attended the Ron Paul alternative convention in Minneapolis where Paul's supporters don't seem to know that the nomination is over and Paul was defeated. "Rally for the Republic 2008" was a collection of Paulites, 9/11 Truthers. Right-to-Lifers, wing-nuts, gun-nuts, anti-income tax activists and Revolutionary War re-enactors most of whom carry a bound edition of the U.S. Constitution. It gathered 10,000 people to the Target Arena. Even the John Birch Society had a booth with giant smiling portraits of Robert Welch and Ron Paul. Never have I learned so much about the heat resistance of steel girders or seen a greater variety of Ron Paul t-shirts celebrating the bicycle riding, tomato growing Chauncey Gardener of their movement. Tucker Carlson moderated and actually introduced one of the kookier speakers by saying "If you want to stretch your legs or use the bathroom or get something to eat, now is probably a good time". Carlson appeared to serve as a bemused MC without endorsing some of the more outrageous things said from the podium by political leaders you have mostly never heard of with the exception of Grover Norquist of American's for Tax Reform who is supporting McCain and former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura whose newest hair- do looks like Larry Fine of the Three Stooges used an entire can of pomade in his hair. Since this was all prior to Palin's speech it would be fair to say that the crowd had more life than the Tuesday gathering of Republican Delegates in St. Paul. The Illuminati, CFR, Trilateral Commission and Federal Reserve all took a beating from speaker after speaker none of whom rose above the level of a regional right-wing radio talk show host with the exception of former Congressman Barry Goldwater Jr., who although quite handsome in his younger days, looks more like a craggy caricature of his famous father today and who eschewed a suit for a Western shirt, jeans and cowboy boots. Encouraging is that more than half the crowd were young people under 25 and the fact that they are anti-tax, pro-gun, pro-freedom, and pro-constitution even though I don't share some of their zanier political ideas, is a great thing for the future of the Republican Party. When I was 18 I thought Barry Goldwater was God, Dwight Eisenhower was a communist, the Council of Foreign Relations was secretly running the country and that the Liberty Amendment to repeal the Federal income tax should be passed. Over time I learned that nothing was that simple. Reagan's brand of Conservatism was so much more appealing and reasonable that I left my most extreme right-wing views behind while embracing the more optimistic conservatism of our 40th President. In ten years these younger Paul activists will be the backbone of the Conservative wing of the Republican Party. Still there are elements present at the Paul confab that we don't want in the Republican Party; Libertarian Party Candidate for President Bob Barr's reception was muted by a rumor (probably true) that the former Republican Congressman from Georgia is of mixed race and as one Paulite told me "There's an Ethiopian in the woodpile." Another wing-nut from Alabama told me that Barr was "Tetched with the tar brush."
http://stonezone.com/article.php?id=128

Earlier on in 2007 he wrote a post mainly to sing Huckabee's praises, where he had this to say about RP:

Ron Paul's conviction that we should negotiate with Castro has him sounding more and more like Obama. He will have trouble managing double digits anywhere.
http://stonezone.com/article.php?id=20

I saw some others where he spoke negatively about the way the GOP treated RP delegates in the 2012 convention. Good for him for that.

Ender
01-31-2019, 03:54 PM
More roadside theatre from Roger Stone feat Ben Swann


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHvn7T1B094

Ben is ALWAYS 1000% ON.THE. NOSE.

dannno
01-31-2019, 04:35 PM
Thanks for finding that.

But notice that it was written after RP's failure to win the Republican nomination, and seems to be arguing more for him to endorse GJ than anything else. Did Stone have anything to say about Ron's run earlier than that (either that time or 4 years prior to that), when he was still trying to get the nomination? Or did he only care about him once that was over and he wanted him to endorse GJ?

For that matter, did Stone endorse Rand in 2016? Or Trump? Or neither?

Dude..

I thought the main point of that article was that Roger Stone has been supporting Ron Paul since 1977 when he first ran for congress.. Now you're trying to say he was late to the game?

I think Roger Stone's issue with Ron Paul was the perception that he had very low polling numbers. I believe the polls were rigged, and I think if Stone had been a bigger part of the movement he would have seen that.

I remember going to see Ron Paul speak at UCLA in 2012 and there were over 10,000 people, most young people, cheering him on. That's more than a lot of Trump rallies.

Stone helped Jack Kemp in 1988 instead of Ron Paul.. both were small government libertarians, but Jack Kemp had a real shot at winning the GOP Primary.

So I believe his lack of support had more to do with strategy. But Roger Stone was also Trump's wingman in the 80s, so they go back really far.


It could also be that Ron Paul had a big influence on Roger Stone in 2012:



Roger Stone, Former Nixon Hit Man, Now a Libertarian
Wednesday, 14 March 2012

In a note to his readers on February 15th Roger Stone (left) announced his resignation (http://www.stonezone.com/article.php?id=480) from the Republican Party, changing his voter registration to the Libertarian Party.


https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/9260-roger-stone-former-nixon-hit-man-now-a-libertarian

Superfluous Man
01-31-2019, 04:38 PM
I thought the main point of that article was that Roger Stone has been supporting Ron Paul since 1977 when he first ran for congress.

I don't see how someone who read the article could think that was its main point. It looks more like he supported him in 1977 and never again after that, but didn't mind bringing that earlier support up when it was useful as part of a pitch for RP to do something he wanted.

dannno
01-31-2019, 04:41 PM
I don't see how someone who read the article could think that was its main point. It looks more like he supported him in 1977 and never again after that, but didn't mind bringing that earlier support up when it was useful as part of a pitch for RP to do something he wanted.

He always supported him, but Stone is not the kind of guy who is going to come out and publicly support a candidate who is polling with 2% of the popular vote.. and he was not aware how much those polls were rigged at the time.

kona
01-31-2019, 05:32 PM
He always supported him, but Stone is not the kind of guy who is going to come out and publicly support a candidate who is polling with 2% of the popular vote.. and he was not aware how much those polls were rigged at the time.
Exactly. Stone's business was built on winning elections, not losing them. His job was to sell what everyone thinks they want, not what they think they don't want.

This gives him unique insight into the process, and furthers his credibility when advocating noninterventionism and libertarianism.

Schifference
01-31-2019, 07:41 PM
https://youtu.be/GFwfyf45vsk

Schifference
02-01-2019, 07:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf7kW_umvZ4

AuH20
02-01-2019, 07:54 PM
Stone's books are very revealing. He knows how deep the rabbit hole goes. He was part of it.