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Swordsmyth
01-31-2019, 01:19 AM
U.S. security aid for the Palestinian Authority was set to dry up on Thursday after it declined the money over concerns it could increase its exposure to U.S. anti-terrorism lawsuits.The loss of the some $60 million in annual funding would marks another tear in ties between the Trump administration and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, and potentially undermines his security cooperation with Israel in the occupied West Bank.
Diplomatic sources said Palestinian, U.S. and Israeli officials were seeking a way to keep the money flowing despite Abbas's decision to turn it down as of a Jan. 31 deadline set by Congress' Anti-Terrorism Clarification Act (ATCA) of 2018.
The ATCA empowers Americans to sue foreign aid recipients in U.S. courts over alleged complicity in "acts of war".
Abbas's administration, long accused by Israel of stoking Palestinian militant attacks, worries about such legal exposure. It denies encouraging any such acts.
"We do not want to receive financial aid, including aid provided to the security forces, so as not to be subject to the anti-terrorism law approved by Congress," one Palestinian official told Reuters on condition of anonymity.
"The U.S. administration was surprised by the Palestinian decision, and said it wanted to find a solution in order to continue aid to the Palestinian security services."
Such a solution may include finding alternative funds within the CIA budget or amending U.S. legislation, he said.
The U.S. Embassy in Israel had no immediate comment. Israeli officials declined to confirm or deny there were workaround talks, but sought to offer reassurance that Israel could manage security in the West Bank, which it captured in the 1967 Middle East War, even without Palestinian help.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-security-aid-palestinians-end-thursday-envoys-seek-101737965.html

Stratovarious
01-31-2019, 05:10 AM
''....set to dry up on Thursday after it declined the money over concerns it could increase its exposure to U.S. anti-terrorism lawsuits...''

Israel's Checks set to dry up on Thursday after it declined the money over concerns
it could increase its exposure to U.S. Israel WAR CRIMES lawsuits.

enhanced_deficit
01-31-2019, 01:14 PM
Where do you stand on this issue OP?


On the surface, this appears to be complex issue with many facets.
Part of this decision could be due to political backlash, PA had reacted very strongly after couple of Palestinians protesting MAGA's Embassy move were shot dead by Israeli military. At the time, even leftwing US media reacted very harshly, one NY paper used controversial photo with g-word caption (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522238-US-embassy-in-Jerusalem-opens-Mon-Ivanka-arrives-Bachmann-apologizes-for-Jews-conversion-rem&p=6628676&viewfull=1#post6628676) to criticize sitting Prez's daughter.


Part of it could be that Palestinians unlike Israel still refuse to embrace modern values and seem too medieval on things like abortion, homosexuality, racial equality, democracy, violence against civilians etc. Such human civil rights issues probably don't go unnoticed by our leaders.


Mike Pompeo: ‘We want the whole Middle East to look like Israel’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527357-Mike-Pompeo-‘We-want-the-whole-Middle-East-to-look-like-Israel’&)


Israeli government offers women aged 20 to 33 free abortions (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?506795-Did-Trump-just-open-the-door-for-cutting-US-taxpayers-aid-to-Israel&p=6404332&viewfull=1#post6404332)
Jan 7, 2014 -The 2014 “health basket” of medical services and medications approved by Israel’s cabinet Sunday (Jan. 5) includes free abortions for Israeli women aged 20 to 33, regardless of the circumstances.


Israel...

https://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.5674384.1515421889!/image/1018316866.jpg_gen/derivatives/fullscreen_1104xAuto/1018316866.jpg

https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/03/000_13F4LB-640x400.jpg

https://images.jpost.com/image/upload/f_auto,fl_lossy/t_Article2016_ControlFaceDetect/415031

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/israel11.jpg

https://anonhq.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/hebron-home.jpg

It's a great country.


https://s19453.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Tel-Aviv-Pride-Parade-Israel-00-e1530036256894.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/www.momentmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Normal-e1348166750891.jpg?fit=404%2C612&ssl=1http://www.habertam.com/uploads/content/palastinejpg.jpg?v=1501063633






Hence this strong gesture by taxpayers to support only modern democracy in mideast:
US Senate’s First Bill, in Midst of Shutdown, to ensure $38B Aid to Israel and no boycotts

(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529979-US-Senate’s-First-Bill-in-Midst-of-Shutdown-to-ensure-38B-Aid-to-Israel-and-no-boycotts&)U.S. security aid to Palestinians to end Thursday (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530969-U-S-security-aid-to-Palestinians-to-end-Thursday&)


But optics and perceptions should be managed carefully when navigating this thorny foreign aid issue, there is some political risk if MAGA is seen as too one sided. That perception could also furrther fuel things like recent anti-semitic caravan conspiracy theories (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529745-Caravan-3&p=6727505&viewfull=1#post6727505).

Swordsmyth
01-31-2019, 02:31 PM
Where do you stand on this issue OP?


On the surface, this appears to be complex issue with many facets.
Part of this decision could be due to political backlash, PA had reacted very strongly after couple of Palestinians protesting MAGA's Embassy move were shot dead by Israeli military. At the time, even leftwing US media reacted very harshly, one NY paper used controversial photo with g-word caption (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522238-US-embassy-in-Jerusalem-opens-Mon-Ivanka-arrives-Bachmann-apologizes-for-Jews-conversion-rem&p=6628676&viewfull=1#post6628676) to criticize sitting Prez's daughter.


Part of it could be that Palestinians unlike Israel still refuse to embrace modern values and seem too medieval on things like abortion, homosexuality, racial equality, democracy, violence against civilians etc. Such human civil rights issues probably don't go unnoticed by our leaders.


Mike Pompeo: ‘We want the whole Middle East to look like Israel’ (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527357-Mike-Pompeo-‘We-want-the-whole-Middle-East-to-look-like-Israel’&)


Israeli government offers women aged 20 to 33 free abortions (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?506795-Did-Trump-just-open-the-door-for-cutting-US-taxpayers-aid-to-Israel&p=6404332&viewfull=1#post6404332)
Jan 7, 2014 -The 2014 “health basket” of medical services and medications approved by Israel’s cabinet Sunday (Jan. 5) includes free abortions for Israeli women aged 20 to 33, regardless of the circumstances.




https://s19453.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/Tel-Aviv-Pride-Parade-Israel-00-e1530036256894.jpg
https://i0.wp.com/www.momentmag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Normal-e1348166750891.jpg?fit=404%2C612&ssl=1http://www.habertam.com/uploads/content/palastinejpg.jpg?v=1501063633






Hence this strong gesture by taxpayers to support only modern democracy in mideast:
US Senate’s First Bill, in Midst of Shutdown, to ensure $38B Aid to Israel and no boycotts

(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529979-US-Senate’s-First-Bill-in-Midst-of-Shutdown-to-ensure-38B-Aid-to-Israel-and-no-boycotts&)U.S. security aid to Palestinians to end Thursday (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530969-U-S-security-aid-to-Palestinians-to-end-Thursday&)


But optics and perceptions should be managed carefully when navigating this thorny foreign aid issue, there is some political risk if MAGA is seen as too one sided. That perception could also furrther fuel things like recent anti-semitic caravan conspiracy theories (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529745-Caravan-3&p=6727505&viewfull=1#post6727505).
I am against all foreign aid.

kona
01-31-2019, 03:27 PM
This is a good thing, but Swordsmyth is right. Cut Israel, cut it all.