SOURCE: SHUTDOWN AGREEMENT REACHED ANNOUNCEMENT SET FOR 1 PM GOVT TO REOPEN 'TEMPORARILY'

[Chester Copperpot]

that is all

[spudea]

The house is adjourned?

[EBounding]

:eyes:


I think Trump will fold. Within the next 3 weeks, Trump will sign whatever spending to end the shut down and say he's going to use the military to build some sort of wall monument. But it'll be illegal and he'll be blocked from doing it. But he'll get big MAGA credit for trying. THE END


https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-considering-agreeing-to-sign-three-week-spending-bill-as-early-as-friday-11548439078?mod=searchresults&page=1&pos=1


President Trump is considering agreeing to sign a three-week stopgap spending bill as early as Friday that would reopen the government while negotiations over border security funding continue, according to administration officials and congressional aides.

The White House is making tentative plans for Mr. Trump to deliver a speech Friday afternoon in the Rose Garden to make the announcement, one of the officials said, which would reopen the government on the 35th day of the partial government shutdown.

The plan under consideration would not provide immediate funding for a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

[dude58677]

There is nothing to corroborate this story. No other news source wrote about nor did Donald Trump mention in his tweets.

[EBounding]

There is nothing to corroborate this story. No other news source wrote about nor did Donald Trump mention in his tweets.

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Will it be a headfake? The suspense is killing me!

[specsaregood]

That would be a shame, end the furlough and restart the clock, needing to shut it down anew for 30 days before they can start laying off federal tax ticks.

[Zippyjuan]

Reportedly no wall money and just fund until February 15th.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Where's the line for the free gourmet cheese?

[timosman]

The government reopens for 3 weeks till 15th Feb


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClZ-7MmXulk

[devil21]

Thanks a lot Trump, you cost me a $5 wager. What was I thinking, putting a wager on your not folding like a walmart tent at the first hint of trouble from irritated fedgov workers and approval rating drop.

Trump: "We don't need 2000 miles of concrete wall. We never wanted that in the first place."


eta: better read whatever Congress passes in case they try to slip in some junk that otherwise wouldn't be acceptable.

[timosman]

Thanks a lot Trump, you cost me a $5 wager. What was I thinking, putting a wager on your not folding like a walmart tent at the first hint of trouble from irritated fedgov workers and approval rating drop.

Don't be petty. This is less than a cost of a medium size popcorn in a movie theatre. :D

[EBounding]

DEAL REACHED!

GOV'T REOPENING FOR 3 WEEKS!

POWERFUL ALTERNATIVE BUT DIDN'T WANT TO USE IT! (lol)

[timosman]

DEAL REACHED!

GOV'T REOPENING FOR 3 WEEKS!

POWERFUL ALTERNATIVE BUT DIDN'T WANT TO USE IT! (lol)

I can deliver SOTU!

[phill4paul]

Thanks a lot Trump, you cost me a $5 wager. What was I thinking, putting a wager on your not folding like a walmart tent at the first hint of trouble from irritated fedgov workers and approval rating drop.

Trump: "We don't need 2000 miles of concrete wall. We never wanted that in the first place."

Lol.

[RonZeplin]

Prez Trump is a surrender monkey.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/eTC7nc_aY2I/hqdefault.jpg

[devil21]

Don't be petty. This is less than a cost of a medium size popcorn in a movie theatre. :D

All the effort the shill armies spend telling us how strong Trump is and the head Deal Guy playing 35D chess and whatever, when I finally think that maybe he'll stick to his guns.....nope....still losing me money.

[Warlord]

jesus devil21, you're a savvy poster and been around a while like my good self, couldn't you see it coming?

[EBounding]

All the effort the shill armies spend telling us how strong Trump is and the head Deal Guy playing 35D chess and whatever, when I finally think that maybe he'll stick to his guns.....nope....still losing me money.

Hay, he said he'll shut down again if there's no wall deal by the 15th! :upsidedown:

[devil21]

jesus devil21, you're a savvy poster and been around a while like my good self, couldn't you see it coming?

I at least expected he would hold on until there was a little civil unrest, not some fake news LaGuardia ground-stop attributed to ATC worried about credit card bills.

eta: I've said all along there won't be any "wall" outside of what's already there. Maybe some tech upgrades that'll stuff more taxpayer dollars into the pockets of a few connected individuals that will be given those contracts. I expected Trump would be more concerned about his appearance to his dwindling base and at least wait until some genuine pushback from the public (unions and EBT crowd) before folding.

[timosman]

All the effort the shill armies spend telling us how strong Trump is and the head Deal Guy playing 35D chess and whatever, when I finally think that maybe he'll stick to his guns.....nope....still losing me money.

1. It's your fault for not specifying the terms of the bid correctly.
2. Never make bets with money you can not afford to lose.
3. Buy your own popcorn.

[devil21]

1. It's your fault for not specifying the terms of the bid correctly.
2. Never make bets with money you can not afford to lose.
3. Buy your own popcorn.

Creepy post Osama.

[enhanced_deficit]

While I would concede he folded without getting $5.7B he demanded, he did come out looking reasonable and moderate. Almost as reasonable as Jeb.
Students of art of negotiations and deal making should take notes.


Trump says federal government workers are Patriots (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530735-Tump-says-federal-government-workers-are-Patriots&)

[CaptUSA]

Hopefully, Feb 15th is long enough to ensure all those poor tax ti... I mean, federal workers, get their back pay. Then, we can play pretend again!

[dude58677]

“Power corrupts and only corrupt people seek power” Per Bylund

I’m done with politics.

[specsaregood]

Hopefully, Feb 15th is long enough to ensure all those poor tax ti... I mean, federal workers, get their back pay. Then, we can play pretend again!

And we get to reset the clock before any of them can be layed off. Way to be a Cuck, Trump.

[timosman]

“Power corrupts and only corrupt people seek power” Per Bylund

I’m done with politics.

Corrupt people win again. :D

[dude58677]

Corrupt people win again. :D

It’s not funny though.

[CaptUSA]

So, here's the big question... Will this cut into the time that the media was going to spend on Roger Stone?? :rolleyes:

[dannno]

So, here's the big question... Will this cut into the time that the media was going to spend on Roger Stone?? :rolleyes:

They needed something to distract from that nothingburger..

[tfurrh]

Less than 48 hrs after Pelosi said he couldn't be on TV

[kahless]

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[Anti Federalist]

LOL - Crimped and folded like a Chinese laundry.

Worthless...

[A Son of Liberty]

LOL - Crimped and folded like a Chinese laundry.

Worthless...

Poor guy. Where are ya gonna turn now?

[Anti Federalist]

Poor guy. Where are ya gonna turn now?

Good question...

[CCTelander]

Is this what it means to be "Alpha?"

[Superfluous Man]

Why are people saying Trump folded?

As he himself has already stated, he already got the funds for the wall from Mexico in his renegotiated trade agreement with them.

Are people not buying that?

[TheTexan]

It was his advisors who told him to do it.

The best thing Trump can do, is spend these next 3 weeks cleaning the swamp and replacing his advisors with advisors that actually have a backbone.

This is actually a good thing.

[EBounding]

Is this what it means to be "Alpha?"

u need to "TRUST TEH PLAN"!1

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[RonZeplin]

They needed something to distract from that nothingburger..

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D2TRRW/the-fox-and-the-grapes-D2TRRW.jpg

Those grapes were probably sour anyways.

[Dr.3D]

So people thought he had balls of steel, but they turned out to be Neuticles.

[spudea]

LOL - Crimped and folded like a Chinese laundry.

Worthless...

nah this just means 21 days till national emergency declaration. He has it drafted and identified 7 billion for the wall. Its another opportunity to show how the Democrats are garbage. They said open the government and we'll negotiate, blah blah.

[Swordsmyth]

nah this just means 21 days till national emergency declaration. He has it drafted and identified 7 billion for the wall. Its another opportunity to show how the Democrats are garbage. They said open the government and we'll negotiate, blah blah.
I hope you are right.

I am VERY disappointed by this.

When the next deadline comes he had better keep the shutdown going much longer.

[Slave Mentality]

Pussy

[TheCount]

Womp womp

[ProBlue33]

It's a compromise that gets him his SOTU speech and gets some money to federal workers, he should then declare a state of emergency during the speech.
That would be the best.

[Cleaner44]

LOL - Crimped and folded like a Chinese laundry.

Worthless...

It seems like he couldn't take the heat of 800,000 people not getting paychecks. He definitely appears to be concerned about looking like a team player. Maybe his strategy is smart... I will believe it when I see it.

One thing for sure is that Trump is making the case that he is not rigid and is willing to make a deal. I would think that would put the Democrats in the position that they will have to give something next.

I suppose it does disarm the argument that he will just act like a dictator. He has given in and next it will be Pelosi's turn. It should put the pressure on her to stop the next shutdown. Interesting times.

It is a shame that we have to fund this charade.

[donnay]

nah this just means 21 days till national emergency declaration. He has it drafted and identified 7 billion for the wall. Its another opportunity to show how the Democrats are garbage. They said open the government and we'll negotiate, blah blah.

Trump also said this was temporary. He is giving the Democrats/Socialist/Communists enough rope to hang themselves.

Border Patrol and Coast Guard were not being paid--lots of families who depend on their paychecks were hurting and two times, the Republicans brought up bills to pay these two "non-essential" groups and Schumer shot them down every time. Congress should not have gotten paid!

[Cleaner44]

Good question...

You know, the more I think about this, the more I think it is a solid negotiation move.

I would love to see Trump smash Pelosi, but that isn't necessarily the best political move.

Trump gave in, no doubt about it. That means he is willing to give something up and compromise.

The Democrats said they needed this to get serious about negotiating. Well now they have what they asked for.

How do they avoid compromising and giving something up in the border battle? How do avoid the SOTU now?

The ball is in Pelosi's court and she has to give something or she looks like the rigid authoritarian.

Trump wants a deal. That is what he does, he is all about making deals. The Democrats got what they asked for. The Democrats have to give something now.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump also said this was temporary. He is giving the Democrats/Socialist/Communists enough rope to hang themselves.

Border Patrol and Coast Guard were not being paid--lots of families who depend on their paychecks were hurting and two times, the Republicans brought up bills to pay these two "non-essential" groups and Schumer shot them down every time. Congress should not have gotten paid!
He has to bite the bullet and declare an emergency to send the troops to the border.

I had hoped that with the Syria and Afghanistan pullouts and the shutdown that Trump was finally ready to DO SOMETHING but I find myself back here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WbRyU8uuNk

Trump has until the 2020 election to get off of Twitter and DO SOMETHING.

TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

[Anti Globalist]

Wah wah wah.

[EBounding]

Trump’s emergency �� funding 3 weeks from now will be blocked by the courts, if he even goes through with it. No wall. Sorry.

But he will be re-elected if the economy/job market stays strong.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump’s emergency �� funding 3 weeks from now will be blocked by the courts, if he even goes through with it. No wall. Sorry.

But he will be re-elected if the economy/job market stays strong.
He needs to start the shutdown again in 3 weeks and keep it going longer this time.

[AuH20]

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[AuH20]

We may have pushed the stubborn donkey as far as he's going to go. Need to start wielding some newer, deadly weapons.

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[spudea]

Its simple, democrats can get some things they want now or get nothing.

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[CaptUSA]

You know, the more I think about this, the more I think it is a solid negotiation move.

I would love to see Trump smash Pelosi, but that isn't necessarily the best political move.

Trump gave in, no doubt about it. That means he is willing to give something up and compromise.

The Democrats said they needed this to get serious about negotiating. Well now they have what they asked for.

How do they avoid compromising and giving something up in the border battle? How do avoid the SOTU now?

The ball is in Pelosi's court and she has to give something or she looks like the rigid authoritarian.

Trump wants a deal. That is what he does, he is all about making deals. The Democrats got what they asked for. The Democrats have to give something now.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SilentFlippantBluetonguelizard-small.gif

Enjoy the political theater. You can convince yourself of anything.

[Swordsmyth]

The White House maintained Friday night that President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump) will "move forward" with plans to build a border wall "with or without the Democrats" if no funding is offered before a deadline next month.
White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders issued the warning Friday night on Twitter while defending Trump amid backlash from conservatives over his decision to reopen the government without securing funding for a border wall.
“In 21 days President realDonaldTrump is moving forward building the wall with or without the Democrats. The only outstanding question is whether the Democrats want something or nothing,” Sanders wrote.

In 21 days President January 26, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" realDonaldTrump[/URL] is moving forward building the wall with or without the Democrats. The only outstanding question is whether the Democrats want something or nothing https://t.co/dMaDfBOIuT
— Sarah Sanders (@PressSec) [URL="https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1088971799956729856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)Sanders posted the remark after Trump tweeted Friday night insisting that the deal he announced earlier in the day to fully reopen the federal government for three weeks “was in no way a concession (https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/427073-trump-ending-shutdown-was-in-no-way-a-concession).”


The president indicated Friday that if lawmakers do not offer funding for a wall when the three-week measure ends on Feb. 15, another shutdown could begin or he could declare an emergency to build the wall.
“We’ll work with the Democrats and negotiate, and if we can’t do that, then we’ll do a – obviously we’ll do the emergency because that’s what it is. It’s a national emergency,” Trump told reporters in the Roosevelt Room of the White House.


One of his allies, Freedom Caucus leader Rep. Mark Meadows (https://thehill.com/people/mark-meadows) (R-N.C.), showed support for Trump, saying the next three weeks will show whether Congress "will do its job."
"Compromise is important, but not required, to secure our border and protect American families," he wrote.

.@POTUS (https://twitter.com/POTUS?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) has said that border barrier construction will commence within weeks. The next 3 weeks will determine whether Congress will do its job and define the construction process. Compromise is important, but not required, to secure our border and protect American families.
— Mark Meadows (@RepMarkMeadows) January 26, 2019 (https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1088974259597336576?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



More at: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/427078-white-house-trump-moving-forward-on-wall-with-or-without-dems

[devil21]

Its simple, democrats can get some things they want now or get nothing.

1088971799956729856

They already got what they wanted. More payola of taxpayer dollars for their huge federal union constituency of over 1 million federal employees. I expect the national emergency will still be declared (since it's not really about a wall imo) but that's not exactly a good thing either, since this situation still follows the REX84 script.

[Cleaner44]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SilentFlippantBluetonguelizard-small.gif

Enjoy the political theater. You can convince yourself of anything.

Whatever dude, I am just attempting to understand and possible predict where this is going. Having read some of Trump's book I have learned that he has a method to his madness.

[CaptUSA]

Whatever dude, I am just attempting to understand and possible predict where this is going. Having read some of Trump's book I have learned that he has a method to his madness.

Did you get to the part where he says you have to play to people's fantasies and you can get them to do anything?? Oh, that's a great part!!

(In case you haven't figured it out yet, he's playing you. He didn't get uber wealthy by playing the other rich people... Nah, Trump plays the suckers.)

[Cleaner44]

Did you get to the part where he says you have to play to people's fantasies and you can get them to do anything?? Oh, that's a great part!!

(In case you haven't figured it out yet, he's playing you. He didn't get uber wealthy by playing the other rich people... Nah, Trump plays the suckers.)

Aren't we really all getting played? Or are you somehow exempt from all of this bullshit?

[CaptUSA]

Aren't we really all getting played? Or are you somehow exempt from all of this bullshit?

I mean, yeah... I am. I'm as free as a bird. Harry Browne and I reached the same conclusion. You're as exempt as you wanna be.

[Cleaner44]

I mean, yeah... I am. I'm as free as a bird. Harry Browne and I reached the same conclusion. You're as exempt as you wanna be.

So did Irwin Schiff.

[enhanced_deficit]

So, here's the big question... Will this cut into the time that the media was going to spend on Roger Stone?? :rolleyes:

Why did you have to raise such a question at a time like this?

:)

[Swordsmyth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZPa1CP1_EE&feature=youtu.be

[UWDude]

He is making himself look reasonable, and the democrats unreasonable.
Feb 15, no wall, the government shuts down again.
Gonna be like Chinese water torture for all those non essential government employees... and that topic of conversation at non essential government employee workplaces these next three weeks?
It not like more than 1/3 of them actually think the wall is good idea anyway.
Another third might actually not care.

Trump is going to prove to them, Nancy will throw them under the bus, to get her spat on with Trump.

[A Son of Liberty]

Thank goodness. Early on in this thread I was concerned that the Trumpists were gonna boo-hoo themselves to death!

SOOOOO glad they finally turned it around and explained the 3D chess!

[CCTelander]

Thank goodness. Early on in this thread I was concerned that the Trumpists were gonna boo-hoo themselves to death!

SOOOOO glad they finally turned it around and explained the 3D chess!


Well, you know, Trump Humpers gonna hump Trump. It's what they do.

[A Son of Liberty]

Well, you know, Trump Humpers gonna hump Trump. It's what they do.

It took them a couple pages to get turned on this time, though. Maybe they're starting to figure him out?

Nah.

[CaptUSA]

It took them a couple pages to get turned on this time, though. Maybe they're starting to figure him out?

Nah.

They just needed the talking points. They’re good now.

[tpreitzel]

This three week hiatus from the family feud might be legal justification before the US Supreme Court for an eventual state of emergency. The Democrats will have to defend their unwillingness to negotiate and their fantasy of providing border security without a physical barrier. We'll see.

[AuH20]

Reisgn if you're going to listen to that Broadway Show lover.

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[fcreature]

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lmao

If true, how many times does he have to repeat this cycle to learn his lesson?

It's a constant thing. Trump wants to do one thing. Some neocon advisor convinces him of doing something else that betrays his base. Trump ignores his instincts, goes with neocon advisor. Immediately regrets. Rinse & repeat...

[AuH20]

lmao

If true, how many times does he have to repeat this cycle to learn his lesson?

It's a constant thing. Trump wants to do one thing. Some neocon advisor convinces him of doing something else that betrays his base. Trump ignores his instincts, goes with neocon advisor. Immediately regrets. Rinse & repeat...

They are whispering into his ear that only THEY can protect him from Mueller. It's a confidence game that they are using to their maximum advantage. Trump is weak. In fact, I think Melania is much tougher.

[CCTelander]

It took them a couple pages to get turned on this time, though. Maybe they're starting to figure him out?

Nah.


There's no talking people out of their delusions, especially on a public forum where they're surrounded by others who share those delisions, and are therefore constantly having them reinforced.

[acptulsa]

It took them a couple pages to get turned on this time, though. Maybe they're starting to figure him out?

Nah.

The more obvious the handwriting on the wall, the more convoluted the excuse needs to be, and the linger it takes to concoct it.

The thing that amazes me is they don't make Trump dream up his own excuses. Seems like the least he could do.


Trump is weak.

Well, now. Only two short years ago, that was still treasonous sacrilege against the Alpha Mouth that was oh so much more obnoxio--er, I mean stronger than Rand Paul.

There might be learning going on.

[AuH20]

Well, now. Only two short years ago, that was still treasonous sacrilege against the Alpha Mouth that was oh so much more obnoxio--er, I mean stronger than Rand Paul.

There might be learning going on.

I have been banned from the Donald for roughly 11 months. So yes, I'm quite aware of his shortcomings. I am articulate and the mods over there don't like my threads.

[acptulsa]

I have been banned from the Donald for roughly 11 months. So yes, I'm quite aware of his shortcomings. I am articulate and the mods over there don't like my threads.

And when they stick the next figurehead in your face and tell you what you want to hear about him, are you going to buy the bullshit again? When people try to tell you the truth, are you going to scream and cry and call them fools and traitors and SJWs and everything but white men again?

Don't make promises you can't keep. Voting for whatever RINO gets the most publicity is a longstanding GOP tradition. Millions of babies have died bloody deaths since Republicans first said, 'I know he won't do anything about abortion but I'm voting for any old Republican to send a message.'

Like Pontius Pilate, Republican primary voters wash their hands and go to bed, and awaken the next day refreshed and ready to be suckered again.

[AuH20]

And when they stick the next figurehead in your face and tell you what you want to hear about him, are you going to buy the bull$#@! again? When people try to tell you the truth, are you going to scream and cry and call them fools and traitors and SJWs and everything but white men again?

Don't make promises you can't keep. Voting for whatever RINO gets the most publicity is a longstanding GOP tradition. Millions of babies have died bloody deaths since Republicans first said, 'I know he won't do anything about abortion but I'm voting for any old Republican to send a message.'

Like Pontius Pilate, Republican primary voters wash their hands and go to bed, and awaken the next day refreshed and ready to be suckered again.

It was still the right move. Trump was the right choice, especially with the avalanche of criminal activity that was confirmed. However, it was always going to be the equivalent of pushing a boulder up a hill. At some point, you let the boulder go. We're getting closer to that point.

[CCTelander]

It was still the right move. Trump was the right choice, especially with the avalanche of criminal activity that was confirmed. However, it was always going to be the equivalent of pushing a boulder up a hill. At some point, you let the boulder go. We're getting closer to that point.


So, no real learning going on then? Got it.

[UWDude]

LoL @ all the people who hate the wall gloating about it supposedly being defeated.
1. he's going to get the wall
2. nobody cares that you losers think Trump is "weak".

[AuH20]

So, no real learning going on then? Got it.

Yes, radicalizing the populace with Trump was well worth it, even if he was paper tiger. More people will start looking at other options.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TExdmFEETPQ

[acptulsa]

So, no real learning going on then? Got it.

The Grand GOP Tradition lives on. They're oh so happy to vote to screw themselves, as long as they get to Send That Message. Kind of like the field mouse that shows the hawk that glorious middle finger.


Yes, radicalizing the populace with Trump was well worth it, even if he was paper tiger.

Nominating Jeb would have done a damned sight better job of pissing people off. If the last election had been Bush v. Clinton, the revolution would have been in full swing by Thanksgiving 2016.

[AuH20]

Nominating Jeb would have done a damned sight better job of pissing people off. If the last election had been Bush v. Clinton, the revolution would have been in full swing by Thanksgiving 2016.

But no criminality would have been unearthed. Alternative media would have likely been completely made illegal by either a fairness doctrine or a one sided FCC degree. Trump bought us time.

[acptulsa]

Trump bought us time.

Trump gave you a cock to suck, cuck. Nothing more. Nothing.

We have no time. They're very busy while you're screaming to be walled in like a prisoner making all the search engines go through Google, ensuring themselves back door decryption keys, installing cameras, passing tax-by-location-tracking, making private vehicles unaffordable, packing the SCOTUS with Constitution shredders like Kavanaugh, and bending you over.

Buy us time. Buy some brains.

All Trump ever gave you was a pacifier. Keep chewing on it, though, and he might just give you some Kreme Filling.

[AuH20]

Trump gave you a cock to suck, cuck. Nothing more. Nothing.

We have no time. They're very busy while you're screaming to be walled in like a prisoner making all the search engines go through Google, ensuring themselves back door decryption keys, installing cameras, passing tax-by-location-tracking, making private vehicles unaffordable, packing the SCOTUS with Constitution shredders like Kavanaugh, and bending you over.

Buy us time. Buy some brains.

Yes, that will work when the lights go out. You think small. All the elaborate tech is rendered useless with some American know-how. I wonder how much diesel and unleaded they have stored for their backup systems.

[A Son of Liberty]

Trump gave you a cock to suck, cuck. Nothing more. Nothing.

We have no time. They're very busy while you're screaming to be walled in like a prisoner making all the search engines go through Google, ensuring themselves back door decryption keys, installing cameras, passing tax-by-location-tracking, making private vehicles unaffordable, packing the SCOTUS with Constitution shredders like Kavanaugh, and bending you over.

Buy us time. Buy some brains.

All Trump ever gave you was a pacifier. Keep chewing on it, though, and he might just give you some Kreme Filling.

This might be the most perfect post @ RPF since at least 2016. Cheers, sir.

[acptulsa]

Yes, that will work when the lights go out. You think small.

Uh huh. And you think criminality is getting unearthed.

Trump's buying time by fooling you into believing Hillary Clinton might go to jail. What we needed was a Jeb candidacy so the people who know Clinton needs to be in jail can pull their heads out and realize she's not going there.

[AuH20]

Uh huh. And you think criminality is getting unearthed.

Trump's buying time by fooling you into believing Hillary Clinton might go to jail. What we needed was a Job candidacy so the people who know Clinton needs to be in jail can pull their heads out and realize she's not going there.

Trump buys time by playing out the entire sordid, sausage making drama for the populace. The logical ones will conclude that there is no salvaging the system. I'm already hearing from strange places that others want the FBI and CIA abolished. Real Progress, thanks to the election of Trump. Perhaps, the greatest recruitment tool in my lifetime. Building non-political measures through political means.

[CCTelander]

Trump gave you a cock to suck, cuck. Nothing more. Nothing.

We have no time. They're very busy while you're screaming to be walled in like a prisoner making all the search engines go through Google, ensuring themselves back door decryption keys, installing cameras, passing tax-by-location-tracking, making private vehicles unaffordable, packing the SCOTUS with Constitution shredders like Kavanaugh, and bending you over.

Buy us time. Buy some brains.

All Trump ever gave you was a pacifier. Keep chewing on it, though, and he might just give you some Kreme Filling.


"You must spread some Reputation around..."

[juleswin]

Trump gave you a cock to suck, cuck. Nothing more. Nothing.

We have no time. They're very busy while you're screaming to be walled in like a prisoner making all the search engines go through Google, ensuring themselves back door decryption keys, installing cameras, passing tax-by-location-tracking, making private vehicles unaffordable, packing the SCOTUS with Constitution shredders like Kavanaugh, and bending you over.

Buy us time. Buy some brains.

All Trump ever gave you was a pacifier. Keep chewing on it, though, and he might just give you some Kreme Filling.

I don't what else to say, I think you've said it all. Well stated.

Btw, I bet what you just said went right over his head.

[AuH20]

The problem with cucks is that they want to bitch and moan without doing anything. Retreat into their increasingly smaller safe spaces as the Red Tide soaks the land.

The shrewd ones among us initiated beneficial political action for both intel and recruitment purposes. We wanted to utilize Trump as effectively as possible to destabilize the political system and force the salvageable remainder of the populace to make a life-altering choice.

Plant the seed that political energy is ultimately a waste of human action, since the manipulation of human psychology is predicated on emitting primal clues to your target. One indelible lesson gleaned from human interaction is that The strong project fear and the weak acquiesce in their presence. That's largely the dominating mindset we need to employ, if we are going to wrangle control from the elites. We need to steal this powerful mantle from them and re-calibrate society to more noble ends. One side of the 10% gets to choose the future.

[acptulsa]

The problem with cucks is that they want to bitch and moan without doing anything. Retreat into their increasingly smaller safe spaces as the Red Tide soaks the land.

The shrewd ones among us initiated beneficial political action for both intel and recruitment purposes. We wanted to utilize Trump as effectively as possible to destabilize the political system and force the salvageable remainder of the populace to make a life-altering choice. Plant the seed that political energy is ultimately a waste of human action, since the manipulation of human psychology is predicated on primal clues. The strong project fear and the weak acquiesce in their presence. That's where we need to go if we are going to wrangle control from the elites. We need to steal the mantle from them and re-calibrate society.

Keep patting yourself on the back for helping subvert the Ron Paul libertarian movement into a xenophobic flocking of the sheep to a formerly open Democrat.

I hope you break your arm.

And you're wrong. There's something else you cucks like to do--put on sackcloth, sit in the ashes, and spin up long winded excuses.

[AuH20]

Keep patting yourself on the back for helping subvert the Ron Paul libertarian movement into a xenophobic flocking of the sheep to a formerly open Democrat.

I hope you break your arm.

And you're wrong. There's something else you cucks like to do--put on sackcloth, sit in the ashes, and spin up long winded excuses.

I'm talking to a ghost that gave up fighting. Or perhaps you're fighting yesterday's war? Boogey Boogey, NSA.

[acptulsa]

I'm talking to a ghost that gave up fighting. Or perhaps you're fighting yesterday's war? Boogey Boogey, NSA.

I'm seeing a bunch of self-satisfied fools who consider helping the elites divide us against ourselves to be useful, consider us sucking on pacifiers a good use of "bought time", and consider "sending a message" something more than being a cuck while millions of babies die

[juleswin]

I'm seeing a bunch of self-satisfied fools who consider helping the elites divide us against ourselves to be useful, consider us sucking on pacifiers a good use of "bought time", and consider "sending a message" something more than being a cuck while millions of babies die

Are u saying he secretly is in favor of abortion?

[AuH20]

I'm seeing a bunch of self-satisfied fools who consider helping the elites divide us against ourselves to be useful, consider us sucking on pacifiers a good use of "bought time", and consider "sending a message" something more than being a cuck while millions of babies die

I have a question. If you can't get this fictional universal uprising of every race and creed, will you give up? We have to go with the army we have been given. I can't wait around until Rashida or Juan attain an 8th grade reading level or stop blowing half their paycheck on rubber shoes made in Thailand. You're living in fantasy land.

For some strange reason, only whites are seemingly receptive to the self-ownership message that we promote. No one wants to hear about that racist Praxeology or concept of personal responsibility.

And I'm not a white supremacist. I want to eliminate the current criminal class at the top, install ethical leaders and walk away. Throw in some libertarian principles cloaked as humanitarian needs and hope the sheep don't stray.

[acptulsa]

Throw in some libertarian principles cloaked as humanitarian needs and hope the sheep don't stray.

Don't talk about sheep as if you aren't one, and don't even use the word libertarian. We had a candidate who was as libertarian as we could ever want or need, and like a teenage girl, you trashed him because he wasn't Alpha enough to make you smile at his obnoxiousness. That and the MSM wasn't talking about him, so you'd have had to go out on a limb with us to support him.

I'll never figure out why it's the GOP which is represented by the elephant, and not the jackass. Republicans always forget, and it's Republicans you can't get through to without the aid of a 2x4.


Are u saying he secretly is in favor of abortion?

What I'm saying is, Republicans have wasted decades voting for abortion supporters to send a message to TPTB that they hate abortion. What I'm saying is, it's the people who spend the most time calling everyone else cucks who are the biggest suckers.

What I'm saying is, I've been watching Republicans nominate their worst candidate since Nixon, and the reason this nation is in the hole it's in is because conservatives let Republican primary voters get away with spinning up lame excuses for themselves.

[Anti Globalist]

So in addition to Trump Derangement Syndrome, we also have Trump Disillusion Syndrome.

[acptulsa]

So in addition to Trump Derangement Syndrome, we also have Trump Disillusion Syndrome.

Three D chess.

Deny he is what he is.

Become Deranged when you hear the truth.

Give up and be Disillusioned.

[tommyrp12]

Looks like it's a good time to start donating to Rand for 2020 if possible. Every time Trump caves there should be a money bomb. Five dollar donations and up so everyone can participate.

[TheCount]

The problem with cucks is that they want to bitch and moan without doing anything. Retreat into their increasingly smaller safe spaces as the Red Tide soaks the land.

Is this autobiographical?

[acptulsa]

https://www.grnewsletters.com/archive/thedailybell_newswire/How-the-Shutdown-Shows-Us-Exactly-Where-to-Start-Cutting-Government-649480303.html?e=&u=S6bT5&s=oHzcCR



The government holds the economy hostage.

They create a problem by putting themselves in the middle of everyday normal economic transactions. Then when they don’t get their way, they stop doing their job, but won’t get out of the way and let someone else do it.

As I mentioned the other day, the TSA is a prime example. They provide BAD airport security, which gets even worse when they are understaffed and unpaid.

But if airports used their own security, like San Francisco International, then they would actually keep the airplanes safe AND avoid defunding during political squabbles.

But airports need TSA approval to go private… So if the TSA wants its budget restored, they can cause pain to US travelers with slow security lines, while preventing the companies and customers from solving the problem naturally.

Which they would solve because profits depend on it.

But the government doesn’t profit, it takes.

And if they want to keep taking, they have to make sure you feel the hurt when they aren’t there serving your needs.

Private sector incentive: solve your problems.

Government incentive: make you feel the pain to solve their problems.

Vox provided some examples of all the ways the government shutdown is hurting the economy.

Problem A: The IRS is not processing W-2 tax forms so companies cannot get employees the information they need to file taxes and get a tax return.

Solution A: Stop stealing people’s money. I won’t dive into all the reasons the income tax is unjust. But we can all agree that having the government hold extra money that you earned, only to return it later without interest is bull.

So whether it is abolishing the income tax and IRS, or less intense tax reform, this problem doesn’t need to exist. It was created by the government, and they will solve it for a price. That’s how government functions.

Problem B: “[T]he FBI has stalled interviews of child victims and indictments for homicides and child sexual assault prosecutions.”

Solution B: Are you freaking kidding me?

Again, it would take pages and pages to explain ALL the reasons the FBI is terrible–why you can’t trust them, how they literally plan all the terrorism they prevent, and why private sector investigations would be better…

But suffice it to say that if it is this easy to get the government to stops investigating murder and child rape, then they shouldn’t be the ones doing it!

We’d be better off with private crime insurance.

Problem C: “[T]he EPA conducts more than 10,000 [wastewater treatment plant] inspections per year and was already behind before the shutdown started.”

Solution C: So the EPA was already doing a terrible job, now they are doing no job.

But let’s fund them and get them up and running doing a crappy job again?

Or let’s take this opportunity to end the EPA altogether so that they don’t give people a false sense of security, basically lying about keeping them safe from pollutants.

Then a private company would seize that opportunity to do the job instead. Worried about corruption? A private company has much more to lose for doing a bad job compared to the EPA…

But when the EPA botched a cleanup and spilled a million gallons of toxic chemicals into the Colorado River, what happened? Nothing.

Sometimes I start writing these articles and I’m like, oh man, do I have a strong enough point to make, is there enough data, enough examples…

And other times like today I have to stop because I could go on for a thousand more pages about how stupid it is that we let the government dominate nearly everything in our lives!

Today is one of those days I start writing an article and by the end of it, I want to grab a megaphone and scream some sanity into the world.

WHY THE HELL ARE WE STILL DOING THIS?!

Why do we still let the government handle all these things?

There are only two possible scenarios:

1. The government is doing a job that is not important. Therefore NO ONE, including the government, should do it.

2. Or the government it doing a job that is really important. Therefore the government should DEFINITELY NOT be the one to do it.

The Daily Bell, P.O. Box 9 4629 Forsyth St., Bagdad, FL 32530, United States

If there's one thing we've learned from the lack of panic and pain we saw during the partial shutdown, it's this: The leeches need us much more than we need the leeches.

[Zippyjuan]

Is it truely a "cave" if it is only a "time out"? Though he did say he would not sign anything which did not include any money for the wall. Perhaps he hoped it would at least get him his State of The Union speech- though it looks like that is still on hold.

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[UWDude]

Trump gave you a cock to suck, cuck. Nothing more. Nothing.

We have no time. They're very busy while you're screaming to be walled in like a prisoner making all the search engines go through Google, ensuring themselves back door decryption keys, installing cameras, passing tax-by-location-tracking, making private vehicles unaffordable, packing the SCOTUS with Constitution shredders like Kavanaugh, and bending you over.

Buy us time. Buy some brains.

All Trump ever gave you was a pacifier. Keep chewing on it, though, and he might just give you some Kreme Filling.

LOL. HE so mad nobody listens to him.

Have you changed a single mind in the past three years?

XD

Maybe post #46,042 will do the trick. XD


you trashed him because he wasn't Alpha enough
Glorious salt is flowing. ACPtulsa is raging. XD Calling me manic-depressive XD

1. Nobody trashed Rand. But fact of the matter, he still has some learning to do about how to power play in Washington.

2. I love it every time I see TDS sufferers spurt on about me calling Trump the ultimate Alpha. It's as if somebody with 45,000 posts on a forum is still in delusion about his place in the social hierarchy. Trump was the captain of the football, basketball, and baseball team at his high school. XD I bet somebody is goign to pee themselves tonight dreaming about high school bullying flashbacks. XD

[Origanalist]

https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/935851141561942016

[enhanced_deficit]

I'm bit concerned that controversial memes like these could dampen the winning spirit after great deal just made.



Napoleon: We have reached a deal to end the battle
https://image.slidesharecdn.com/frenchrevolutionunit5themes1-150306063140-conversion-gate01/95/american-and-french-revolutions-55-638.jpg?cb=1425645225



Humor Aside, Media Cartoons Go Too Far

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/01/25/how-trump-vs-pelosi-battle-is-playing-out-according-cartoons

How the Trump vs. Pelosi battle is playing out, according to cartoons

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/n3jep9Oa1cfngLEUzjCsNeNdJAE=/600x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/XIGUQQBJYJGHZMO776YLWP37SU.JPG

https://www.washingtonpost.com/resizer/YJRtErhj4INKsiiY3lIKLbiGkAI=/1484x0/arc-anglerfish-washpost-prod-washpost.s3.amazonaws.com/public/AWQPJY4QVJHQLCW7BSR7W2UUWM.jpg

[UWDude]

I'm bit concerned that controversial memes like these could dampen the winning spirit after great deal just made.



Napoleon: We have reached a deal to end the battle
https://image.slidesharecdn.com/frenchrevolutionunit5themes1-150306063140-conversion-gate01/95/american-and-french-revolutions-55-638.jpg?cb=1425645225

Your icketard memes are so pathetic. :tears:

"controversial"

LoL

Nobody looks at that shit. It's fucking garbage.

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DeaQTiAeVs

[timosman]

http://www.theamericanmirror.com/applause-line-nancy-pelosi-repeatedly-tells-mayors-to-clap-for-her/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJN1Shh5OWo


House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was like a mother hen to America’s mayors on Wednesday, telling them when to clap for her.

After thanking a member of her audience, she said, “That’s an applause line! I’ll let you know.”

She followed through on her promise.

[Slave Mentality]

Is it truely a "cave" if it is only a "time out"? Though he did say he would not sign anything which did not include any money for the wall. Perhaps he hoped it would at least get him his State of The Union speech- though it looks like that is still on hold.

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The dumbass Can’t manage to use capitalization Properly.

No Cave! Lol

[brushfire]

So the national park shutdown is nearing an end? Thank goodness.

[oyarde]

I am kind of hoping for a summer of unsupervised national park exploration .

[Cap]

Trump gave you a cock to suck, cuck. Nothing more. Nothing.

We have no time. They're very busy while you're screaming to be walled in like a prisoner making all the search engines go through Google, ensuring themselves back door decryption keys, installing cameras, passing tax-by-location-tracking, making private vehicles unaffordable, packing the SCOTUS with Constitution shredders like Kavanaugh, and bending you over.

Buy us time. Buy some brains.

All Trump ever gave you was a pacifier. Keep chewing on it, though, and he might just give you some Kreme Filling.Simply Epic!

[AuH20]

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[Superfluous Man]

The dumbass Can’t manage to use capitalization Properly.

No Cave! Lol

+rep

[Todd]

Looks like it's a good time to start donating to Rand for 2020 if possible. Every time Trump caves there should be a money bomb. Five dollar donations and up so everyone can participate.

Lol. Things are going to get interesting around here if Rand decides to throw his hat back in the ring. This is not the same place as in 2014. You're going to see how people really line up in principle if the Donald has a challenger. I'm betting there's a large segment that will go down the toilet with the MAGA hat on.

[Superfluous Man]

Lol. Things are going to get interesting around here if Rand decides to throw his hat back in the ring. This is not the same place as in 2014. You're going to see how people really line up in principle if the Donald has a challenger. I'm betting there's a large segment that will go down the toilet with the MAGA hat on.

Rand won't challenge Trump in 2020.

But your last sentence is right.

[AuH20]

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[tommyrp12]

Lol. Things are going to get interesting around here if Rand decides to throw his hat back in the ring.

It would be interesting if Rand took up the border protection torch. I'm looking forward to more RPF money bombs and debate watches regardless.

[Todd]

Rand won't challenge Trump in 2020.

But your last sentence is right.

I don't think so either, but what a dumpsterfire it would be.

[shakey1]

https://cdn.minds.com/fs/v1/thumbnail/935851141561942016

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[EBounding]

Trump has zero leverage--he is now "The Shutdown Villain". Doing another shutdown in 3 weeks will only help the Democrats and really hurt himself. They have zero incentive to "negotiate".

I think he'll eventually concede to a Jeb Bush/Rubio style border security plan, if it even gets that far.

[Origanalist]

I don't think so either, but what a dumpsterfire it would be.

Oh dear Lord, please let it happen. :happy:

[Swordsmyth]

Trump has zero leverage--he is now "The Shutdown Villain". Doing another shutdown in 3 weeks will only help the Democrats and really hurt himself. They have zero incentive to "negotiate".
That is backwards, he is the "reasonable" one who offered compromises and even agreed to a pause in the shutdown, starting the shutdown again can only benefit him and hurt them.


I think he'll eventually concede to a Jeb Bush/Rubio style border security plan, if it even gets that far.
Nope.

[AuH20]

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[enhanced_deficit]

That is backwards, he is the "reasonable" one who offered compromises and even agreed to a pause in the shutdown, starting the shutdown again can only benefit him and hurt them.


You may have a point partially, but he's not as "reasonable" as Jeb Bush.

[Swordsmyth]

You may have a point partially, but he's not as "reasonable" as Jeb Bush.
We wouldn't want him to be, we want him to be "unreasonable" and he is doing that while appearing "reasonable" in order to get moderates on his side and against the Demoncrats.

#Winning

[Cleaner44]

You know, the more I think about this, the more I think it is a solid negotiation move.

I would love to see Trump smash Pelosi, but that isn't necessarily the best political move.

Trump gave in, no doubt about it. That means he is willing to give something up and compromise.

The Democrats said they needed this to get serious about negotiating. Well now they have what they asked for.

How do they avoid compromising and giving something up in the border battle? How do avoid the SOTU now?

The ball is in Pelosi's court and she has to give something or she looks like the rigid authoritarian.

Trump wants a deal. That is what he does, he is all about making deals. The Democrats got what they asked for. The Democrats have to give something now.

Well we are starting to see this play out. The ball is in Pelosi's court and it looks like she doesn't want another shutdown. How will she avoid it without giving Trump his funding?

Top Democrat: There won't be another shutdown over Trump's wall
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/top-democrat-won-shutdown-trump-wall-190207151519141.html

[Swordsmyth]

Well we are starting to see this play out. The ball is in Pelosi's court and it looks like she doesn't want another shutdown. How will she avoid it without giving Trump his funding?

Top Democrat: There won't be another shutdown over Trump's wall
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/02/top-democrat-won-shutdown-trump-wall-190207151519141.html
There will be another shutdown, hopefully it will be even longer.

[Swordsmyth]

https://i.imgur.com/JXRgCKt.png

[RonZeplin]

Shutdown wall amnesty plan, GOP v2.0

https://tse1.explicit.bing.net/th?id=OIP.gwDeRbWb_aRBrilDsFOXTwHaFj&pid=Api