Roger Stone charged

[Warlord]

https://www.apnews.com/1dcac576e9964f3d98b96b8052f61f8c

[Anti Federalist]

Warlord, you're as bad as Collinz.


A statement from special counsel spokesman Peter Carr reads: “The indictment, which was unsealed upon arrest, contains seven counts: one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements, and one count of witness tampering.”

So basically a Sec 1001 prosecution.

When will people learn: shut the fuck up. Tell them nothing.

[specsaregood]

Warlord, you're as bad as Collinz.
So basically a Sec 1001 prosecution.
When will people learn: shut the fuck up. Tell them nothing.

What if you say nothing and they then claim you did say something anyways?

[Warlord]

Haha AF, the basic rule .. do not talk to cops

[TheCount]

But what does Tucker Carlson think about it?

[Danke]

But what does Tucker Carlson think about it?

Contact the ShowContact Tucker and send us your questions, comments or concerns.

https://www.foxnews.com/shows/tucker-carlson-tonight

[AuH20]

Charged for having sources inside the federal agencies and the DNC. They want names. Let's call this for what it is.

[AuH20]

Fear not comrade. If you work with us, this won't happen to you.

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[AuH20]

Alex is next. He better get ready.

[Warlord]

Alex is next. He better get ready.

Alex has his hands full with defamation lawsuits from Sandy Hook parents

[spudea]

Process crimes without any connection to Russia. What a sham.

[Superfluous Man]

Alex is next. He better get ready.

Who's Alex?

[Stratovarious]

Who's Alex?

Alex Jones

[Superfluous Man]

Alex Jones

I was afraid of that.

I was hoping that his status here was not such that people would be expected to know him by his first name alone.

[Stratovarious]

Process Crimes are actionable Offences , Espionage is not*.

*Provided your name is Hillary Clinton.

[AZJoe]

How convenient that Mueller's team tipped off CNN to come and film the raid for them.

[dannno]

They got his wingman.

Trump is going to be pissed..

[AuH20]

How convenient that Mueller's team tipped off CNN to come and film the raid for them.

CNN is basically an offshoot of the CIA/FBI.

[AZJoe]

"Stone was indicted Thursday (https://www.justice.gov/sco) by a Grand Jury but is not accused of coordinating with Russia’s election election interference (https://saraacarter.com/armed-fbi-agents-arrest-roger-stone-in-predawn-raid/?fbclid=IwAR0jPojURQ8SMk75s8kVCH24u4Mb98RWInb31aNX MJAkI42P7Bxg5wwNxsM). Instead, Mueller’s office (https://saraacarter.com/cohen-pleads-guilty-to-lying-to-congress-critics-say-mueller-is-fishing-for-crimes/) has charged him with witness tampering, obstruction and false statements …

[Stratovarious]

I was afraid of that.

I was hoping that his status here was not such that people would be expected to know him by his first name alone.
I think most of the people here have probably seen a Jones clip or two, Ron Paul was on his
show quite bit and I think Rand a few times.
Alex is actually the biggest influence for the 'freedom renaissance' , probably much more so than
Ron, however, many know Alex only as a hypocritical, buffoon prone to running off at the mouth
and forgetting or omitting to document stories, I see him that way, yet he is or
'was what he was', a man that awakened Millions all over the world, helped get Trump Elected.
Alex held interviews with incredible people, exposed ormade better known 100's of real issues
that needed to be seen/known.
Not many would have ever known anything about William Binney, Aaron Russo, and so many more.

[Stratovarious]

Fear not comrade. If you work with us, this won't happen to you.

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Isn't that disgusting, CNN.........Stalinists, FBI = MAO

[donnay]

A CNN reporter was just driving around Ft. Lauderdale and was lucky enough to record the full swat raid a 66 year old man, Roger Stone? What a bunch of BS!

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[timosman]

I was afraid of that.

I was hoping that his status here was not such that people would be expected to know him by his first name alone.

That's terrible. This place will never get a passing grade. :cool:

[Superfluous Man]

I think most of the people here have probably seen a Jones clip or two

Sure. Just like we've seen Tom Brokaw clips. But a fellow can't just mention the name Tom and assume that people will take him to mean that Tom.

[dannno]

Sure. Just like we've seen Tom Brokaw clips. But a fellow can't just mention the name Tom and assume that people will take him to mean that Tom.

How many Tom Brokaw threads are on this forum? 3 maybe? How many should there be? 2 maybe?

Alex Jones talks about issues pertinent to our discussions and liberty on a daily basis.. he probably has tens of thousands of threads, and perhaps should have more.

[Warlord]

Agreed Dannno and many of us identify him by his first name. As for Tucker i watch him every night.. best host on FOX

[donnay]

How many Tom Brokaw threads are on this forum? 3 maybe? How many should there be? 2 maybe?

Alex Jones talks about issues pertinent to our discussions and liberty on a daily basis.. he probably has tens of thousands of threads, and perhaps should have more.

Alex has been on the right side of history and a patriot--regardless of what some ne'er do well's think.

[Brian4Liberty]

What would we be hearing from the leftist media if Trump had appointed a special prosecutor, and people like Van Jones were being arrested and put in jail for "lying to Congress"?

[Warlord]

What would we be hearing from the leftist media if Trump had appointed a special prosecutor, and people like Van Jones were being arrested and put in jail for "lying to Congress"?

Don't forget James Clapper lying to Congress when Snowden revealed it

[thundaga99]

God, it infuriates me when anti-trump leftist dummies -- who couldn't accurately explain what the Mueller probe has produced so far -- are passing this news around as if it represents yet another blow for Mueller and his case of proving Trump-Russia collusion. They do this every time, so I should really be used to it by now. The Stone Indictment doesn't add anything to the BS thesis central to Russiagate, i.e. that Trump and Putin are colluding. haha

[Brian4Liberty]

https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/01/25/roger-stone-indicted-dan-bongino-highly-unusual-arrest-former-trump-adviser


On "Fox & Friends" Friday morning, Dan Bongino weighed in on the arrest of Roger Stone, which he called "highly unusual."

Stone, a former political adviser to President Trump, has been indicted on charges of obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering as part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

A spokesman for Mueller’s office said Stone, 66, was arrested in Fort Lauderdale on Friday morning after being indicted by a federal grand jury a day earlier, FoxNews.com reported.

Bongino, a former NYPD officer and Secret Service agent, said it is "highly unusual" that authorities arrested Stone at his home as opposed to letting him turn himself in, since the crimes he has been charged with are non-violent and there appears to be no obvious urgency to the arrest.

"Roger Stone is no flight risk at all. He's one of the most recognizable people in this entire investigation," Bongino said. "Why would you hit his door at six o'clock in the morning to arrest him with the FBI and not allow him to turn himself in?"

He said the answer is "pretty obvious," noting that the arrest came a day after a Fox News report that the FBI's chances of securing a 2016 surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign aide were “50/50” without the controversial anti-Trump dossier.

"We've seen this with Mueller before," Bongino said. "Whenever there's some major revelation about the corruption involved in the initiation of this case ... next thing you know, Mueller, magically the next day, something happens. There seems to be, again here, a rush to get out in front of this story."

He argued that the Mueller probe would not have been launched without a foreign intelligence agent producing an unverified document, and the fact that officials are on the record saying so is a "stunning revelation."

"I believe the Mueller probe, in and of itself, was initiated to cover up a lot of DOJ and FBI malfeasance, and I find it awfully odd that Mueller is an integral figure in all of this," Bongino said.

[Anti Federalist]

Who's Alex?

Whomp whomp!

[Brian4Liberty]

God, it infuriates me when anti-trump leftist dummies -- who couldn't accurately explain what the Mueller probe has produced so far -- are passing this news around as if it represents yet another blow for Mueller and his case of proving Trump-Russia collusion. They do this every time, so I should really be used to it by now. The Stone Indictment doesn't add anything to the BS thesis central to Russiagate, i.e. that Trump and Putin are colluding. haha

Welcome aboard!

[Brian4Liberty]

Don't forget James Clapper lying to Congress when Snowden revealed it

Great example.

[Warlord]

God, it infuriates me when anti-trump leftist dummies -- who couldn't accurately explain what the Mueller probe has produced so far -- are passing this news around as if it represents yet another blow for Mueller and his case of proving Trump-Russia collusion. They do this every time, so I should really be used to it by now. The Stone Indictment doesn't add anything to the BS thesis central to Russiagate, i.e. that Trump and Putin are colluding. haha

Hello to new member thundaga99, hope you enjoy the site as much as some of us do!

[Anti Federalist]

Alex is next. He better get ready.

He better be smart enough to not say a fucking word word to any cop, fed, DOJ "official" or Congress.

[dannno]

He better be smart enough to not say a fucking word word to any cop, fed, DOJ "official" or Congress.

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[thundaga99]

Thanks for the welcome.

[Brian4Liberty]

So basically a Sec 1001 prosecution.

When will people learn: shut the fuck up. Tell them nothing.

I believe the charge is lying to Congress. It wasn't the Police or FBI.

Kind of funny that in the past, we have always been told that this would be a purely Congressional issue, and they have limited enforcement options...

[angelatc]

Alex has his hands full with defamation lawsuits from Sandy Hook parents

Yeah. Like CNN didn't do the same things in the Catholic Maga saga.

[Brian4Liberty]

Media reports are saying that not only was he early morning arrested, they had him in hand and foot shackles in court.

[angelatc]

Don't forget James Clapper lying to Congress when Snowden revealed it

https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/1088816751784218624

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[donnay]

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[Stratovarious]

How many Tom Brokaw threads are on this forum? 3 maybe? How many should there be? 2 maybe?

Alex Jones talks about issues pertinent to our discussions and liberty on a daily basis.. he probably has tens of thousands of threads, and perhaps should have more.

:frog:
I know, I mean as far as relevancy to what is going on today,
Brokaw- -? - - uh no.....never heard of him.

Anyone that knows Alex Jones , not just because of fake news CNN, and
anyone that knows Roger Stone, not just because of fake stories and the
constant barrage of attacks by CNN et al, can't possible hear either name
and not instantly make the connection;
Alex Jones/ Roger Stone
Roger Stone/ Alex Jones

[Warlord]

https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/1088816751784218624

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It's simply amazing how Clapper gets away with it angela.

[Origanalist]

Damn government shutdown strikes again.

[Brian4Liberty]

https://twitter.com/stranahan/status/1088816751784218624

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They have no shame.

[angelatc]

It's simply amazing how Clapper gets away with it angela.

No it isn't, considering he's got dirt on every single person on the planet.

[phill4paul]

Media reports are saying that not only was he early morning arrested, they had him in hand and foot shackles in court.

And right now he is walking around free after posting a $250k bond. Lock up yo kids, lock up yo wif!

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDrulTuG50U

[AuH20]

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[kona]

Just when you think you can't be more disgusted with our country, this drops.

Roger Stone is a patriot's patriot who will end up in jail or dead before lying to appease Mueller. I HATE that this has happened to Roger, but there is no one better to handle persecution than this man. I am praying for Roger and his family.

Trump, who rarely defends his supporters, better get off the bench. If Trump doesn't fight for one of his best friends, who on Earth will he ever fight for?

[AuH20]

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[Occam's Banana]

It's simply amazing how Clapper gets away with it angela.

No it isn't, considering he's got dirt on every single person on the planet.

I pointed out the same thing in another thread (about Cohen instead of Stone) :




Why is James Clapper not in jail? Didn't he lie to Congress [...]?

Michael Cohen was charged and plead guilty to lying to Congress [...] so surely Clapper should be in the jail cell next to him, no?

Is it really that hard to figure out? The question all but answers itself ...

Hint #1: Clapper was Director of National Intelligence. Cohen was just some dime-a-dozen mouthpiece.

Hint #2: Which one was higher up the food chain in the dog-and-pony show of Congressional "oversight" - Clapper or Cohen?

Hint #3: [B]Which one is more likely to have dirt on powerful people - Clapper or Cohen?


There ain't anything "amazing" about any of this, Warlord ...

[kahless]

This is some really scary stuff resembling how countries in the third world or authoritarian regimes operate to suppress opposition.

One of many examples why this country needed a Ron Paul Presidency to deal with and put down this authoritarian competing government from within, regardless of any opposition on some issues people have with him or not voting.

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDrulTuG50U


LOL@ the Cuban lady at the end.... "Rooohghghgher, eeefff u didn't do nuhssing wrong why you think jhou hee ehr?

[Anti Federalist]

I believe the charge is lying to Congress. It wasn't the Police or FBI.

Kind of funny that in the past, we have always been told that this would be a purely Congressional issue, and they have limited enforcement options...

Doesn't have to be cops or FBI to nail you on a Section 1001 violation.

It can be ANY government "official" including Congress.

[Stratovarious]

Congress is in emergency session , determining the best way to
fit N Korea into the title; ''America''

[fcreature]

Anyone going to be investigated and indicted for leaking the information about the raid to CNN?

Doubt it.

Lawlessness everywhere in this country. Trump is absolutely MIA on the most important issue of the times. We cannot have a system where half the country believes (rightfully so) the laws only apply to them. It won't last.

[kahless]

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[timosman]

LOL@ the Cuban lady at the end.... "Rooohghghgher, eeefff u didn't do nuhssing wrong why you think jhou hee ehr?

This is a very valid question. In Cuba. Maybe her readers would really like to know? Presumption of innocence and all that stuff. :confused:

[timosman]

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I think I will just send a tweet. This will put them in place!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088832908494888961

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[kahless]

I think I will just send a tweet. This will put them in place!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1088832908494888961

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I wonder which one it is. Is he lazy, incompetent, has no real power or being told to let others run the show or else. Maybe he is worried what his enemies in the media will say, "he is interfering". Pathetically weak President.

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

This is not going to go the way they think it will. Roger Stone is a crafty one.

[TheCount]

They got his wingman.

Trump is going to be pissed..
Huckabee is already saying that it has nothing to do with Trump... pretty soon Stone will be a nobody who nobody knew and barely worked with the campaign.

[Stratovarious]

Hillary commits espionage, I know I've said this a million times, but jeeebus cheerios man,
Lock Hillary up , stop allowing these process crime witch hunts to continue.
Get Hillary, stop the nonsense.

[dannno]

Huckabee is already saying that it has nothing to do with Trump... pretty soon Stone will be a nobody who nobody knew and barely worked with the campaign.

She's right, the charges have nothing to do with Trump. However, the motivation for charging him has everything to do with Trump.

[Swordsmyth]

Anyone going to be investigated and indicted for leaking the information about the raid to CNN?

Doubt it.

Lawlessness everywhere in this country. Trump is absolutely MIA on the most important issue of the times. We cannot have a system where half the country believes (rightfully so) the laws only apply to them. It won't last.
We are on the slippery slope to civil war.

The elephant in the room is beginning to eat the furniture and press against the ceiling and walls as he grows ever larger.

Leftists are NEVER punished for ANYTHING and conservatives can be punished for NOTHING.

[dannno]

I wonder which one it is. Is he lazy, incompetent, has no real power or being told to let others run the show or else. Maybe he is worried what his enemies in the media will say, "he is interfering". Pathetically weak President.

That's a good point.. when Trump talks to the FBI guys then all of a sudden he is tampering with an investigation or some bullshit.. when he doesn't talk to them, he is portrayed as weak. What option does he have?

[timosman]

That's a good point.. when Trump talks to the FBI guys then all of a sudden he is tampering with an investigation or some bullshit.. when he doesn't talk to them, he is portrayed as weak. What option does he have?

There must be something he can do beyond tweets. Who TF the FBI works for? Where does the buck stop? :confused:

[Swordsmyth]

That's a good point.. when Trump talks to the FBI guys then all of a sudden he is tampering with an investigation or some bull$#@!.. when he doesn't talk to them, he is portrayed as weak. What option does he have?
Sooner or later he or someone else will have to call out the elephant in the room and kick over the table to drive it out.

The left has destroyed the rules and we have reached the point where we need not play by them any longer, time is running out and if we don't kick over the table the ever growing elephant will collapse the house.

I had hoped that with the Syria and Afghanistan pullouts and the shutdown that Trump was finally ready to DO SOMETHING but I find myself back here:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WbRyU8uuNk

Trump has until the 2020 election to get off of Twitter and DO SOMETHING.

TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

[kahless]

That's a good point.. when Trump talks to the FBI guys then all of a sudden he is tampering with an investigation or some bullshit.. when he doesn't talk to them, he is portrayed as weak. What option does he have?

Maybe to stop caring about people that are going to bash him no matter what he does and do the damn job we elected him to do. Grow a backbone. Even GWB had enough of a backbone to ignore the media.

[Anti Globalist]

Trumps not gonna be happy about this.

[AuH20]

Kushner will cut loose Stone like he did Flynn.

[Brian4Liberty]

Doesn't have to be cops or FBI to nail you on a Section 1001 violation.

It can be ANY government "official" including Congress.

It appears that one can lie to GOP Congress members all day long. Jordan and Meadows say this every day.

[AuH20]

https://i.redd.it/1oqe93gpdlc21.jpg

[AuH20]

You're telling me Trump can't go RICO on these people? Go after their property you spineless twit! Kick the Bush advisors to the curb and own it. Letting your friends get rounded up one after one by this Spook Network isn't a noble way to go through life.

[Swordsmyth]

A former member of the U.S. Foreign Counter Intelligence community explains how the Roger Stone indictment demonstrates evidence of FBI surveillance of the Trump campaign, which could prove illegal evidence-gathering procedures in the Stone case.
Explained:
“The indictment of Roger Stone may help explain the insurance policy that Peter Strzok was talking to Lisa Page about in August of 2016. In the indictment, on page 17 section 35 titled “STONE’s False and Misleading Testimony About Communications with the Trump Campaign“, there is a very curious admission. It talks about insider knowledge of numerous communications in the Trump Campaign.
“In truth and in fact, and as described above, STONE spoke to multiple individuals involved in the Trump Campaign….“ and “a. On multiple occasions, STONE told senior Trump Campaign officials…“.


This is important because it highlights the question, did the FBI or CIA use Stefan Halper or Joseph Mifsud to hack the Trump Campaign’s emails? Stefan Halper, who is widely reported by most news organizations as a spy/source for the CIA/FBI, emailed Carter Page, George Papadopoulus and Sam Clovis of the Trump Campaign. Sam Clovis even reported to Tucker Carlson in May of 2018 that he received emails from Stefan Halper with attachments in 2016. The indictment of Papadopoulus references numerous communications with the professor. Joseph Mifsud has been reported as the professor and as a possible British spy. Did these email communications have spy software attached and did Peter strzok’s August 1st 2016 trip to London involve him passing anything to Halper?”

More at: https://bigleaguepolitics.com/intel-sources-roger-stone-indictment-shows-evidence-of-fbi-hack-of-trump-campaign/

[fcreature]

Trump has until the 2020 election to get off of Twitter and DO SOMETHING.

TIME IS RUNNING OUT.

He doesn't care. All he seems to care about is the economy. He thinks it will save him. Maybe it will, maybe not. It won't save the country though. Like I keep saying - Trump does not care about the most important issue of our day. Essentially everything he does that is good for our economy can be undone by the next president. Most of it is via executive action. He is allowing a destructive, disgusting precedent to be set by the corruption in the DOJ & FBI, which not dealt with appropriately, will fester into violence and/or secession.

Trump could have another Special Counsel appointed... tit for tat.

Trump could fire Wray/Rosenstein/Mueller.

Trump could lay off the entire FBI & DOJ, disband it all.

Trump could ignore the 9th circuit.

Trump could issue pardons.

Trump could declassify all the documents.

... yet he does nothing.

[Swordsmyth]

He doesn't care. All he seems to care about is the economy. He thinks it will save him. Maybe it will, maybe not. It won't save the country though. Like I keep saying - Trump does not care about the most important issue of our day. Essentially everything he does that is good for our economy can be undone by the next president. Most of it is via executive action. He is allowing a destructive, disgusting precedent to be set by the corruption in the DOJ & FBI, which not dealt with appropriately, will fester into violence and/or secession.

Trump could have another Special Counsel appointed... tit for tat.

Trump could fire Wray/Rosenstein/Mueller.

Trump could lay off the entire FBI & DOJ, disband it all.

Trump could ignore the 9th circuit.

Trump could issue pardons.

Trump could declassify all the documents.

... yet he does nothing.
It is my hope that he will do some or all of that before the 2020 election but he can't wait much longer.

[timosman]

It is my hope that he will do some or all of that before the 2020 election but he can't wait much longer.

Dude is surrounded by vultures waiting for him to drop dead. :cool:

[kona]

It is my hope that he will do some or all of that before the 2020 election but he can't wait much longer.
If he doesn't do all (and more), he's dead.

[The Rebel Poet]

Just when you think you can't be more disgusted with our country, this drops.

Roger Stone is a patriot's patriot who will end up in jail or dead before lying to appease Mueller. I HATE that this has happened to Roger, but there is no one better to handle persecution than this man. I am praying for Roger and his family.

Trump, who rarely defends his supporters, better get off the bench. If Trump doesn't fight for one of his best friends, who on Earth will he ever fight for?
What has come of this place (RPF)? Pop quiz: Who is Roger stone's favorite president? Bonus question: What were the political positions of Donald Trump when Stone first decided Trump should be POTUS?

[timosman]

What has come of this place (RPF)? Pop quiz: Who is Roger stone's favorite president? Bonus question: What were the political positions of Donald Trump when Stone first decided Trump should be POTUS?

Who framed Roger Rabbit?

https://trackingmeroz.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/roger-stone-and-alex-jones.jpg

What if this is his trophy tattoo? Kinda like To Serve Man in Twilight Zone. :D

[The Rebel Poet]

Who framed Roger Rabbit?

https://trackingmeroz.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/roger-stone-and-alex-jones.jpg

What if this is his trophy tattoo? Kinda like To Serve Man in Twilight Zone. :D
You guessed it! +rep

[CaptUSA]

Oh, he'll get off. I seen that Roger Stone get outta tighter sitchiations.

https://thechive.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/rip-roger-moore-best-james-bond-quotes-0.jpg?quality=85&strip=info&w=600

[timosman]

Oh, he'll get off. I seen that Roger Stone get outta tighter sitchiations.

Not with his balls in an anvil. :D

[CaptUSA]

Not with his balls in an anvil. :D

Oh sure. This guy's got a gadget for everything!

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2012/4/12/1334231776479/Roger-Moore-as-Bond-in-Th-008.jpg?width=300&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&



ETA: Ooops... Looks like I'm not allowed to post pictures no more. lol. Musta made a mod mad. :D

[enhanced_deficit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDrulTuG50U

Michael Cohen Would Take a Bullet for Donald TrumpIn advance of his congressional testimony, Trump’s personal lawyer wants the world to know that his loyalty to the president is deep and unwavering, and then some. “I’d never walk away,” he says.

September 6, 2017 4:04 pm

[timosman]

Michael Cohen Would Take a Bullet for Donald TrumpIn advance of his congressional testimony, Trump’s personal lawyer wants the world to know that his loyalty to the president is deep and unwavering, and then some. “I’d never walk away,” he says.

September 6, 2017 4:04 pm

These open loyalty declarations sound very concerning to me. Seems like somebody is double playing. :cool:

[goldenequity]

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https://youtu.be/KTJqYyAJ_Yc

[A Son of Liberty]

That's a good point.. when Trump talks to the FBI guys then all of a sudden he is tampering with an investigation or some bull$#@!.. when he doesn't talk to them, he is portrayed as weak. What option does he have?

It's almost like he's not who you thought he was...


If Trump doesn't fight for one of his best friends, who on Earth will he ever fight for?

Trump, of course.

It's almost like he's not who you thought he was...


We are on the slippery slope to civil war.

We agree on that.

My concern is that when the folks who thought Trump was one thing realize he's not that at all, all of that rage they had will bubble up and...


You're telling me Trump can't go RICO on these people? Go after their property you spineless twit! Kick the Bush advisors to the curb and own it. Letting your friends get rounded up one after one by this Spook Network isn't a noble way to go through life.

It's almost like he's not who you thought he was...


These open loyalty declarations sound very concerning to me. Seems like somebody is double playing. :cool:

Nobody is double playing. They're scumbags, that's all. They're loyal as long as their hides aren't threatened.

[AuH20]

Everything points to what I said months ago. He's seeking protection from the Neos for protection, but they will not protect him. He'll get sheared like he did before. William Barr won't protect him either, when it will be the opposite.

Deluded Trump thinking he could whack a hornet's nest and not see through to the destruction of the hornet nest, before it gradually stung him to death. He needs to call the people and unleash hell. It's not even that he's a great guy that is entitled to the defense of others, but many of us have a score to settle. Ruby Ridge, WACO, Oklahoma City, 911. I'd say the ledger is pretty thick by my estimation.

[AuH20]

Stop tweeting and pick up the phone.

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[A Son of Liberty]

Stop tweeting and pick up the phone.

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Oh man... it just hit me! Trump is nothing more than a keyboard Commando... in CHIEF!

[Warlord]

I agree with AUH, Trump needs to take action or is he scared of the deep state?

[AuH20]

I agree with AUH, Trump needs to take action or is he scared of the deep state?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519224-CIA-Analyst-McGovern-Trump-is-Deathly-Afraid-of-the-Deep-State&highlight=McGovern

My post:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519224-CIA-Analyst-McGovern-Trump-is-Deathly-Afraid-of-the-Deep-State&p=6616944&viewfull=1#post6616944

[Warlord]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519224-CIA-Analyst-McGovern-Trump-is-Deathly-Afraid-of-the-Deep-State&highlight=McGovern

My post:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?519224-CIA-Analyst-McGovern-Trump-is-Deathly-Afraid-of-the-Deep-State&p=6616944&viewfull=1#post6616944

sh!t AUH, they have him by the balls.

[AuH20]

sh!t AUH, they have him by the balls.

Pretty much. The long odds were him growing into the role. We tried. The only good thing to come from this entire endeavor is that we got our enemy to remove their mask. They are ultimately screwed. We lured them out with the bombastic Trump and they took the bait. We have a positive identification on every scum sucking agent and beneficiary of the empire. Trump unknowingly revealed everything we've been preaching for 30 years.

[acptulsa]

Lord Jesus, are they really taking credit for finding out the things the libertarians told them, and are they really saying Trump has admitted anything which wasn't already common knowledge?

Give me strength...

The man has spent two years in a position to release the security can tapes from the Alexandria Citgo on 9/11/01. And what did we get? The JFK files re-buried.

Revealed. My ass. Reburied.

[timosman]

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https://www.speaker.gov/newsroom/12519-4/


JANUARY 26, 2019

Washington, D.C. – Speaker Nancy Pelosi issued this statement after Special Counsel Mueller released a seven-count indictment of top Trump campaign advisor Roger Stone, for lying to Congress, witness tampering, and obstruction:

“The indictment of Roger Stone makes clear that there was a deliberate, coordinated attempt by top Trump campaign officials to influence the 2016 election and subvert the will of the American people. It is staggering that the President has chosen to surround himself with people who violated the integrity of our democracy and lied to the FBI and Congress about it.

“In the face of 37 indictments, the President’s continued actions to undermine the Special Counsel investigation raise the questions: what does Putin have on the President, politically, personally or financially? Why has the Trump Administration continued to discuss pulling the U.S. out of NATO, which would be a massive victory for Putin?

“Lying to Congress and witness tampering constitute grave crimes. All who commit these illegal acts should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. We cannot allow any effort to intimidate witnesses or prevent them from appearing before Congress.

“The Special Counsel investigation is working, and the House will continue to exercise our constitutional oversight responsibility and ensure that the Special Counsel investigation can continue free from interference from the White House.”

[Schifference]

Nancy is correct when she says, “Lying to Congress and witness tampering constitute grave crimes. All who commit these illegal acts should be held accountable to the fullest extent of the law. We cannot allow any effort to intimidate witnesses or prevent them from appearing before Congress.

We are in the process of cleaning and organizing our house. Is makes sense to me that we start with obvious things to move and organize. Sorting the tiny particles in the junk drawer can be done any time in the future. Take care of obvious big blatant issues first. We all know the list of people that are on the record and proven to have committed the aforementioned. What did the democrats do in their attempt to win the presidency in 2016?

[TheCount]

They got his wingman.

Trump is going to be pissed..



Trump, who rarely defends his supporters, better get off the bench. If Trump doesn't fight for one of his best friends, who on Earth will he ever fight for?



Trump Says Stone Didn’t Work for Him ‘Anywhere Near Election’ (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-27/trump-says-stone-didn-t-work-for-him-anywhere-near-election)



Halfway into the memory hole. Just a little bit more...

[timosman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnfBWkl1bjo

[Warlord]

Trump has conceded to the deep state, he's a lame duck.

[timosman]

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/427138-roger-stone-calls-indictment-thin-as-p-on-a-rock


01/27/19

Roger Stone, the longtime confidant of President Trump who was arrested as part of special counsel Robert Mueller's Russia probe, said Sunday that the indictment against him is "thin as piss on a rock" and pledged to "fight for my life."

“In view of the fact that I expect to be acquitted and vindicated and that my attorneys … believe that this indictment is thin as piss on a rock, I’m prepared to fight for my life," Stone said on ABC's "This Week" when asked if he's prepared to spend the rest of his life in prison.

Stone was indicted Friday on seven counts in Mueller's probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election. He is charged with one count of obstruction of an official proceeding, five counts of false statements and a count of witness tampering.

The indictment also states that a top Trump campaign official was instructed to contact Stone to get information about the WikiLeaks hacks of Democratic emails ahead of the 2016 election.

Stone, who in 2016 hinted on Twitter and in public that he had advance knowledge of the WikiLeaks email dumps, on Sunday denied any wrongdoing.

He said he never received "any stolen or hacked material" and that he only took publicly available information and tried "to get it as much attention as possible."

"All I did was take publicly available information and try to hype it to get it as much attention as possible because I had a tip that the information was politically significant and that it would come in October," he said on "This Week."

Stone also indicated that he may be willing to testify in Mueller's probe, saying that he would need to confer with his attorneys but that he would "certainly testify honestly."

"If there’s wrongdoing by other people on the campaign that I know about, which I know of none, but if there is, I would certainly testify honestly. I’d also testify honestly about any other matter, including any communications with the president," Stone said.

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Following a court appearance last Friday, Stone pledged not to testify against Trump.




Trump ally Roger Stone on Sunday defiantly said that special counsel Robert Mueller’s charges against him would fail because the indictment is a thin as “piss on a rock.”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hofz4WJ7G9A

[AZJoe]

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[AuH20]

Trump has conceded to the deep state, he's a lame duck.

Yep. He's been successfully herded. Fake Russian witch hunt drives him into the willing arms of the Neos/Israelis. He'll never stray since he's worried about protection from the other side of the criminal enterprise. He deserves the two timing that's coming.

It's amusing to watch Trump attempt to make deals with the literal devil. I guess he never read Faust?

[r3volution 3.0]

Fuck the CREEP; fuck that soulless mercenary bagman.

Burn

[AZJoe]

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50886387_2476630485711846_2818736609153777664_n.jp g?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=2d094031bde6733ae0d67c87003b9d04&oe=5CFC73C8

[donnay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JolfYLx09Qg

[AZJoe]

Well isn't this interesting. From LRC (https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/roger-stone-pleads-not-guilty/)-

"the CNN “reporter” who was tipped off about the 6 AM Gestapo/Stasi-style arrest of Stone is reportedly a “former” FBI employee and associate of Robert Mueller"

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.catholicvote.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2F3rjap2.jpg&f=1

[Superfluous Man]

Well isn't this interesting. From LRC (https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/roger-stone-pleads-not-guilty/)-

"the CNN “reporter” who was tipped off about the 6 AM Gestapo/Stasi-style arrest of Stone is reportedly a “former” FBI employee and associate of Robert Mueller"

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.catholicvote.org%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F05%2F3rjap2.jpg&f=1

I haven't kept up. Is CNN admitting now that they were tipped off after all?

[Stratovarious]

I haven't kept up. Is CNN admitting now that they were tipped off after all?
I think 'tipped off' is a mild/too kind assessment , I believe it was more thoroughly planned.

[Stratovarious]

Hillary just a couple days ago stated Stone's arrest to be part of her reasoning behind
considering a go at the 2020 pres election.
Arrest Hillary for her crimes.

[AZJoe]

I haven't kept up. Is CNN admitting now that they were tipped off after all?

The CNN reported who just "gut instinct" happened to show up [was tipped off] at the right time and place to film the raid also happens to be former FBI employee and associate of Mueller; but of course he wasn't "tipped off". It's just all miraculous coincidence. Isn't that special?

[timosman]

The CNN reported who just "gut instinct" happened to show up [was tipped off] at the right time and place to film the raid also happens to be former FBI employee and associate of Mueller; but of course he wasn't "tipped off". It's just all miraculous coincidence. Isn't that special?

It is, especially given how their gut instinct was wrong for the last few years.:tears:

[shakey1]

Hillary just a couple days ago stated Stone's arrest to be part of her reasoning behind
considering a go at the 2020 pres election.
Arrest Hillary for her crimes.

Arrest the teflon t w a t?... not gonna happen.

[Stratovarious]

Arrest the teflon t w a t?... not gonna happen.
I know , that's fact. I just whine out loud rhetorically.
-
I've written this several thousand times by now I'm sure; Hillary will never see the inside
of a Prison Cell.
Sometimes I add; I would love to be wrong, which is also fact.
:frog:
Justice is never applied to the crooks at the top, not in America, the land of the cuckd' .

[TheCount]

Trump has conceded to the deep state, he's a lame duck.

Yep. He's been successfully herded. Fake Russian witch hunt drives him into the willing arms of the Neos/Israelis. He'll never stray since he's worried about protection from the other side of the criminal enterprise. He deserves the two timing that's coming.

It's amusing to watch Trump attempt to make deals with the literal devil. I guess he never read Faust?

I fail to see how this is any different from his behavior up until this point. You are acting like he has changed; the only thing that has changed is that you've run out of excuses for him.

Trump was never the person that you imagined him to be.

[AZJoe]

John Whitehead - Rutherford Institute (https://www.rutherford.org) Comments on Stone Raid (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2019/01/john-w-whitehead/jackboots-in-the-morning-no-one-is-spared-from-this-american-nightmare/):

Whatever dangerous practices you allow the government to carry out now—whether it’s in the name of national security or protecting America’s borders or making America great again—rest assured, these same practices can and will be used against you when the government decides to set its sights on you. …

All of the excessive, abusive tactics employed by the government today—warrantless surveillance, stop and frisk searches, SWAT team raids, roadside strip searches, asset forfeiture schemes, private prisons, indefinite detention, militarized police, etc.—will eventually be meted out on the general populace. …

Take Roger Stone (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2019/01/25/fbi-open-door-tactics-behind-armed-agents-roger-stones-home/) … for example. … this guy is not the kingpin of a violent mob or drug-laundering scheme. He’s been charged with a political crime. So what does the FBI do? They send 29 heavily armed agents in 17 vehicles to carry out a SWAT-style raid (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/01/28/roger-stone-claimed-more-force-was-used-him-than-bin-laden-el-chapo-raids-nope/) on Stone’s Florida home just before dawn on Jan. 25, 2019. … “ 29 agents ‘pounded on the door,’ pointed automatic weapons at him and ‘terrorized’ his wife and dogs (https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/01/26/fbis-roger-stone-raid-sends-chilling-message/). Stone was taken away in handcuffs … All the charges have been related to either lying or tax evasion, with no evidence of so-called ‘collusion’ with Russia emerging to date.”

while Tucker Carlson and Chris Christie and other Trump apologists appear shocked … this is nothing new. … this is blowback … short-sighted use of immoral, illegal and unconstitutional tactics become dangerous weapons turned against the American people. …

SWAT teams routinely invade homes, break down doors, kill family pets (they always shoot the dogs first (https://www.rutherford.org/publications_resources/john_whiteheads_commentary/programmed_to_kill_the_growing_epidemic_of_cops_sh ooting_dogs)), damage furnishings, terrorize families, and wound or kill those unlucky enough to be present during a raid. … SWAT team mistakenly raided the mayor’s home (https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073003299.html?sid=ST2010091302597) … shot Payton [dog] four times. Chase [dog] was shot twice (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/07/19/dogs-in-a-deadly-crossfire.html), … They thought we were drug dealers, and we were treated as such. … recalls (https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073003299.html?sid=ST2010091302597) Mayor … SWAT teams have been employed to address an astonishingly trivial array of so-called criminal activity or mere community nuisances: angry dogs, domestic disputes (http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf), improper paperwork filed by an orchid farmer (https://reason.com/blog/2009/10/05/federal-swat-raid-over-orchids), and misdemeanor marijuana possession (https://reason.com/blog/2010/05/05/video-of-swat-raid-on-missouri), … SWAT teams are even employed, in full armament, to perform routine patrols (http://www.cato.org/pubs/briefs/bp50.pdf). …
these raids are becoming increasingly common and widespread …

SWAT teams… have now become intrinsic parts of federal and local law enforcement operations, thanks in large part to substantial federal assistance and the Pentagon’s 1033 military surplus recycling program … this is the same program that President Trump breathed new life into back in 2017 (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/policing/spotlight/2017/08/31/trump-military-swat-police-community-raid-sessions/614306001/). …

the role of paramilitary forces has expanded to … targeting nonviolent suspects, the mere presence of SWAT units has actually injected a level of danger and violence … that was not present …

In 1980, there were roughly 3,000 SWAT team-style raids in the US. Incredibly, that number has since grown to more than 80,000 SWAT team raids per year (https://theweek.com/articles/531458/troubling-rise-swat-teams). … militarized SWAT teams are assigned to carry out routine law enforcement tasks. … such as serving a search warrant, with some SWAT teams being sent out as much as five times a day.

In the state of Maryland alone, 92 percent of 8200 SWAT missions were used to execute search or arrest warrants (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/police-militarization-fails-to-protect-officers-and-targets-black-communities-study-finds). Police in both Baltimore and Dallas have used SWAT teams to bust up poker games (https://www.economist.com/united-states/2014/03/20/cops-or-soldiers). A Connecticut SWAT team swarmed a bar (https://www.csoonline.com/article/2228116/microsoft-subnet/swat-team-swarms-bar--demands-to-see-alcohol-permit.html) suspected of serving alcohol to underage individuals. In Arizona, a SWAT team was used to break up an alleged cockfighting ring (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1369596/SWAT-team-armoured-vehicles-Steven-Segal-Arizona-cockfighting-raid.html). An Atlanta SWAT team raided a music studio (https://www.wired.com/2007/01/atlanta-swat-te/), allegedly out of a concern that it might have been involved in illegal music piracy. A Minnesota SWAT team raided the wrong house in the middle of the night, handcuffed the three young children, held the mother on the floor at gunpoint, shot the family dog, and then “forced the handcuffed children to sit next to the carcass of their dead pet and bloody pet for more than an hour (https://reason.com/blog/2012/08/10/st-paul-cops-shoot-dog-in-wrong-door-rai/print)” … A California SWAT team drove an armored Lenco Bearcat into Roger Serrato’s yard (http://www.montereyherald.com/article/zz/20130819/NEWS/130818031), surrounded his home with paramilitary troops wearing face masks, threw a fire-starting flashbang grenade into the house … held him at bay with rifles. Serrato died of asphyxiation from being trapped in the flame-filled house. Incredibly, the father of four had done nothing wrong. The SWAT team had misidentified him …
And then there was the police officer who tripped and “accidentally” shot and killed Eurie Stamps, an unarmed grandfather of 12 (https://patch.com/massachusetts/framingham/us-appeal-court-framingham-swat-officer-who-killed-eurie-stamps-not-immune-liability), … Equally outrageous was the four-hour SWAT team raid on a California high school (https://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/05/29/dana-hills-high-locked-down-after-shotgun-case-is-found-in-parking-lot/), … students were … forced to urinate in overturned desks … masked gunmen searching for possible weapons that were never found.

These incidents are just the tip of the iceberg. What we are witnessing is an inversion of the police-civilian relationship. … This is what happens when paramilitary forces are used to conduct ordinary policing operations … general incompetence, collateral damage (fatalities, property damage, etc.) and botched raids tend to go hand in hand with an overuse of paramilitary forces. …

officers misread the address on the warrant. … In others, they simply barge into the wrong house or even the wrong building.

In … the Department of Education raid on Anthony Wright (https://reason.com/blog/2011/06/08/no-really-swat-team-raids-hous)’s home), police conduct a search of a building where the suspect no longer resides. … why the Education Department needs a SWAT team, … Among those federal agencies laying claim to their own law enforcement divisions are the State Department, Department of Education (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2013/01/17/why-u-s-education-department-has-27-12-gauge-shotguns/), Department of Energy, U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the National Park Service, to name just a few (http://www.cato.org/pubs/wtpapers/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf). … federal agencies having nothing whatsoever to do with national defense now see the need for their own paramilitary units.

SWAT teams have even on occasion conducted multiple, sequential raids on wrong addresses or executed search warrants despite the fact that the suspect is already in police custody. … raided homes on the basis of mistaking the presence or scent of legal substances … tomatoes, sunflowers, fish, elderberry bushes, kenaf plants, hibiscus, and ragweed. …

botched SWAT team raids have resulted in one tragedy after another … with little consequences for law enforcement. Unfortunately, judges tend to afford extreme levels of deference to police officers … homeowners who mistake officers for robbers can be sentenced for assault or murder …

Radley Balko shows in his in-depth study of police militarization (https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/8gddyg/radley-balko-on-the-militarization-of-americas-police-force), the shock-and-awe tactics … Drug warrants, for instance, are typically served by paramilitary units late at night or shortly before dawn. … especially in cases involving mistaken identities or wrong addresses—a raid can appear to be nothing less than a violent home invasion, ... The natural reaction would be to engage in self-defense. Yet such a defensive reaction … will spur officers to employ lethal force. That’s exactly what happened to Jose Guerena (https://abcnews.go.com/US/tucson-swat-team-defends-shooting-iraq-marine-veteran/story?id=13640112), the young ex-Marine who was killed after a SWAT team kicked open the door of his Arizona home .. and opened fire… 26 years old and the father of two young children, grabbed a gun in response to the forced invasion but never fired. … the safety was still on … he was killed… fired upon 71 times. Guerena had no prior criminal record, and the police found nothing illegal in his home.

Aiyana Jones is (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2010/11/aiyana-stanley-jones-detroit) dead because of a SWAT raid gone awry. … 7-year-old was killed after a Detroit SWAT team—searching for a suspect—launched a flash-bang grenade into her family’s apartment, broke through the door and opened fire, hitting the little girl … The cops weren’t even in the right apartment. … a Georgia SWAT team launched a flash-bang grenade into the house in which Baby Bou Bou, his three sisters and his parents were staying. The grenade landed in the 2-year-old’s crib (http://www.salon.com/2014/06/24/a_swat_team_blew_a_hole_in_my_2_year_old_son/), burning a hole in his chest … Alberto Sepulveda, 11, died from one “accidental” shotgun round to the back (http://www.theppsc.org/Archives/Firearms-Safety/swat_officer_kills_boy.htm) after a SWAT team raided his parents’ home. …

SWAT teams are granted “no-knock” warrants at high rates such that the warrants themselves are rendered practically meaningless. … U.S. Supreme Court rulings that have essentially done away with the need for a “no-knock” warrant altogether (https://www.vox.com/2014/10/29/7083371/swat-no-knock-raids-police-killed-civilians-dangerous-work-drugs), …

… we are now grappling with a power-hungry police state at the federal level, the militarization of domestic American law enforcement is largely the result of the militarization of local police forces, which are increasingly militaristic in their uniforms, weaponry, language, training, and tactics and have come to rely on SWAT teams in matters that once could have been satisfactorily performed by traditional civilian officers. …

American police forces were never supposed to be a branch of the military, nor were they meant to be private security forces for the reigning political faction. … the police now not only look like the military … but they function like them, as well. … no more do we have a civilian force of peace officers entrusted with serving and protecting the American people. Instead, today’s militarized law enforcement officials have shifted their allegiance from the citizenry to the state …

As journalist Herman Schwartz observed, “The Fourth Amendment was designed to stand between us and arbitrary governmental authority. For all practical purposes, that shield has been shattered (https://www.thenation.com/article/how-supreme-court-came-embrace-strip-searches-trivial-offenses/) “ … the end product of the government—federal, local and state—and law enforcement agencies having merged, have become a “standing” or permanent army, composed of full-time professional soldiers who do not disband. … these permanent armies are exactly what those who drafted the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights feared as tools used by despotic governments …

to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. … we the citizenry have become the nails … “authorities have chosen to respond to even innocent situations as if they were in a warzone (https://truthout.org/articles/five-unnecessary-swat-team-raids-gone-terribly-wrong/).”

A study by a political scientist at Princeton University concludes that militarizing police and SWAT teams “provide no detectable benefits in terms of officer safety or violent crime reduction (http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2018/08/14/1805161115).” … “police militarization neither reduces rates of violent crime nor changes the number of officers assaulted or killed (https://www.pbs.org/newshour/science/police-militarization-fails-to-protect-officers-and-targets-black-communities-study-finds).” … warrior cops aren’t making us or themselves any safer (https://massprivatei.blogspot.com/2018/08/study-police-militarization-targets.html). … Battlefield America: The War on the American People (https://www.amazon.com/Battlefield-America-War-American-People/dp/1590793099/ref=asap_bc?ie=UTF8), …

[AZJoe]

Good Judge Napolitano (https://insider.foxnews.com/2019/01/29/judge-napolitano-roger-stone-likely-lot-trouble-after-arrest-indictment) -

"This is jackboots in the morning. This is an American nightmare that they would arrest somebody like this," ... Stone is not charged with violent crimes, has no criminal past and is not a flight risk. ... they went after Stone with this kind of "firepower" to intimidate him and to send a message to the public ... “The fact that he has no bail, he was freed on his own signature and they promise that if he didn’t return the bail would be $250,000 — tells you what the judge thinks of the case,”

[AZJoe]

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[AuH20]

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[enhanced_deficit]

If he's as loyal to MAGA as he's to Nixon, nothing to worry about.

[Swordsmyth]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1093340527565647873
1093340527565647873

[AuH20]

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[AZJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EfKtFw_OlE

[Anti Globalist]

Don't see Stone being put in prison.

[TheCount]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1093340527565647873
1093340527565647873

Whoever wrote this article is either an idiot or, more likely, intentionally deceiving their readers. They're conflating two entirely separate things.

If your phone is encrypted, apple cannot get into your phone. However, they can get into anything you store on their servers. That's why, whenever you're given the option to back up your phone or data from any app on a cloud drive, the best choice is to choose no. This is especially true for encrypted messaging like whatsapp, telegram, etc.

Apple did give access to the San Bernadino shooters' icloud accounts, but could not get into their devices.

[kona]

Don't see Stone being put in prison.
Trump seems fine with letting Manafort hang AND his lifelong friend Roger. I'm not sure if he could do anything, but the silence is disappointing. Trump doesn't defend many civilians, certainly not from censorship. And if he doesn't defend Roger, who besides his kin does he care to defend?

[Schifference]

Trump seems fine with letting Manafort hang AND his lifelong friend Roger. I'm not sure if he could do anything, but the silence is disappointing. Trump doesn't defend many civilians, certainly not from censorship. And if he doesn't defend Roger, who besides his kin does he care to defend?

Trump is and has been under constant assault since before taking office. I do not know enough about the ongoings of POTUS. Supposedly he is planning on running again in 2020. Every person has secrets and scandals. It takes a different type of person to deal with what Trump deals with daily and not quit. I don't think any president has ever been treated, degraded, assaulted, conspired against..... as much as Trump. Liberals have gone all out crazy and a large percentage of the masses support crazy. Roger Stone seems like a confident man. If he can be an unshaken Nixon supporter he can weather this storm with unwavering support for Trump.

[dannno]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkjYdMfyRCU

[Schifference]

Pretty amazing how he rolls. If I or many people needed to raise money we would work. We would build or repair something. We would develop something that had value and sell it. Roger is like a preacher. He sells his words for money. 38 million people have contributed. Hmm. @ $1 each that is $38,000,000. He has talent and the ability to appeal to peoples heartstrings. I could never raise enough money to pay for lawyers. Lawyers like Stone has would never defend a poor person.

[timosman]

Pretty amazing how he rolls. If I or many people needed to raise money we would work. We would build or repair something. We would develop something that had value and sell it. Roger is like a preacher. He sells his words for money. 38 million people have contributed. Hmm. @ $1 each that is $38,000,000. He has talent and the ability to appeal to peoples heartstrings. I could never raise enough money to pay for lawyers. Lawyers like Stone has would never defend a poor person.

I think he also has a tendency to inflate numbers a bit. :D

[Working Poor]

Trump seems fine with letting Manafort hang AND his lifelong friend Roger. I'm not sure if he could do anything, but the silence is disappointing. Trump doesn't defend many civilians, certainly not from censorship. And if he doesn't defend Roger, who besides his kin does he care to defend?
We do not really know what communication Trump has had with Stone and Manafort so we do not know for sure that Trump is not going to help them.

[Superfluous Man]

Pretty amazing how he rolls. If I or many people needed to raise money we would work. We would build or repair something. We would develop something that had value and sell it. Roger is like a preacher. He sells his words for money. 38 million people have contributed. Hmm. @ $1 each that is $38,000,000. He has talent and the ability to appeal to peoples heartstrings. I could never raise enough money to pay for lawyers. Lawyers like Stone has would never defend a poor person.

In a way, what he's doing is not that different from what you say you or many others would do.

Those who contribute to his cause are doing it voluntarily with their own money, because they see the result they are hoping to come from the use of this money to be something of value to them. And part of that is a product they enjoy, which is Stone's rhetoric.

[kona]

Pretty amazing how he rolls. If I or many people needed to raise money we would work. We would build or repair something. We would develop something that had value and sell it. Roger is like a preacher. He sells his words for money. 38 million people have contributed. Hmm. @ $1 each that is $38,000,000. He has talent and the ability to appeal to peoples heartstrings. I could never raise enough money to pay for lawyers. Lawyers like Stone has would never defend a poor person.
Sadly, in this case I don't think 38 million will matter.

Roger has the FU attitude, you cannot break him, he will never roll over, and he'll never break his code. Whatever one thinks of him, that is l one of the most admirable qualities, especially at his age and having to face the ultimate opponent.

[Superfluous Man]

Sadly, in this case I don't think 38 million will matter.

Roger has the FU attitude, you cannot break him, he will never roll over, and he'll never break his code. Whatever one thinks of him, that is l one of the most admirable qualities, especially at his age and having to face the ultimate opponent.

Am I right that your source for saying that Roger Stone is like that is Roger Stone claiming that he is?

[dannno]

I'm guessing he has had 38,000 donors and he misspoke.

[kona]

Am I right that your source for saying that Roger Stone is like that is Roger Stone claiming that he is?
You are not. Those are my words...though I have no doubt Roger would say something similar.

[Schifference]

If there is one person with a code of stone it is Roger.