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Warlord
01-24-2019, 09:16 AM
Fox News host Tucker Carlson declared Wednesday night that "identity politics will destroy this country faster than a foreign invasion."

Carlson made the comments during a monologue on his program that focused on the media firestorm surrounding students from Covington Catholic High School in Kentucky and Native American activist Nathan Phillips.

The story has received ample coverage, particularly on cable news, with President Trump using initial press coverage of the filmed exchange in front of the Lincoln Memorial last week to bash "fake news."

A viral video clip appeared to show a student wearing Trump's "Make America Great Again" cap, later identified as Nick Sandmann, in some kind of confrontation with Phillips, with dozens of boys seemingly mocking the activist while he continued to beat a drum and sing.

Subsequent videos suggested the initial clip was selectively edited and shown out of context, however, and that the meeting was hardly confrontational, leading to heavy criticism of media outlets for running with the story based on the original video.


More:
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/426747-tucker-carlson-identity-politics-will-destroy-this-country-faster-than-a

Perhaps Zippy will take this into consideration? I doubt it...

Anti Federalist
01-24-2019, 09:38 AM
destroy this country

Probably the best course of action at this point.

Based on what I'm seeing, roughly half the people in this country are bugshit insane, and I don't want them within a thousand miles of me.

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 09:44 AM
Probably the best course of action at this point.

Based on what I'm seeing, roughly half the people in this country are bug$#@! insane, and I don't want them within a thousand miles of me.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. They aren't half the country. They just seem that way because the MSM refuses to point their cameras and microphones at anyone who isn't bug$#!+ insane.

Stratovarious
01-24-2019, 09:46 AM
''Subsequent videos suggested the initial clip was selectively edited and shown out of context, however, and that the meeting was hardly confrontational, leading to heavy criticism of media outlets for running with the story based on the original video. ''
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It is very troubling when I see journalists or commentators using a word
like this when they should use; 'indicated' .

Anti Federalist
01-24-2019, 09:49 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. They aren't half the country. They just seem that way because the MSM refuses to point their cameras and microphones at anyone who isn't bug$#!+ insane.

Mrs AF and I argue this point constantly.

She is of your way of thinking.

I say you both are wrong and I base that on vote tallies, and credible polling data.

In light of say 56% in favor of Medicare for all and a Uni-party super-dooper progressive majority in California, convince me otherwise.

specsaregood
01-24-2019, 09:53 AM
Mrs AF and I argue this point constantly.

She is of your way of thinking.

I say you both are wrong and I base that on vote tallies, and credible polling data.

In light of say 56% in favor of Medicare for all and a Uni-party super-dooper progressive majority in California, convince me otherwise.

I used to be an optimist, now I'm in agreement with you. When people finally get hungry, all hell is going to break loose, they wont start working all of a sudden.

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 10:00 AM
Mrs AF and I argue this point constantly.

She is of your way of thinking.

I say you both are wrong and I base that on vote tallies, and credible polling data.

In light of say 56% in favor of Medicare for all and a Uni-party super-dooper progressive majority in California, convince me otherwise.

Laws ostensibly protecting Medicare broke the health industry, and Medicare is being sold as the cure in a purely Hegelian manner. A few polls cooked up to help make that sale is no indication that half the nation has suddenly turned into race rioters.

And the Land of Fruits and Nuts is not the nation.

phill4paul
01-24-2019, 10:15 AM
Mrs AF and I argue this point constantly.

She is of your way of thinking.

I say you both are wrong and I base that on vote tallies, and credible polling data.

In light of say 56% in favor of Medicare for all and a Uni-party super-dooper progressive majority in California, convince me otherwise.

I'm with you on this and it has nothing to do with polling data except my own. There is a reason why friends I have numbered in the dozens a decade ago have shrunken to less than a handful and I won't have anything to do with them. Individuals that at one point I could at least reason with and find some modicum of common when Ron Paul first ran have now become full on socialists. The vehemence they throw against me now, in the light of current events, succinctly betrays their core beliefs. Or perhaps they merely hid them. One particular ex-friend, who called for a banning of MAGA hats for those under 18, actually condemned me for a "simpleton redneck." Unable to understand politics, because of my lack of education. You see in the time since Ron Paul first ran he has received his PhD. in English Literature. This of course makes him a man of higher learning. And, as he called me, not a "simpleton redneck." Of course the fact that we came from the same neighborhood made no difference. He rose above at workers expense. Through the course of his transformation he bragged how there was so much money in grants and tuition assistance he didn't even need a part-time job. He's now one of the elite. Bring on the new revolution. Robespierre is in full play.

donnay
01-24-2019, 10:38 AM
Laws ostensibly protecting Medicare broke the health industry, and Medicare is being sold as the cure in a purely Hegelian manner. A few polls cooked up to help make that sale is no indication that half the nation has suddenly turned into race rioters.

And the Land of Fruits and Nuts is not the nation.

Cooked numbers and the angle of the camera lenses, like how the Covington kids were set up. Let us not forget the voter fraud all over the country is real. That is how the deception works--"Just when you think you got it all figured out...you're wrong."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn60YWO218k

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 10:46 AM
Cooked numbers and the angle of the camera lenses, like how the Covington kids were set up. Let us not forget the voter fraud all over the country is real. That is how the deception works--"Just when you think you got it all figured out...you're wrong."

Absolutely.

But he is right to be concerned. Many humans are herd animals, and if the MSM can convince him the herd is headed a certain direction, they can convince quite a few sheep to head that direction.

That's why I find it important to point out that, at this point, it's just a manufactured illusion. Because if nobody does, they'll succeed in starting their stampede.

donnay
01-24-2019, 10:56 AM
Absolutely.

But he is right to be concerned. Many humans are herd animals, and if the MSM can convince him the herd is headed a certain direction, they can convince quite a few sheep to head that direction.

That's why I find it important to point out that, at this point, it's just a manufactured illusion. Because if nobody does, they'll succeed in starting their stampede.

There is always reason for concern because, just like Hollyweird makes movies that people believe is reality, they are using that art to deceive so many people into believing the lies. They want people to lose hope, without hope, people tend to give up and allow this evil to surround them and control them.

Anti Federalist
01-24-2019, 11:01 AM
I'm with you on this and it has nothing to do with polling data except my own. There is a reason why friends I have numbered in the dozens a decade ago have shrunken to less than a handful and I won't have anything to do with them. Individuals that at one point I could at least reason with and find some modicum of common when Ron Paul first ran have now become full on socialists. The vehemence they throw against me now, in the light of current events, succinctly betrays their core beliefs. Or perhaps they merely hid them. One particular ex-friend, who called for a banning of MAGA hats for those under 18, actually condemned me for a "simpleton redneck." Unable to understand politics, because of my lack of education. You see in the time since Ron Paul first ran he has received his PhD. in English Literature. This of course makes him a man of higher learning. And, as he called me, not a "simpleton redneck." Of course the fact that we came from the same neighborhood made no difference. He rose above at workers expense. Through the course of his transformation he bragged how there was so much money in grants and tuition assistance he didn't even need a part-time job. He's now one of the elite. Bring on the new revolution. Robespierre is in full play.

Exactly.

I have seen this myself.

Anti Federalist
01-24-2019, 11:05 AM
Cooked numbers and the angle of the camera lenses, like how the Covington kids were set up. Let us not forget the voter fraud all over the country is real.

Who were all those people in the twatterverse that jumped on the bandwagon to crucify those kids?

Bots?

Fake news?


That is how the deception works--"Just when you think you got it all figured out...you're wrong."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn60YWO218k

That clip cuts both ways.

What if I am the one perceiving things correctly, and you are the one that has it figured all wrong?

Anti Federalist
01-24-2019, 11:07 AM
Absolutely.

But he is right to be concerned. Many humans are herd animals, and if the MSM can convince him the herd is headed a certain direction, they can convince quite a few sheep to head that direction.

That's why I find it important to point out that, at this point, it's just a manufactured illusion. Because if nobody does, they'll succeed in starting their stampede.

All I'm saying is be prepared.

Be aware of what is coming.

If I'm wrong, and nothing happens, then everything wags along as usual.

If I'm right however, and the Jacobin mob catches us flat footed...well, game over man.

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 11:13 AM
Who were all those people in the $#@!terverse that jumped on the bandwagon to crucify those kids?

Bots?

Fake news?



That clip cuts both ways.

What if I am the one perceiving things correctly, and you are the one that has it figured all wrong?

The current population of the U.S. is estimated at 328,043,314. All those botpeople add up to, what? A hundred? A thousand? One third of one one thousandth of one percent, remarkable only in that they have cameras pointed at them?


All I'm saying is be prepared.

Be aware of what is coming.

If I'm wrong, and nothing happens, then everything wags along as usual.

If I'm right however, and the Jacobin mob catches us flat footed...well, game over man.

And the first line of defense is to show the herd that these outliers aren't really numerous enough to be worth following. Falsely inflating their numbers is aiding and abetting your enemy.

The best weapon is contemptuous laughter. Better to invest an ounce of contemptuous laughter now than to help them put us in a position of having to claim a pound of flesh later.

donnay
01-24-2019, 11:15 AM
Who were all those people in the $#@!terverse that jumped on the bandwagon to crucify those kids?

Bots?

Fake news?

All, what people? I do not understand where you are going with this?

Twitter was the only outlet, at the time, that was calling out the fake news, mind you.

Attorney Robert Barnes is now taking on the Covington kids case pro bono. People still spewing this fake news are now on notice.




That clip cuts both ways.

What I am the one perceiving things correctly, and you are the one that has it figured all wrong?

If you are perceiving things you think are correct, what if it is being perceived through deceptive practices? Does that make you right?

enhanced_deficit
01-24-2019, 11:15 AM
I identify as a Bush worshiper. I further identify as a Champion of Iraqi Freedom War. Once in a while, I also identify as a "Libertarian".

Anti Federalist
01-24-2019, 11:18 AM
And the first line of defense is to show the herd that these outliers aren't really numerous enough to be worth following. Falsely inflating their numbers is aiding and abetting your enemy.

The best weapon is contemptuous laughter.

You dismissed California as an example, but what about my home state?

The New Bolshevik mob that just swept into power will transform in two years, the most free state in the nation into just another northern state socialist shithole, politically...if they get their way.

What about NY state, which has another progressive super duper majority?

I could go on, but you see my point...freedom is not popular.

phill4paul
01-24-2019, 11:23 AM
The best weapon is contemptuous laughter.

Laughter? Hell, just something perceived as a contemptuous sneer is enough to get a doxxing and death threats.

https://amgreatness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/nicholas-sandmann__28949-copy.jpg

You need to wake the fuck up.

euphemia
01-24-2019, 11:24 AM
Probably the best course of action at this point.

Based on what I'm seeing, roughly half the people in this country are bug$#@! insane, and I don't want them within a thousand miles of me.

Even if the government folds, those people will not be going anywhere. And if they are not within a thousand miles of you, they will be just blocks from me.

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 11:28 AM
Laughter? Hell, just something perceived as a contemptuous sneer is enough to get a doxxing and death threats.

https://amgreatness.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/nicholas-sandmann__28949-copy.jpg

You need to wake the $#@! up.

My point is not that they aren't dangerous. My point is that helping the perpetrators exaggerate their numbers within earshot of the herd is aiding and abetting them.

Anyone who aids and abets their enemy is the person who needs to wake the fuck up.

It's about herd dynamics. Sometimes the only difference between a leader and an outlier, a stray, is one loud, well-timed peal of laughter. Your enemy knows this. You saw them use it against Ron Paul.

We had better use that ourselves now, before the herd gets fooled. Otherwise there actually will be hell to pay.

phill4paul
01-24-2019, 11:40 AM
My point is not that they aren't dangerous. My point is that helping the perpetrators exaggerate their numbers is aiding and abetting them.

Their legions are many. Don't fool yourself. And don't blow smoke up others arses and tell them all is good. That, for the most part, we are on the same team in the middle. There's not a middle anymore. I've just given you a real life sampling of how family and friends have taken the turn. Others such as AF have confirmed the same. If you can't feel the shift, if you haven't experienced it on a personal level, then I don't know what to tell you.

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 11:47 AM
Their legions are many. Don't fool yourself. And don't blow smoke up others arses and tell them all is good. That, for the most part, we are on the same team in the middle. There's not a middle anymore. I've just given you a real life sampling of how family and friends have taken the turn. Others such as AF have confirmed the same. If you can't feel the shift, if you haven't experienced it on a personal level, then I don't know what to tell you.

I know it's worse nearer the coasts. I know it's an important turning point.

I also know the herd did turn against the Covington kids, until the truth turned them back. Herd dynamics.

You seem to think I'm saying, don't fight. What I'm actually saying is, fight smarter now so we don't have to fight harder later.

Is it not a laughing matter? If you have ever seen an elementary school bully at work, then you know laughter is a pretty damned potent weapon.

Underestimating your enemy is bad. Sun Tzu was right about that. But believing the platoon arrayed against you to be a batallion will prevent you from taking a position before their reinforcements arrive. Where herd mentality is involved, defeating that platoon will prevent the reinforcements from coming to be.

At this point, they are still more loud than legion. They want to convince people otherwise because the herd will seek safety in numbers, even if the numbers are in our imaginations. DO NOT HELP THEM DO IT!

phill4paul
01-24-2019, 12:06 PM
I know it's worse nearer the coasts. I know it's an important turning point.

I also know the herd did turn against the Covington kids, until the truth turned them back. Herd dynamics.

You seem to think I'm saying, don't fight. What I'm actually saying is, fight smarter now so we don't have to fight harder later.

Is it not a laughing matter? If you have ever seen an elementary school bully at work, then you know laughter is a pretty damned potent weapon.

Underestimating your enemy is bad. Sun Tzu was right about that. But believing the platoon arrayed against you to be a batallion will prevent you from taking a position before their reinforcements arrive. Where herd mentality is involved, defeating that platoon will prevent the reinforcements from coming to be.

At this point, they are still more loud than legion. They want to convince people otherwise because the herd will seek safety in numbers, even if the numbers are in our imaginations. DO NOT HELP THEM DO IT!

And this is where you are wrong. It did no such thing. It forced a double down which was too easily picked up and shifted.

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 12:14 PM
And this is where you are wrong. It did no such thing. It forced a double down which was too easily picked up and shifted.

Are you trying to convince me that anything like a hundred fifty million Americans woke up this morning believing Covington High to be a seething nest of evil racism?

The would-be sheep dogs are the would-be sheep dogs and the herd is the herd. Are we using the same terms?

Yes, in the last fifty years the herd has gone the wrong direction. They left green pastures for barren lands. And we will never, ever lead them back by blaming the many for the sins of the few.

The sheep dogs know the herd turned away. That's why they rushed to delete their tweets and issue apologies.

phill4paul
01-24-2019, 12:28 PM
Are you trying to convince me that anything like a hundred fifty million Americans woke up this morning believing Covington High to be a seething nest of evil racism?

The would-be sheep dogs are the would-be sheep dogs and the herd is the herd. Are we using the same terms?

Yes, in the last fifty years the herd has gone the wrong direction. They left green pastures for barren lands. And we will never, ever lead them back by blaming the many for the sins of the few.

It doesn't take half a population. You know that. History tells you that.

Anti Federalist
01-24-2019, 12:35 PM
I know it's worse nearer the coasts. I know it's an important turning point.

It is, especially in places like where Phill is from, suffering a literal invasion of yankee progs.


I also know the herd did turn against the Covington kids, until the truth turned them back. Herd dynamics.

The more hardcore are still after them.


Is it not a laughing matter? If you have ever seen an elementary school bully at work, then you know laughter is a pretty damned potent weapon.
The last "bully" I laughed at, quite literally, punched me in the face. It was only when I hit him harder and caused him more pain than he was causing me, did he back off.


Underestimating your enemy is bad. Sun Tzu was right about that. But believing the platoon arrayed against you to be a batallion will prevent you from taking a position before their reinforcements arrive. Where herd mentality is involved, defeating that platoon will prevent the reinforcements from coming to be.

I think this goes back to what you first mentioned about things being worse on the coasts.

I have known people personally, that are in "the belly of the beast" so to speak, who have had their lives threatened and property destroyed for expressing the most mild of "conservative" opinions.

I'm pretty sure that does not happen anywhere in OK.


At this point, they are still more loud than legion. They want to convince people otherwise because the herd will seek safety in numbers, even if the numbers are in our imaginations. DO NOT HELP THEM DO IT!

"Our" herd is certainly shit out of luck in that regard.

We have no herd.

Which is my larger point...if we are going to survive this, it will take nerves of steel.

AuH20
01-24-2019, 01:05 PM
The rot is great in the urban areas. That's where the heavy indoctrination bears fruit. Codependency models are perfected there, which leads to almost a complete dissolution of the individual.

phill4paul
01-24-2019, 01:11 PM
"A republic, if you can keep it."

CaptUSA
01-24-2019, 01:13 PM
Well, Tucker should know... He plays identity politics with the best of 'em.

acptulsa
01-24-2019, 01:18 PM
We have no herd.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ty5bXad0dZI

Ever since 2008 we've been asking ourselves why we failed. We're all so proud of not being sheep, and so contemptuous of sheeple. Wiser fools than us are too, but they're happy most people are sheep. They embrace the sheep. They take the trouble to understand them.

We are the dumbass sheep dog who stands in the path to the green meadow and barks, 'Hey, stupid sheep! If you had an ounce of sense you'd come this way!'

And what happens? 'What is that?' asks a sheep.

'A dog barking,' says another. 'He sounds angry.'

'Well, I'm not going over there.'

'Hey,' bleats the wolf in sheep's clothing. 'Everyone is going this way.'

'Isn't that where the wolf pack hangs out?'

'I guess not,' says the wooly wolf. 'Everybody's going that way.'

'Everybody?'

'Well, 'most everybody. Everybody but us!'

'Let's go!'

Sometimes having nerves if steel means being able to ignore your instincts long enough to use your head.

Stratovarious
01-24-2019, 02:02 PM
Miss read title

Swordsmyth
01-24-2019, 02:31 PM
I like Tucker, but lets look at this a second;
We have yet to be invaded in a meaningful way:
WW1
WWII
No Korea
Vietnam
Iraq
Syria
...and a thousand lands in between.
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We have always had Partisan Politics.
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Partisan Politics has kept us from invasion.
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:frog:
We have 20+MILLION invaders in the country RIGHT NOW.

Swordsmyth
01-24-2019, 02:38 PM
AF is right (AS ALWAYS), only separation and/or bloodshed can save us now, there will come a time in the not too distant future when we will be forced to deal with it.

If we fail freedom will die for at least 100 years.

Stratovarious
01-24-2019, 02:41 PM
We have 20+MILLION invaders in the country RIGHT NOW.
Right, I figure Tucker is talking about Military Invasions, illegals of course are
a very glaring type of 'soft invasion' like a 'soft kill'; fluoride, mercury, round up, GMO's .....

AuH20
01-24-2019, 03:23 PM
AF is right (AS ALWAYS), only separation and/or bloodshed can save us now, there will come a time in the not too distant future when we will be forced to deal with it.

If we fail freedom will die for at least 100 years.

And they'll use the police to start the compliance rituals. Progs control the funds, as in pensions. Those cops will lick storm drains if ordered to.
Police will die and then they'll send in the professionals.

TheCount
01-24-2019, 05:11 PM
If only there were a political party whose politics were not based upon identity.

Swordsmyth
01-24-2019, 05:13 PM
If only there were a political party whose politics were not based upon identity.
There are several.

The GOP is one and then there are 3rd parties.

euphemia
01-24-2019, 05:18 PM
If only there were a political party whose politics were not based upon identity.
This is why my trust is in God, not government. God is the one who determines the final outcome. While I'm still here, prayer is the way to join where God is working to bring about change in my community. The church offers a means for me to give time and money to act on my faith. Politics is way down the list, but it gives me a way to influence people who are somewhat likeminded.

ThePaleoLibertarian
01-24-2019, 05:21 PM
It makes absolutely no sense to support a multi-ethnic democracy while also opposing identity politics. One gets you the other.

nikcers
01-24-2019, 06:18 PM
Well, Tucker should know... He plays identity politics with the best of 'em.

He is just drinking what they are selling. I don't blame Tucker Carlson for being a good capitalist I don't like his ideas on using government force to legislate morality. I think those ideas are worse than poison. If it weren't for his views on the middle east I would not watch it.

CaptUSA
01-24-2019, 06:50 PM
He is just drinking what they are selling. I don't blame Tucker Carlson for being a good capitalist I don't like his ideas on using government force to legislate morality. I think those ideas are worse than poison. If it weren't for his views on the middle east I would not watch it.

Lol... Who is drinking what now???

nikcers
01-24-2019, 07:02 PM
Lol... Who is drinking what now???

Tucker is buying what they are selling don't you know how the MSM works? The MSM buys up all of the people watching it in one way or another.