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Warlord
01-16-2019, 10:44 AM
Multiple U.S. troops were killed in an explosion in the Syrian city of Manbij on Wednesday, the military confirmed, without releasing a number.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/16/us-troops-killed-manbij-syria-1104355

Dr.3D
01-16-2019, 11:08 AM
So ISIS heard the U.S. was getting ready to leave Syria and to keep that from happening they did a bombing?

Who else could have done it?

Could it be one of the alphabet agencies that did it to keep the U.S. involved there?

I wouldn't put it past them.

enhanced_deficit
01-16-2019, 11:18 AM
So ISIS heard the U.S. was getting ready to leave Syria and to keep that from happening they did a bombing?

Who else could have done it?

Could it be one of the alphabet agencies that did it to keep the U.S. involved there?

I wouldn't put it past them.

Early reports can be incomplete/inaccurate, hard to know let alone speculate until all the facts come out.

In the past some reports have blamed our closest ally in mideast for false flag attacks to stop US/UK exit from Egypt:


Israel's plan was to bomb Western targets, make it seem as though Egypt was behind the attacks
Nov. 11, 2009
The Lavon affair - also known locally as esek habish, "the rotten business" - was a plan to discredit Egypt's government, then headed by Gamal Abdel Nasser, by bombing theaters, post offices and U.S. and British institutions, and making it seem as though Egypt was behind the bombings. The thinking in Israel at the time was that if the British were to give up control of the Suez Canal, it would be left in Egypt's hands, putting Cairo in a better position to exert pressure on Israel.
The agents were told "to undermine the West's trust in the [Egyptian] government by causing public insecurity" while concealing Israel's role in the sabotage.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition...s-later-1.4385 (http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/mi-figures-out-what-went-wrong-in-lavon-affair-55-years-later-1.4385)



Conspiracy theories relating to ISIS have been all over the place:

Netherlands suspends Cyber Security official who said Zionists created ISIS (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?459322-Netherlands-suspends-Cyber-Security-official-who-said-Zionists-created-ISIS&)


IDF chief finally acknowledges that Israel supplied weapons to Syrian rebels
In interview with UK’s Sunday Times, outgoing army commander Gadi Eisenkot says Israel gave opposition groups light arms ‘for self-defense’
By Judah Ari Gross
14 January 2019

https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2018/07/000_17U1II-e1532188585301-640x400.jpgSyrian rebel fighters from the Quneitra province walk with their rifles as they wait at the Morek crossing point to be transfered in the provinces of Idlib and Aleppo on July 21, 2018. (AFP Photo/Aaref Watad)

Outgoing IDF Chief of Staff Gadi Eisenkot this weekend acknowledged for the first time that Israel had indeed provided weaponry to Syrian rebel groups in the Golan Heights during the country’s seven-year civil war.
Until Sunday, Israel would say officially only that it had given humanitarian aid to Syrian opposition groups across the border, while denying or refusing to comment on reports that it had supplied them with arms as well.



Israel Pulse

Israel concerned over American exit of Syria
Ben Caspit December 21, 2018

shakey1
01-16-2019, 11:44 AM
So ISIS heard the U.S. was getting ready to leave Syria and to keep that from happening they did a bombing?

Who else could have done it?

Could it be one of the alphabet agencies that did it to keep the U.S. involved there?

I wouldn't put it past them.

Kinda what I was thinking.

Schifference
01-16-2019, 03:50 PM
All the more reason to GTFO.

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 04:15 PM
Time to leave.

Zippyjuan
01-16-2019, 04:45 PM
Even after news of the attack was released, Vice President Mike Pence assured the American public that ISIS has indeed been defeated.

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/16/18185339/mike-pence-syria-bombing-isis-manbij-attack


Mike Pence claimed ISIS was defeated hours after it killed US troops in Syria


Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday proudly proclaimed to an audience of America’s most senior diplomats that “ISIS has been defeated” and “the caliphate has crumbled.”

Yet he failed to mention that just hours before, ISIS had claimed responsibility for a suicide bombing in Syria that killed at least 15 people, including several US military service members.

It’s yet another example of how senior Trump administration officials continue to minimize the terrorist group’s strength in order to bolster the president’s case for withdrawing US troops from Syria, where the group still operates.

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 04:51 PM
Even after news of the attack was released, Vice President Mike Pence assured the American public that ISIS has indeed been defeated.

https://www.vox.com/2019/1/16/18185339/mike-pence-syria-bombing-isis-manbij-attack
Maybe he knows that ISIS had nothing to do with it, our own deepstate or many foreign non-ISIS actors would like to stop the pullout.

Zippyjuan
01-16-2019, 04:55 PM
Maybe he knows that ISIS had nothing to do with it, our own deepstate or many foreign non-ISIS actors would like to stop the pullout.

Trump admitted that ISIS in Syria was not defeated when he suggested Turkey would take over fighting them.

Stratovarious
01-16-2019, 05:02 PM
Don't try to 'save face' , we laid out our exit strategy lets stick with it, leave as planned.

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 05:03 PM
Trump admitted that ISIS in Syria was not defeated when he suggested Turkey would take over fighting them.
They are defeated, all that is left is the mop up phase, Syria and Russia and Iran or Turkey or anyone in the region can take over for that.

Zippyjuan
01-16-2019, 05:16 PM
Don't try to 'save face' , we laid out our exit strategy lets stick with it, leave as planned.

The "as planned" original 30 days is up Sunday. Trump always makes big proclamations and then backs down. Timeline is now "eventually". Last March he said the US would be leaving "soon".

Stratovarious
01-16-2019, 05:20 PM
The "as planned" original 30 days is up Sunday.

Good, it may take a few extra days to finish scraping the blood off the walls, zipping the
body bags, and repaint.

Anti Globalist
01-16-2019, 05:23 PM
Get us the hell out of there already.

enhanced_deficit
01-16-2019, 06:49 PM
Trump was warned in Iraq that ISIS was not defeated in Syria

By Kevin Liptak, CNN
Wed January 16, 2019

Washington (CNN)Military commanders warned President Donald Trump on December 26 during his surprise visit to Iraq (http://www.cnn.com/2018/12/27/politics/donald-trump-secret-trip-iraq/index.html) that -- despite his claims to the contrary -- ISIS was not entirely defeated in Syria.

People familiar with the President's reaction said the conversation was eye-opening for a leader who days earlier claimed the terror group was defeated "badly" in the country.
The warning comes into new light with the news that a suicide blast in northern Syria (http://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/syria-attack-us-patrolled-city/index.html)killed four Americans as Trump presses forward with a withdrawal of US forces from the country.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/16/politics/donald-trump-isis-syria-warning/index.html

enhanced_deficit
01-16-2019, 11:36 PM
Time to leave.

Immediately or after few months?

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 11:38 PM
Immediately or after few months?
Either one is better than never.

enhanced_deficit
01-17-2019, 07:10 PM
Either one is better than never.

But POTUS announced immediate exit from Syria, has that been cancelled by Bolton or Ivanak or Adelson or Netanyahu?

Swordsmyth
01-17-2019, 07:15 PM
But POTUS announced immediate exit from Syria, has that been cancelled by Bolton or Ivanak or Adelson or Netanyahu?
Immediate can mean many things besides literally instantaneous.

It can also be necessary to make some minor modifications in order to avoid impeachment by the lunatics in D.C.

We are leaving so you can go cry your heart out that you are losing one of your TDS talking points.

enhanced_deficit
01-17-2019, 07:19 PM
The "as planned" original 30 days is up Sunday. Trump always makes big proclamations and then backs down. Timeline is now "eventually". Last March he said the US would be leaving "soon".

When was "30 days" timeline specifically announced, thought it was "soon"?

AuH20
01-17-2019, 09:32 PM
https://i.redd.it/31pgyurtm0b21.jpg

RonZeplin
01-17-2019, 10:20 PM
https://youtu.be/jQYMfasEBF4

Zippyjuan
01-18-2019, 12:17 PM
When was "30 days" timeline specifically announced, thought it was "soon"?

In March 2018, Trump said US troops would be leaving Syria "soon". On December 19th he said he wanted them out in 30 days. That 30 days is up this weekend and not a single person has left.

Warlord
01-18-2019, 12:38 PM
Zippy, have you seen what Sen. Rand Paul has said? He has actually talked to Trump about this and he reassures us that the troops will leave soon.

enhanced_deficit
01-18-2019, 12:56 PM
In March 2018, Trump said US troops would be leaving Syria "soon". On December 19th he said he wanted them out in 30 days. That 30 days is up this weekend and not a single person has left.

Ok, I stand corrected. Thanks for the detail.

Trump's rhetoric has been consistent though about ending foreign wars.

https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/aZYchGNmVVXxsIwMAdBhAreMCQ8=/26x0:595x298/fit-in/1200x630/cdn3.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/9087225/Screen_Shot_2017_08_21_at_11.14.21_AM.png


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/22/15/4373253500000578-4811382-Donald_Trump_was_deeply_skeptical_of_the_war_in_Af ghanistan_in_t-a-2_1503411083910.jpg

enhanced_deficit
01-19-2019, 06:18 PM
Trump Travels To Dover AFB For Dignified Transfer Of 4 Americans Killed In Syria

January 19, 20191:33 PM ET
Ian Stewart


https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2019/01/19/gettyimages-1085037118_wide-bd40fde14716acee276ec905874b2a1bd22cb6fd-s800-c85.jpg
As President Donald Trump and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo watch, a U.S. Navy team moves a transfer case containing the remains of Scott A. Wirtz, Saturday at Dover Air Force Base.
Brendan Smialowski/AFP/Getty Images

Updated 5:17 p.m. ET
President Trump traveled to Dover Air Force Base on Saturday as the remains of four Americans killed earlier this week by a suicide bomber in Syria were returned to the U.S.
Trump, who met privately with family members of the four Americans, was joined by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and acting Secretary of Defense Patrick Shanahan.

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/19/686864704/trump-travels-to-dover-afb-for-dignified-transfer-of-4-americans-killed-in-syria



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