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enhanced_deficit
01-16-2019, 10:15 AM
Could we see this years SOTU speech via tweets?
MAGA said so many nice things about Pelosi and this is the paykback. Opportunity to to inform America truthfully on such a big platform about the current state of the union and correct fakewnes lies woud be huge deal for former reality TV star.


Pelosi asks Trump to reschedule SOTU because of the shutdown

The House speaker is citing security concerns, but Democrats also don't want to give Trump a platform to blame them for the shutdown.

By HEATHER CAYGLE and RACHAEL BADE
01/16/2019

Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday asked President Donald Trump to reschedule his State of the Union address — or deliver it in writing — as long as the government remains shut down.

Pelosi said the partial shutdown has hamstrung both the U.S. Secret Service and the Department of Homeland Security, potentially harming the security planning that precedes the primetime address.

"Sadly, given the security concerns and unless government re-opens this week, I suggest that we work together to determine another suitable date after government has re-opened for this address or for you to consider delivering your State of the Union address in writing to the Congress on January 29th," Pelosi wrote in a letter (https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000168-5741-d4bd-affb-ff6df3840002) to Trump.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/16/pelosi-asks-trump-to-reschedule-state-of-the-union-address-1103047




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enhanced_deficit
01-16-2019, 10:53 AM
This is top headline at Drudge now:




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PELOSI TAUNTS TRUMP: YOUR STATE OF UNION POSTPONED! (https://apnews.com/d90578a1687049e9a67db01582ce4278)
SHUTDOWN TURNS WEAPON (http://news.trust.org/item/20190116151418-2t7f7) https://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif

enhanced_deficit
01-16-2019, 03:43 PM
Here we go again, though opinion cannot be classified as 'fakenews' technically but media opinions again twisting the meaning of #winning:

Nancy Pelosi uninvites Trump from the State of the Union until the shutdown is over
She also says he can deliver it in writing if he wants.
Jan 16, 2019


Facing Trump’s tantrum, Pelosi takes away the TV

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/01/16/pelosi-case-tantrum-take-away-tv/?utm_term=.ceb2f771b17d



Nancy Pelosi Is Winning

She beat George W. Bush on Social Security privatization, and she’ll beat Trump on the wall.
6:30 AM ET
Peter Beinart
Professor of journalism at the City University of New York

Democrats sometimes portray themselves as high-minded and naive—unwilling to play as rough as the GOP. Speaker Nancy Pelosi is, once again, proving that self-image wrong. She’s not only refusing Donald Trump’s demand for a border wall. She’s trying to cripple his presidency. And she may well succeed.
Pelosi’s strategy resembles the one she employed to debilitate another Republican president: George W. Bush. Bush returned to Washington after his 2004 reelection victory determined to partially privatize Social Security. “I earned capital in the campaign, political capital,” he told (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/21/18103325/nancy-pelosi-social-security-privatization-bush-plan) the press, “and I intend to spend it.” Bush’s plan contained two main elements. The first was convincing the public that there was a crisis. Social Security, he declared (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/transcripts/bushtext_020205.html) in his 2005 State of the Union address, “is headed toward bankruptcy.” The second was persuading Democrats to offer their own proposals for changing it.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/01/why-nancy-pelosi-wont-compromise-border-wall/580516/


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Schifference
01-16-2019, 03:54 PM
Go ahead with it as planned. When did we need a SOTU address more than when in chaos?

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 04:14 PM
LOL

They are losing and they are desperate.

acptulsa
01-16-2019, 04:44 PM
Pelosi's saying things specifically required by the Constitution shouldn't be done?

That didn't take long. She has only been the speaker again, what, two weeks now?

Stratovarious
01-16-2019, 04:57 PM
Pelosi's saying things specifically required by the Constitution shouldn't be done?

That didn't take long. She has only been the speaker again, what, two weeks now?

Nancy is right for once, Trump should reschedule to start earlier and run later, CNN replaced
as Key Coverage Network by Fox or some independent network.
Nancy should be forced to sit right in front of Trump so he can give
her the nod now and again when he hits key points.
:frog:

oyarde
01-16-2019, 05:20 PM
I have always thought delivering them in writing in concise memo form and taking no questions is the way to go . Pelosi should be busy working on cutting spending , not worrying about what trump is doing .

Anti Globalist
01-16-2019, 05:54 PM
Delusional grandma. Doesn't she have grandkids she should be spending time with instead of being thorn in every bodies side?

dannno
01-16-2019, 06:33 PM
NBC, CNN: Secret Service, DHS Reject Nancy Pelosi’s ‘Security’ Excuse for Canceling State of the Union


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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/16/nbc-cnn-secret-service-dhs-reject-nancy-pelosis-security-excuse-for-canceling-state-of-the-union/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_content=links&utm_campaign=20190116

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 06:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0b7GKNrxZ4

dannno
01-16-2019, 06:58 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0b7GKNrxZ4

53:10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zqvc_rnSeg

Great movie (PCU), if you can find a higher quality version this movie was about PC culture going overboard back in the early 90s...

The "Pit" are sorta like the libertarians, and they have to fight the old guard establishment right who secretly teamed up with the leftist crybaby commies who now run the school..

This movie was 25 years ahead of its time.

TheCount
01-16-2019, 07:04 PM
Pelosi's saying things specifically required by the Constitution shouldn't be done?

That didn't take long. She has only been the speaker again, what, two weeks now?

For the vast majority of the country's history, the president did not give a state of the union speech to a joint session. The Constitution doesn't require it.

Evidently, the speaker is the one who invites the president to deliver the speech in person. Her letter is an excellent troll, which is why the white house has told other people (DHS, etc.) to respond rather than respond themselves. Whichever D staffer has been tasked with coming up with ways to annoy Trump, they are doing an outstanding job.

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 07:05 PM
For the majority of the country's history, it was not delivered in person.

Evidently, the speaker is the one who invites the president to come deliver the speech in person. Her letter is an excellent troll, which is why the white house has told other people (DHS, etc.) to respond rather than respond themselves. Whichever D staffer has been tasked with coming up with ways to annoy Trump, they are doing an outstanding job.
They are making fools of themselves, but I understand why you can't see that.

TheCount
01-16-2019, 07:08 PM
They are making fools of themselves, but I understand why you can't see that.

It's strange that that bothers rather than pleases you.

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 07:10 PM
It's strange that that bothers rather than pleases you.
Why do you think it bothers me?

I am quite pleased.

specsaregood
01-16-2019, 08:47 PM
The federal govt will have been "shutdown" for over 30 days by the regularly scheduled SOTU.
If he holds it, he could fire on tv almost a million nonessential workers. The greatest "You're fired!" in history! Hell, probably would get in the Guinness record book.

The Donald, just do it!

TheCount
01-16-2019, 09:01 PM
The federal govt will have been "shutdown" for over 30 days by the regularly scheduled SOTU.
If he holds it, he could fire on tv almost a million nonessential workers. The greatest "You're fired!" in history! Hell, probably would get in the Guinness record book.

The Donald, just do it!

Are we still pretending that he's for smaller government?

specsaregood
01-16-2019, 09:04 PM
Are we still pretending that he's for smaller government?

Nope. I'm playing on his ego here.

enhanced_deficit
01-17-2019, 12:12 PM
[QUOTE=Stratovarious;6736325]Nancy is right for once, Trump should reschedule to start earlier and run later, CNN replaced
as Key Coverage Network by Fox or some independent network.
QUOTE]

EM

Surely you're not implying Fox is independent?
They appear to be opportunist hacks just like much of MSM.

Fox owner hosted fund raiser for Hillary Clinton, his daughter hosted fund raiser for Obama (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?479775-Fox-owner-hosted-fund-raiser-for-Hillary-Clinton-his-daughter-hosted-fund-raiser-for-Obama&)

Stratovarious
01-17-2019, 12:47 PM
[QUOTE=Stratovarious;6736325]Nancy is right for once, Trump should reschedule to start earlier and run later, CNN replaced
as Key Coverage Network by Fox or some independent network.
QUOTE]

EM

Surely you're not implying Fox is independent?
They appear to be opportunist hacks just like much of MSM.

Fox owner hosted fund raiser for Hillary Clinton, his daughter hosted fund raiser for Obama (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?479775-Fox-owner-hosted-fund-raiser-for-Hillary-Clinton-his-daughter-hosted-fund-raiser-for-Obama&)

I read some time back that Fox was taken over by some real cuck, might explain
Tuckers recent beat down on Pot.
I've never trusted Fox explicitly , just bent a little better than CNN et al.
...and' no, I wasn't saying Fox was independent , that's why I said; ''some independent''
not; some other' independent.

enhanced_deficit
01-17-2019, 12:51 PM
[QUOTE=enhanced_deficit;6736763]

I read some time back that Fox was taken over by some real cuck, might explain
Tuckers recent beat down on Pot.
I've never trusted Fox explicitly , just bent a little better than CNN et al.
...and' no, I wasn't saying Fox was independent , that's why I said; ''some independent''
not; some other' independent.

I sort of sensed the distinction, just wanted to clarify ... and also plug a news story about their track record there :)

Good points.

Stratovarious
01-17-2019, 01:05 PM
[QUOTE=Stratovarious;6736781]

I sort of sensed the distinction, just wanted to clarify ... and also plug a news story about their track record there :)

Good points.
Thanks for the link, .....waiting for another new agency to crop up, Libertarian run, we'll see.
We have some great conservatarians' out there, I've recently been listening to Steve Turley, fantastic coverage
in my view of European issues, and is a pretty big fan of Trump, would like to see Turley team up with
some of Ron Paul's staff possibly or Stephan Molyneux , you know ... the 'like' some real talent there.
There are others, but Molyneux and Turley are much more gifted with coherent and fluid content than
most.
Everything points to CNN et al seeing its final days soon, unless they can stir up WWIII.
:frog:

timosman
01-17-2019, 01:33 PM
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1085978219872964608

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxIrbtUXcAA5T07.jpg

fcreature
01-17-2019, 03:12 PM
Watching this play out is going to be a blast.

Not sure Nancy knows what she's in for.

Rand tweeting today to suggest having the Senate host SOTU address.

timosman
01-17-2019, 03:17 PM
Watching this play out is going to be a blast.

Not sure Nancy knows what she's in for.

Commies plan:

1. Surround yourself with sycophants.
2. ...
3. Profit.

Schifference
01-17-2019, 03:49 PM
Have SOTU address.

Address border security, Afghanistan, Syria, ........

Then fire all those furloughed and tell the American people that the debt is too much and tell congress they need to address Pension Reform.

specsaregood
01-18-2019, 10:38 AM
He should do a SOTU out in public on the border in a spot where there is no wall.

enhanced_deficit
01-18-2019, 01:04 PM
https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1085978219872964608

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxIrbtUXcAA5T07.jpg

That is quite a response, almost historic/unprecedented.


https://fm-static.cnbc.com/awsmedia/chart/2019/0/17/trump (1).1547753847645.jpg

Swordsmyth
01-18-2019, 03:54 PM
There has been much adieu made about Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s disinviting President Donald J. Trump to give the State of the Union address on the floor of the House of Representatives.
But, just as Pelosi had no authority to use a military jet for her overseas vacation (https://bigleaguepolitics.com/president-trump-cancels-nancy-pelosis-overseas-trip-one-hour-before-flight/) with a Congressional delegation Thursday after Trump cancelled her plane, she appears to have no power to stop him from convening the Congress for the State of the Union, especially given the emergency at the southern border.
The legal precedent lies in an opinion from the Deputy Solicitor General for President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, a man by the name of George T. Washington, who, from his post at the Department of Justice, told Congress that the president has the Constitutional authority to convene them even when they are adjourned (https:///Users/pdabrosca/Downloads/op-olc-supp-v001-p0140_0.pdf), as they are now due to the partial government shutdown.
“There is nothing in the Constitution to indicate, nor is there any other basis for believing, that the President’s power to convene the Congress on extraordinary occasions depends upon the precise nature of the recess or the adjournment, that is, whether the adjournment is sine die, until a day certain, or until the majority leaders of the Congress find it in the public interest to reassemble the two houses,” Washington wrote in 1947.


Washington highlighted that the authority for the President to proceed as such exists especially during “extraordinary occasions.”

“The important factor would appear to be not the nature of the recess or adjournment but, rather, that the Congress is not in session and that an extraordinary occasion has arisen which requires that it be in session and that it convene, therefore, at a date earlier than it otherwise would,” he wrote. “It is beyond question that the two houses of the Congress do not have the power, even by statute, to defeat the constitutional power of the President, under Article II, Section 3, to convene the Congress on such an occasion.”
In this case, the “extraordinary occasion” is obvious: America’s porous southern border is costing American lives and crippling the lives of others via the dangerous drugs that pour into the country unfettered.
In a sane nation, one in which a political party wouldn’t be willing to sacrifice innocent lives or the wellbeing of its citizenry simply to defy a political foe, such legal pretense – all to give a simple speech – might not be necessary. But since, in 2019, the Democratic Party is interested in playing games with America’s security and prosperity, perhaps they’ll need to be compelled to let Trump elucidate the full scope of the problem on a national stage.
If that is the road Pelosi and company want to take, Trump appears to have the legal authority squash them yet again – and he should.

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/confirmed-trump-doesnt-need-nancys-permission-to-convene-congress-for-the-state-of-the-union/

Swordsmyth
01-20-2019, 07:05 PM
With plans for President Trump's annual State of the Union address uncertain (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-renews-call-to-delay-state-of-the-union-address-says-date-not-sacred), a North Carolina state lawmaker has extended the latest invitation for the president to deliver the speech in a setting away from Capitol Hill.
Tim Moore, a Republican who serves as speaker in North Carolina's state House of Representatives, issued a letter (http://speakermoore.com/speaker-moore-invites-president-trump-deliver-state-union-north-carolina/) Friday asking Trump to give the speech (https://www.foxnews.com/category/news-events/state-of-the-union) in the House chamber of North Carolina's Statehouse in Raleigh.
“I attended your first State of the Union address in Washington D.C. last year,” Moore wrote. “It was an unforgettable experience to witness this tradition of our commander-in-chief’s speech to a joint session of Congress.

“I also believe taking your message outside of the nation’s gilded capital to a state government venue reflects the priorities of your administration, and those of our Congress, to create success not only for federal institutions and programs but for the American people they serve,” the letter continues.


Previously, another Republican state lawmaker – in Michigan – also invited Trump (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-lawmaker-invites-trump-to-give-state-of-the-union-address-from-state-capitol) to deliver his speech in the state Capitol of that state, in Lansing.
“There is no higher loyalty or obligation than to the people we serve and the communities we represent, and no partisan gamesmanship should stand in the way of that service,” new state House Speaker Lee Chatfield wrote in his letter to the president. “Because of that, this chamber and this speaker are willing to put people before politics for this important occasion.”
The White House hasn't yet announced what the president will do regarding the State of the Union speech in the wake of Pelosi's request that he not appear at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 29.

More at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/north-carolina-is-second-state-lawmaker-to-invite-trump-to-deliver-state-of-union-speech-from-capitol

enhanced_deficit
01-23-2019, 07:07 PM
This was not supposed to happen. Situation is nearing a tad bit dangerous tipping point and perception in media reporting is already being built that Pelosi is running things "Like a Boss" and energizing Dems base.

Despite Pelosi request to delay, Trump moves ahead with SOTU
by JILL COLVIN, The Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House is moving forward with plans for President Donald Trump to deliver his State of the Union speech next week in front of a joint session of Congress — despite a letter from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi requesting he delay it.
The White House sent an email to the House Sergeant-at-Arms asking to schedule a walk-through in anticipation of a Jan. 29 address, according to a White House official
In a tweet Sunday, Trump wrote that he was "still thinking about the State of the Union speech," and that there were "so many options - including doing it as per your written offer (made during the Shutdown, security is no problem), and my written acceptance."



Donald Trump dared Nancy Pelosi to cancel his State of the Union speech. So she did.

Analysis by Chris Cillizza, CNN Editor-at-large
Updated 7:19 PM ET, Wed January 23, 2019

(CNN)President Donald Trump will NOT be giving his State of the Union speech on the House floor (https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/government-shutdown-month-2019/index.html) next Tuesday.

That much now seems definite, following an exchange of hugely passive-aggressive letters between Trump and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Wednesday -- a battle of words that ended with Pelosi informing Trump that she would not be introducing a "concurrent resolution" allowing him to address a bicameral session of Congress on January 29.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/23/politics/donald-trump-nancy-pelosi/index.html


#troubling




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Trump wanted SOTU speech on time, on schedule, and very importantly, on location!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToRc2SPl3aA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToRc2SPl3aA