Tulsi Gabbard to run for President

[Brian4Liberty]

Tulsi Gabbard to run for president (https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/tulsi-gabbard-2020-president-run-1098629)
By Daniel Strauss - 01/11/2019


Rep. Tulsi Gabbard said Friday that she is running for president.

“I have decided to run and will be making a formal announcement within the next week,” she said during an interview on CNN's "The Van Jones Show."

Gabbard, a 37-year old combat veteran, has done little to hide her presidential ambitions. She recently made stops in both Iowa and New Hampshire and looked into hiring digital staff and speechwriters. She has also authored a memoir set to be released in May.

Late Friday, in a fundraising email, Gabbard said the reason she was running "has to do with an issue that is central to the rest — war and peace."

She also cited healthcare, immigration reform, clean water and air, criminal justice and special interest influence in Washington.

The Hawaii Democrat's entrance into the presidential primary field comes before an expected wave of similar announcements from higher profile candidates.
...
"There are a lot of reasons for me to make this decision,” Gabbard told Jones. “There are a lot of challenges that are facing the American people that I'm concerned about and that I want to help solve." She pointed to access to health care, criminal justice reform and climate change.

"There is one main issue that is central to the rest, and that is the issue of war and peace," she said. "I look forward to being able to get into this and to talk about it in depth when we make our announcement."
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More: https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/11/tulsi-gabbard-2020-president-run-1098629

[oyarde]

She is a typical leftist dud . Offering the same things as usual , more war , food stamps , dirty immigrants , taxes and extra expensive health care fines . She can never win a DNC primary or defeat trump . She would make trump look like an economic genius .

[oyarde]

RPFs leftists tools will be busy on Wed running out to get her catalog .

[Anti Globalist]

Least shitty of all the Dems but shes got no chance of getting the nomination or even be president. Only good thing I could think of is that if she ever became president, at least the first woman president won't be hideous.

[aGameOfThrones]

Can she even be president? Her and kamala harris parents aren’t natural born citizens and Gabbard was born in samoa making her a US national as her dad, her mom is from indiana though.

[enhanced_deficit]

She like Neil G of SCOTUS is a CFR member if I recall correctly news reports posted here. Though better than some hardcore Dem/GOP neocons on Foreign Policy & Debt Spending, her stance on Syria & Kashougi murder was bit too extreme and her rehtoric about sitting MAGA way too politically incorrect. In current political climate she probably won't go too far.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says Trump is "Saudi Arabia's bitch" in tweet (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528596-Rep-Tulsi-Gabbard-says-Trump-is-quot-Saudi-Arabia-s-bitch-quot-in-tweet&)

[Brian4Liberty]

No worries for the people who oppose her. The establishment (via their MSM) have already started attacking her. This should be entertaining. Will they just attack her now, or will they black her out? Probably both.

[Swordsmyth]

Just as a reminder:

https://www.thenewamerican.com/freedom-index

Dist.2: Tulsi Gabbard (https://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=38&Itemid=828&nameid=G000571) - 31%





H RES 397: NATO (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/115/hres397)


Vote Date: June 27, 2017
Vote: AYE (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll328.xml)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/0.jpg
Bad Vote.


This legislation (H. Res. 397) “solemnly reaffirms the commitment of the United States to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization’s principle of collective defense as enumerated in Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty.” Under Article 5, the member nations of the NATO military alliance “agree that an armed attack against one or more of them ... shall be considered an attack against them all.”

The House passed H. Res. 397 on June 27, 2017 by a lopsided vote of 423 to 4 (Roll Call 328). We have assigned pluses to the nays not only because the United States should stay clear of entangling alliances such as NATO, but also because the NATO provision that obligates the United States to go to war if any member of NATO is attacked undermines the provision in the U.S. Constitution that assigns to Congress the power to declare war. Moreover, the number of nations that the United States has pledged to defend under NATO has grown from 11 to 28 over the years, as the alliance itself has grown from 12 member nations (including the United States) when NATO was created in 1949 to 29 today. Although NATO was ostensibly formed to counter the threat from the Soviet bloc of nations, some of the nations the United States is now pledged to defend under NATO were once part of that bloc, including Albania, Bulgaria, the Czech Republic (as part of Czechoslovakia), Hungary, Poland, and Romania.








H R 5293: Authorization for Use of Military Force (http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2016/h/330)


Vote Date: June 16, 2016
Vote: NAY (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2016/roll330.xml)
http://www.thenewamerican.com/images/0.jpg
Bad Vote.


During consideration of the Defense Appropriations bill (H.R. 5293), Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) introduced an amendment to prohibit the use of funds in the bill for the 2001 Authorization for Use of Military Force Act. Enacted in the wake of 9/11, the AUMF authorized the president to “use all necessary and appropriate force” against the terrorists involved, as well as those who aided or harbored them. It was used as the authorization for U.S. military entry into Afghanistan in 2001, and over the years has also been invoked on other occasions by the executive branch to justify U.S. military intervention abroad.

The House rejected Lee’s amendment on June 16, 2016 by a vote of 146 to 274 (Roll Call 330). We have assigned pluses to the yeas because presidents have been able to claim broad authority to go to war whenever or wherever they choose under the AUMF, despite the fact that the Founding Fathers never intended for one man to make this decision, and under the Constitution only Congress may “declare war.”









H R 4909: Use of Military Force (http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2016/h/210)


Vote Date: May 18, 2016
Vote: NAY (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2016/roll210.xml)
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Bad Vote.


During consideration of the National Defense Authorization Act (H.R. 4909), Representative Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) introduced an amendment to repeal the Authorization for Use of Military Force (AUMF) that was enacted in 2001 for the purpose of authorizing U.S. military intervention in Afghanistan in the wake of the 9/11 terror attacks. Since then, however, the AUMF has been invoked numerous times by the executive branch for U.S. military intervention not only in Afghanistan but elsewhere.

The House rejected Lee’s amendment on May 18, 2016 by a vote of 138 to 285 (Roll Call 210). We have assigned pluses to the yeas because presidents have been able to claim broad authority to go to war whenever or wherever they choose under the AUMF, despite the fact that the Founding Fathers never intended for one man to make this decision, and under the Constitution only Congress may “declare war.”




H RES 162: Calling on the President to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity. (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hres162)


Vote Date: March 23, 2015
Vote: AYE (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2015/roll131.xml)
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Bad Vote.


Ukraine Military Aid.
House Resolution 162, which calls on the president "to provide Ukraine with military assistance to defend its sovereignty and territorial integrity," allows President Obama to provide Ukraine with defensive weapons to defend against aggression from Russia.

The House adopted H. Res. 162 on March 23, 2015 by a vote of 348 to 48 (Roll Call 131). We have assigned pluses to the nays not only because foreign aid is unconstitutional but also because this bill would further interject the United States into a foreign conflict. Allowing the U.S. president to provide lethal arms to Ukraine in order to fight Russia is tantamount to waging a proxy war on Russia without the constitutionally required congressional declaration of war. The House, by giving such power to the president, is relinquishing one of its constitutional responsibilities.




H R 4870: On Agreeing to the Amendment 51 to H R 4870 (http://www.opencongress.org/vote/2014/h/328)


Vote Date: June 19, 2014
Vote: NAY (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll328.xml)
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Bad Vote.


Weapons to Syrian Rebels.
During consideration of the Defense Appropriations bill, Representative Jeff Fortenberry (R-Neb.) introduced an amendment that would have prohibited any funding in the bill from being used to provide weapons to Syrian rebels. Fortenberry noted on the House floor that "the rebel movement is a battleground of shifting alliances and bloody conflicts between groups that now include multinational terrorist organizations," that "sending our weapons into this chaotic war zone could inadvertently help these extremists," and that "it has already happened." He added: "The naive notion that we can deliver weapons to vetted, moderate opposition groups at war with other rebel militias gives no guarantee that our weaponry won't be seized or diverted."

The House rejected Fortenberry's amendment on June 19, 2014 by a vote of 167 to 244 (Roll Call 328). We have assigned pluses to the yeas because arming "moderate" rebels in a foreign country is tantamount to going to war, which would require a declaration of war by Congress. Also, the United States should follow the Founders' advice not to become involved in foreign quarrels

















H R 4152: To provide for the costs of loan guarantees for Ukraine (http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/113/hr4152)


Vote Date: April 1, 2014
Vote: AYE (http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2014/roll149.xml)
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Bad Vote.


Ukraine Aid.

This bill (H.R. 4152), as amended by the Senate (see Senate vote below), would provide $150 million for direct aid to Ukraine. It would also provide for loan guarantees (meaning that U.S. taxpayers would be stuck holding the bag if the loans are not paid). And it would impose sanctions on Russian and ex-Ukrainian officials deemed responsible for the crisis in the Ukraine.

[ The Senate version of this legislation - offered in the form of a substitute amendment to the House version, H.R. 4152 - would provide $150 million for direct aid to Ukraine. It would also provide for loan guarantees (meaning that the U.S. taxpayers would be stuck holding the bag if the loans are not paid). And it would impose sanctions on Russian and ex-Ukrainian officials deemed responsible for the crisis in the Ukraine. ]

The House voted for this legislation on April 1, 2014 by a vote of 378 to 34 (Roll Call 149). We have assigned pluses to the nays because foreign aid is unconstitutional. The rationale for providing U.S. aid to Ukraine is that the country needs our assistance to resist Russian hegemony and build "democracy." Yet the oligarchs wielding power in Ukraine are hardly "democrats," and (because money is fungible) U.S. assistance could effectively be funneled to Russia in the form of Ukrainian energy and debt payments.

[Brian4Liberty]

In just a couple of hours, heard the following on the news about the Gabbard announcement:

- She’s young and inexperienced, like Ocassio-Cortez.
- Trump wanted her to serve in his Cabinet.
- She is aligned with the alt-right.

Speaking of young, there has been talk for a while now about the Democrats (and MSM) liking the “kid’s table” debate set-up used by the GOP last time around. No doubt the Dems will use it, hoping to split off the non-approved candidates into a lesser venue. Their criteria for the kid’s table should be a riot. “We use a combination of fixed polls and smokey back room agreements to determine the top candidates who will participate in the real debate.” After all, the DNC proved in court that their Primary process is not required to be fair, honest or democratic in nature. It’s really just a show.

[oyarde]

She like Neil G of SCOTUS is a CFR member if I recall correctly news reports posted here. Though better than some hardcore Dem/GOP neocons on Foreign Policy & Debt Spending, her stance on Syria & Kashougi murder was bit too extreme and her rehtoric about sitting MAGA way too politically incorrect. In current political climate she probably won't go too far.

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard says Trump is "Saudi Arabia's bitch" in tweet (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528596-Rep-Tulsi-Gabbard-says-Trump-is-quot-Saudi-Arabia-s-bitch-quot-in-tweet&)

I actually think she is as bad or worse than the worst . Actually , yes worse because she pretends she is not .

[Anti Globalist]

The Democrats have had 2 years to find a candidate that could go toe-to-toe with Trump. So far every Democrat thats considering running doesn't have the alpha male personality to contest him. I suppose Bloomberg could be Trumps biggest threat with his amount of wealth but hes not alpha enough and lacks a killer instinct.

[enhanced_deficit]

I actually think she is as bad or worse than the worst . Actually , yes worse because she pretends she is not .

Even worse than HRC or Ted Cruz or Rubio ?

While true she has had some bad positions , ties to accused genocider Modi and not a solid anti-war libertarian but she does break from mainstream neocons time to time and relatively unknown/blank slate candidate compared to some proven neocon lobbies puppets, fakenews/ fake frontgroup/ flip-flop candidates etc.

[oyarde]

Even worse than HRC or Ted Cruz or Rubio ?

While true she has some ties to accused genocider Modi and not a solid anti-war libertarian but she does break from mainstream neocons time to time and relatively unknown/blank slate candidate compared to some proven neocon lobbies puppets, fakenews/ fake frontgroup/ flip-flop candidates etc.

If you are asking if I would take Cruz or Rubio over her the answer is yes . I wold expect them to be equally bad on foreign and much better on domestic .

[Swordsmyth]

If you are asking if I would take Cruz or Rubio over her the answer is yes . I wold expect them to be equally bad on foreign and much better on domestic .

Yup.

[enhanced_deficit]

If you are asking if I would take Cruz or Rubio over her the answer is yes . I wold expect them to be equally bad on foreign and much better on domestic .

Guess we'll have to agree todisagree on this. Maybe I need to learn more about her record and stances and but on paper she appears to be better than confirmed neocons tools/fake frontgroup public servants like Cruz, Rubio, various GOP-Adelson/Dem-Soros funded puppets etc.

Democrat Gabbard, who slammed Israel for live fire use in Gaza, to run in 2020

Hawaii congresswoman and Iraq veteran also controversially met with Syria’s Assad and questioned whether he was responsible for chemical attack on civilians that killed dozens

By Agencies and TOI staff Today, 6:53 pm


https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/01/AP_19011858449452-640x400.jpgIn this Nov. 6, 2018, file photo, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, greets supporters in Honolulu (AP Photo/Marco Garcia, File)

Democratic Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who last year castigated Israel for its use of live ammunition against “unarmed protesters” at violent demonstrations on the Gaza border orchestrated by the Hamas terrorist group, has announced that she is running for president in 2020.

[Zippyjuan]

Can she even be president? Her and kamala harris parents aren’t natural born citizens and Gabbard was born in samoa making her a US national as her dad, her mom is from indiana though.

Trump's mom isn't a "natural born citizen" either. She was a unaccompanied minor who came to the US from Scotland as a young woman in a chain migration to live with her sister who had come her before her. His grandfather (father's side) was also an unaccompanied minor who spoke little English. Gabbard's mother was born in Indiana (thus a US citizen) and her father was born in American Samoa. Samoans are considered "US Nationals" but not "US Citizens." Gabbard was born in American Samoa to a US citizen mother.

[RJB]

I liked her at one time because she seemed honest and ballsy. Also Democrats with severe TDS really hate her. I am a libertarian/conservative and my main liking of Ron Paul was his dislike of foreign interventionalism so much so that I would have preferred Kucinich (with all his faults) over McCain. However I am not sure if Tulsi is actually trustworthy after reading up on her a little deeper. We shall see, I guess.

BTW, if Trump (with all his faults) actually gets us out of Syria and Afghanistan, I might actually become a supporter of him for 2020.

[dannno]

Gabbard's rhetoric on foreign wars, overall, is really, really good.. almost up there with Ron Paul. She genuinely seems like a good person. However, her voting record on wars is not good.. and when Trump decided to pull out of Syria, instead of celebrating, she distanced herself from the position which was very disappointing. She is also a member of the CFR which is concerning.

[Brian4Liberty]

I liked her at one time because she seemed honest and ballsy. Also Democrats with severe TDS really hate her. I am a libertarian/conservative and my main liking of Ron Paul was his dislike of foreign interventionalism so much so that I would have preferred Kucinich (with all his faults) over McCain. However I am not sure if Tulsi is actually trustworthy after reading up on her a little deeper. We shall see, I guess.

BTW, if Trump (with all his faults) actually gets us out of Syria and Afghanistan, I might actually become a supporter of him for 2020.

We can’t forget about her ties to Putin and Russia. There may be some collusion there. Better get Mueller to look into it. On second thought, he probably already is, and Hillary has everything they have found so far. This should be a breaking story at some point. Maybe from the WaPo.

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump's mom isn't a "natural born citizen" either. She was a unaccompanied minor who came to the US from Scotland as a young woman in a chain migration to live with her sister who had come her before her. His grandfather (father's side) was also an unaccompanied minor who spoke little English. Gabbard's mother was born in Indiana (thus a US citizen) and her father was born in American Samoa. Samoans are considered "US Nationals" but not "US Citizens." Gabbard was born in American Samoa to a US citizen mother.

Aha! Born in Samoa! Not a citizen! Can’t wait until CNN questions her citizenship...

[RJB]

Gabbard's rhetoric on foreign wars, overall, is really, really good.. almost up there with Ron Paul. She genuinely seems like a good person. However, her voting record on wars is not good.. and when Trump decided to pull out of Syria, instead of celebrating, she distanced herself from the position which was very disappointing. She is also a member of the CFR which is concerning.
Yeah. That's what I was talking about.

[RJB]

We can’t forget about her ties to Putin and Russia. There may be some collusion there. Better get Mueller to look into it. On second thought, he probably already is, and Hillary has everything they have found so far. This should be a breaking story at some point. Maybe from the WaPo.
From 2008 to 2016 people talked about what s conspiracy nutcase that Alex Jones was. However, from 2016 on Infowars was nowhere near the conspiracy nutcase as CNN and MSNBC.

[Swordsmyth]

Trump's mom isn't a "natural born citizen" either. She was a unaccompanied minor who came to the US from Scotland as a young woman in a chain migration to live with her sister who had come her before her. His grandfather (father's side) was also an unaccompanied minor who spoke little English. Gabbard's mother was born in Indiana (thus a US citizen) and her father was born in American Samoa. Samoans are considered "US Nationals" but not "US Citizens." Gabbard was born in American Samoa to a US citizen mother.
So their birth status isn't the same, he was born in the states.

[kona]

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1084318082976354304?s=19

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1084318082976354304?s=19

[dannno]

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1084318082976354304?s=19

https://twitter.com/DanielLMcAdams/status/1084318082976354304?s=19

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[RonZeplin]

Trump's mom isn't a "natural born citizen" either. She was a unaccompanied minor who came to the US from Scotland as a young woman in a chain migration to live with her sister who had come her before her. His grandfather (father's side) was also an unaccompanied minor who spoke little English. Gabbard's mother was born in Indiana (thus a US citizen) and her father was born in American Samoa. Samoans are considered "US Nationals" but not "US Citizens." Gabbard was born in American Samoa to a US citizen mother.

Willard Mitt Romney's father is a Mexican, Chihuahua. Didn't stop the Reconquista Republicans from cheating Ron Paul out of the nomination though.

http://ronwade.freeservers.com/2013McKinleyLine-1x23.jpg
George Romney - born in Chihuahua, Mexico

[Brian4Liberty]

Interesting guy. From Sanders supporter to Trump supporter...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPxx4aWB8go

[Brian4Liberty]

1084319905116229632
https://www.twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1084319905116229632

Has Gabbard ever been on any InfoWars shows?

[nikcers]

1084319905116229632
https://www.twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1084319905116229632

Has Gabbard ever been on any InfoWars shows?

Too busy with CFR

[nikcers]

The biggest indication that Gabbard is scam the wiki leaks Podesta breakup letter they got from the DNC establishment


Representative Gabbard, We were very disappointed to hear that you would resign your position with the DNC so you could endorse Bernie Sanders, a man who has never been a Democrat before.

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609


(https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609)

[acptulsa]

The establishment (via their MSM) have already started attacking her...

Via their shills, too.


Just as a reminder:

[nikcers]

Whats this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X4GiEaNBcE&#t=4h41m30s)?

[Peace Piper]

Has Gabbard ever been on any InfoWars shows?

Why would she bother with the latest incarnation of Jones who has drank the Trump/Republican kook aid and turned into a worthless cheerleader?

That blowhard fanboy isn't even worth listening to these days and the little children he has working for him are a disgrace. His time has come and gone and by jumping on Trump's lap he has destroyed years of work.

But Tulsi had time to appear on Jimmy Dore's show and Dore wasn't afraid to ask her real questions.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnyAO9wFPPI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XALBP9c-49g

Tulsi is the New Ron Paul. And Dore is much smarter and reasoned than the New Alex Jones. As his beard grows, his brain cells disappear.

[Swordsmyth]

Via their shills, too.
Oh?
How about you try to defend her "anti-war" credentials in light of those votes, shill.

[Swordsmyth]

Tulsi is the New Ron Paul.
:tears:

[Peace Piper]

:tears:

Save some tears for Penny Langford Freeman


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2taJY4UG6I

Swordsmyth, busy again "working" for a "revolution" by posting non- stop on a somewhat obscure political forum.

[Peace Piper]

Oh?
How about you try to defend her "ant-war" credentials in light of those votes, shill.

Superb. Now throwing around the "shill" accusation. Grow up.

Here's a refresher course on why Tulsi will shake up 2020- Tulsi has what Rand lacks, it's called mass appeal.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc-q7D35tpE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HbBazqc2Kk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Q8X60KQ9Q

Rand might have questioned Carter but he was too busy playing golf with insiders


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW72MAcQkGw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRc10x8ztBM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfBvpE2YZmg

[RonZeplin]

Tea With Assad, Hugs With Adelson: Tulsi Gabbard's Unique Views on Israel and the Middle East (https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-tulsi-gabbard-the-pro-assad-iraq-war-vet-critical-of-israel-loved-by-adelson-evangelicals-1.6831029?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter)

A picture from the 2016 gala dinner, which Boteach uploaded to his Twitter account, shows him and Gabbard together with Miriam Adelson (https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-the-real-reason-sheldon-adelson-s-wife-deserves-a-wikipedia-page-1.6363901), the Israeli-born wife of Sheldon Adelson (https://www.haaretz.com/misc/tags/TAG-sheldon-adelson-1.5599262) and a partner to his political donations to many GOP politicians.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cipo7kEVEAAaioe?format=jpg&name=small

[acptulsa]

Oh?
How about you try to defend her "ant-war" credentials in light of those votes, shill.

Ant war? She has taken a position in an ant war?

As far as anti-war, she's exactly the same as Trump. She sounds good, but acts like she's CFR. As Hillary said, 'What difference does it make?' In that department, and several others, she is Trump--a Democrat acting like a renegade.

[nikcers]

Superb. Now throwing around the "shill" accusation. Grow up.

Here's a refresher course on why Tulsi will shake up 2020- Tulsi has what Rand lacks, it's called mass appeal.

Rand should of just joined the CFR and Peace Piper would of supported him.

[Swordsmyth]

Superb. Now throwing around the "shill" accusation. Grow up.

Here's a refresher course on why Tulsi will shake up 2020- Tulsi has what Rand lacks, it's called mass appeal.

Tulsi is a communist CFR hypocrite and your fellow lover of the communist CFR hypocrite tossed the shill bomb first.

[Swordsmyth]

Rand should of just joined the CFR and Peace Piper would of supported him.
He would need to support stealing OPM to pay for PP's favorite hydrogen projects too.

[Swordsmyth]

Ant war? She has taken a position in an ant war?

As far as anti-war, she's exactly the same as Trump. She sounds good, but acts like she's CFR. As Hillary said, 'What difference does it make?' In that department, and several others, she is Trump--a Democrat acting like a renegade.
Trump is more anti-war than her, she did her best to criticize him for the Syria pullout and she isn't even president yet, she is also much more communist than Trump.

How about you quit defending her? shill.

[nikcers]

Trump is more anti-war than her, she did her best to criticize him for the Syria pullout and she isn't even president yet, she is also much more communist than Trump.

How about you quit defending her? shill.

LOL he said she was equal to Trump to him in regards to foreign policy, its not really defending her.

[Swordsmyth]

LOL he said she was equal to Trump to him in regards to foreign policy, its not really defending her.
Attacking me for merely posting her voting record IS defending her as is daring to say she is equal to Trump when she attacked him over the Syria pull out instead of cheering him for it.

[Stratovarious]

From 2008 to 2016 people talked about what s conspiracy nutcase that Alex Jones was. However, from 2016 on Infowars was nowhere near the conspiracy nutcase as CNN and MSNBC.
True, though Alex Jones broke some incredible 'conspiracies' that all called 'Theory' , then they
parroted his findings without giving credit and mischaracterizing and misrepresenting his
statements. Sure Alex has spewed some absolute bsht, but he has brought about an awakening
in a lot of people and had hundreds of amazing guests and interviews, its no wonder that fakebook
, youtube etc had to 'let him go' .

[acptulsa]

Trump is more anti-war than her, she did her best to criticize him for the Syria pullout and she isn't even president yet, she is also much more communist than Trump.

How about you quit defending her? shill.


LOL he said she was equal to Trump to him in regards to foreign policy, its not really defending her.

Thank you. +rep

I guess it's natural for a partisan shill to consider saying, "She's the same as RINO X," to be a defense. But you're right. It is not.


Attacking me for merely posting her voting record IS defending her as is daring to say she is equal to Trump when she attacked him over the Syria pull out instead of cheering him for it.

Daring? Daring?

I'm bad because I dare to tell the truth?

[Swordsmyth]

Thank you. +rep

I guess it's natural for a partisan shill to consider saying, "She's the same as RINO X," to be a defense. But you're right. It is not.



Daring? Daring?

I'm bad because I dare to tell the truth?
It's not the truth, it is demonstrably false.

[nikcers]

It's not the truth, it is demonstrably false.
The fake news has painted Tulsi Gabbard as the next Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was painted as the same foreign policy as Ron Paul by the fake news, therefore Tulsi Gabbard is fake news based Ron Paul.

[Origanalist]

The fake news has painted Tulsi Gabbard as the next Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders was painted as the same foreign policy as Ron Paul by the fake news, therefore Tulsi Gabbard is fake news based Ron Paul.

https://i.imgflip.com/2r2d5j.jpg

[specsaregood]

Besides being a total fake anti-war candidate, I hear she really hates the gays. She's going nowhere.

[Madison320]

She is a typical leftist dud . Offering the same things as usual , more war , food stamps , dirty immigrants , taxes and extra expensive health care fines . She can never win a DNC primary or defeat trump . She would make trump look like an economic genius .

One again I have to remind everyone that the odds of an economic collapse, or at the very least a severe recession are very likely before 2020. If that happens the republicans and especially Trump have no shot.

Of course as soon as the markets start acting up again everyone here is going to act like they knew it was going to crash all along.

[Madison320]

Even worse than HRC or Ted Cruz or Rubio ?

Yes and it's not even close. Once you go all out socialism it doesn't make any difference whether you're "anti-war".

If you don't have property rights you're effed from the start. Saying that foreign policy trumps property rights is like arguing really good ice cream for dessert overrides the cyanide you had for the main course.

[nikcers]

Besides being a total fake anti-war candidate, I hear she really hates the gays. She's going nowhere.
Maybe Juleswin will change his avatar to Tulsi Gabbard

[loveshiscountry]

The biggest indication that Gabbard is scam the wiki leaks Podesta breakup letter they got from the DNC establishment
Representative Gabbard, We were very disappointed to hear that you would resign your position with the DNC so you could endorse Bernie Sanders, a man who has never been a Democrat before.


https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609
(https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/3609)

It looks like the smart move would have been to stay in the DNC position and feed Bernie the questions.

[nikcers]

It looks like the smart move would have been to stay in the DNC position and feed Bernie the questions.

Bernie Sanders is shill for the DNC so that whoie hammer drop was political theater.

[oyarde]

When I was a kid we would have labeled her a grifter .

[RJB]

True, though Alex Jones broke some incredible 'conspiracies' that all called 'Theory' , then they
parroted his findings without giving credit and mischaracterizing and misrepresenting his
statements. Sure Alex has spewed some absolute bsht, but he has brought about an awakening
in a lot of people and had hundreds of amazing guests and interviews, its no wonder that fakebook
, youtube etc had to 'let him go' .

I have mixed feelings about Alex. He woke a lot of people up back in the day, but he has made our side look silly. That all said, I trust him more than CNN. He never was a propaganda tool to get us in needless war overseas.

[nikcers]

I have mixed feelings about Alex. He woke a lot of people up back in the day, but he has made our side look silly. That all said, I trust him more than CNN. He never was a propaganda tool to get us in needless war overseas.

Alex Jones is a bully I thought it was funny when he bullied Rubio though he can be entertaining.

[Brian4Liberty]

Why would she bother with the latest incarnation of Jones who has drank the Trump/Republican kook aid and turned into a worthless cheerleader?

So you are saying that she has never been on Alex Jones show?

[ProBlue33]

This one is for the olbies of RPF do you remember Dennis Kucinich, if you don't he ran on the other side in 2008, he had many things he agreed with Ron Paul on.
In fact many here on RPF said a Paul/Kucinich unity ticket could have beat an Obama/Biden ticket in 2008.

In 2020 Gabbard is the Kucinich of this race, much like Webb was in 2016 for the DNC.
I have been posting to other forums that have political sections, and here is the interesting thing Obama voters from 2008/12 that switched to Trump in 2016 have said she is pretty much the only one they would switch back for, not Bernie....Biden and Harris or Warren forget it.

What about Gabbard/Paul unity ticket, I would like it because now the media would have to attack both sides, what would CNN ever do ?

I really like what Trump is trying to do but things have gotten way out hand with political tribalism, anybody else is going to take us further left and alienate and anger the center/right, that's like 1/2 the country. Trump has polarized the situation to the point it is immobilizing choices that need to be made and the other side just wants to win.

I would like America to have a real choice in 2020, Gabbard Vs Trump fits the bill.
I highly doubt she makes it through the primaries then again we thought that about Trump too.

[Swordsmyth]

This one is for the olbies of RPF do you remember Dennis Kucinich, if you don't he ran on the other side in 2008, he had many things he agreed with Ron Paul on.
In fact many here on RPF said a Paul/Kucinich unity ticket could have beat an Obama/Biden ticket in 2008.

In 2020 Gabbard is the Kucinich of this race, much like Webb was in 2016 for the DNC.
I have been posting to other forums that have political sections, and here is the interesting thing Obama voters from 2008/12 that switched to Trump in 2016 have said she is pretty much the only one they would switch back for, not Bernie....Biden and Harris or Warren forget it.

What about Gabbard/Paul unity ticket, I would like it because now the media would have to attack both sides, what would CNN ever do ?

I really like what Trump is trying to do but things have gotten way out hand with political tribalism, anybody else is going to take us further left and alienate and anger the center/right, that's like 1/2 the country. Trump has polarized the situation to the point it is immobilizing choices that need to be made and the other side just wants to win.

I would like America to have a real choice in 2020, Gabbard Vs Trump fits the bill.
I highly doubt she makes it through the primaries then again we thought that about Trump too.
She is much worse than Kucinich.
She is a CFR hypocrite and Rand shouldn't touch her with a 10 ft. pole.
If the Dems choose her then Trump will win but he may be pushed to outdo her at being antiwar for at least a year to take her best issue away from her so that might not be too bad but they will NOT choose her:

As Democrats Reunite With Neocons, Their Voters Are Becoming Far More Pro-War Than Republicans (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530202-As-Democrats-Reunite-With-Neocons-Their-Voters-Are-Becoming-Far-More-Pro-War-Than-Republicans)

[nikcers]

This one is for the olbies of RPF do you remember Dennis Kucinich, if you don't he ran on the other side in 2008, he had many things he agreed with Ron Paul on.
In fact many here on RPF said a Paul/Kucinich unity ticket could have beat an Obama/Biden ticket in 2008.

In 2020 Gabbard is the Kucinich of this race, much like Webb was in 2016 for the DNC.
I have been posting to other forums that have political sections, and here is the interesting thing Obama voters from 2008/12 that switched to Trump in 2016 have said she is pretty much the only one they would switch back for, not Bernie....Biden and Harris or Warren forget it.

What about Gabbard/Paul unity ticket, I would like it because now the media would have to attack both sides, what would CNN ever do ?

I really like what Trump is trying to do but things have gotten way out hand with political tribalism, anybody else is going to take us further left and alienate and anger the center/right, that's like 1/2 the country. Trump has polarized the situation to the point it is immobilizing choices that need to be made and the other side just wants to win.

I would like America to have a real choice in 2020, Gabbard Vs Trump fits the bill.
I highly doubt she makes it through the primaries then again we thought that about Trump too.
I was thinking that so far Tulsi Gabbard would be the least likely to move the republican platform away from a more hawkish foreign policy.

[specsaregood]

In 2020 Gabbard is the Kucinich of this race, much like Webb was in 2016 for the DNC.


I doubt Kucinich would have voted against repealing the 2001 AUMF, voted to provide military assistance to the Ukraine, or for arming AlQaeda in Syria. Quite simply, she is no Kucinich.

[ProBlue33]

Yeah the CFR is an issue for sure.
I think the issue is, in the primary how does the media treat her.
Honest question, if not her then who from the DNC is the least offensive to liberty ?

I have looked at the rest of the lineup and it's pathetic, my perception is that every single one of these people would be worse for America than Trump.
How pathetic is that.

Here is a statement from her when she met with Trump in 2016 after he won.


This was an opportunity to advocate for peace — and I felt it was important to take the opportunity to meet with the President-elect to counteract neocons’ steady drumbeats of war, which threaten to drag us into an escalation of the war to overthrow the Syrian government.

Something does not add up here, and I am not sure what, aren't the CFR neocons overall ?

[Swordsmyth]

Yeah the CFR is an issue for sure.
I think the issue is, in the primary how does the media treat her.
Honest question, if not her then who from the DNC is the least offensive to liberty ?

I have looked at the rest of the lineup and it's pathetic, my perception is that every single one of these people would be worse for America than Trump.
How pathetic is that.
That sounds accurate.

That's why the Demoncrat party must die.

[fcreature]

Uhh... pass!

Although based on my Facebook feed, former RP libertarians love her. Not sure what is there to love about this communist.

[Stratovarious]

I have mixed feelings about Alex. He woke a lot of people up back in the day, but he has made our side look silly. That all said, I trust him more than CNN. He never was a propaganda tool to get us in needless war overseas.



Right, I agree, it's those that dismiss Alex out of hand that have
clouded and rigid views, limited capacity and or counter agendas.
I had followed Alex for 16 or 17 years, I realized/surmised about 10 years
ago that he is a zionist shill, apologist or stooge, for some
reason (be it funding etc) is controlled, (Sean Hannity
much more so, along with most of Fox).
Alex is an obnoxious, hypocritical-buffoon, yet he is still
IMV the most important figure in the renaissance of our
awaking population, awakening to the corruption in our govt
and thirsting for truth and restoration of the Republic
(inalienable rights as afforded us by the founders)
Alex is perhaps less relevant today though, as the awakening is
now pretty much at a saturation point, and fairly universal
amongst the views of center to far right conservatives.
-
Hillary Prison
Audit Fed
Posse Comitatus
Militarization of Law Enforcement
Smart Appliances
Phony Cell Towers
False Flags
William Binney
NSA Meta Data Spying issue
-
Just to list a few of the topics that were viewed as heritical
conspiracy theories, in time became vetted, accepted,
and universally understood.
I don't follow Alex today, as its much too tedious to deal
with his website and since 2017 morphed into the
Trump Channel, of course I support Trump, but the
show is no longer as relevant to me.

[Stratovarious]

That sounds accurate.

That's why the Demoncrat party must die.


Great point, I realize you probably don't advocate shutting them down literally,
but today the most relevant parties and almost fair balance might be the
Republican vs Libertarian parties.
However a 'no party' system would probably be even better.

[shakey1]

Could get inarresting.

[specsaregood]

Uhh... pass!

Although based on my Facebook feed, former RP libertarians love her. Not sure what is there to love about this communist.

A fair number of "former RP libertarians" are just people that go around supporting whomever is the new hotness of the year. they were all Bernie bros last go around.

[ProBlue33]

A fair number of "former RP libertarians" are just people that go around supporting whomever is the new hotness of the year. they were all Bernie bros last go around.

Or they are left leaning libertarians, I took a political poll recently that had many questions it was sectioned into 4, right authoritarian, left authoritarian, right libertarian, left libertarian.

I landed just slightly left of center in the liberty camp, it surprised me that I wasn't slightly right of center in the liberty section, and I ended up closer to the authoritarian section than I thought I should have been, but then again I do have strong opinions on abortion and that probably got me there.

The point, there was always slightly left leaning libertarians on RPF, those that said Kucinich was their second pick after Ron Paul in 2008 fall into that category.

As to your other point, it's very true, there is the fringe benefit that Gabbard is easier on the eyes than Trumps orange face; the Hildabeast didn't get there either.....yeah I went there, petty I know but I am being pragmatic, some people vote on a combination of policy/party and looks.

We are talking about somebody who can surf verses somebody that couldn't even climb stairs without help, the first woman to be President needs to have a certain amount of vigor so that she actually can win.

[specsaregood]

the first woman to be President needs to have a certain amount of vigor so that she actually can win.

Why presume that there ever has to be a first woman to be president?

[RJB]

I appreciate Infowars more than I let on in these posts. However, Alex is considered a benchmark for wackos in certain circles. I noted that the shills on the forum who disparage any article from from Infowars, let stand my claim that CNN and MSNBC are far worse.

Even the "Gay Frogs" memes vs global warming... A chemical in our water supply that has been scientifically proven in the lab to alter tthe anatomy and physiology of an animal is far more dangerous than emitting a natural gas (CO2) that may or may not raise the temperature a 1/2 degree.


Right, I agree, it's those that dismiss Alex out of hand that have
clouded and rigid views, limited capacity and or counter agendas.
I had followed Alex for 16 or 17 years, I realized/surmised about 10 years
ago that he is a zionist shill, apologist or stooge, for some
reason (be it funding etc) is controlled, (Sean Hannity
much more so, along with most of Fox).
Alex is an obnoxious, hypocritical-buffoon, yet he is still
IMV the most important figure in the renaissance of our
awaking population, awakening to the corruption in our govt
and thirsting for truth and restoration of the Republic
(inalienable rights as afforded us by the founders)
Alex is perhaps less relevant today though, as the awakening is
now pretty much at a saturation point, and fairly universal
amongst the views of center to far right conservatives.
-
Hillary Prison
Audit Fed
Posse Comitatus
Militarization of Law Enforcement
Smart Appliances
Phony Cell Towers
False Flags
William Binney
NSA Meta Data Spying issue
-
Just to list a few of the topics that were viewed as heritical
conspiracy theories, in time became vetted, accepted,
and universally understood.
I don't follow Alex today, as its much too tedious to deal
with his website and since 2017 morphed into the
Trump Channel, of course I support Trump, but the
show is no longer as relevant to me.

[Brian4Liberty]

No worries everyone. The establishment put out another candidate, and pretty much any source is spending much more time talking about him, if they talk about Gabbard at all. He even got one of the coveted prime interviews on a Sunday morning propaganda show.

Julián Castro officially announces 2020 presidential bid (https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/politics/julian-castro-presidential-announcement/index.html)


San Antonio (CNN) — Former secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julián Castro officially announced his presidential bid in San Antonio on Saturday, beginning a campaign that will look to turn his uniquely American immigrant story into a direct repudiation of President Donald Trump.

[Stratovarious]

I appreciate Infowars more than I let on in these posts. However, Alex is considered a benchmark for wackos in certain circles. I noted that the shills on the forum who disparage any article from from Infowars, let stand my claim that CNN and MSNBC are far worse.

Even the "Gay Frogs" memes vs global warming... A chemical in our water supply that has been scientifically proven in the lab to alter tthe anatomy and physiology of an animal is far more dangerous than emitting a natural gas (CO2) that may or may not raise the temperature a 1/2 degree.
Absolutely, how Alex has turned himself in to the laughing stock is actually partly his fault but
his detractors are fully guilty of lying about Alex through omission and ignoring if not hiding
his true accomplishments, and again to anyone that cares, I'm both a huge supporter or have
been of Alex, but at the same time, I have been a huge whiner regarding some of his
relevant hypocrisies, hyperboles, and unfairness, Alex has easily brought as much to
the table as Trump and of course I am still a big Trump fan despite obvious faults.
I appreciate your open mindedness, its rare in political discussions.

[shakey1]

No worries everyone. The establishment put out another candidate, and pretty much any source is spending much more time talking about him, if they talk about Gabbard at all. He even got one of the coveted prime interviews on a Sunday morning propaganda show.

Julián Castro officially announces 2020 presidential bid (https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/12/politics/julian-castro-presidential-announcement/index.html)

Any relation to FC?

[Swordsmyth]

Great point, I realize you probably don't advocate shutting them down literally,
Not by force, but they must be opposed and exposed as our #1 priority.
If they kick over the table first force may become an option though.


but today the most relevant parties and almost fair balance might be the
Republican vs Libertarian parties.
That would certainly be an improvement but Libertarian vs. Constitution Party would be even better.


However a 'no party' system would probably be even better.
I don't see how that would be possible without violate the right to organize and associate for political purposes, the best option would be to alter the system to make many parties viable as opposed to the current system where "3rd" parties are "spoilers".
An end to plurality voting and a shift to a national proportional representation system where each candidate can win multiple votes for the House would work best in my opinion. (EC votes would still be calculated in the old way as if House seats were still assigned to districts in each state)

[oyarde]

Besides being a total fake anti-war candidate, I hear she really hates the gays. She's going nowhere.

Not even top 3 in Iowa

[Swordsmyth]

Any relation to FC?
Ideologically if not genealogically.

[oyarde]

I doubt Kucinich would have voted against repealing the 2001 AUMF, voted to provide military assistance to the Ukraine, or for arming AlQaeda in Syria. Quite simply, she is no Kucinich.
Yep , Denny is an honest ( mostly )gun grabbing commie against foreign spending . She will never be honest.

[Stratovarious]

...
That would certainly be an improvement but Libertarian vs. Constitution Party would be even better.

...
I'll be back in a couple hrs, but I agree, though I pretty much think of them being
fairly synonymous , not that they are (I'm not really studied on that point)
but I feel like I'm both constitutionalist and libertarian, well a little bit of
conservative but not heavily weighted with it.

[DamianTV]

I appreciate Infowars more than I let on in these posts. However, Alex is considered a benchmark for wackos in certain circles. I noted that the shills on the forum who disparage any article from from Infowars, let stand my claim that CNN and MSNBC are far worse.

Even the "Gay Frogs" memes vs global warming... A chemical in our water supply that has been scientifically proven in the lab to alter tthe anatomy and physiology of an animal is far more dangerous than emitting a natural gas (CO2) that may or may not raise the temperature a 1/2 degree.

I need to spread some Rep around first...

[Brian4Liberty]

1084319905116229632
https://www.twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1084319905116229632

Has Gabbard ever been on any InfoWars shows?

And here’s my point. Gabbard is fairly open about her anti-war stance. That would not be a reason for her to avoid certain media outlets or persons. Thus it would be things other than anti-war politics that might be too controversial for her to touch. As unfairly as it has been, Ron has been smeared with holding positions which he does not, or some form of guilt by association, even when there is no real connection at all, like someone deemed objectionable by the MSM is claimed to support Ron. (I.e. Hitler sent a donation to Ron, therefore he is a Nazi).

As the media is already smearing Gabbard in this way (aka they have already said that “members of the alt-right like her”), she may have a reason to avoid such interactions.

Considering how the deep state (FBI) has treated Trump, should a candidate take a telephone call from anyone?

[Anti Globalist]

If Gabbard was smart on 50% of the issues and wasn't a member of the CFR, I'd probably vote for her.

[Todd]

When I'm wrong I'm wrong and I admit that some of this information on Gabbard is disturbing as I have liked alot of what she says over the years regarding this topic of Intervention. but, CFR and bad voting record on intervention, plus avoiding the organizations devoted to non-intervention is a red star cluster and should be considered. I'll give credit to Swordsmyth for pointing this out.

[Sammy]

I agree with Tulsi on Foreign Policy..But she is horrible on domestic issues...

[oyarde]

I was thinking that so far Tulsi Gabbard would be the least likely to move the republican platform away from a more hawkish foreign policy.

That has been my thinking all along .

[oyarde]

When I'm wrong I'm wrong and I admit that some of this information on Gabbard is disturbing as I have liked alot of what she says over the years regarding this topic of Intervention. but, CFR and bad voting record on intervention, plus avoiding the organizations devoted to non-intervention is a red star cluster and should be considered. I'll give credit to Swordsmyth for pointing this out.

Yes , she is the most modern classic example of say one thing do another .

[oyarde]

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand announces 2020 run . Hopefully all the senate dems will run and no longer vote .

[Philhelm]

If you are asking if I would take Cruz or Rubio over her the answer is yes . I wold expect them to be equally bad on foreign and much better on domestic .

I think that some people take the "two wings of the same bird" approach a bit too literally. The Republican Party gargles more cock than a Thailand brothel, but the Democrats are pretty much the Army of Satan at this point. We have no allies in the Democratic Party. There's a reason that Ron and Rand ran as Republicans (unintentional alliteration).

[AdamL]

1083909034082656257

It's over, goys...

[Swordsmyth]

1083909034082656257

It's over, goys...
Maybe Bibi should just tell us who he wants.:sarcasm:

[oyarde]

I think that some people take the "two wings of the same bird" approach a bit too literally. The Republican Party gargles more cock than a Thailand brothel, but the Democrats are pretty much the Army of Satan at this point. We have no allies in the Democratic Party. There's a reason that Ron and Rand ran as Republicans (unintentional alliteration).

Amy of Satan is correct

[AZJoe]

Media already attacking Tulsi Gabbard (http://economiccollapsenews.com/2019/01/12/putin-puppet-media-already-attacking-tulsi-gabbard/?fbclid=IwAR25gVNvA_dMoC6sEOJoXUnjZYpQzUur1-6j_YqJJhV0PM5RqpNttu6dN9Q)

It hasn’t even been a full 24 hours since Representative Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) announced her intentions to run for president in 2020, but the media attack dogs are already out in force. …

she is the only anti-war Democrat in the 2020 field. She opposes regime changes, calls out the military industrial-complex, slams the warmongering, and refuses to toe the party line of bombing Russia, bombing Syria, and bombing any region that Trump doesn’t want to. Because of this, the name-calling has ensued, from Putin Puppet to Assad Agent to Right Wing Lunatic.

Here are some of the tweets from the mainstream media darlings: … [See link] (http://economiccollapsenews.com/2019/01/12/putin-puppet-media-already-attacking-tulsi-gabbard/?fbclid=IwAR25gVNvA_dMoC6sEOJoXUnjZYpQzUur1-6j_YqJJhV0PM5RqpNttu6dN9Q)

Gabbard isn’t the greatest on the domestic front, though she calls out groups like the TSA, but her foreign policy positions are a welcomed improvement from what the traditional Republicans and Democrats stand for.

It is a sad state of affairs when the left embraces the neoconservatives, the military-industrial complex, perpetual war and regime change, and all of the establishment’s talking points. … Liberty Nation’s Mark Angelides writes (https://www.libertynation.com/gabbards-presidential-run-strikes-fear-in-dnc-heart/):
“Gabbard wants troop withdrawal from almost everywhere, and she has opposed Democrat gun control bills on a number of occasions (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-11-gun-bills-tulsi-gabbard-wont-supportwhile_us_57635ad1e4b0092652d744e9?guccounte r=1). Plus, recently retired Republican congressional brawler Trey Gowdy featured as one of Gabbard’s closest colleagues in the House. While these highlights may not be enough to swing a major voting bloc, they could be enough to worry the RNC.” …

[AZJoe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=419VG3ZbPRs

[timosman]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261


Feb. 2, 2019

https://media3.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2019_05/2733811/190129-tulsi-gabbard-cs-425p_0e2335a6e835cd3fd1b72e9c0e955828.fit-2000w.jpg

The Russian propaganda machine that tried to influence the 2016 U.S. election is now promoting the presidential aspirations of a controversial Hawaii Democrat who earlier this month declared her intention to run for president in 2020.

An NBC News analysis of the main English-language news sites employed by Russia in its 2016 election meddling shows Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii, who is set to make her formal announcement Saturday, has become a favorite of the sites Moscow used when it interfered in 2016.

Several experts who track websites and social media linked to the Kremlin have also seen what they believe may be the first stirrings of an upcoming Russian campaign of support for Gabbard.

Since Gabbard announced her intention to run on Jan. 11, there have been at least 20 Gabbard stories on three major Moscow-based English-language websites affiliated with or supportive of the Russian government: RT, the Russian-owned TV outlet; Sputnik News, a radio outlet; and Russia Insider, a blog that experts say closely follows the Kremlin line. The CIA has called RT and Sputnik part of "Russia's state-run propaganda machine."

All three sites celebrated Gabbard's announcement, defended her positions on Russia and her 2017 meeting with Syrian President Bashar Al-Assad, and attacked those who have suggested she is a pawn for Moscow. The coverage devoted to Gabbard, both in news and commentary, exceeds that afforded to any of the declared or rumored Democratic candidates despite Gabbard's lack of voter recognition.

Gabbard was mentioned on the three sites about twice as often as two of the best known Democratic possibilities for 2020, Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, each with 10 stories. Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren had fewer. In each case, the other contenders were treated more critically than Gabbard, with headlines like "'Don't Run': Vermont Paper Begs Bernie Sanders Not to Seek US Presidency in 2020" and "Sexist much? Biden blames 'conservative blonde woman' for shutdown, 'forgets' Ann Coulter's name."

"Her promulgation of positions compatible with Russian geo strategic interests can help them mainstream such discussion in the [Democratic] party," said Alex Stamos, former chief security officer at Facebook and now an NBC News analyst. Gabbard, said Stamos, helps them with all their "lines of attack."

...

[Brian4Liberty]

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261

Yet these “experts” somehow don’t notice that US MSM quite often leaves Gabbard out when discussing Democrat POTUS candidates. You could be forgiven at this point if the only candidates you had heard of so far were Kamela Harris and the woman who Trump calls “Pocahontas”.

[timosman]

Yet these “experts” somehow don’t notice that US MSM quite often leaves Gabbard out when discussing Democrat POTUS candidates. You could be forgiven at this point if the only candidates you had heard of so far were Kamela Harris and the woman who Trump calls “Pocahontas”.

The problem with Tulsi is she's not divisive enough. Even some on this site would vote for her. This can not be tolerated on the left. :cool:

[enhanced_deficit]

Gabbard: Makes me angry when troops used as pawns
Newsroom
(https://www.cnn.com/shows/newsroom)Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), who is running for president in 2020, says she gets angry when troops serving in Syria and Afghanistan are used in "regime change war policies."

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/02/03/tulsi-gabbard-trump-troops-syria-afghanistan-sot-vpx.cnn



Related

Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531107-Trump-‘We-have-to-protect-Israel-’-shifting-again-on-Syria-withdrawal&)

[Swordsmyth]

Gabbard: Makes me angry when troops used as pawns
Newsroom
(https://www.cnn.com/shows/newsroom)Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI), who is running for president in 2020, says she gets angry when troops serving in Syria and Afghanistan are used in "regime change war policies."

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/02/03/tulsi-gabbard-trump-troops-syria-afghanistan-sot-vpx.cnn



Related

Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531107-Trump-‘We-have-to-protect-Israel-’-shifting-again-on-Syria-withdrawal&)


Gabbard uses the troops as pawns.

[AZJoe]

MSM regurgitating Russiagate all over again in smears against Tulsi

https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51217585_1985132118237497_3765144798994890752_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=c76c9c87704ed627bc8121ad60b9f772&oe=5D232BE7 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/russia-s-propaganda-machine-discovers-2020-democratic-candidate-tulsi-gabbard-n964261?fbclid=IwAR0zsrrjNr7SspUeiGVCoUi6YPHmZmOXi N_d9Q_I3KUVcblGtNIiFnv3rSY)

[kona]

Gabbard uses the troops as pawns.
She certainly used them to deliver weapons to ISIS and AQ. We've all seen the vote(s).

But words matter...

[Swordsmyth]

She certainly used them to deliver weapons to ISIS and AQ. We've all seen the vote(s).

But words matter...
I will not argue that it isn't useful to have somebody (even a hypocrite) speak against the wars, that's why she is being attacked.
I just have a compulsion to remind people that she isn't sincere.
Trump hasn't done enough yet but he looks like Dr. Ron compared to her.

[oyarde]

She is currently working for the russians and Isis ? Not surprising , typical hawaii marxist .

[kona]

I will not argue that it isn't useful to have somebody (even a hypocrite) speak against the wars, that's why she is being attacked.
I just have a compulsion to remind people that she isn't sincere.
Trump hasn't done enough yet but he looks like Dr. Ron compared to her.
If I believed she was sincere about anti-war, she would get serious consideration from me. I would think long and hard about accepting her socialist lunacy in exchange for bringing the troops home. I think many libertarians would.

But the probability of her sincerity, by my calculation, is lower than 1996 Carmen Elektra blowing off Dennis Rodman for yours truly.

[AZJoe]

Tucker show on the MSM/Neocon smear attacks on tulsi Gabbard


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq2xCsgQ_6A

[Swordsmyth]

Distinguishing herself in a crowded field of Democrats running for president, Rep. Tulsi Gabbard, D-Hawaii, called Robert Mueller’s decision not to charge Donald Trump with colluding with Russia during the 2016 election “a good thing for our country.”

Gabbard, who lags in 2020 polls behind better-known rivals, said in a video posted to her Twitter account that “now that Mueller has reported that his investigation revealed no such collusion, we all need to put aside our partisan interests and recognize that finding that the president of the United States did not conspire with Russia to interfere with our elections is a good thing for our country.”

Like her rivals, Gabbard said she would like the public to see special counsel’s findings.
“The American people need to be able to see Mueller’s report,” Gabbard said in the video, but she emphasized that “we should all be relieved” Mueller did not recommend charging Trump with a criminal offense.
Explaining her rationale, Gabbard said that “if the president had been indicted for conspiring with Russia to interfere with and affect the outcome of our elections, it would have precipitated a terrible crisis that could have led to civil war.”
Gabbard then called on lawmakers to unite and pass her own legislation that seeks to secure U.S. elections by mandating paper ballots “that would make it impossible for Russia or any other country or rogue actor to come in and manipulate or change the results of our elections.”

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/tulsi-gabbard-calls-mueller-findings-a-good-thing-in-break-from-dem-candidates-203318063.html


That's two points in her favor, it's nowhere near enough but recognizing reality about RM's report and wanting paper ballots are both good.