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James_Madison_Lives
01-11-2019, 04:56 PM
A Discovery Channel re-creation of the head shot to JFK winds up proving the official story is false, despite supposedly proving it is true. Notice the bulk of brain tissue flies forward when hit from behind, just what we'd expect and familiar to every hunter on the planet. But the biggest part of JFK's head - brain matter and a chunk of his skull - wound up on the trunk of the limo, because the shooter was in front of him, not behind him where Oswald was. If Oswald made the shot JFK's brain would have been all over the inside of the windshield.

Anyone can see on the Zapruder film that the president's head snaps back because he was shot from the front. No amount of hasbara mumbo jumbo can change that.



https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4873/39741428893_1d9d08c174_z.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODFnl8e83M


https://youtu.be/iU83R7rpXQY



"When President Kennedy and his wife visited Dallas on November 22, 1963, nearly all of the protections were lifted. Available Texas Guard units were not called into the city and available Dallas policemen were temporarily released from duty. The result? A team of CIA, Cuban exile, and Mafia-related renegades organized a simple military ambush in Dallas and successfully gunned him down. The ambush and its coverup were brazen and astonishingly open." - John Stockwell, highest ranking CIA officer to resign and become a whistleblower


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Lj_bT9BE-8I/hqdefault.jpg

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/4073-john-stockwell-and-the-assassination-of-jfk/



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNJD8xCM8qk

John-John Kennedy had just published a an article by Oliver Stone in George Magazine before he was killed in a plane crash. He did not believe the Warren Commission, and was rumored to be preparing for a run for New York senator. Then maybe president. John-John was likable and super handsome, he would have been unstoppable. Guess who wanted and got that New York seat? Hillary Clinton.

https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/JFK-Junior-Published-Pro-Conspiracy-Interview-of-JFK-Director-Oliver-Stone-Before-Mysterious-Plane-Crash


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dannno
01-11-2019, 05:07 PM
A Discovery Channel re-creation of the head shot to JFK winds up proving the official story is false, despite supposedly proving it is true.

LOL.. not surprised.. that's what happens when you pay scientists to produce a specific outcome as opposed to asking them to find out what the actual truth was.

Marenco
01-11-2019, 08:17 PM
This also corroborates what a lot of eyewitnesses saw that day as well...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w4sQtwWfBo&t=1472s

Stratovarious
01-11-2019, 08:23 PM
I applaud your finding, but it's common knowledge since 1975 + - that there were
multiple shooters, and the warren commission was like the 911 commission .

Anti Globalist
01-11-2019, 08:25 PM
But who was the Babushka lady?

James_Madison_Lives
01-12-2019, 01:55 PM
I applaud your finding, but it's common knowledge since 1975 + - that there were
multiple shooters, and the warren commission was like the 911 commission .

Yep.


"When President Kennedy and his wife visited Dallas on November 22, 1963, nearly all of the protections were lifted. Available Texas Guard units were not called into the city and available Dallas policemen were temporarily released from duty. The result? A team of CIA, Cuban exile, and Mafia-related renegades organized a simple military ambush in Dallas and successfully gunned him down. The ambush and its coverup were brazen and astonishingly open." - John Stockwell, highest ranking CIA officer to resign and become a whistleblower


http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Lj_bT9BE-8I/hqdefault.jpg

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/4073-john-stockwell-and-the-assassination-of-jfk/

James_Madison_Lives
01-12-2019, 03:32 PM
But who was the Babushka lady?

I assume you are being facetious.

Not facetious: John-John Kennedy had just published a an article by Oliver Stone in George Magazine before he was killed in a plane crash. He did not believe the Warren Commission, and was rumored to be preparing for a run for New York senator. Then maybe president. John-John was likable and super handsome, he would have been unstoppable. Guess who wanted and got that New York seat? Hillary Clinton.

https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/JFK-Junior-Published-Pro-Conspiracy-Interview-of-JFK-Director-Oliver-Stone-Before-Mysterious-Plane-Crash


https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/13793281_f520.jpg

https://usercontent1.hubstatic.com/13793360.jpg

Zippyjuan
01-12-2019, 04:26 PM
I assume you are being facetious.

Not facetious: John-John Kennedy had just published a an article by Oliver Stone in George Magazine before he was killed in a plane crash. He did not believe the Warren Commission, and was rumored to be preparing for a run for New York senator. Then maybe president. John-John was likable and super handsome, he would have been unstoppable. Guess who wanted and got that New York seat? Hillary Clinton.

https://soapboxie.com/us-politics/JFK-Junior-Published-Pro-Conspiracy-Interview-of-JFK-Director-Oliver-Stone-Before-Mysterious-Plane-Crash



I believe that was RFK Jr- who loves conspiracies- not John FK Jr. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/12/rfk-kennedy-assassination-warren/1828405/

acptulsa
01-12-2019, 04:50 PM
I believe that was RFK Jr who loves conspiracies- not John FK Jr. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/12/rfk-kennedy-assassination-warren/1828405/

None of them believe that pack of lies.

In fact, nobody does. Save your breath for a lie that's almost somewhat believable--like your silly funny money doesn't prolong and deepen recessions tale.

Surely they're paying you to make only half an ass of yourself. Who could possibly take your funny money screeds seriously if you tell us that old fairy tale about Lee Harvey Oswald and his Magical Dancing Bullet?

Stratovarious
01-12-2019, 06:14 PM
Yep.
Looks interesting , thanks.......

pcosmar
01-12-2019, 06:19 PM
I applaud your finding, but it's common knowledge since 1975 + - that there were
multiple shooters, and the warren commission was like the 911 commission .

I remember watching the film when it was released.

In a Room full of varied and competent people.

Same conclusion. Magic Bullet theory is bunk.

Stratovarious
01-12-2019, 06:52 PM
I remember watching the film when it was released.

In a Room full of varied and competent people.

Same conclusion. Magic Bullet theory is bunk.
YUP, AND Jack Ruby.....what are the odds......

acptulsa
01-12-2019, 07:23 PM
If you're just dying to get that sick feeling in the pit of your stomach, look into how many of the civilians in Dealey Plaza that day were dead within a decade.

What are the odds indeed...

Zippyjuan
01-12-2019, 07:34 PM
If you're just dying to get that sick feeling in the pit of your stomach, look into how many of the civilians in Dealey Plaza that day were dead within a decade.

What are the odds indeed...

Of the estimated 200,000 along the route, how many were dead within the next ten years? What were the causes of death?

There were 1.8 million deaths in the US in the year after Kennedy's death out of a population of 189 million. Figuring that continued at the same rate we get 18 million dead (could be higher as people got older but let's keep it simple). That means about ten percent of the people were dead within ten years. Out of our 200,000 who were along the route, a normal number of deaths would be 19,000 dead.

Was it higher than that?

acptulsa
01-12-2019, 07:38 PM
Of the estimated 200,000 along the route, how many were dead within the next ten years? What were the causes of death?

I'm not talking about the whole route. I'm talking about civilians in Dealey Plaza. And the way I hear it, all of them.

Why? Want to earn your money discrediting something line by line? Great! Knock yourself out:

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v1n2/deaths.html

Zippyjuan
01-12-2019, 07:49 PM
I'm not talking about the whole route. I'm talking about civilians in Dealey Plaza. And the way I hear it, all of them.

Why? Want to earn your money discrediting something line by line? Great! Knock yourself out:

http://www.assassinationresearch.com/v1n2/deaths.html

So everybody at the Plaza was dead within ten years? (not all the people on that list were at Dealey Plaza- I count 60 names over ten years)

acptulsa
01-12-2019, 08:02 PM
So everybody at the Plaza was dead within ten years? (link claims 18 deaths- not thousands)

What link says there were thousands in Dealey Plaza that day, Zippy? They certainly didn't look that numerous on the Zapruder film. Considering the route was changed at the last minute--with no signature--I'm surprised that many went there when the motorcade should have zipped by at fifty. Of course, judging by how many were chatting with George H.W. Bush, we can safely assume no small percentage of them were CIA, not civilians.

That list doesn't claim to name everyone there that day, as you must know (you can read). That's just a list of people considered for subpoena as witnesses. But, of course, misrepresenting the nature of the list is the same sort of misdirection as grossly inflating the number of people in the plaza that day. Or whatever it was you were trying to do with your ( - not thousands) aside.

The murder rate in the U.S. in 1964 was 2/10ths of one percent. The percentage of potential Warren Commission witnesses who were admittedly murdered was a bit higher than that, wouldn't you say? You don't consider that a tiny bit odd?

Instead of trying to obfuscate the facts, why don't you make an effort at seriously debunking them? Hmmm? It was only 55 years ago. Care to show us one single survivor? Just one?

Zippyjuan
01-12-2019, 08:08 PM
If you say so.

So how many actually were at Dealey Plaza and of those how many were dead ten years later? The list answers neither questions you claim raised. It is just people possibly remotely related to the case (a woman who interviewed Oswald for a job several years earlier, his landlady who died in her 80's of a heart attack, somebody who once worked for Jack Ruby).

acptulsa
01-12-2019, 08:31 PM
If you say so.

Good! I'm sure we're all looking forward to hearing who was there that day and is still here to tell us about it!

Get busy!

James_Madison_Lives
01-13-2019, 12:52 PM
So everybody at the Plaza was dead within ten years? (not all the people on that list were at Dealey Plaza- I count 60 names over ten years)

Standard shill attack. It is not just anyone who was in Dealy Plaza but people who tended to have certain vantage points and were willing to speak out. But most significant is you seizing on a tangential area where there is plenty of room to blow smoke rather than answering the plain simple evidence of the spatter direction and the head snap. Shoot a deer hit him in the spine, most spatter is going to fly in the same direction of the bullet. Pure, simple, believe your eyes physics. Which only a Jew lawyer will try to make you doubt.

Wooden Indian
01-13-2019, 05:17 PM
I've met very few people in this life that believed the Oswald Lone Commie Nutter "theory".
Liberals, Conservatives, independents... it hasn't really mattered.

So, watching HOW Zip argues for it... I dont believe Zippy to be a shill or paid man- it doesn't make sense.
He would embrace something like this, at least ride the line, and take the opportunity to look reasonable... but no.

If the forum looks up, he looks down. Walk north, he'll run south, go east... he'll swear on the virtues of west.

Taking the opposite of every position, standing apart from the man next to him at every opportunity, regardless of the circumstance... that's contrarian behavior. He's a goober. A lonely, low self-esteem having, smarter than he gives himself credit for, yet more foolish than he'll ever know.... goober.

Kinda sad, really.

TheCount
01-13-2019, 07:19 PM
It was Ted Cruz's dad.

Winterpdx
01-13-2019, 11:26 PM
Anybody here look into the story of James Files? He spent years in prison for attempted murder of a police officer in the 80’s, and recently got out. Someone in the fbi gave his name to an investigator that was trying to exhume Kennedy’s body, and the guy knows details that only someone who was involved would know. There are a couple long interviews he did while in prison, this is just a short clip:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cxtrFoh3Pao