Trump cedes Syria to Iran: 'They can do what they want there, frankly'

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“They’re pulling people out of Syria, but they can do what they want there, frankly,” he said.

Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, who has claimed that ejecting Iran from Syria is a top administration priority, sat behind the president stone-faced as he spoke.

More at: https://www.jpost.com/International/Trump-cedes-Syria-to-Iran-They-can-do-what-they-want-there-frankly-576190

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(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?65299-Swordsmyth)Trump cedes Syria to Iran: 'They can do what they want there, frankly'



Above if confirmed as non-fakenews will have far reaching implications.
Among other things, such a stance will also drill a hole in following persistent theories/conspiracy theories from segments of Right/Far Right/Left that had claimed that MAGA was a puppet of zionist jewish lobbies, his top pro-Israel/anti-Iran donor Adelson etc.




Sheldon Adelson Is Ready to Buy the Presidency -- NYMag
Sep 9, 2015
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/09/sheldon-adelson-is-ready-to-buy-the-presidency.html


Sheldon Adelson: the casino mogul driving Trump's Middle East policy
The Las Vegas billionaire gave Republicans $82m for the 2016 elections and his views, notably staunch support for Netanyahu’s Israel, are now the official US line
Chris McGreal in Washington
Fri 8 Jun 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/08/sheldon-adelson-trump-middle-east-policy


Trump's top Donor Adelson in 2013: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527899-Soros-vs-Adelson-whose-political-funding-is-better-for-cause-of-liberty)
American-Jewish billionaire blasts Obama over negotiations with Tehran; says US should show Iran nuclear capabilities.
By Maya Shwayder, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT
October 24, 2013



https://admin62b4b.davidicke.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Untitled-102-2.jpg (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?524826-quot-No-Preconditions-quot-Trump-Will-Meet-Iran-s-Rouhani-quot-Anytime-They-Want-quot&p=6696195&viewfull=1#post6696195)

https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2018/10/repost.png?w=503&h=531




OP news if confirmed as non-fakenews also raises the risk of MAGA getting same labels/treatment as was given to Obama by some Israel First folks because he was perceived as not doing enough to defend Israel from Iran's threats:




Netanyahu's brother-in-law: Obama is an anti-Semite (http://www.haaretz.com/news/netanyahu-s-brother-in-law-obama-is-an-anti-semite-1.264903)
Haaretz
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's brother-in-law Dr. Hagai Ben-Artzi on Wednesday called U.S. President Barack Obama an anti-Semite in ...

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0609/IsraelprotestsignImage15.jpg


Ben Shapiro: Obama White House is ‘borderline a Jew-hating administration’
July 11, 2014 by Tom Tillison

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/07/...tration-130914 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/07/11/ben-shapiro-obama-white-house-is-borderline-a-jew-hating-administration-130914)


Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama (http://mondoweiss.net/2012/01/publisher-of-the-atlanta-jewish-times-suggests-mossad-should-assassinate-obama.html)
Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012
John Cook reports at Gawker (http://gawker.com/5877892/): Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html). Either way, problem solved!
Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html)):







Related

Lindsey Graham’s description of Trump’s Syria withdrawal plan sounds suspiciously like a plan to stay in Syria

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuer/files/styles/medium/public/201805/screen_shot_2018-05-14_at_1.05.50_pm.png
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529786-MAGA-s-immediate-Syria-withdrawal-annoucement-was-technically-not-fakenews&p=6727983&viewfull=1#post6727983)Senator Graham , second from left, in Israel with like minded Senators and Senior White House advisors

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“They’re pulling people out of Syria, but they can do what they want there, frankly,” he said.

Trump’s national security adviser, John Bolton, who has claimed that ejecting Iran from Syria is a top administration priority, sat behind the president stone-faced as he spoke.



It is now obvious, Bolton is not commander in Chief.
The commander in Chief is President Donald J. Trump.
And it is now obvious his advisors serve him, and not visa versa.

Two and two don't add up here.. how can a subordinate over-rule Commander-in-Chief?
Anyo supporter of GOP-Adelson wing here or anyone who understands their ideology cares to explain how this apparent flip-flop happened that risks painting MAGA as a feeble minded leader?


Contradicting Trump, Bolton says no withdrawal from Syria until ISIS destroyed, Kurds’ safety guaranteed

(Reuters)
By Karoun Demirjian
January 6 at 4:16 PM
President Trump’s national security adviser sought to reassure allies Sunday that the United States would be methodical about withdrawing troops from Syria, promising that the pullout would not occur until the Islamic State was fully eradicated from the country and Turkey could guarantee the safety of Kurdish fighters who have fought alongside American personnel.
John Bolton’s comments, reported by the Associated Press (https://apnews.com/e03de193e25e4fc19377ce99f947aa45?utm_source=Twitte r&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow), contradict Trump’s mid-December promise to bring troops home from Syria “now,” an announcement that surprised allies and advisers, sparked an outcry from lawmakers, and prompted the resignation of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. It is also the clearest statement yet from any of the president’s surrogates about how they plan to slow the implementation of his pullout plans.
“There are objectives that we want to accomplish that condition the withdrawal,” Bolton said while speaking to reporters in Jerusalem, on a trip intended to allay Israeli leaders’ concerns about Trump’s announcement. “The timetable flows from the policy decisions that we need to implement.”
Trump touched off global confusion and panic when he announced via Twitter on Dec. 19 that he would order the withdrawal of the 2,000 troops stationed in Syria to help fight the Islamic State. “Our boys, our young women, our men, they’re all coming back and they’re coming back now. We won,” Trump said at thet time.

Days later, while visiting U.S. troops in Iraq after Christmas, Trump told reporters traveling with him that he would deny any request from the military to extend the mission in Syria. “They said again, recently, ‘Can we have more time?’ ” Trump said of U.S. generals. “I said: ‘Nope. You can’t have any more time. You’ve had enough time.’ We’ve knocked them out. We’ve knocked them silly.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/bolton-promises-no-troop-withdrawal-from-syria-until-isis-contained-kurds-safety-guaranteed/2019/01/06/ee219bba-11c5-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html







Bolton wins "Defender of Israel" award from Zionist Organization of America (ZOA), the foreign interest lobbying group that help get him appointed. (https://www.jta.org/2018/11/05/news-opinion/zoa-gives-john-bolton-defender-israel-award)

https://www.mintpressnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Special-Features-Bolton-Declares-article-picture-6-INSTRUCTIONS-CROP-OUT-THE-PIC-OF-THE-MAN-ON-THE-FAR-RIGHT-IN-PHOTO_edited.jpg

Why he hasn't been given Defender of America or at least Freedom Medal since he's part of America-First regime?

[Swordsmyth]

Two and two don't add up here.. how can a subordinate over-rule Commander-in-Chief?
Anyo supporter of GOP-Adelson wing here or anyone who understands their ideology cares to explain how this apparent flip-flop happened that risks painting MAGA as a feeble minded leader?


Contradicting Trump, Bolton says no withdrawal from Syria until ISIS destroyed, Kurds’ safety guaranteed

(Reuters)
By Karoun Demirjian
January 6 at 4:16 PM
President Trump’s national security adviser sought to reassure allies Sunday that the United States would be methodical about withdrawing troops from Syria, promising that the pullout would not occur until the Islamic State was fully eradicated from the country and Turkey could guarantee the safety of Kurdish fighters who have fought alongside American personnel.
John Bolton’s comments, reported by the Associated Press (https://apnews.com/e03de193e25e4fc19377ce99f947aa45?utm_source=Twitte r&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow), contradict Trump’s mid-December promise to bring troops home from Syria “now,” an announcement that surprised allies and advisers, sparked an outcry from lawmakers, and prompted the resignation of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis. It is also the clearest statement yet from any of the president’s surrogates about how they plan to slow the implementation of his pullout plans.
“There are objectives that we want to accomplish that condition the withdrawal,” Bolton said while speaking to reporters in Jerusalem, on a trip intended to allay Israeli leaders’ concerns about Trump’s announcement. “The timetable flows from the policy decisions that we need to implement.”
Trump touched off global confusion and panic when he announced via Twitter on Dec. 19 that he would order the withdrawal of the 2,000 troops stationed in Syria to help fight the Islamic State. “Our boys, our young women, our men, they’re all coming back and they’re coming back now. We won,” Trump said at thet time.

Days later, while visiting U.S. troops in Iraq after Christmas, Trump told reporters traveling with him that he would deny any request from the military to extend the mission in Syria. “They said again, recently, ‘Can we have more time?’ ” Trump said of U.S. generals. “I said: ‘Nope. You can’t have any more time. You’ve had enough time.’ We’ve knocked them out. We’ve knocked them silly.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/bolton-promises-no-troop-withdrawal-from-syria-until-isis-contained-kurds-safety-guaranteed/2019/01/06/ee219bba-11c5-11e9-b6ad-9cfd62dbb0a8_story.html








Why he hasn't been given Defender of America or at least Freedom Medal since he's part of America-First regime?
I predict Bolton won't last much longer.

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I predict Bolton won't last much longer.

Hope you're right but he's winner of prestigious ZOA award (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?520646-BREAKING-Trump-To-Appoint-John-Bolton-as-National-Security-Advisor&p=6707237&viewfull=1#post6707237), so it might not be as easy for MAGA as resigning/firing non-ZOA-award-winners like Mattis/McMaster. MAGA tends to like winners, he had even praised Obama for winning 2012 elections.

[Stratovarious]

Above if confirmed as non-fakenews will have far reaching implications.
Among other things, such a stance will also drill a hole in following persistent theories/conspiracy theories from segments of Right/Far Right/Left that had claimed that MAGA was a puppet of zionist jewish lobbies, his top pro-Israel/anti-Iran donor Adelson etc.




Sheldon Adelson Is Ready to Buy the Presidency -- NYMag
Sep 9, 2015
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/09/sheldon-adelson-is-ready-to-buy-the-presidency.html


Sheldon Adelson: the casino mogul driving Trump's Middle East policy
The Las Vegas billionaire gave Republicans $82m for the 2016 elections and his views, notably staunch support for Netanyahu’s Israel, are now the official US line
Chris McGreal in Washington
Fri 8 Jun 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/08/sheldon-adelson-trump-middle-east-policy


Trump's top Donor Adelson in 2013: US should drop atomic bomb on Iran (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?527899-Soros-vs-Adelson-whose-political-funding-is-better-for-cause-of-liberty)
American-Jewish billionaire blasts Obama over negotiations with Tehran; says US should show Iran nuclear capabilities.
By Maya Shwayder, JERUSALEM POST CORRESPONDENT
October 24, 2013




OP news if confirmed as non-fakenews also raises the risk of MAGA getting same labels/treatment as was given to Obama by some Israel First folks because he was perceived as not doing enough to defend Israel from Iran's threats:




Netanyahu's brother-in-law: Obama is an anti-Semite (http://www.haaretz.com/news/netanyahu-s-brother-in-law-obama-is-an-anti-semite-1.264903)
Haaretz
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's brother-in-law Dr. Hagai Ben-Artzi on Wednesday called U.S. President Barack Obama an anti-Semite in ...

http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0609/IsraelprotestsignImage15.jpg


Ben Shapiro: Obama White House is ‘borderline a Jew-hating administration’
July 11, 2014 by Tom Tillison

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/07/...tration-130914 (http://www.bizpacreview.com/2014/07/11/ben-shapiro-obama-white-house-is-borderline-a-jew-hating-administration-130914)


Publisher of the ‘Atlanta Jewish Times’ suggests Mossad should assassinate Obama (http://mondoweiss.net/2012/01/publisher-of-the-atlanta-jewish-times-suggests-mossad-should-assassinate-obama.html)
Adam Horowitz on January 20, 2012
John Cook reports at Gawker (http://gawker.com/5877892/): Andrew Adler, the owner and publisher of the Atlanta Jewish Times, a weekly newspaper serving Atlanta’s Jewish community, devoted his January 13, 2012 column to the thorny problem of the U.S. and Israel’s diverging views on the threat posed by Iran. Basically Israel has three options, he wrote: Strike Hezbollah and Hamas, strike Iran, or “order a hit” on Barack Obama (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html). Either way, problem solved!
Here’s how Adler laid out “option three” in his list of scenarios facing Israeli president Benjamin Netanyahu (the column, which was forwarded to us by a tipster, isn’t online, but you can read a copy here (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/284979-ajt.html)):







Related

Lindsey Graham’s description of Trump’s Syria withdrawal plan sounds suspiciously like a plan to stay in Syria

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net/p/kuer/files/styles/medium/public/201805/screen_shot_2018-05-14_at_1.05.50_pm.png
(http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529786-MAGA-s-immediate-Syria-withdrawal-annoucement-was-technically-not-fakenews&p=6727983&viewfull=1#post6727983)Senator Graham , second from left, in Israel with like minded Senators and Senior White House advisors

Obama was the worst president in our history, but Shapiro is an opportunistic shill.

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I love what Trump said, but I wish he had just kept that one within our little circle, he
should have just posted it here.
:frog:

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Trump is natural product of Obama policies and Obama in turn was a natural product of Bush policies. Looking at bigger picture, Bush does not come out looking any better than Obama.

[UWDude]

I predict Bolton won't last much longer.

He will last just as long as Trump needs him.

[Swordsmyth]

He will last just as long as Trump needs him.
Which I hope is not much longer.

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I predict Bolton won't last much longer.


To be fair, just before MAGA folded you had also predicted 'there is no end in sight of gov shutdown'.


Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531107-Trump-‘We-have-to-protect-Israel-’-shifting-again-on-Syria-withdrawal&)

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To be fair, just before MAGA folded you had also predicted 'there is no end in sight of gov shutdown'.


Trump: ‘We have to protect Israel,’ shifting again on Syria withdrawal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?531107-Trump-‘We-have-to-protect-Israel-’-shifting-again-on-Syria-withdrawal&)


I don't claim to be prophetic and the shutdown is coming back soon, Trump even withdrew his compromise offer so you can't really call it a fold that he decided to demonstrate that the Demoncrats were not negotiating in good faith when they said they would negotiate if the government reopened.

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I don't claim to be prophetic and the shutdown is coming back soon, Trump even withdrew his compromise offer so you can't really call it a fold that he decided to demonstrate that the Demoncrats were not negotiating in good faith when they said they would negotiate if the government reopened.

Wait, are you implying MAGA was negotiating in good faith but Dems were not (on Wall for DACA deal)?
If I recall correctly thought you had earlier suggested that MAGA was not making that deal offer in good faith.. not same exact words.

[Swordsmyth]

Wait, are you implying MAGA was negotiating in good faith but Dems were not (on Wall for DACA deal)?
If I recall correctly thought you had earlier suggested that MAGA was not making that deal offer in good faith.. not same exact words.
Did I say he was negotiating in good faith?
He wasn't but neither were they and he is exposing that.
They haven't negotiated in good faith since before I was born and it is long past time our side gave them fair play turnabout and exposed them in all their duplicity.