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Swordsmyth
01-02-2019, 04:09 PM
US border agents have reportedly fired tear gas into Mexico to push back against what one official called a "violent mob" of migrants as they rushed the US-Mexico border near Tijuana.
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Reuters reports (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-immigration-border/u-s-agents-fire-tear-gas-into-mexico-at-violent-mob-near-border-idUSKCN1OV1TG?il=0) that clouds of the noxious gas could be seen wafting up from around the fence at the border. One migrant picked up a canister and threw it back into U.S. territory.
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More than 150 Central American migrants approached an area of the border in Tijuana in the Playas neighborhood near the beach late on Monday.

Migrants said they thought security measures might be relaxed due to the New Year’s holiday.
U.S. security personnel fired tear gas into Mexico after midnight as some migrants prepared to climb a border fence, according to the Reuters witness. During a second attempt, migrants began to pass youths and children over the razor wire along the fencing to the U.S. side.
U.S. Department of Homeland Security spokeswoman Katie Waldman called the group “a violent mob” and said they had thrown projectiles at agents who responded with “the minimum force necessary to defend themselves.”
“Congress needs to fully fund the border wall,” Waldman said in a statement.
U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) said in a statement the gas was aimed upwind of people throwing rocks on the Mexican side who obstructed agents from helping the children being passed over razor wire.
CBP said most of the migrants attempting to cross returned to Mexico while 25 people, including two teenagers, were detained.


More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-02/us-fires-tear-gas-mexico-violent-mob-migrants-rush-border

enhanced_deficit
01-02-2019, 05:27 PM
OP, assuming you're not agnostic on this issue.. should MAGA show these videos to Dems if they protested against such treatment of brown people?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522238-US-embassy-in-Jerusalem-opens-Mon-Ivanka-arrives-Bachmann-apologizes-for-Jews-conversion-rem&p=6628676&viewfull=1#post6628676


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRdKk00Uj5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRdKk00Uj5Y




He wants to keep racking up debt to kill brown people.

I'll side with Trump because I don't have TDS.

Swordsmyth
01-02-2019, 05:32 PM
OP, assuming you're not agnostic on this issue.. should MAGA show these videos to Dems if they protested against such treatment of brown people?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?522238-US-embassy-in-Jerusalem-opens-Mon-Ivanka-arrives-Bachmann-apologizes-for-Jews-conversion-rem&p=6628676&viewfull=1#post6628676


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK9LWhsd3QI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRdKk00Uj5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRdKk00Uj5Y
We should withdraw all support from Israel and everyone else over there and remove our noses from their business.

The situation is complex and neither side is right but Israel has the same right to defend its borders that we do.

You just can't stop yourself from dragging Israel into threads it has nothing to do with, can you?

enhanced_deficit
01-02-2019, 05:40 PM
Question was about invoking that US tax payers funded wall model for MAGA's discussion with Dems (and not meant to debate US foreign policy in depth on US foreign spending, there are other threads for that).

Are you trying to say invoking that US funded model wall by MAGA team will not be appropriate to address Dems crticism of this gas event?



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Swordsmyth
01-02-2019, 05:48 PM
Question was about invoking that US tax payers funded wall model for MAGA's discussion with Dems (and not meant to debate US foreign policy in depth on US foreign spending, there are other threads for that).

Are you trying to say invoking that US funded model wall by MAGA team will not be appropriate to address Dems crticism of this gas event?



Trump invokes 'Israel's wall' in tense exchange over border security
timesofisrael.com
Dec 11, 2018 - It's not clear which wall Trump was referring to, as Israel has built or is in the midst of building walls and high-tech fences on several of its ...

Trump points to Israeli wall as shutdown seen lasting into 2019
6 days ago - Senators fail to come together on border security budget battle and will not meet again until January 2; president claims Israeli example proves ...

Trump Cites Israel's 'Wall' as Model. The Analogy Is Iffy.
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Dec 17, 2018 - Israelis in large part view the American leader's goal of curbing illegal immigration as rational and necessary.
I'm saying that videos of Israel shooting protestors are irrelevant when discussing the defense of our southern border, their issues are complex and politicized.

enhanced_deficit
01-02-2019, 05:51 PM
I'm saying that videos of Israel shooting protestors are irrelevant when discussing the defense of our southern border, their issues are complex and politicized.

Ok.

Is invoking Israel Wall while defending US Wall project is also irrelevant or that is relevant?

Swordsmyth
01-02-2019, 05:54 PM
Ok.

Is invoking Israel Wall while defending US Wall project is also irrelevant or that is relevant?
It is more relevant.

enhanced_deficit
01-02-2019, 06:03 PM
It is more relevant.

Ok, now we have more clarity on how to invoke US tax payers funded foreign Walls and border defenses mechanisms while staying logically consistent.
More progress.

Swordsmyth
01-02-2019, 06:04 PM
Ok, now we have more clarity on how to invoke US tax payers funded foreign Walls and border defenses mechanisms while staying logically consistent.
More progress.
:rolleyes:

AuH20
01-02-2019, 06:05 PM
A wall isn't subject to the error or biases of humans. Build it!

timosman
01-02-2019, 06:12 PM
Will Trump be taxing the drugs coming across the border? DHS admits they want to have 30% of the business. :D