Dems introduced bill requiring Mexico to pay for the wall

[Origanalist]

Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas introduced legislation forbidding construction of a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border — unless Mexico pays for it.

Lee introduced the Protect American Taxpayers and Secure Border Act into the House on Dec. 19, which would “prohibit taxpayer funds from being used to build a wall between Mexico and the United States,” and further require that any barrier constructed on the southern border “be paid for using funds provided by the Government of Mexico.”

She referred the bill to the House Committee on the Judiciary and the Committee on Homeland Security, and already has four cosponsors: Democratic Reps. Karen Bass of California, Marcia Fudge of Ohio, Joaquin Castro of Texas and Yvette Clarke of New York.
https://dailycaller.com/2018/12/27/jackson-lee-border-wall-mexico/

[Origanalist]

LOL.

[Brian4Liberty]

:D

[AuH20]

He could do it in a second by claiming the remittances, but they would howl like mad.

[Origanalist]

If too many Mexicans go to California will it tip over???

[tommyrp12]

"Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee" The title makes complete sense now.

[RJB]

Although I lean more Republican, I can not help but tip my hat to anyone with a sense of irony.

[PAF]

Forcing another sovereign country to pay for a wall that anti-liberty Americans do not want to pay for or cannot/refuse to fund.

Very Democratic, don’t you think?

But then, forcing Mexico to pay for it, on American soil even, along with forced unionization in the upcoming USMCA sets everything up very nicely for the North American Union.

SMGDH

[TheCount]

He could do it in a second by claiming the remittances, but they would howl like mad.
"Claiming the remittances" huh? I think that you mean "stealing people's money."

[dannno]

"Claiming the remittances" huh? I think that you mean "stealing people's money."

If they taxed them at 10%, they could pay for the wall in 2 years and they would still probably be paying less than your average citizen in taxes.

[TheCount]

If they taxed them at 10%, they could pay for the wall in 2 years and they would still probably be paying less than your average citizen in taxes.

Who is they?

[Superfluous Man]

I would love to see this bill passed and Trump put in the position of either signing or vetoing it.

[dannno]

Who is they?

The wall people?

[dannno]

I would love to see this bill passed and Trump put in the position of either signing or vetoing it.

I'd rather see the troops come home and the border secured.

[Zippyjuan]

Trump promised Mexico would pay for it. It won't cost you a thing- it will be free! Instead of stealing your money, he will steal from somebody else.

Should Canada charge the US if they want to build a border wall with us?

[dean.engelhardt]

So all of a sudden they want to protect the taxpayers. I did not see that coming!:eek:

[Schifference]

Trump should encourage sanctuary cities to take in as many via direct flight as they want but they have to be cared for and need to remain in sanctuary territory.

No wall needed. Because sanctuary cities love and will care for these poor people.

[Superfluous Man]

So all of a sudden they want to protect the taxpayers. I did not see that coming!:eek:

It is really weird how this wall thing has caused partisans to undermine their own professed ideologies. The left ought to be eating up a money spending scheme like this. It would have fit right into Obama's stimulus bill that they supported and Republicans opposed.

[Superfluous Man]

Trump should encourage sanctuary cities to take in as many via direct flight as they want but they have to be cared for and need to remain in sanctuary territory.

No wall needed. Because sanctuary cities love and will care for these poor people.

That's a great idea. Take it entirely out of federal purview and just let each city decide if they want to welcome them or not. I expect that most American cities would opt not to take on the burden of enforcing immigration laws. As for caring for them, the cities could accomplish that just by doing nothing at all and letting the free market work.

[RJB]

No wall needed. Because sanctuary cities love and will care for these poor people.People don't appreciate the necessity of growing the slums in a 1st world country. Blight and crime adds to the character of a nation.

[Danke]

Have Mexico pay for the US taxpayer funded government services the illegal Mexicans take here too.

[Anti Federalist]

People don't appreciate the necessity of growing the slums in a 1st world country. Blight and crime adds to the character of a nation.

Embrace the diversity, it is our strength.

Disregard the happiest town in the world that has a homogeneous population that shares the same customs, heritage and ideals. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/world/europe/finland-happiness-social-services.html)

[TheCount]

The wall people?

The people who you think should be taxed more.

[dannno]

The people who you think should be taxed more.

The behind the wall people?

[enhanced_deficit]

There is already speculation that MAGA might not sign it even if it passed Congress. Senior White House advisor and rising star of GOP-Adelson wing, Jared Kushner, might also oppose it and MAGA has great respect for his bipartisan advice.


Related

Mexico's President gives Jared Kushner their nation’s greatest award (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528658-All-Trump-voters-are-racist&p=6714982&viewfull=1#post6714982)

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/97fee2f03ad98b1a62f5cf35444816789cf95bd3/c=310-0-5259-3712/local/-/media/2018/11/30/DetroitNews/B99725479Z.1_20181130105237_000_GE229H97E.2-0.jpg?width=534&height=401&fit=crop

The Order of the Aztec Eagle, issued by Mexico to foreigners who make a significant contribution to the country
November 30, 2018


WALL FUNDING OFF TABLE
USA GIVING $4.8 BILLION TO MEXICO
https://www.drudgereport.com/i/logo9.gif

https://www.bing.com/th?id=OIP.I8cE8RcbKq6sfUfhxIQTxAHaE8&w=289&h=187&c=7&o=5&pid=1.7

[Zippyjuan]

Embrace the diversity, it is our strength.

Disregard the happiest town in the world that has a homogeneous population that shares the same customs, heritage and ideals. (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/24/world/europe/finland-happiness-social-services.html)

Happiest Cities in the US: http://mentalfloss.com/article/508417/national-geographic-ranks-25-happiest-cities-country

1. Boulder, Colorado
2. Santa Cruz-Watsonville, California
3. Charlottesville, Virginia
4. Fort Collins, Colorado
5. San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles-Arroyo Grande, California
6. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, California
7. Provo-Orem, Utah
8. Bridgeport-Stamford, Connecticut
9. Barnstable Town, Massachusetts
10. Anchorage, Alaska
11. Naples-Immokalee-Marco Island, Florida
12. Santa Maria-Santa Barbara, California
13. Salinas, California
14. North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton, Florida
15. Urban Honolulu, Hawaii
16. Ann Arbor, Michigan
17. San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, California
18. Colorado Springs, Colorado
19. Manchester-Nashua, New Hampshire
20. Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, California

#2 is Santa Cruz.


Ethnicity
Ethnically, Santa Cruz is predominately White and Hispanic with the following break down as of 2015:
White: 58.4%
Hispanic: 33.4%
Black or African American: 1.4%
Native American or Alaska Native: 1.8%
Asian: 4.8%
Native Hawaiian and other Pacific Islander: (0.2%)

http://www.santacruzchamber.org/demographics.html

#3 Charlottesville VA. http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/charlottesville-population/


Close to 20% of Charlottesville’s inhabitants are black, 6.4% are Asian and over 5% are Hispanic or Latino of any race. The biggest age group is 25 to 44, which makes up almost 29% of the population. Over 9% of the population is at least 65 years old, while nearly 15% are under 18. About 27% of the population lives below the federal property line. About 20% of residents in the city hold a graduate or professional degree. Charlottesville’s crime rate exceeds the national average.

#6 San Jose http://worldpopulationreview.com/us-cities/san-jose-population/


According to the 2010 census, the racial composition of San Jose was:

White: 42.8% (non-Hispanic: 28.7%)
Asian: 32.0% (10.4% Vietnamese, 6.7% Chinese, 5.6% Filipino, 4.6% Indian, 1.2% Korean, 1.2% Japanese, 0.3% Cambodian, 0.2% Thai, 0.2% Pakistani, 0.2% Laotian)
African American: 3.2%
Native American: 0.9%
Pacific Islander: 0.4%
Other races: 15.7%
Two or more races: 5.0%
Hispanic or Latino of any race: 33.2%

[Origanalist]

The behind the wall people?

https://d3thpuk46eyjbu.cloudfront.net/uploads/production/7630/1525442744/original/tuskenraiders.jpeg?1525442744

[oyarde]

If too many Mexicans go to California will it tip over???

California tipped over some time ago .

[TheCount]

The behind the wall people?

Americans, then. An entirely new kind of tax too.

[Zippyjuan]

Americans, then. An entirely new kind of tax too.

Or we could just borrow the money- let the kids and grand kids pay for it.

[dannno]

Americans, then. An entirely new kind of tax too.

Well a lot of them don't pay taxes, sooo....

[TheCount]

Well a lot of them don't pay taxes, sooo....

Sooo if they want the amazing freedom that a wall will bring, they'll need to start paying taxes.

[kpitcher]

I would love to see this bill passed and Trump put in the position of either signing or vetoing it.

I'm shocked it took this long for a Dem to do it. It seems like a lot of the outlandish things Trump has said should have been dealt with in this fashion. The Dems could claim they were trying to work with the president. The republicans voting would show they don't really think Trump is one of them.

[enhanced_deficit]

I would love to see this bill passed and Trump put in the position of either signing or vetoing it.

No, that would put MAGA in a very tough spot.
This bill must be stopped from moving forward. Perhaps MAGA can call in favors from Pelosi and Mitch.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEAH5RRNBoA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEAH5RRNBoAhttps://s.abcnews.com/images/Politics/abc_trump_mexico_pay_mt_160904_4x3_992.jpg

[TheCount]

I'm shocked it took this long for a Dem to do it. It seems like a lot of the outlandish things Trump has said should have been dealt with in this fashion. The Dems could claim they were trying to work with the president. The republicans voting would show they don't really think Trump is one of them.

It does seem like a fantastic idea. Now that the House will have a Dem majority, they could put every stupid thing that comes out of Trump's mouth on a bill and hand it to the Senate with a smile.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Happiest Cities in the US: http://mentalfloss.com/article/508417/national-geographic-ranks-25-happiest-cities-country

1. Boulder, Colorado
2. Santa Cruz-Watsonville, California
3. Charlottesville, Virginia
4. Fort Collins, Colorado
5. San Luis Obispo-Paso Robles-Arroyo Grande, California
6. San Jose-Sunnyvale-Santa Clara, California
7. Provo-Orem, Utah
8. Bridgeport-Stamford, Connecticut
9. Barnstable Town, Massachusetts
10. Anchorage, Alaska
11. Naples-Immokalee-Marco Island, Florida
12. Santa Maria-Santa Barbara, California
13. Salinas, California
14. North Port-Sarasota-Bradenton, Florida
15. Urban Honolulu, Hawaii
16. Ann Arbor, Michigan
17. San Francisco-Oakland-Hayward, California
18. Colorado Springs, Colorado
19. Manchester-Nashua, New Hampshire
20. Oxnard-Thousand Oaks-Ventura, California






Your survey only polled metro areas, not all places in the US. It says nothing about comparing metro to rural areas.

Naturally, one city out of the 191 largest is going to be tops.

[euphemia]

Do those idiots not realize we have already been paying for the wall since before 2006? Where is it?

[Pauls' Revere]

Its a set piece. They introduce it and when they have the majority in January they will vote it down and it'll be used for propaganda. = my thoughts.

[Zippyjuan]

Do those idiots not realize we have already been paying for the wall since before 2006? Where is it?

650 miles already exist.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/security/systems/images/fence-20091229.jpg

Trump's new goal is not a complete wall. He keeps cutting back on what he wants. He used to say he wants the entire 2000 miles fenced off and wanted 25 billion to get it started. Now he is asking for $5 billion (and willing to accept less so he can at least declare victory and "promise fulfilled") for just 500 miles- including repair/ replace of existing wall.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/security/systems/images/fence-20091229.jpg


Trump moves goalposts on border wall, says 500 miles of replacement fence would be good enough


WASHINGTON — Locked in a showdown with Congress over border wall funding, President Donald Trump moved the goalposts on Tuesday by suggesting that he would be satisfied with funding to renovate existing barrier — not just add barrier to parts of the border that aren't already fenced.

And he set a goal of 500 to 550 miles of barrier — new or replacement — in place by the 2020 election, 22 months away.

Prior to an unusual Christmas morning session with reporters in the Oval Office, on Day 4 of a partial government shutdown that hinges on his demand for wall funding, Trump had never publicly stated how many miles of barrier he wants.

This was also the first time he had said that replacing old fencing would count, in his mind, toward his central campaign promise of building a "big beautiful wall" on the U.S.-Mexico border.

"It's my hope to have this done, completed — all 500 to 550 miles — to have it either renovated or brand new by election time," he said Tuesday. He had spent the last week trying to soften opposition to the wall by describing it in new terms: as a "steel slat barrier" or even a "fence," a term and a design approach that he had long shunned as ineffective.



He indicated that he may be willing to budge from his $5 billion demand.

"It's complicated," he said, noting that Congress had authorized $25 billion for homeland security, though not for the wall. "We want the wall money to be increased."

[Swordsmyth]

650 miles already exist.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/security/systems/images/fence-20091229.jpg

The quality varies greatly and in 12 years they should have completed it.

[Superfluous Man]

Why is this bill not moving forward? I see no reason for it not to pass with broad bipartisan support. And now, in the midst of this shutdown, is the perfect time to pass this as the way to end the impasse.

Not that I want the shutdown to be over personally. But the politicians do.

[AuH20]

https://i.redd.it/6f052rj9dg821.png