View Full Version : About 500 migrants released by ICE Wednesday, over 1,000 released past few days
RonZeplin
12-27-2018, 01:49 PM
Catch & Release sanctuary, with a "Court Order" to Disappear. Sanctuary nation USA.
MAGA? Not! Scofflaw administration at the top, President Trump is failing to enforce the law, and deport illegal aliens as required by law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbwKjhAJ1aM
EL PASO, Texas (KFOX14) — About 518 migrants are expected to be released by U.S Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Wednesday, according Annunciation House director Ruben Garcia.
That makes more than 1,000 migrants released in the past three days.
The migrants will be dropped off at undisclosed shelters across El Paso.
Garcia said they need relatives or sponsor families to buy bus or plane tickets for their migrant relatives as soon as possible to free up space at the shelter.
He said following the death of the Guatemalan boy in custody, U.S. Customs and Border Patrol is working to release families faster.
Shelter locations including various churches have stepped up. All the way from Las Cruces to Mesilla and El Paso, the immigrants are expected to be bused and dropped off.
https://kfoxtv.com/news/local/about-500-migrants-released-by-ice-wednesday-over-1000-released-past-few-days
Swordsmyth
12-27-2018, 01:53 PM
Catch & Release sanctuary, with a "Court Order" to Disappear. Sanctuary nation USA.
MAGA? Not! Scofflaw administration at the top, President Trump is failing to enforce the law, and deport illegal aliens as required by law.
The law requires this, Trump is doing more than past administrations to stop the invasion but the courts and Congress are in the way.
Superfluous Man
12-27-2018, 01:55 PM
President Trump is failing to enforce the law, and deport illegal aliens as required by law.
The law does not require that any more than it requires that police give tickets to everyone who speeds.
RonZeplin
12-27-2018, 02:34 PM
The law does not require that any more than it requires that police give tickets to everyone who speeds.
The supreme law of the land the US Constitution requires that the federal government "protect the States against invasion", also the President swears an oath to uphold the law and the the constitution, both as Chief Executive & commander in chief of the Armed Forces. He has all the authority that he needs to enforce the law ignoring bad court decisions if necessary, as well as defend the nations borders with military force.
Judges have no power to enforce their edicts. Enforcement falls to the executive branch of government.
Swordsmyth as well. The courts don't have the enforcement authority to be "in the way". The president has the necessary authority to enforce the law, and defend the nation. DO IT!
Swordsmyth
12-27-2018, 02:43 PM
The supreme law of the land the US Constitution requires that the federal government "protect the States against invasion", also the President swears an oath to uphold the law and the the constitution, both as Chief Executive & commander in chief of the Armed Forces. He has all the authority that he needs to enforce the law ignoring bad court decisions if necessary, as well as defend the nations borders with military force.
Judges have no power to enforce their edicts. Enforcement falls to the executive branch of government.
@Swordsmyth (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?u=65299) as well. The courts don't have the enforcement authority to be "in the way". The president has the necessary authority to enforce the law, and defend the nation. DO IT!
He would be impeached within a week and his replacement would be worse.
Superfluous Man
12-27-2018, 02:51 PM
The supreme law of the land the US Constitution requires that the federal government "protect the States against invasion"
Even it I granted your dubious assumption about what constitutes invasion, no, the US Constitution does not require that. It merely says that Congress shall have the power to do so, not that it is required. The Constitution, when interpreted according to its original intent, contains very little in the way of requiring the federal government to do anything. The rules it imposes on the federal government are generally ones that limit what it may do, not ones that tell it what it must do.
Furthermore, in assigning Congress that power, that very section of the Constitution stipulates that it may only exercise it in such ways as provide for common defense and general welfare of the American people. Using such a power to support the cause of one subset of the American people who want fewer immigrants to suppress the freedoms of another subset of the American people who want more immigrants is not providing for the common defense or the general welfare, and thus violates the very section of the Constitution to which you allude.
Swordsmyth
12-27-2018, 02:59 PM
Even it I granted your dubious assumption about what constitutes invasion, no, the US Constitution does not require that. It merely says that Congress shall have the power to do so, not that it is required. The Constitution, when interpreted according to its original intent, contains very little in the way of requiring the federal government to do anything. The rules it imposes on the federal government are generally ones that limit what it may do, not ones that tell it what it must do.
Furthermore, in assigning Congress that power, that very section of the Constitution stipulates that it may only exercise it in such ways as provide for common defense and general welfare of the American people. Using such a power to support the cause of one subset of the American people who want fewer immigrants to suppress the freedoms of another subset of the American people who want more immigrants is not providing for the common defense or the general welfare, and thus violates the very section of the Constitution to which you allude.
Article 4 - The States
Section 4 - Republican Government
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The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican (https://usconstitution.net/glossary.html#REPUBLIC) Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion;
What part of "SHALL" don't you understand?
And those who want more immigrants don't have a right to them because those immigrants will take away my liberty.
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