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enhanced_deficit
12-27-2018, 09:19 AM
Who will take care of security of our closest allies Israel, Saudi dictatorship etc if US troops left Iraq/Syria & the region ?


Iraqi lawmakers demand U.S. troops withdraw after Trump's surprise visit

President Donald Trump visited troops at the al-Asad Air Base on Christmas but failed to meet with Iraqi officials

Dec. 27, 2018 / 7:09 AM EST
By Associated Press
BAGHDAD — Iraqi lawmakers are seizing on President Donald Trump's surprise visit to demand U.S. forces leave the country.
Politicians from both sides of Iraq's political divide are calling on parliament to vote to expel U.S. troops. Approximately 5,000 U.S. troops are stationed in Iraq as part of the coalition against the Islamic State group.
Trump's previously unannounced trip came at a time of change in the region following the president's announcement earlier this month (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-troops-leave-syria-president-trump-declares-victory-over-n949806) that he will withdraw American troops from Syria — a heavily criticized move that prompted the resignation of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/defense-secretary-jim-mattis-leaving-his-post-trump-announces-n950616).

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/iraqi-lawmakers-demand-u-s-troops-withdraw-after-trump-s-n952226




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AW: Trump Admits U.S. Troops in Middle East are for Israel
Published November 28th, 2018
https://www.albawaba.com/news/trump-admits-us-troops-middle-east-israel-1219252

UWDude
12-27-2018, 09:53 AM
Cool. Trump just might do it.

shakey1
12-27-2018, 10:00 AM
https://wallpapercave.com/wp/5lc36B5.png

Origanalist
12-27-2018, 10:04 AM
https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/31925695/do-it-now-what-are-you-waiting-for-.jpg

enhanced_deficit
12-27-2018, 10:12 AM
Elsewhere:

U.S. withdrawal from Syria hurts Israel and helps Erdogan, Shaked says

While "the US President is a great friend of Israel," Shaked said, "this step does not help Israel and strengthens Erdogan, who is an antisemite."

By JERUSALEM POST STAFF
December 23, 2018 08:43
Justice Minister Ayelet Shaked called US President Donald Trump's decision to withdraw American troops from Syria "bad for Israel" and strengthens Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in an interview with Army Radio on Sunday morning.





Israel confounded, confused by Syria withdrawal, Mattis resignation

By Franco Ordoņez
December 21, 2018 04:51 PM,
Updated December 23, 2018 08:27 AM

President Donald Trump shakes hands with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu at the United Nations General Assembly, Wednesday, Sept. 26, 2018, at U.N. Headquarters. Evan Vucci AP Photo

WASHINGTON The abrupt resignation of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has left Israel, America’s closest ally in the Middle East, confounded as it comes to grips with the even greater implications of the U.S. military withdrawal from Syria that prompted Mattis’s departure.

Combined with the departures of Chief of Staff John Kelly and Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley, Israeli officials are scrambling to determine who is left in the White House who can convince President Donald Trump to think of Israel before taking such drastic security moves, as Mattis successfully did in the past, U.S. and Israeli officials said.
“There is no question that Israeli officials are concerned about the U.S. pulling out,” said Dan Shapiro, U.S. ambassador to Israel in the Obama administration. “It was done without any meaningful consultation with them.”

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/national-security/article223431805.html

UWDude
12-27-2018, 11:01 AM
Poor Israel. All we do is give them billions of dollars a year.
We are a nation of anti-semtic mini-hitlers.
We need to be giving them trillions.
#AshamedToBeAmerican

nikcers
12-27-2018, 12:15 PM
I don't think they understand what Trump meant when he said he was going to take the oil. They are going to be in for a rough surprise.

Swordsmyth
01-21-2019, 10:54 PM
In recent weeks, pro-Iran parties have organised protests to demand an accelerated US troop withdrawal while affiliated media outlets published footage of alleged US reinforcements in Iraq's restive west and north.
The debate is heating up in parliament as well.
Last week a lawmaker demanded Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi provide a written explanation for the ongoing US military presence in Iraq and a timeframe for their stay.
MPs are also drafting a law that would set a deadline for a US withdrawal, according to Mahmud al-Rubaie of the Sadiqun bloc, one of the political groups working on the text.
"We categorically reject the presence of foreign troops in Iraq," Rubaie told AFP.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/iraq-political-wrangling-spawns-debate-over-us-troops-035729194.html

enhanced_deficit
01-22-2019, 05:27 AM
In recent weeks, pro-Iran parties have organised protests to demand an accelerated US troop withdrawal while affiliated media outlets published footage of alleged US reinforcements in Iraq's restive west and north.
The debate is heating up in parliament as well.
Last week a lawmaker demanded Prime Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi provide a written explanation for the ongoing US military presence in Iraq and a timeframe for their stay.
MPs are also drafting a law that would set a deadline for a US withdrawal, according to Mahmud al-Rubaie of the Sadiqun bloc, one of the political groups working on the text.
"We categorically reject the presence of foreign troops in Iraq," Rubaie told AFP.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/iraq-political-wrangling-spawns-debate-over-us-troops-035729194.html

Just thinking out of box here, to counter such pro-Iran initiatves by Iraq for US-exit, should pro-Israel lobbies n US lobby POTUS to stay in Iraq to counter Iranian influence since Israel currently doesn't have lobbies in Iraq? W Bush had invited Iran into Iraq to get their help in getting rid of Saddam.

Other option could be to follow Syria model in Iraq also; US should plan Iraq exit and Israeli military takes ownership of handling Iranian influence in Iraq?

Breaking: Israel airstrikes against 'Iranian' targets in Syria (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530550-Breaking-Israel-airstrikes-against-Iranian-targets-in-Syria&)


Although highly influential Bolton or Adelson might veto US Iraq exit plan even if America-First POTUS wanted to exit Iraq.






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Telegraph: Thanks to Blair/Bush, Christianity facing extinction in Iraq (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?267482-Telegraph-Thanks-to-Blair-Bush-Christianity-facing-extinction-in-Iraq&)

Stratovarious
01-22-2019, 05:38 AM
Who will take care of security of our closest allies Israel, Saudi dictatorship etc if US troops left Iraq/Syria & the region ?


...
E D
Is this sarcasm?
Just asking.

enhanced_deficit
01-22-2019, 05:44 AM
Well part of it was sarcasm but part of it was also realism/presenting interests and objectives of deep pocket lobbies that fund many politicians of both parties. We can't be complete purists and completely ignore their interests and influence on America-First leaders.

Stratovarious
01-22-2019, 05:46 AM
http://factcheckingturkey.com/domestic-politics/turkey-s-president-erdogan-anti-semite-489
Turkey's Erdogan, is often characterized as being anti semite.
-
If there is hatred between Muslims and Jews, in my view it is
largely due to deeds not just ethnicity, however both groups are
two sides of the same coin;
Narcissistic , self inclusive, racists, that believe that they
are God's chosen, destined to rule, and carry out their own
renditions of God's plan for humanity.

Stratovarious
01-22-2019, 06:02 AM
None of what takes place in the Middle East is our business, time to
take care of our own and stop meddling and manipulating, we are responsible
for a million civilian deaths in Iraq, if we want to continue our role as
world police, and butchers in foreign lands, we need to amend the constitution.

enhanced_deficit
01-22-2019, 06:17 AM
Turkey's Erdogan, is often characterized as being anti semite.
-
If there is hatred between Muslims and Jews, in my view it is
largely due to deeds not just ethnicity, however both groups are
two sides of the same coin;


Well Erdogan, though lately has become MAGA's friend on Syria policy allegedly, he has been making very strong statements against Jewish state since end of Iraqi freedom war/Gaza war.


Erdogan again likens Israel to Nazi Germany, says it commits ‘cultural genocide’

At Jerusalem conference in Istanbul, Turkish president says it’s not anti-Semitic to call out Israel: ‘No one can stop us from calling a spade a spade’
By Raphael Ahren 15 December 2018


Tend to agree witth the part that religion is often the cover story for other material/tribal interests,deeds based conflicts etc. Muslims and Jews have a lot in common and appear to be cousins looking at various religious rituals, eye for an eye concept ( as opposed to Christianity's turn the other cheek). There was a shocking poll while ago claiming that US Jews feared Evangelical Christians more than Muslims.

Incidentally, in mideast, Arab Christians have been the biggest victim of recent wars:

Telegraph: Thanks to Blair/Bush, Christianity facing extinction in Iraq (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?267482-Telegraph-Thanks-to-Blair-Bush-Christianity-facing-extinction-in-Iraq&)




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US evangelicals' warning to Trump over Syria exit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530539-The-evangelicals-warning-to-Trump&)

Stratovarious
01-22-2019, 06:43 AM
Well Erdogan, though lately has become MAGA's friend on Syria policy allegedly, he has been making very strong statements against Jewish state since end of Iraqi freedom war/Gaza war.




Tend to agree witth the part that religion is often the cover story for other material/tribal interests,deeds based conflicts etc. Muslims and Jews have a lot in common and appear to be cousins looking at various religious rituals, eye for an eye concept ( as opposed to Christianity's turn the other cheek). There was a shocking poll while ago claiming that US Jews feared Evangelical Christians more than Muslims.

Incidentally, in mideast, Arab Christians have been the biggest victim of recent wars:

Telegraph: Thanks to Blair/Bush, Christianity facing extinction in Iraq (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?267482-Telegraph-Thanks-to-Blair-Bush-Christianity-facing-extinction-in-Iraq&)




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US evangelicals' warning to Trump over Syria exit (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530539-The-evangelicals-warning-to-Trump&)
Good points, I was unaware of the Arab Christian plight.
-
Israel has been playing out of a two card deck for the last 74
years;
ANTI SEMITE
HOLOCAUST
It's really a pair of aces though , one that often tends
to be viewed as beating a Royale Flush.
:frog:

-
We have all been persecuted, every race, color, and creed.
Today it's almost fashionable to persecute Christians,
and Genocide of White Farmers in Africa is ignored.
The jews butchered 60 million Christians during the
Bolshevik Revolution, the Japanese were worse than
Hitler, to the Chinese WWII , Slavery of whites historically
dwarfs US slavery of Blacks, we have to reexamine
just who we are appointing or could we say 'anointing'
to write history for us. 'Two Cards'

shakey1
01-22-2019, 08:11 AM
None of what takes place in the Middle East is our business, time to
take care of our own and stop meddling and manipulating, we are responsible
for a million civilian deaths in Iraq, if we want to continue our role as
world police, and butchers in foreign lands, we need to amend the constitution.

I'm sure there are plenty of hawks in DC that would be willing to do just that.

Stratovarious
01-22-2019, 08:38 AM
I'm sure there are plenty of hawks in DC that would be willing to do just that.
:frog:
Right, I better not give them any ideas......

Swordsmyth
02-04-2019, 01:49 AM
Iraqi President Barham Salih said on Monday that President Donald Trump did not ask Iraq's permission for U.S. troops stationed there to "watch Iran."Speaking at a forum in Baghdad, Salih was responding to a question about Trump's comments to CBS about how he would ask troops stationed in Iraq to "watch" Iran.
U.S. troops in Iraq are there as part of an agreement between the two countries with a specific mission of combating terrorism, Salih said, and that they should stick to that.

"Don't overburden Iraq with your own issues," Salih said. "The U.S. is a major power ... but do not pursue your own policy priorities, we live here."

"It is of fundamental interest for Iraq to have good relations with Iran" and other neighboring countries, Salih said.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/iraqi-president-says-trump-did-not-ask-permission-065407875.html

enhanced_deficit
02-04-2019, 12:20 PM
15 Years After U.S. Invasion, Some Iraqis Are Nostalgic For Saddam Hussein Era

Jane Arraf
The Shorja market in central Baghdad, bustling in early April, was targeted in attacks in 2007.

Sabah Arar/AFP/Getty Images

Gen. Nijm al-Jabouri at Saddam Hussein's former palace compound in Mosul, where he is in charge of Mosul security. In 2003, he thought the new Iraq would be orderly, liberal and secular. "We thought we would breathe freedom, we would become like Europe," he says. Instead, he says, "We returned to the Dark Ages."
Jane Arraf/NPR

"As an officer, I had a dream to travel outside of Iraq," he says, sitting in a garden in Saddam Hussein's former palace complex in Mosul. "Sometimes I would go to Ibrahim Khalil gate just to see outside Iraq — to see whether the ground outside Iraq was different from inside Iraq."

For almost every Iraqi, the past 15 years have been full of unimaginable twists and turns. Jabouri is still an Iraqi general, but now he oversees security in Mosul and controls Saddam's former compound. His first trip outside his country wasn't to neighboring Turkey but to the United States.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/30/605240844/15-years-after-u-s-invasion-some-iraqis-are-nostalgic-for-saddam-hussein-era




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EXCLUSIVE: British army permitted shooting of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan
Soldiers who served in Basra in 2007 say they were told they could shoot anyone holding a phone or a shovel, or acting in any way suspiciously
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-british-army-permitted-shooting-civilians-iraq-and-afghanistan

shakey1
02-04-2019, 01:57 PM
15 Years After U.S. Invasion, Some Iraqis Are Nostalgic For Saddam Hussein Era

Jane Arraf
The Shorja market in central Baghdad, bustling in early April, was targeted in attacks in 2007.

Sabah Arar/AFP/Getty Images

Gen. Nijm al-Jabouri at Saddam Hussein's former palace compound in Mosul, where he is in charge of Mosul security. In 2003, he thought the new Iraq would be orderly, liberal and secular. "We thought we would breathe freedom, we would become like Europe," he says. Instead, he says, "We returned to the Dark Ages."
Jane Arraf/NPR

"As an officer, I had a dream to travel outside of Iraq," he says, sitting in a garden in Saddam Hussein's former palace complex in Mosul. "Sometimes I would go to Ibrahim Khalil gate just to see outside Iraq — to see whether the ground outside Iraq was different from inside Iraq."

For almost every Iraqi, the past 15 years have been full of unimaginable twists and turns. Jabouri is still an Iraqi general, but now he oversees security in Mosul and controls Saddam's former compound. His first trip outside his country wasn't to neighboring Turkey but to the United States.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/30/605240844/15-years-after-u-s-invasion-some-iraqis-are-nostalgic-for-saddam-hussein-era




Related

EXCLUSIVE: British army permitted shooting of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan
Soldiers who served in Basra in 2007 say they were told they could shoot anyone holding a phone or a shovel, or acting in any way suspiciously
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-british-army-permitted-shooting-civilians-iraq-and-afghanistan

He was a colorful character.

http://www.screamingpickle.com/members/SaddamInsane/images/gunblast.jpg

Swordsmyth
02-06-2019, 05:58 PM
Iraq's most senior Shiite cleric on Wednesday joined a chorus of Iraqi politicians and clerics criticizing recent statements by President Donald Trump in which he said U.S. troops should stay in Iraq to keep an eye on neighboring Iran.Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani said Iraq aspires to have "good and balanced relations" with all of its neighbors "based on mutual interests and without intervention in internal affairs."
Iraq "rejects being a launching pad for harming any other country," he said during a meeting with U.N. Iraq envoy Jeanine Hennis-Plasschaert at the cleric's base in Najaf.
Both Iraq's president and prime minister have hit back at Trump's statements to U.S. media this week stating that U.S. troops should stay at a base in Iraq so that America can "watch Iran."


U.S. forces withdrew from Iraq in 2011, but returned in 2014 at the invitation of the government to help battle the Islamic State group after it seized vast areas in the north and west of the country, including Iraq's second largest city, Mosul. A U.S.-led coalition provided crucial air support as Iraqi forces regrouped and drove IS out in a costly three-year campaign.
Now, after defeating IS militants in their last urban bastions, Iraqi politicians and militia leaders are increasingly speaking out against the continued presence of U.S. forces on Iraqi soil. Some Iraqi lawmakers are working on a draft bill calling for the withdrawal of the more than 5,000 U.S. troops from the country.
Trump first said he wants to keep troops in Iraq as a base to strike at IS in Syria, then said the troops were needed to monitor Iran — comments that are likely to give momentum to opponents of the U.S. presence in Iraq.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/top-iraqi-cleric-rejects-trumps-statements-us-troops-114045215.html

Congress can't complain if the throw us out.;)

The same tactic may be being used in Korea:


South Korea says troop talks deadlocked as U.S. demands 'unacceptable' funding increase (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530621-South-Korea-says-troop-talks-deadlocked-as-U-S-demands-unacceptable-funding-increase)

Swordsmyth
03-06-2019, 04:52 PM
https://twitter.com/RubaAlHassani/status/1103137604680192000

1103137604680192000

Hat Tip: GoldenEquity

acptulsa
03-06-2019, 04:56 PM
https://twitter.com/RubaAlHassani/status/1103137604680192000

1103137604680192000

Hat Tip: GoldenEquity

Oh, he could start Gulf War III and people would still deny he's just another Bush.

Swordsmyth
03-06-2019, 05:01 PM
Oh, he could start Gulf War III and people would still deny he's just another Bush.
Or he could get us kicked out of Iraq on purpose so that the Neocons can't attack him for pulling out.

acptulsa
03-06-2019, 05:18 PM
Or he could get us kicked out of Iraq on purpose so that the Neocons can't attack him for pulling out.

What would stop them from attacking him for pulling out? Did they suddenly develop respect for other nations' sovereignty?

Sorry, that move ain't ready for 3D chess.

Swordsmyth
03-06-2019, 05:20 PM
What would stop them from attacking him for pulling out? Did they suddenly develop respect for other nations' sovereignty?
They must give it some lip service and he can say that we have enough to deal with already in all the other places they want us to intervene.

acptulsa
03-06-2019, 05:24 PM
They must give it some lip service ...

LOL

You act like Republican voters are capable of holding Republican politicians to Republican principles. Never happens, and the only reasons neocons exist is because they know this.

unknown
03-08-2019, 02:13 AM
15 Years After U.S. Invasion, Some Iraqis Are Nostalgic For Saddam Hussein Era

Jane Arraf
The Shorja market in central Baghdad, bustling in early April, was targeted in attacks in 2007.

Sabah Arar/AFP/Getty Images

Gen. Nijm al-Jabouri at Saddam Hussein's former palace compound in Mosul, where he is in charge of Mosul security. In 2003, he thought the new Iraq would be orderly, liberal and secular. "We thought we would breathe freedom, we would become like Europe," he says. Instead, he says, "We returned to the Dark Ages."
Jane Arraf/NPR

"As an officer, I had a dream to travel outside of Iraq," he says, sitting in a garden in Saddam Hussein's former palace complex in Mosul. "Sometimes I would go to Ibrahim Khalil gate just to see outside Iraq — to see whether the ground outside Iraq was different from inside Iraq."

For almost every Iraqi, the past 15 years have been full of unimaginable twists and turns. Jabouri is still an Iraqi general, but now he oversees security in Mosul and controls Saddam's former compound. His first trip outside his country wasn't to neighboring Turkey but to the United States.

https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2018/04/30/605240844/15-years-after-u-s-invasion-some-iraqis-are-nostalgic-for-saddam-hussein-era




Related

EXCLUSIVE: British army permitted shooting of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan
Soldiers who served in Basra in 2007 say they were told they could shoot anyone holding a phone or a shovel, or acting in any way suspiciously
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/exclusive-british-army-permitted-shooting-civilians-iraq-and-afghanistan


ROE my fucking ass.

AngryCanadian
03-08-2019, 02:38 AM
15 Years After U.S. Invasion, Some Iraqis Are Nostalgic For Saddam Hussein Era


"We thought we would breathe freedom, we would become like Europe," he says. Instead, he says, "We returned to the Dark Ages."

In Five years from now we would be hearing the same from the Libyans about gaddafi to.

enhanced_deficit
03-11-2019, 07:02 PM
Based on recent media reports, withdrawl will not be approved by final deciders.

Swordsmyth
04-06-2019, 06:15 PM
Iran’s supreme leader urged Iraqi leaders to take the necessary steps to end the U.S. military presence in Iraq quickly during a meeting with prime minister Abdul Mahdi today.
“You should take necessary measures so that the U.S. will withdraw its troops from Iraq as soon as possible,” Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said according to the Iranian leader’s website.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-06/khamenei-tells-iraqi-pm-u-s-must-withdraw-as-soon-as-possible

Swordsmyth
05-18-2019, 04:35 PM
‘Iraqi parl. to vote on bill banning US military presence’
http://ptv.io/2jaT



...

enhanced_deficit
10-23-2019, 07:55 PM
https://wallpapercave.com/wp/5lc36B5.png




That was last year but alpha leader MAGA puts America's interests first, not of Iraqi lawmakers ; he just sent more troops there.




US troops leaving Syria will go to Iraq, says Pentagon chief
4 hours ago
US troops pass through Tal Tamer before a convoy of ambulances arrives from Ras al-Ain All US troops withdrawing from northern Syria are expected to be relocated to western Iraq, Secretary of Defense Mark Esper confirmed.
Mr Esper told reporters that, under current plans, about 1,000 soldiers would be redeployed to help stop the resurgence of Islamic State (IS).
President Donald Trump has previously pledged to bring US troops home.

bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50117765






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Amos Harel
Oct 18, 2019 6:09 AM
As the eyes of many in the Middle East are focused on northern Syria, a special note should be given to what was said in Tehran. After a mysterious incident off the coast of Saudi Arabia, it took the Iranians time to reach a conclusion as to what happened there. But on Wednesday, a member of the National Security and Foreign Policy Commission in Tehran said that Israel and Saudi Arabia were involved in the attack on the Iranian oil tanker that came after a series of similar attacks by Iran on tankers making their way to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. In other words, the Iranian account with Israel is still open – and sooner or later an attempt might be made to close it.


US, Israeli efforts put Iraq’s stability on the line ; 104 killed in Iraq unrest, 6000 wounded (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539959-US-Israeli-efforts-put-Iraq’s-stability-on-the-line-104-killed-in-Iraq-unrest-6000-wounded&)

Alleged IDF airstrikes targeting Iranian-backed paramilitaries have heightened divisions between the Shiite groups and Iraqi government
20 September 2019

BAGHDAD (AP) — As the United States and Israel escalate their push to contain Iranian influence in the Middle East, countries in Tehran’s orbit are feeling the heat.
Pro-Iranian militias across Lebanon, Syria and Iraq are being targeted, both with economic sanctions and precision airstrikes hitting their bases and infrastructure. This is putting the governments that host them in the crosshairs of an escalating confrontation and raising the prospect of open conflict.


Mideast Troops Surge 2019:
MAGA indulged in his "inner Sheldon Adelson" and sent 14,000 more troops to Mideast from May 2019 to Oct 2019 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540247-Standing-with-allies-US-sending-thousands-of-more-troops-to-mideast-total-to-reach-14-000&)

Swordsmyth
10-23-2019, 08:03 PM
That was last year but alpha leader MAGA puts America's interests first, not of Iraqi lawmakers ; he just sent more troops there.




bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-50117765






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From Iraq to the Red Sea, Iran-Israel Battleground Now Spans Entire Mideast (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540247-Standing-with-allies-US-sending-thousands-of-more-troops-to-mideast-total-to-reach-14-000&p=6874850&viewfull=1#post6874850)
Amos Harel
Oct 18, 2019 6:09 AM
As the eyes of many in the Middle East are focused on northern Syria, a special note should be given to what was said in Tehran. After a mysterious incident off the coast of Saudi Arabia, it took the Iranians time to reach a conclusion as to what happened there. But on Wednesday, a member of the National Security and Foreign Policy Commission in Tehran said that Israel and Saudi Arabia were involved in the attack on the Iranian oil tanker that came after a series of similar attacks by Iran on tankers making their way to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. In other words, the Iranian account with Israel is still open – and sooner or later an attempt might be made to close it.


US, Israeli efforts put Iraq’s stability on the line ; 104 killed in Iraq unrest, 6000 wounded (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?539959-US-Israeli-efforts-put-Iraq’s-stability-on-the-line-104-killed-in-Iraq-unrest-6000-wounded&)

Alleged IDF airstrikes targeting Iranian-backed paramilitaries have heightened divisions between the Shiite groups and Iraqi government
20 September 2019

BAGHDAD (AP) — As the United States and Israel escalate their push to contain Iranian influence in the Middle East, countries in Tehran’s orbit are feeling the heat.
Pro-Iranian militias across Lebanon, Syria and Iraq are being targeted, both with economic sanctions and precision airstrikes hitting their bases and infrastructure. This is putting the governments that host them in the crosshairs of an escalating confrontation and raising the prospect of open conflict.


Mideast Troops Surge 2019:
MAGA indulged in his "inner Sheldon Adelson" and sent 14,000 more troops to Mideast from May 2019 to Oct 2019 (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540247-Standing-with-allies-US-sending-thousands-of-more-troops-to-mideast-total-to-reach-14-000&)

Trump knew they were against having our troops there that's why he moved the troops from Syria there so they couldn't stay:

The Iraqi government's efforts to expel what it increasingly considers an 'unauthorized' American occupation have just escalated dramatically, as Baghdad is now urging the United Nations to expel US troops from sovereign Iraqi territory.
As we noted previously, Baghdad officials rejected a Pentagon plan to relocate some 1,000 US troops now exiting Syria to US bases in western Iraq, saying the additional troops (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/no-approval-stay-iraq-slams-pentagon-plans-relocate-us-troops-there-syria) had "no approval to stay".
On Wednesday Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi announced he's taking “all international legal measures” over the entry of U.S. troops from neighboring Syria, again underscoring the Pentagon had no authorization for such a move, and that the troops are "not allowed" to remain in the country, but only "transition" on their way to other US bases in Kuwait and Qatar.


“We have (already) issued an official statement saying that and are taking all international legal measures. We ask the international community and the United Nations to perform their roles in this matter,” Abdul Mahdi’ said.
He said that any American forces coming from Syria have four weeks to leave Iraq, as reported by the AP (https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/iraqi-defense-minister-gives-us-troops-4-weeks-to-leave-iraq/).

The firm 'red line' assertion came immediately after the prime minister met with US Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who arrived earlier in the day on an unannounced visit, apparently to negotiate a compromise.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...forces-country (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iraq-urges-un-boot-unauthorized-us-forces-country)

American forces coming from Syria have four weeks to leave Iraq




Well played, DJTvsg, Well played.

Swordsmyth
10-24-2019, 12:31 AM
Trump knew they were against having our troops there that's why he moved the troops from Syria there so they couldn't stay:

The Iraqi government's efforts to expel what it increasingly considers an 'unauthorized' American occupation have just escalated dramatically, as Baghdad is now urging the United Nations to expel US troops from sovereign Iraqi territory.
As we noted previously, Baghdad officials rejected a Pentagon plan to relocate some 1,000 US troops now exiting Syria to US bases in western Iraq, saying the additional troops (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/no-approval-stay-iraq-slams-pentagon-plans-relocate-us-troops-there-syria) had "no approval to stay".
On Wednesday Prime Minister Adel Abdul Mahdi announced he's taking “all international legal measures” over the entry of U.S. troops from neighboring Syria, again underscoring the Pentagon had no authorization for such a move, and that the troops are "not allowed" to remain in the country, but only "transition" on their way to other US bases in Kuwait and Qatar.


“We have (already) issued an official statement saying that and are taking all international legal measures. We ask the international community and the United Nations to perform their roles in this matter,” Abdul Mahdi’ said.
He said that any American forces coming from Syria have four weeks to leave Iraq, as reported by the AP (https://nypost.com/2019/10/23/iraqi-defense-minister-gives-us-troops-4-weeks-to-leave-iraq/).

The firm 'red line' assertion came immediately after the prime minister met with US Defense Secretary Mark Esper, who arrived earlier in the day on an unannounced visit, apparently to negotiate a compromise.

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...forces-country (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/iraq-urges-un-boot-unauthorized-us-forces-country)

American forces coming from Syria have four weeks to leave Iraq




Well played, DJTvsg, Well played.
Hopefully Trump can get them to tell us to remove the rest of our troops soon.

enhanced_deficit
01-02-2020, 12:23 AM
There are talks of sending more troops to Iraq now.


December 30, 2019

Israel’s Netanyahu Praises ‘Important’ US Strikes Against Iran-Backed Militia in Iraq and Syria

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo meets with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Lisbon, Portugal, Dec. 4, 2019. Photo: Patricia de Melo Moreira / Pool via Reuters.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu spoke by phone with US Mike Pompeo on Monday, a day after American air strikes targeted several bases in Iraq and Syria belonging to a Tehran regime-backed group.
A statement published by Netanyahu’s office said the prime minister “commended” Pompeo on “the important US action against Iran and its proxies in the region.”
According to an Axios report, the strikes — which came in response to the killing of a US civilian contractor in a rocket attack on an Iraqi military base — were “welcomed enthusiastically” by the Israeli government.
algemeiner.com/2019/12/30/israels-netanyahu-praises-important-us-strikes-against-iran-backed-militia-in-iraq-and-syria/


Jan 2, 2019
Pompeo: No plans to evacuate embassy or pull US troops out of Iraq (http://video.foxnews.com/v/6119047264001)
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo reacts to attack on U.S. Embassy, looks ahead to next steps in Iraq and the rest of the Middle East.

enhanced_deficit
07-28-2020, 03:33 PM
Flashback, unfortuantely full article seems to be behind a paywall, will try to find from another sourrce.

Pat Buchanan: If Baghdad wants us out, let's go!

By Patrick J. Buchanan
FIFTEEN YEARS after the U.S. invaded Iraq to turn Saddam Hussein’s dictatorship into a beacon of democracy, Iraq’s Parliament, amid shouts of “Death to America!” voted to expel all U.S. troops from the country.

unionleader.com/opinion/columnists/pat-buchanan-if-baghdad-wants-us-out-let-s-go/article_433ceeea-1c08-5da0-a7d8-14bdda563ce6.html

Swordsmyth
07-28-2020, 04:19 PM
U.S. Vows to Reduce Iraq Troop Presence (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?547152-U-S-Vows-to-Reduce-Iraq-Troop-Presence)