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Brian4Liberty
12-04-2018, 03:11 PM
船eep State at Work': Rand Paul Demands All Lawmakers Receive CIA Briefing on Khashoggi


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3pyAgFkMWk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m3pyAgFkMWk

Brian4Liberty
12-04-2018, 03:12 PM
Sen. Rand Paul on Deep State (C-SPAN)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lur7lf2VzRk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lur7lf2VzRk

Brian4Liberty
12-04-2018, 03:16 PM
Senator Rand Paul Demands Briefing from CIA Director


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZD-opMMWic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZD-opMMWic

Swordsmyth
12-04-2018, 04:59 PM
I know Rand is using the current buzz words but it bugs me that he said "that is not DEMOCRACY" and he didn't even add "that isn't a Republic".

Brian4Liberty
12-04-2018, 09:24 PM
Lindsey Graham hints at not supporting the war on Yemen. Don’t get too excited. Khashoggi worked for the Washington Neocon Post, was possibly an undercover operative, and the neoconservative media was outraged when he was killed. Graham is still standard neoconservative here.


Edit: And what Graham appears to be suggesting is regime change in Saudi Arabia. A standard neocon “solution”.
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Sen. Graham on CIA briefing (C-SPAN)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ0RYUQIuY4

enhanced_deficit
12-05-2018, 01:38 AM
Good call.




I know Rand is using the current buzz words but it bugs me that he said "that is not DEMOCRACY" and he didn't even add "that isn't a Republic".

What Netanyahu chum dicattor did to arrange torture/dismembering/killing of a US paper's journalist for exercising free speech does not bother you at all but wording of Rand's statement does invoke your protest.
Stunning moral compass you have.

If some butchering mideast dictator had done same to some Israeli or UK paper's journalist and Rand had used same statement workding, would you still have taken same stance as Netanyahu allied handful folks in neocons wing of media who tried to blames the victim/muddy up investigation efforts instead of calling to hold accountable the butchers who orchestrated such punishment for free speech?



Related

Congressman accuses Kushner of orchestrating killing of Khashoggi (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528030-Congressman-Joaquin-Castro-accuses-Kushner-of-orchestrating-killing-of-Khashoggi&)

Swordsmyth
12-05-2018, 01:43 AM
Good call.





What Netanyahu chum dicattor did to arrange torture/dismembering/killing of a US paper's journalist for exercising free speech does not bother you at all but wording of Rand's statement does invoke your protest.
Stunning moral compass you have.

If some butchering mideast dictator had done same to some Israeli or UK paper's journalist and Rand had used same statement workding, would you still have taken same stance as Netanyahu allied handful folks in neocons wing of media who tried to blames the victim/muddy up investigation efforts instead of calling to hold accountable the butchers who orchestrated such punishment for free speech?



Related

Congressman accuses Kushner of orchestrating killing of Khashoggi (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528030-Congressman-Joaquin-Castro-accuses-Kushner-of-orchestrating-killing-of-Khashoggi&)

I despise MBS and I despise whoever killed Khashoggi, I also despised Khashoggi.

My quibble with Rand is mere trivia.

But you just enjoy being a jerk.

Schifference
12-05-2018, 03:57 AM
And what would be Rand's opinion on this issue if he was one of the elite chosen to be in the know? Would he be saying things like I cannot discuss what is classified but you should ask them yourself?

donnay
12-05-2018, 09:05 AM
Well if the CIA is supposed to brief the senate it should be the whole senate not a chosen few. I agree.

Why is it everyone in DC is so worried about Khashoggi and yet, over two years ago Seth Rich was murdered and nothing has been done about him and he was an American.

Brian4Liberty
12-05-2018, 10:25 AM
And what would be Rand's opinion on this issue if he was one of the elite chosen to be in the know? Would he be saying things like I cannot discuss what is classified but you should ask them yourself?

I believe his main point is that the Congress votes on issues related to this, thus they should know the details. If it’s classified, they can’t talk to the media or public about it. Most of it could probably be unclassified, but they would rather not admit to the extent of their (and others) surveilence of the world.

Swordsmyth
12-05-2018, 04:10 PM
And what would be Rand's opinion on this issue if he was one of the elite chosen to be in the know? Would he be saying things like I cannot discuss what is classified but you should ask them yourself?
He could give his opinion on whether or nor MBS gave the order and I would trust his opinion.