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Swordsmyth
12-04-2018, 02:20 PM
https://www.jbs.org/federal-legislat...8679%2frespond (https://www.jbs.org/federal-legislative-action-alerts?vvsrc=%2fcampaigns%2f58679%2frespond)

Swordsmyth
12-04-2018, 02:23 PM
U.S. President Donald Trump said on Saturday he will give formal notice to the U.S. Congress in the near future to terminate the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), giving six months for lawmakers to approve a new trade deal signed on Friday."I will be formally terminating NAFTA shortly," Trump told reporters aboard Air Force One on his way home from Argentina.
"Just so you understand, when I do that - if for any reason we're unable to make a deal because of Congress then Congress will have a choice" of the new deal or returning to trade rules from before 1994 when NAFTA took effect, he said.
Trump said the trade rules before NAFTA "work very well."

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-not...--finance.html (https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-notify-congress-near-future-terminate-nafta-034002606--finance.html)

Swordsmyth
12-04-2018, 02:23 PM
Brian4Liberty and any other mods

Please keep this activism thread clean of the derailment trolls.

PAF
12-05-2018, 08:37 AM
I inserted USMCA into the message body because you have to clearly spell it out for them:

https://www.votervoice.net/mobile/JBS/campaigns/58679/respond

Swordsmyth
12-06-2018, 07:10 PM
Fortunately, USMCA is not yet a done deal. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Penn.) has informed Trump that the votes to pass USMCA are not yet there, as opposition remains from members of both parties. Senator Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio), told CNN, “The president needs to talk to Congress on this and we can get back to the table with the Mexicans and the Canadians and do stronger labor standards.”


Another Democrat, Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, asked, “If this deal is so great, why is he already resorting to threats to try and ram this through Congress?”

Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) has expressed his own concerns, tweeting that the deal was “unacceptable,” because he contends it would kill the Florida vegetable market.

William F. Jasper, senior editor of The New American, has said that it is unlikely that Trump has actually read the USMCA deal (it's an extremely long document — more than 1,800 pages!), and that he is just going by what his advisors have told him is in the agreement. This means, of course, that the president himself, who ran for president on an "America First" agenda, could have second thoughts about the agreement when he finds out more about what is actually in it.

Americans who value their nation’s independence need to address this issue with their members of the House and Senate, right now. And, while they are at it, members of Congress should be asked just why such a far-reaching agreement is not a treaty. Under the Constitution, a treaty must be approved by not just a majority of the Senate, but by two-thirds of the Senate, before it can be considered law in the United States. And, any treaty must be in accordance with the Constitution itself, before it is legally binding.

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/30837-trump-s-threat-to-leave-nafta-is-designed-to-force-through-usmca-but-why-not-scuttle-both

kona
12-13-2018, 01:27 AM
I heard Roger Stone yesterday screaming at Trump to fix or nix this deal. Said Trump (we) are getting railroaded by his "advisors" and that USMCA will codify censorship, destroy free speech, and increase government. Many parts were written by Apple/Google.

We dodged the GDPR bullet when Trump killed TPP but it has boomeranged right back and Trump is probably oblivious. Or worse...

Origanalist
12-13-2018, 06:32 AM
I heard Roger Stone yesterday screaming at Trump to fix or nix this deal. Said Trump (we) are getting railroaded by his "advisors" and that USMCA will codify censorship, destroy free speech, and increase government. Many parts were written by Apple/Google.

We dodged the GDPR bullet when Trump killed TPP but it has boomeranged right back and Trump is probably oblivious. Or worse...

Does it matter which?

PAF
01-09-2019, 05:04 PM
USMCA Is A United Nations Agreement

The USMCA is riddled with the International Labour Organization, containing language such as Tribunals and Sustainable Development. This is the NAFTA replacement agreement that our U.S. government is pushing.

Please look at this entire globalist agreement, Chaper 23 (Labor)

https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/united-states-mexico-canada-agreement/agreement-between

The International Labour Organization (ILO) is a United Nations Agency that sets international labour standards.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Labour_Organization

PAF
01-16-2019, 12:02 PM
The USMCA “Trade Agreement” Violates Our Constitution And Sets Up Global Government

Jan 15, 2019 by Publius Huldah

On November 30, 2018, President Trump, along with the Prime Minister of Canada and the President of Mexico, signed the United States-Mexico-Canada (USMCA) “Trade Agreement”. “Trade” is in quotes, because the document isn’t about “trade” – it’s about setting up global government. “Agreement” is in quotes because the document is a “treaty” – and that invokes the two-thirds ratification requirement of Art. II, §2, cl. 2, US Constitution.

The USMCA Treaty (“Treaty”) was negotiated by U.S. Trade Representative, Robert Lighthizer. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, which works to move the United States into the North American Union (NAU).[1]

Continue:

https://newswithviews.com/the-usmca-trade-agreement-violates-our-constitution-and-sets-up-global-government/

Swordsmyth
01-16-2019, 08:44 PM
Mexico: 2019 Budget Includes No Funds for USMCA-Mandated Labor Reform (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530403-Mexico-2019-Budget-Includes-No-Funds-for-USMCA-Mandated-Labor-Reform)

Swordsmyth
01-19-2019, 03:44 PM
US President Donald Trump on Saturday lashed out at Mexico for staying idle while a third caravan of Central American migrants is approaching the southern US border.“Mexico is doing NOTHING to stop the Caravan which is now fully formed and heading to the United States,” Trump tweeted.

Mexico is doing NOTHING to stop the Caravan which is now fully formed and heading to the United States. We stopped the last two – many are still in Mexico but can’t get through our Wall, but it takes a lot of Border Agents if there is no Wall. Not easy!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) January 19, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1086626739835625474?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

The caravan reportedly began arriving at the Mexican border with Guatemala on Friday. Fox News said around a 1,000 marched through the border gates after they were left open.
Trump has repeatedly slammed Mexico for ignoring big crowds that have been trekking north to start a new life in the United States, warning there were criminals mixed in.

“We stopped the last two — many are still in Mexico but can’t get through our Wall, but it takes a lot of Border Agents if there is no Wall. Not easy!” the president stressed.

More at: https://www.infowars.com/trump-mexico-doing-nothing-to-stop-new-migrant-caravan/

PAF
01-23-2019, 06:30 PM
Trump’s Support for USMCA to Pay for Wall Is Too High a Price

January 2019

https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/31161-trump-s-support-for-usmca-to-pay-for-wall-is-too-high-a-price


For more information:

https://www.jbs.org/nafta

Zippyjuan
01-23-2019, 07:56 PM
Mexico: 2019 Budget Includes No Funds for USMCA-Mandated Labor Reform (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?530403-Mexico-2019-Budget-Includes-No-Funds-for-USMCA-Mandated-Labor-Reform)

USMCA doesn't even go into effect until all counties involved ratify it so they don't have to change any laws yet (are those wages paid by the government?). It does require Mexico to pay people in the automobile industry (either parts or whole cars) a minimum of $15 an hour. The US gets to sell a bit more fluid milk products to Canada. Otherwise, pretty much the same old NAFTA Trump called the "worst agreement in the world" and now calls the same thing amazing. He is after all a salesman. He also says the agreement will pay for that wall thing he wants. The Government Shutdown funds (what?) will also pay for it.

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Swordsmyth
01-29-2019, 09:45 PM
Kevin Brady, a Republican member of the U.S. House of Representatives’ Ways and Means Committee, has said the U.S. Congress will not consider approving the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) until it receives assurances that import tariffs on steel and aluminum will be lifted, Inside U.S. Trade reported Jan. 29. Imports of steel and aluminum from Canada and Mexico remain subject to U.S. tariffs under Section 232 of the 1962 Trade Expansion Act.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/us-congress-will-not-approve-usmca-until-tariffs-steel-aluminum-are-lifted

Swordsmyth
01-31-2019, 12:05 AM
Rand needs to argue that this is a treaty and requires a 2/3rds vote in the Senate.

PAF
02-05-2019, 08:57 PM
Bump due to SOTU speech.

Swordsmyth
02-22-2019, 08:46 PM
Ottawa may delay the ratification of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) until Washington decides to lift tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum, according to Transport Minister Marc Garneau, the CBC reported Feb. 21.

Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has received domestic criticism for failing to convince the United States to lift steel and aluminum tariffs as part of the trade negotiations. As Canada gears up for elections in October, Ottawa may take an increasingly assertive stance on lifting the tariffs, which could further complicate the agreement's ratification.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/canada-government-may-delay-usmca-ratification-until-us-lifts-tariffs-steel

enhanced_deficit
03-02-2019, 06:57 PM
OP, is USMCA bad for America?

If so, why both GOP-Adelson/Jarvanka leaderships consider it a huge achievement?
MAGA team leader even proudly won MX's highest Aztec award from MX gov.

Swordsmyth
03-02-2019, 10:42 PM
OP, is USMCA bad for America?

If so, why both GOP-Adelson/Jarvanka leaderships consider it a huge achievement?
MAGA team leader even proudly won MX's highest Aztec award from MX gov.
It is both better and worse than NAFTA in various ways and it is bad and should be stopped, Adelson/Jarvanka can't be trusted but Trump needs their cooperation, notice that there seem to be roadblocks popping up in the way of the USMCA and Trump's cooperation with it may end up having been a bag of air he traded to them.

Swordsmyth
03-25-2019, 08:08 PM
Mexico's proposed labor reform, which is required for the ratification of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), falls short of demands Washington made during trade negotiations, Inside U.S. Trade reported March 25.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/mexico-diluted-labor-reform-bill-may-threaten-usmca-ratification

Swordsmyth
03-27-2019, 11:39 PM
Chief executives from American steel producers urged lawmakers to maintain strong U.S. tariffs on the metal on Wednesday to protect their industry, as Senate efforts to rein in President Donald Trump's tariff powers gained steam.The CEOs of top U.S. steelmakers Nucor Corp, United States Steel Corp, ArcelorMittal SA and Commercial Metals Co told the Congressional Steel Caucus that the "Section 232" steel tariffs were just starting to allow their industry to recover from damage caused by years of dumped imports and needed to be kept in place long-term.


Little has been done to reduce excess steel production capacity in China that U.S. producers blame for most of the industry's woes, and without the tariffs, unfairly traded imports would flood back into the U.S. market, the executives said.
"Now is not the time to blink," U.S. Steel CEO David Burritt told the lawmakers at a hearing on Wednesday. "Section 232 must continue to be applied to all countries, especially the largest import sources, whether that's a tariff or a hard quota. Even our best allies can be conduits for foreign steel from China or elsewhere."
Canada and Mexico are trying to negotiate a plan to lift U.S. metals tariffs from their products. The Trump administration is demanding quotas to limit import volumes in lieu of tariffs, but Canada and Mexico are resisting.
Earlier this week, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland and U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer made little headway in a meeting to resolve the issue, a Canadian official told Reuters.
"There was not a meeting of the minds," the official said. "That of course is an opportunity for the minister to reflect and think about what our next steps are."


Several Republican U.S. senators are combining forces on legislation to limit Trump's ability to impose tariffs under Section 232 of the Cold War-era Trade Expansion Act of 1962.
Senate Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, who represents the farming state of Iowa, on Tuesday said he would lead the effort aimed at restoring Congress' constitutional authority over trade matters. His plan calls for Section 232 tariffs to be limited to a defined period of time unless extended by Congress.
United Steelworkers President Leo Gerard told the steel caucus lawmakers that Canada should be exempted from the Section 232 tariffs because of the high level of cross-border integration and common ownership in the industry. His union represents about 9,000 Canadian steel workers and 50,000 at U.S. mills.
But Representative Mike Bost, a Republican whose district saw U.S. Steel restart two blast furnaces and rehire 800 workers at its Granite City, Illinois mill last year, made clear that he was focused on rebuilding steelmaking capacity in the United States, not Canada.
"I want to let you know that the focus of this committee should be our U.S. workers," Bost said.
The steel executives also called on the lawmakers to boost U.S. demand for steel by passing a significant infrastructure investment package this year.

"Please let this year be the time to stop talking and start investing," said ArcelorMittal USA President John Brett.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/dont-blink-tr...--finance.html (https://news.yahoo.com/dont-blink-trump-tariffs-steel-ceos-tell-u-230025741--finance.html)

Swordsmyth
04-02-2019, 09:14 PM
U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has said the House of Representatives would not consider approving the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) until Mexico adopts and implements a labor reform that the three countries agreed upon during USMCA negotiations, Politico reported April 2. Pelosi is also pushing for the inclusion of environmental protections and enforcement of agreements on pharmaceuticals in the deal.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/us-house-wont-consider-usmca-vote-until-mexico-implements-labor-reform-pelosi-says

Swordsmyth
04-05-2019, 10:22 PM
Following a suggestion by Democratic House Speaker Nancy Pelosi that changes to the USMCA needed to be made in the actual text of the agreement before Democrats would pass the USMCA, both Mexican and Canadian officials have rejected reopening renegotiations.

“We’re saying that enforcement has to be in the treaty, not in the implementing legislation,” Pelosi recently told Politico Playbook during an interview on Tuesday. Early on, high-ranking Democrats had sounded as if they would accept the USMCA if they could tweak the legislation to implement the USMCA — in an effort to assure that Democrat goals would be met.
On Thursday, Jesús Seade Kuri, the Undersecretary for North America for Mexico’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs shot down Pelosi’s request. “Reopening it is as good as killing it,” Seade Kuri said. Likewise, Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland also ruled out the possibility of reopening negotiations, comparing the suggestion to opening “Pandora’s box.”
“When it comes to the issue of actually opening up the agreement, that's where Canada's view is, we've done our deal,” Freeland told reporters on Thursday. “This was a very intense negotiation. A lot of time, a lot of effort went into it, compromises were made on all sides, and we believe that people need to be very careful around opening up what could really be a Pandora's box.”


More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/north-america/item/31940-mexico-and-canada-no-to-reopening-usmca

Swordsmyth
04-13-2019, 01:13 AM
Members of the Democratic Party in the U.S. House of Representatives Ways and Means Committee have expressed skepticism that the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) will significantly improve labor standards in Mexico, according to an April 11 letter to U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, Inside U.S. Trade reported.

The Ways and Means Committee's letter could pose a serious challenge to the USMCA's ratification as the agreement requires the panel's approval.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/us-house-committee-democrats-dispute-usmca-effects-mexican-labor-standards

Swordsmyth
05-03-2019, 06:05 PM
Mexico’s Senate this week approved a sweeping package that focuses on labor law enforcement in the country.

The move follows the successful negotiation of the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), which includes unprecedented labor and environmental provisions and is designed to replace NAFTA.
But many Democrats on Capitol Hill argue the USMCA doesn’t provide for enforcement of the agreed-to labor standards.
“Clearly the vote [the Mexican Senate] took, the fact they did that is good for workers in Mexico, but we still have to have stronger enforcement,” said Rep. Mark Pocan (https://thehill.com/people/mark-pocan) (D-Wis.), co-chairman of the Congressional Progressive Caucus.
“This has been a problem in past agreements. When you don’t have the enforcement language in the same language as the trade agreement, it makes it less likely to be enforced,” said Pocan.
He added it “should be an easy lift” to add enforcement language before the USMCA is taken up by the House.
But there’s no guarantee the agreement will make it to the House floor. Speaker Nancy Pelosi (https://thehill.com/people/nancy-pelosi) (D-Calif.) said at a press conference Thursday that while she wants to add pharmaceutical and environmental provisions to the trade deal, “the overarching issue is enforcement.
“You can have all the good language in the world that you want, but if you don’t have enforcement, you’re just having a conversation. You’re not having a real negotiation,” she said.
Adding new language would mean reopening negotiations, something Mexico and the Trump administration are reluctant to do. Acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney (https://thehill.com/people/mick-mulvaney) recently rejected Pelosi’s demand (https://thehill.com/policy/finance/trade/441389-mulvaney-rejects-democratic-calls-to-renegotiate-updated-nafta) to renegotiate the USMCA.


More at: https://thehill.com/policy/finance/trade/442090-mexico-trade-official-hits-dems-for-opposition-to-new-nafta

Swordsmyth
05-07-2019, 08:12 PM
US imposes tariffs on Mexican tomatoes (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?534266-US-imposes-tariffs-on-Mexican-tomatoes)

Swordsmyth
05-25-2019, 01:07 AM
President Donald Trump said on Thursday that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi does not understand the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade deal and had told the U.S. trade representative, Robert Lighthizer, she wanted two weeks to get to know the agreement."Pelosi does not understand the bill, she doesn't understand it ... so she's got to get up to snuff, learn the bill," Trump said at a White House event.
"She's a mess. Look, let's face it, she doesn't understand it," Trump said.
Pelosi, responding to Trump's remarks, tweeted: "When the 'extremely stable genius' starts acting more presidential, I’ll be happy to work with him on infrastructure, trade and other issues."
Pelosi was invoking a comment made by Trump earlier on Thursday, when he called himself "an extremely stable genius" as the two engaged in a heated war of words.
Republicans in Congress are pushing for ratification of the USMCA, which would replace the 25-year-old North American Free Trade Agreement, before lawmakers leave Washington for their August recess. As the House of Representatives speaker, Pelosi, a Democrat, controls when any initial vote could take place.
Text of the agreement has been published since October 2018, but some Democratic lawmakers have demanded stronger enforcement provisions for USMCA's new labor and environmental standards and it is unclear whether this can be achieved through the USMCA's implementing legislation.

A two-week study period would eat up a dwindling number of legislative days before Congress starts its break on Aug. 3. "I think that's a long time," said Trump, who has been feuding with Democrats over the probe into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-house-speaker-pelosi-wants-two-weeks-202149202--finance.html

Swordsmyth
05-30-2019, 07:35 PM
Trump Unleashes Tariffs On Mexico "Until Illegal Immigration Stops" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?535119-Trump-Unleashes-Tariffs-On-Mexico-quot-Until-Illegal-Immigration-Stops-quot)

RonZeplin
05-30-2019, 10:48 PM
https://voxism.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/NAFTA.jpg

USMCA surrender agreement, signed. Officially a third world craphole now.

Swordsmyth
05-31-2019, 08:37 PM
Vice President Mike Pence may have assured Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau that the Trump administration was "absolutely committed" to passing USMCA this summer, but that was before Robert Lighthizer infuriated Democrats by starting the clock on bringing legislation to ratify the treaty before Congress - and also before President Trump revealed his plans to impose tariffs on Mexican imports.

The chances of USMCA passing were already looking tenuous, as Democrats have appeared reluctant to work with President Trump to facilitate what would be his biggest trade triumph to date. But now that Trump has angered Mexico and Democrats with the new tariffs, chances of USMCA passing have fallen from 'low' to 'nearly zero', according to a team of analysts at Goldman Sachs.

In a note to clients published on Friday, Goldman explained that it believes Trump will move ahead with 5% tariffs on Mexican imports on June 10 - at least that's the bank's base case, even as its analysts concede that Trump never followed through on threats to close the southern border.
And, assuming the tariffs do take effect, Democrats in the House will likely slow consideration of USMCA - likely missing the 90-day window for consideration triggered by Lighthizer on Thursday - and greatly increasing the chances that the deal won't be ratified until after the 2020 election

More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-05-31/latest-trump-tariffs-mean-nafta-20-wont-be-ratified-until-after-2020-goldman-says

LibertyEagle
06-02-2019, 03:23 AM
This is a horrid treaty. I hope Rand can get to him on it, or this may be a deal killer for me. Lighthizer is a CFR globalist tool.

clint4liberty
06-02-2019, 02:07 PM
I do not believe the US House of Representatives will ratify the new trade agreement.

Swordsmyth
06-02-2019, 06:23 PM
This is a horrid treaty. I hope Rand can get to him on it, or this may be a deal killer for me. Lighthizer is a CFR globalist tool.
I think the tariffs on Mexico over the illegals will kill it.

Swordsmyth
06-02-2019, 11:46 PM
The top Mexican official leading negotiations with the U.S. over President Donald Trump’s newly announced tariffs previously compared Trump to Hitler and described him as an “enemy” of Mexico.

Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard arrived at the Mexican embassy on Saturday and is scheduled to meet with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Wednesday, Ebrard announced on Twitter.
Ebrard, a former Mexico City mayor who has served as foreign secretary since December 2018, has been open in his disdain for Trump in the past.

“He, like Hitler, is a good communicator,” Ebrard told The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-a-rising-political-star-in-mexico-ended-up-campaigning-for-clinton) in 2016, referring to Trump.

The New Yorker’s article profiled Ebrard’s get-out-the-vote efforts for then-Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.
“It was after hearing Donald Trump speak that I decided to get much more involved, beyond just giving opinions,” Ebrard told the magazine. “The risk represented by el Señor Trump, the things that he says, in particular about Mexico, but in general, too, are like nothing else I’ve encountered.”
Roughly a week before the 2016 election, Ebrard called Trump the greatest “enemy” that Mexico has faced in “many years.”

Trump es el peor enemigo que México haya enfrentado en muchos años. Debemos esforzarnos para frenarlo con votos en E.U.A.
— Marcelo Ebrard C. (@m_ebrard) October 31, 2016 (https://twitter.com/m_ebrard/status/793237330542800896?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)



Cada voto cuenta, apoyemos a Hillary Clinton. Derrotemos la xenofobia anti mexicana de Trump pic.twitter.com/Qpb314m3Qq (https://t.co/Qpb314m3Qq)
— Marcelo Ebrard C. (@m_ebrard) October 29, 2016 (https://twitter.com/m_ebrard/status/792227774672932864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw)

Now, Ebrard is in the position of leading negotiations with the Trump administration over the tariffs Trump slapped on his country.

More at: https://www.infowars.com/mexican-official-leading-tariff-negotiations-compared-trump-to-hitler-called-him-mexicos-enemy/

Swordsmyth
06-04-2019, 02:16 AM
Bump

Swordsmyth
06-04-2019, 02:22 AM
Urge your representatives to Get US Out! of NAFTA & USMCA
https://www.jbs.org/federal-legislat...8679%2frespond (https://www.jbs.org/federal-legislative-action-alerts?vvsrc=%2fcampaigns%2f58679%2frespond)

Swordsmyth
06-10-2019, 10:31 PM
Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s decision on when (and whether) the deal will get a vote depends on talks with the Trump administration to address Democrats’ concerns, according to a senior Democratic aide.“We’re not ready,’’ Representative Debbie Dingell, a Michigan Democrat, said Sunday on Fox News. “The votes in the House are not there yet until these changes take place.’’

During last week’s uncertainty over trade with Mexico, most Democrats publicly separated USMCA deliberations from Trump’s tariff plan, which means that removing the tariff threat doesn’t necessarily clear the way for a new deal to replace the North American Free Trade Agreement. Dingell said she wants changes to the agreement’s labor, environmental and enforcement provisions that would satisfy her skeptical colleagues.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/democrats-hold-usmca-trump-walks-133507650.html

Swordsmyth
06-24-2019, 09:39 PM
Mexican labor unions have requested injunctions in Mexican federal court against labor reform tied to the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), El Economista reported June 23. The labor unions, all organized under the umbrella of the Mexican Laborers' Confederation (CTM), argue the labor reform's stipulation that each labor organization adopt direct, secret votes for the election of new leaders harms them.

A lower court ruling temporarily suspending the unions' obligations under the labor reform would send the message that Mexico isn't serious about implementing the requirements of USMCA. In Mexico, such a ruling could cause a snowball effect, in which unions enter a de facto state of noncompliance with USMCA's labor reform. If USMCA were still pending in the United States and a Mexican injunction were awarded to a CTM-sponsored union, House Democrats might see this as a sign that labor rights in Mexico won't significantly improve — making the issue yet another sticking point for USMCA.

More at: https://worldview.stratfor.com/situation-report/mexico-unions-ask-injunctions-labor-reform-required-usmca

Swordsmyth
07-09-2019, 06:17 PM
It is both fortunate and unfortunate that House Democrats tend to oppose the deal as presently constituted. This is fortunate as without the votes from a significant number of Democrats, the deal cannot be passed, but it is unfortunate because the changes sought by the Democrats are generally not good.

In other words, if the Trump administration agrees to changes sought by the Democrats, USMCA would be even worse than it is now — and it is bad enough as it is.
The New Democrat Coalition told U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer on Monday not to submit USMCA to Congress unless the administration first addresses concerns of the Democrats. The New Democrat Coalition of 103 members told Lighthizer, “We were troubled that you sent up the draft Statement of Administrative Action on May 30 without sufficient consultation, and strongly urge you to not make the same mistake twice.”

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/congress/item/32814-usmca-trade-deal-moving-closer-to-submission-to-congress

Swordsmyth
07-11-2019, 07:31 PM
The Trump administration is expected to submit the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA), a government-managed trade deal, to Congress sometime after September 1, with hopes for ratification by the end of this year. As is usual in Washington’s contentious political climate, differences between what the White House wants and what the Democrat-run House of Representatives wants could complicate that hope, even killing the deal for now.

The Democrats want any trade deal with Mexico and Canada to reflect their desire to impose more government regulations on businesses and attain provisions favoring their goals in the way of environmentalism (CO2 limits), labor unions (making it easier to force unions on workers), and other issues dear to their “progressive” agenda. The deal already has provisions on these issues — USMCA would place all three countries under the control of the International Labor Organization (ILO) by specifically committing them to the ILO’s Declaration on Fundamental Principles and Rights at Work and the Declaration on Social Justice for a Fair Globalization.
The problem for the Democrats is that they contend the USMCA does not go far enough in adopting more government control over private business.
Another factor in Democrat reluctance to sign off on USMCA has little to do with what is or is not in the deal right now. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) does not want to give President Trump a major legislative “victory” on the eve of the 2020 presidential election. And Pelosi has used her power as speaker of the house to thwart a Republican president before. In 2007, Pelosi suspended what is known as “fast-track” bargaining authority indefinitely when Republican President George W. Bush had sent a so-called free-trade deal with Colombia to Congress.
“Fast-track” allows a president to negotiate a trade deal and submit it to Congress for an up-and-down vote. This would appear to violate the Constitution’s provision in Article I, Section 8 that gives Congress, not the president, the authority “to regulate commerce with foreign nations.”
Bush’s trade deal was never approved during his tenure. Tim Keeler, then chief of staff for then-U.S. Trade Representative Susan Schwab, recalled the struggle over the Colombia trade deal with CNBC. “At the time, no president had sent an FTA [free trade agreement] under fast track rules where a speaker was opposed, so we didn’t know how Speaker Pelosi would react.”
This history gives some hope to USMCA opponents, as Pelosi was able to stop the deal then. Unfortunately, this history also indicates that Pelosi’s opposition was more to a trade deal of a Republican president, rather than a Democrat president. Five years later, Pelosi supported virtually the same deal when Democrat President Barack Obama renegotiated the deal.
Pelosi showed similar hypocrisy recently when she (rightly) said that any military action against Iran by President Trump would require congressional approval, but a few years ago, she argued that President Obama did not need congressional approval to take military action against Libya.
Still, even if Pelosi’s opposition is of impure motives, champions of American national sovereignty should be thankful, if it kills the deal.
Under the rules of “fast-track,” once the bill is officially sent to Congress to implement USMCA, a “clock” starts ticking. Members of Congress would then have 90 working days after receiving the legislation to hold a vote.
This should alert patriotic Americans concerned about more of our national sovereignty being surrendered and cause them to contact their members of Congress. Republican members will be under tremendous pressure to go along with a president of their political party.

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/item/32832-usmca-faces-democratic-opposition-in-the-house-despite-hopes-for-ratification-by-year-s-end

Zippyjuan
07-11-2019, 08:17 PM
Congress cannot modify the treaty. They can only vote for or against it as written. If they reject it, the US can try to re-open the treaty negotiations to try to get changes which could help it pass (which the other parties would also have to agree to).

Swordsmyth
07-11-2019, 08:48 PM
Congress cannot modify the treaty. They can only vote for or against it as written. If they reject it, the US can try to re-open the treaty negotiations to try to get changes which could help it pass (which the other parties would also have to agree to).
Which makes it all the easier to kill because Mexico and Canada won't renegotiate.

Swordsmyth
08-17-2019, 01:21 AM
On Thursday June 20, 2019 (https://medium.com/@SpeakerPelosi/madam-speaker-a-behind-the-scenes-look-at-the-u-s-speaker-of-the-house-june-17-21-2019-a7212a63ddc2), Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau traveled to Washington DC for a meeting with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and democrat leadership. After the political ideologues held the meeting, Trudeau and Canadian Foreign Affairs Minister Chrystia Freeland tabled the Canadian ratification (https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/05/27/canada-begins-first-steps-toward-usmca-ratification/) on the USMCA trade agreement.

More at: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/08/16/politics-to-support-wall-street-multinationals-democrats-plan-to-block-trump-trade-reset/

Swordsmyth
08-29-2019, 09:32 PM
https://www.ft.com/content/56077fc2-ca73-11e9-a1f4-3669401ba76f

enhanced_deficit
09-02-2019, 09:38 PM
This is a horrid treaty. I hope Rand can get to him on it, or this may be a deal killer for me. Lighthizer is a CFR globalist tool.

To be devil's advocate, if this treaty is so horrid, why senior White House advisors that MAGA POTUS frequently admires (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?538313-President-Trump-praises-Sr-White-House-advisors-Few-work-harder-than-Ivanka-Jared&) see it differently? You don't buy argument of MAGA supporters that globalists have been appointed by this America-First POTUS to put them in their place through 3D chess?



How Trump's son-in-law helped salvage the North American trade zone

“I’ve said before, and I’ll say again, this agreement would not have happened if it wasn’t for Jared,” Lighthizer told reporters.


(Reuters) - Robert Lighthizer was the public face of arduous, year-long talks to rework NAFTA, but as he savored a successful conclusion in the White House Rose Garden on Monday, the U.S. trade representative singled out another man as the deal’s architect.

The 70-year-old veteran negotiator was referring to Jared Kushner, more than 30 years his junior and Donald Trump’s son-in-law, whom the president had asked to help out on trade early in the presidency, especially on Canada and Mexico.

While Kushner’s time in the White House has been turbulent - Chief of Staff John Kelly temporarily stripped him of his security clearance this year and he has been criticized for his dealings with the Middle East - his role in keeping the North American Trade Agreement afloat was fundamental, multiple sources said.



https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trade-nafta-kushner-insight/how-trumps-son-in-law-helped-salvage-the-north-american-trade-zone-idUSKCN1MC04M



But in case this is not 3D chess, gressroots would have to work harder than MAGA appointed senior White House advisors to convince their Reps to take a stand against MAGA's inner circle.. although in the past some had called that 'political suicide'. Steve Bannon was not elected Reps of conservatives but he was made an example when he went against MAGA's senior White House advisors like NAFTA savior Jared.

Swordsmyth
09-26-2019, 12:09 AM
President Trump raised concerns that Congress may not approve the new North American Free Trade Agreement, now that the House has launched an impeachment inquiry.

“I don’t know if Nancy Pelosi is going to have any time to sign [the USMCA] — that’s the only problem,” said President Trump on Wednesday. He went on to say Pelosi is wasting time with a “manufactured crisis.”

Approving the new deal (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lawmakers-business-groups-warn-new-tariffs-could-derail-new-nafta-192926720.html) — known as the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) — before the end of the year has been one of the administration’s top priorities.
“If it happens, it happens. Otherwise, when we take over the House next year we’ll do it our way,” said Trump.


At a press conference Wednesday afternoon, a reporter asked President Trump if he would end NAFTA if USMCA doesn’t make it through Congress.
“I don't want to answer that question, but you know how I feel about NAFTA. I think NAFTA is the worst trade deal ever made,” Trump replied. “We’re gonna find out. That’s going to be a very interesting question.”

More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-could-kill-the-usmca-233627048.html

Swordsmyth
09-26-2019, 12:09 AM
President Trump raised concerns that Congress may not approve the new North American Free Trade Agreement, now that the House has launched an impeachment inquiry.

“I don’t know if Nancy Pelosi is going to have any time to sign [the USMCA] — that’s the only problem,” said President Trump on Wednesday. He went on to say Pelosi is wasting time with a “manufactured crisis.”

Approving the new deal (https://finance.yahoo.com/news/lawmakers-business-groups-warn-new-tariffs-could-derail-new-nafta-192926720.html) — known as the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) — before the end of the year has been one of the administration’s top priorities.
“If it happens, it happens. Otherwise, when we take over the House next year we’ll do it our way,” said Trump.


At a press conference Wednesday afternoon, a reporter asked President Trump if he would end NAFTA if USMCA doesn’t make it through Congress.
“I don't want to answer that question, but you know how I feel about NAFTA. I think NAFTA is the worst trade deal ever made,” Trump replied. “We’re gonna find out. That’s going to be a very interesting question.”

More at: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-could-kill-the-usmca-233627048.html

Swordsmyth
10-09-2019, 12:20 AM
The leader of a U.S. congressional delegation to Mexico said on Tuesday that Mexico must take more concrete steps to implement its labor reform, after a trip aimed at speeding up ratification of the new North American free trade deal.Mexican President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has vowed union freedoms, higher wages and other labor rights in his bid to assuage the concerns of U.S. congressional Democrats, who hold the key to ratifying the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).
But as he concluded his visit to Mexico, Richard E. Neal, who leads the Ways and Means Committee in the United States' lower house of Congress, suggested Democrats were still not satisfied.
"Our meeting with President Lopez Obrador shed further light on the Mexican government's desire and intentions to carry out its labor justice reform, but the United States needs to see those assurances put into action," Neal said in a statement.
It was unclear precisely what steps Neal would like to see.


Mexico's Congress has already approved the deal. It also needs ratification from Canadian lawmakers.
Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard told reporters the next three weeks would be a "decisive phase" for the pact, and that officials would send U.S. lawmakers a document next week detailing the issues discussed on Tuesday, including Mexico's labor reform.

Democrats are seeking better mechanisms in the trade agreement to ensure enforcement of labor and environmental provisions. One measure under consideration is providing aid to Mexico to beef up enforcement of labor rules.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/mexico-president-calls-usmca-ratification-132559399.html

r3volution 3.0
10-09-2019, 09:58 PM
I'm so glad that Trump managed, after immense regime uncertainty, to negotiate a deal that's almost identical to the status quo.

...his reality TV "not a politician" skills really proved useful.

...what a (stable) genius.

...how wonderful that the electorate had faith in him.

angelatc
10-09-2019, 10:35 PM
I'm so glad that Trump managed, after immense regime uncertainty, to negotiate a deal that's almost identical to the status quo.

...his reality TV "not a politician" skills really proved useful.

...what a (stable) genius.

...how wonderful that the electorate had faith in him.

It's 4D chess. He's acting like the Deep State in order to trick the Deep State into exposing themselves. And then...he will whack their pee-pees.

r3volution 3.0
10-09-2019, 10:55 PM
It's 4D chess. He's acting like the Deep State in order to trick the Deep State into exposing themselves. And then...he will whack their pee-pees.

Undoubtedly..

enhanced_deficit
10-22-2019, 11:05 AM
Trump urges Congress to vote on USMCA (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?540413-Trump-urges-Congress-to-vote-on-USMCA&)October 21, 2019
President Trump on Oct. 21 said that the U.S. trade agreement with Mexico and Canada needs to be voted on, adding that "it's going to be very bipartisan."

Swordsmyth
12-12-2019, 04:08 PM
U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer (https://thehill.com/people/robert-bob-lighthizer) faced pushback and a “bucket full” of questions Thursday during a closed-door caucus lunch meeting meant to sell Senate Republicans on the new trade deal with Canada and Mexico.

Republican senators stressed that they expect the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) will have the votes to pass the Senate, but acknowledged there was still opposition within the caucus and broader frustration with how the trade negotiations had been handled.
“There’s some opposition to some pieces of it, as you might imagine,” Sen. David Perdue (R-Ga.) told reporters after the lunch.


Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (https://thehill.com/people/mitch-mcconnell) (R-Ky.) has said the Senate will not take up the trade deal until next year after the chamber finishes an expected impeachment trial for President Trump (https://thehill.com/people/donald-trump).
“From my perspective, it’s not as good as I had hoped," McConnell told reporters during a weekly press conference Tuesday.
But GOP senators indicated after the Lighthizer meeting that there are concerns about the process for how the trade deal will move through the Senate.
Sen. John Cornyn (https://thehill.com/people/john-cornyn) (R-Texas), a top adviser to McConnell, said he did not expect the Senate Finance Committee to have a mock markup of the trade deal, which under previous agreements would allow them to suggest changes that could be worked in to a final proposal.
“It’s a bad practice and I don’t think the Senate should just quietly agree to be jammed in the process,” Cornyn said, adding that it was a “lousy way to treat the Senate.”
Sen. Pat Toomey (https://thehill.com/people/patrick-toomey) (R-Pa.) said he had also heard the Senate Finance Committee would not be holding a mock markup of the trade deal.
“We have to have an opportunity to weigh in on that,” Toomey said. “This is a problem.”
Toomey said he raised his concerns with Lighthizer during the lunch and at two separate meetings with Senate Finance Republicans.
When asked if he spoke directly to Lighthizer about his concerns, Toomey said: "I did. In fact, I raised them at the meeting we had before the lunch and I raised them on the phone call the day before that."

More at: https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/474344-lighthizer-fails-to-quell-gop-angst-on-trade-deal

presence
12-14-2019, 09:33 AM
Trump said the trade rules before NAFTA "work very well."

Lets be real... trade rules prior to the Navigation Acts of 1651 were the only one's that worked at all.

Everything since then; sans that joyous moment of laughter in 1765...

nothing more than a subtle variants of state mafia racketeering.

Origanalist
12-14-2019, 10:05 AM
It's 4D chess. He's acting like the Deep State in order to trick the Deep State into exposing themselves. And then...he will whack their pee-pees.

You're dating yourself with that term Angela....:D

acptulsa
12-14-2019, 10:20 AM
You're dating yourself with that term Angela....:D

Which one? "4D Chess"?

Swordsmyth
12-14-2019, 06:06 PM
Mexico's deputy foreign minister, Jesus Seade, said on Saturday he sent a letter to the top U.S. trade official expressing surprise and concern over a labor enforcement provision proposed by a U.S. congressional committee in the new North American trade deal.Top officials from Canada, Mexico and the United States on Tuesday signed a fresh overhaul of a quarter-century-old deal, aiming to improve enforcement of worker rights and hold down prices for biologic drugs by eliminating a patent provision.
How labor disputes are handled in the new United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA) trade deal was one of the last sticking points in the negotiations between the three countries to overhaul the agreement.
Intense negotiations over the past week among U.S. Democrats, the administration of Republican U.S. President Donald Trump, and Mexico produced more stringent rules on labor rights aimed at reducing Mexico's low-wage advantage.
However, an annex for the implementation of the treaty that was presented on Friday in the U.S. House of Representatives proposes the designation of up to five U.S. experts who would monitor compliance with local labor reform in Mexico.
"This provision, the result of political decisions by Congress and the Administration in the United States, was not, for obvious reasons, consulted with Mexico," Seade wrote in the letter. "And, of course, we disagree."


The letter, released on Saturday, is dated Friday and addressed to U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer. Seade said he would travel to Washington on Sunday to raise the issues directly with Lighthizer and lawmakers.
"Unlike the rest of the provisions that are clearly within the internal scope of the United States, the provision referred to does have effects with respect to our country and therefore, should have been consulted," Seade wrote.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/mexico-objects-labor-enforcement-provision-215243615.html

angelatc
12-16-2019, 01:34 PM
Which one? "4D Chess"?

I suspect it's the Cheech & Chong reference.

CCTelander
12-16-2019, 01:44 PM
I suspect it's the Cheech & Chong reference.


I thought that was Paul Reubens (AKA Pee-wee Herman).

ETA: My bad. Cheech and Chong did indeed originate that phrase. I feel old.

angelatc
12-16-2019, 01:47 PM
I thought that was Paul Reubens (AKA Pee-wee Herman).

I had to search to be sure. :D One from the vaults: Trippin' In Court (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=baliff+whack+his+pee+pee&view=detail&mid=F0EBFCE29582F46EE7C2F0EBFCE29582F46EE7C2&FORM=VIRE)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=95&v=fI-todKuWhQ&feature=emb_title

CCTelander
12-16-2019, 01:49 PM
I had to search to be sure. :D One from the vaults: Trippin' In Court (https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=baliff+whack+his+pee+pee&view=detail&mid=F0EBFCE29582F46EE7C2F0EBFCE29582F46EE7C2&FORM=VIRE)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=95&v=fI-todKuWhQ&feature=emb_title


Yeah, you got in before my edit. Memory ain't what it used to be.

angelatc
12-16-2019, 02:04 PM
Yeah, you got in before my edit. Memory ain't what it used to be.

LIke I said, I had to search to be sure :D

CCTelander
12-16-2019, 02:10 PM
LIke I said, I had to search to be sure :D


"Golden Years" my ass! ;)

enhanced_deficit
07-11-2020, 11:23 PM
July 8, 2020

Trump touts USMCA with Mexican president at White House

USMCA took effect last week

By Paul Best
FOXBusiness

Trump: USMCA is the 'largest trade deal ever made'

President Trump discusses building a ‘powerful economic and security partnership’ with Mexico and how the U.S. is handling the coronavirus outbreak.

President Donald Trump welcomed Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador to the White House Wednesday to celebrate the new United States-Mexico-Canada trade agreement, which was signed in January and took effect earlier this month.
“It’s the largest, fairest and most advanced trade deal ever reached by any country, and it will bring enormous prosperity to both American and Mexican workers,” Trump said in the Rose Garden.
Trump and López Obrador held a meeting in the White House before signing a joint declaration that commits the two countries to “shared future prosperity.” They will have a working dinner with U.S. and Mexican business leaders Wednesday night.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/trump-touts-usmca-with-mexican-president-at-the-white-house


Bold USMCA celeberation by Trump despite GOP base's opposing stance on it.

enhanced_deficit
09-15-2020, 11:26 AM
Some dirt facts had been leaked in media. However , 'getting played (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?549214-Is-Trump-Playing-Them-or-Us&)' feelings among some purists and conservatives seem misplaced, outcomes like following could have been just a good ol failure depite deeply sincerest intentions to do the opposite:


U.S. Trade Deficit Hits Highest Level in History at $891.3B
fortune
Mar 6, 2019 - The Commerce Department reported the record-breaking trade deficit Wednesday, which grew despite Trump's efforts to the contrary.

U.S. trade gap with China reaches all-time high under Trump
politico
Mar 6, 2019 - The U.S. trade deficit in goods with China set a new record during President Donald Trump's second year in office, despite his efforts to rein in ...


https://voxism.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/NAFTA.jpg

USMCA surrender agreement, signed. Officially a third world craphole now.

Mexico's President gives Jared Kushner their nation’s greatest award for saving NAFTA (renamed USMCA)

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/97fee2f03ad98b1a62f5cf35444816789cf95bd3/c=310-0-5259-3712/local/-/media/2018/11/30/DetroitNews/B99725479Z.1_20181130105237_000_GE229H97E.2-0.jpg?width=534&height=401&fit=crop
The Order of the Aztec Eagle, issued by Mexico to foreigners who make a significant contribution to the country
November 30, 2018
Kushner was inducted into the Order of the Aztec Eagle. It’s an honour reserved for foreigners who make a significant contribution to Mexico’s wellbeing. In this case, it was for a trade agreement.

akashgupta27
10-15-2020, 08:21 AM
President Donald Trump said on Thursday that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi does not understand the U.S.-Mexico-Canada trade deal and had told the U.S. trade representative, Robert Lighthizer, she wanted two weeks to get to know the agreement."Pelosi does not understand the bill, she doesn't understand it ... so she's got to get up to snuff, learn the bill," Trump said at a White House event.