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Anti Federalist
11-20-2018, 02:55 PM
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Lots of data here... (https://crimeresearch.org/2018/06/more-misleading-information-from-bloombergs-everytown-for-gun-safety-on-guns-analysis-of-recent-mass-shootings/)



Study: 97.8% of Mass Shootings Since 1950 Occurred in ‘Gun-Free Zones’

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/20/study-97-8-percent-mass-shootings-since-1950-gun-free-zones/

20 Nov 2018

Findings from the Crime Prevention Research Center (CPRC) show that 97.8 percent of mass shootings over a 68-year period occurred in “gun-free zones.”

The study covers 1950 through May 2018. Otherwise, it would also include the November 7, 2018, mass public attack at Borderline Bar & Grill, in which 12 were killed. The November 19, 2018, attack at Chicago Mercy Hospital, where three were killed, would not be listed because it does not meet FBI criteria for a mass shooting, but it should, nevertheless, be noted that Borderline Bar and Mercy Hospital were both state-mandated gun-free zones.

According to CPRC, 97.8 percent of mass public shootings from 1950 to May 2018 occurred in gun-free zones. These include the Virginia Tech University attack, which killed 32 (April 16, 2007); the Fort Hood attack, which killed 13 (November 5, 2009); the Aurora movie theater attack, which killed 12 (July 20, 2012); the Sandy Hook Elementary School attack, which killed 26 (December 12, 2014); the D.C. Navy Yard attack, which killed 13 (September 16, 2013); the Chattanooga military base attack, which killed 5 (July 16, 2015); the Umpqua Community College attack, which killed 9 (October 1, 2015); the San Bernardino attack, which killed 14 (December 2, 2015); the Orlando Pulse attack, which killed 49 (June 12, 2016); the Parkland high school attack, which killed 17 (February 14, 2018); and the Santa Fe High School attack, which killed 10 (May 18, 2018).

For the purposes of highlighting errors in a report by Michael Bloomberg-funded Everytown for Gun Safety, CPRC also shows figures for a condensed time frame, from January 1998 to December 2015, demonstrating that even in that shorter period, 96.2 percent of all mass public shootings occurred in gun-free zones.

oyarde
11-20-2018, 03:12 PM
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Zippyjuan
11-20-2018, 03:13 PM
Is that why they chose those targets? Or did they choose targets where there were the largest number of people (or somebody at that location they had a beef with)? Is there any example of a shooter who said he chose location because it was a gun free zone?

https://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/feb/21/richard-corcoran/do-most-mass-shootings-happen-gun-free-zones/


There is not an agreed-upon definition of what constitutes a mass shooting -- even the federal government has cited various criteria at times.

FBI spokesman Stephen Fischer pointed to a 2012 law setting the threshold for a "mass killing" as three or more people killed, but another report by the federal Congressional Research Service says that "mass murder" has been defined generally as a threshold of four or more deaths. Lott points to the types of shootings the FBI included in this study of active shooter situations, but that study clearly says it isn’t covering all mass shootings.

Lott said he included mass shootings in which four or more were killed that occurred in public, and he excluded those that occurred within the commission of another crime such as an armed robbery.

Lott’s data showed that between 1988 and 2015, about 3.8 percent of mass shootings occurred in areas where guns were allowed.

Everytown for Gun Safety found that among 133 mass shootings between January 2009 and July 2015, 70 percent took place in private homes while 13 percent took place in "gun-free zones," where carrying of concealed guns were prohibited. Another 17 percent took place in public areas where the carrying of firearms are allowed.

If we use their figures and leave off the 70% in private homes, 43% of cases they looked at were in "gun free zones".

Anti Federalist
11-20-2018, 03:23 PM
Is that why they chose those targets? Or did they choose targets where there were the largest number of people (or somebody at that location they had a beef with)? Is there any example of a shooter who said he chose location because it was a gun free zone? Should we restrict large gatherings like churches, schools, movie theaters, concerts, shopping malls?

What is shows, amigo, is that mass shootings overwhelmingly happen in places where people cannot defend themselves.

It shows, that if there were less places like that, then the likelihood of mass shootings would decrease: either because of the deterrent factor, or simply by virtue of a good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun before they have a chance to rack up a large body count.

Zippyjuan
11-20-2018, 03:30 PM
What is shows, amigo, is that mass shootings overwhelmingly happen in places where people cannot defend themselves.

It shows, that if there were less places like that, then the likelihood of mass shootings would decrease: either because of the deterrent factor, or simply by virtue of a good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun before they have a chance to rack up a large body count.

Shooters know that law enforcement will soon be there with weapons- even if it is a "gun free zone". Does the threat of guns prevent them? Again, has a shooter ever claimed to use "gun free" as a major factor in their choice of targets? In most cases they chose targets because of some disagreement with somebody there- not because they felt there was no risk of getting shot back at. Many seemed to want to be killed.

The Vegas shooter didn't seem to have any dispute with the concert goers but was concerned about somebody having another gun so he barricaded his room to prevent them from getting in. Did his fear of getting interrupted dissuade him from shooting?

Do "gun free zones" attract shooters? What percent of "gun free zones" have experienced a mass shooting? It is thankfully a rare event.

Swordsmyth
11-20-2018, 03:33 PM
Is that why they chose those targets? Or did they choose targets where there were the largest number of people (or somebody at that location they had a beef with)? Is there any example of a shooter who said he chose location because it was a gun free zone?

https://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/feb/21/richard-corcoran/do-most-mass-shootings-happen-gun-free-zones/



If we use their figures and leave off the 70% in private homes, 43% of cases they looked at were in "gun free zones".
Did gun free zones do any good?

We know a good guy with a gun works.

Zippyjuan
11-20-2018, 03:38 PM
Did gun free zones do any good?

We know a good guy with a gun works.

What percent of "gun free zones" have experienced a mass shooting?

America has more guns per capita than any country. Do more guns dissuade mass shootings? (no, I am not saying take away anybody's guns).

Swordsmyth
11-20-2018, 03:40 PM
What percent of "gun free zones" have experienced a mass shooting?
What percent of the earth's surface has experienced a mass shooting?

What percent of mass shootings were prevented by a gun free zone?

RonZeplin
11-20-2018, 03:50 PM
https://youtu.be/vioWTwGiELo

Published on Oct 31, 2018
Mark Passio's presentation The True Meaning Of The 2nd Amendment, Part 2: Arms, Needs & Cowardcie, was originally given in Philadelphia, PA on June 26, 2018 as part of the Philadelphia Liberty On The Rocks.

In this presentation, Mark discusses how ALL weapons of any kind are included as part of the 2nd Amendment’s protection against the infringement of our Natural Right to Self-Defense. He explains that the true need for practical defense against government’s encroachment upon human rights ALWAYS trumps the perceived psychological “need” to “feel safe.” Mark goes on to examine the cowardice that underlies most human beings’ fear of Self-Defense and Rebellion.

Videographer: Sean McCann
Associate Producer: Leiha Boone
Video Editor: Mark Passio

Zippyjuan
11-20-2018, 03:52 PM
Published on Oct 31, 2018
Mark Passio's presentation The True Meaning Of The 2nd Amendment, Part 2: Arms, Needs & Cowardcie, was originally given in Philadelphia, PA on June 26, 2018 as part of the Philadelphia Liberty On The Rocks.

In this presentation, Mark discusses how ALL weapons of any kind are included as part of the 2nd Amendment’s protection against the infringement of our Natural Right to Self-Defense. He explains that the true need for practical defense against government’s encroachment upon human rights ALWAYS trumps the perceived psychological “need” to “feel safe.” Mark goes on to examine the cowardice that underlies most human beings’ fear of Self-Defense and Rebellion.

Videographer: Sean McCann
Associate Producer: Leiha Boone
Video Editor: Mark Passio

Cool! Nukes for everybody!

RonZeplin
11-20-2018, 04:23 PM
Cool! Nukes for everybody!

Maybe you'll get some respect now?

AZJoe
01-28-2019, 09:45 PM
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NorthCarolinaLiberty
01-28-2019, 11:44 PM
Shooters know that law enforcement will soon be there with weapons...

And by the same token, would you say that some shooters already know that some people are armed and already there?




In most cases they chose targets because of some disagreement with somebody there.


Link?

NorthCarolinaLiberty
01-28-2019, 11:53 PM
Is there any example of a shooter who said he chose location because it was a gun free zone?




Yes, I found one in literally two minutes. How many will I have to find before you run away like a coward and move on to the next big thread?



Just a couple of months ago, a young ISIS sympathizer planned a shooting at one of the largest churches in Detroit. An FBI wire recorded him explaining why he had picked the church as a target: “It’s easy, and a lot of people go there. Plus people are not allowed to carry guns in church. Plus it would make the news.”
https://nypost.com/2016/06/15/why-terrorists-target-gun-free-zones/

NorthCarolinaLiberty
01-29-2019, 12:10 AM
We know a good guy with a gun works.

There's even websites dedicated to it. I'd guess you and many other know about the one below, but posting it for those who don't know.




Self Defense Map

The map shows incidents recorded from August 1, 2011 – Present. There may be handful (less than a dozen stories) recorded prior to that.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xtDmEpOYp1I/Vl-mSth9DGI/AAAAAAAAAi0/TxUBFU7_lIs/s400/guns-map.jpg

http://gunssavelives.net/incident-map/

Occam's Banana
01-29-2019, 12:28 AM
Is there any example of a shooter who said he chose location because it was a gun free zone?

Yes, I found one in literally two minutes. How many will I have to find before you run away like a coward and move on to the next big thread?

Even if the answer to Zippy's question was "no", I can't imagine what he thinks that would show.

Like Willie Sutton's apocryphally famous answer as to why he robbed banks, it just stands to reason ...