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Krugminator2
11-17-2018, 07:05 PM
https://reason.com/volokh/2018/11/17/american-civil-liberties-union-rip



The ACLU no longer even pretends to believe in civil liberties.
Since the George W. Bush administration, the ACLU's dedication to its traditional civil libertarian mission has waned ever further. With the election of Donald Trump, its membership rolls have grown to almost two million, almost all of them liberal politically, few of whom are devoted to civil liberties as such. Meanwhile, the left in general has become less interested in, and in some cases opposed to, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the rights of the accused.


First, the ACLU ran an anti-Brett Kavanaugh video ad (https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/10/01/aclu_ad_kavanaugh_like_clinton_cosby_weinstein.htm l) that relied entirely on something that no committed civil libertarian would countenance, guilt by association. And not just guilt by association, but guilt by association with individuals that Kavanaugh wasn't actually associated with in any way, except that they were all men who like Kavanaugh had been accused of serious sexual misconduct. The literal point of the ad is that Bill Clinton, Harvey Weinstein, and Bill Cosby were accused of sexual misconduct, they denied it but were actually guilty; therefore, Brett Kavanaugh, also having been accused of sexual misconduct, and also having denied it, is likely guilty too.


Meanwhile, yesterday, the Department of Education released a proposed new Title IX regulation that provides for due process rights for accused students that had been prohibited by Obama-era guidance. Shockingly, even to those of us who have followed the ACLU's long, slow decline, the ACLU tweeted in reponse (https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/1063456843706585089) that the proposed regulation "promotes an unfair process, inappropriately favoring the accused." Even longtime ACLU critics are choking on the ACLU, of all organizations, claiming that due proess protections "inappropriately favor the accuse."
The ACLU had a clear choice between the identitarian politics of the feminist hard left, and retaining some semblance of its traditional commitment to fair process. It chose the former. And that along with the Kavanaugh ad signals the final end of the ACLU as we knew it. RIP.








The ACLU has been consistently horrible on almost everything but flag burning and making sure Jesus isn't allowed on government property.

Hopefully, libertarians abandon them completely as an ally.

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 07:14 PM
ACLU Comes Out Opposed to Due Process (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528477-ACLU-Comes-Out-Opposed-to-Due-Process) Started by dannno (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/member.php?10908-dannno), Today

acptulsa
11-17-2018, 07:19 PM
It's an embarrassment to its own heritage. It ought to be put out of its misery.

Co-opted is not too strong a word. Neither is corrupted.

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 07:21 PM
It's an embarrassment to its own heritage. It ought to be put out of its misery.

Co-opted is not too strong a word. Neither is corrupted.

It is fulfilling its heritage:

The ACLU’s chief founders were communists and communist sympathizers, including top Communist Party officials William Z. Foster, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn, and Louis Budenz. Roger N. Baldwin, another of the co-founders (and the ACLU’s executive director from 1920-1950) may not have been an official card-carrying CPUSA member, but he was a willing collaborator. He wrote:


I am for socialism.... I seek social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control by those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal.... I don’t regret being part of the communist tactic. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the communists wanted and I traveled the United Front road to get it.


Despite utilizing more moderate rhetoric than many of their earlier Bolsheviki forebears, the NLG and the ACLU have not swerved from their leftward course. Neither have they deviated from Comintern plan for exploiting immigration and migration issues to batter down our borders and transform the United States into a mere cog in a global socialist system. But don’t expect any of the fake journalists of the Fake News organizations to mention any of this.

More at: https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-ice-agitation (https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/immigration/item/29709-the-communists-behind-the-abolish-ice-occupy-ice-agitation)


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ThePaleoLibertarian
11-17-2018, 07:25 PM
They've been compromised for a while, though some chapters might still be clean. They defended Hans-Hermann Hoppe when he said that gays have higher time preference, under the rubric of academic freedom. I can't imagine they'd do that today.

Fox McCloud
11-20-2018, 03:21 AM
Pretty sad to be honest. I've always suspected the UCLA held to a more "civil rights" version of civil liberties (rather than one based on property rights/common law/negative rights) and this kinda confirms that, in my opinion.

Really really sad. I guess this means Institute for Justice is the go-to guys now.

Anti Federalist
11-20-2018, 08:41 AM
The ACLU has been consistently horrible on almost everything but flag burning and making sure Jesus isn't allowed on government property.

And Illinois Nazis.


Hopefully, libertarians abandon them completely as an ally.

Well, I never considered them to be one...marginally useful at times, that was about it.

Anti Federalist
11-20-2018, 08:42 AM
Really really sad. I guess this means Institute for Justice is the go-to guys now.

Been contributing and supporting them since Kelo v. New London.

oyarde
11-20-2018, 08:58 AM
ACLU has always been a bunch of evil fucks with an agenda that would on occasion represent a liberty . Just another great mistake among many others by the ignorant american masses by allowing them to grow and be funded .