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Anti Federalist
11-17-2018, 05:54 PM
Donald Trump: ‘I Like Nancy Pelosi’ and Will Help Her Win Race for Speaker

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/17/donald-trump-like-nancy-pelosi-will-help-win-race-speaker/

17 Nov 2018

President Donald Trump promised again on Saturday that he will help Rep. Nancy Pelosi win her race for speaker of the House of Representatives.
“She may need some votes. I will perform a wonderful service for her. I like her,” Trump said. “Can you believe it? I like Nancy Pelosi. She’s tough, and she’s smart, but she deserves to be speaker.”

The president discussed Pelosi’s bid for speaker on Saturday as he left the White House for his trip to California to view the devastation from the wildfires.

Trump criticized Democrats for “playing games” and “harassing” Pelosi but said he has plenty of Republican votes that he would get for her.

“I don’t imagine that she’d need too many, but whatever number of votes she needs … she’s got them from me automatically,” Trump said. “Tell the opposition, they’re wasting their time.”

Trump also voiced his support for Pelosi on Twitter.

“She deserves this victory, she has earned it,” Trump wrote on Twitter. “But there are those in her party who are trying to take it away. She will win!”

Pelosi needs 218 votes to become speaker in the House, and seventeen Democrats have signed a letter opposing her. Pelosi remains confident that she can withstand any challenge to her leadership position.

“I have overwhelming support in my caucus to be speaker of the House,” she said during a press conference on Thursday, claiming she had the votes necessary to win.

But Rep. Marcia Fudge confirmed that she is thinking about running, working to galvanize support before she makes a decision.

“I’ve been overwhelmed by the amount of support I’ve received,” she said to the Washington Post, guessing that approximately 30 Democrats are opposed to Pelosi.

Trump also expressed his support for Pelosi after the midterm elections, clarifying that he was sincere.

“There was nothing sarcastic about it,” he said. “It was really meant with very good intentions. I think she deserves it. She’s fought long and hard. She’s a very capable person.”

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 06:04 PM
LOL

Can you imagine the Demoncrat civil war that will break out if she wins with Republican votes?

dannno
11-17-2018, 06:06 PM
I think Trump can't wait to put her over his proverbial knee and spank her proverbial bottom.

enhanced_deficit
11-17-2018, 06:07 PM
Team work.

Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528188-Trump-quot-Nancy-Pelosi-loves-this-country-quot&)

Obama (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?213869-Obama-Pelosi-could-LOCK-DOWN-the-Intarwebs!&p=6709761&viewfull=1#post6709761) MAGA/Pelosi could LOCK DOWN the Intarwebs! (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?213869-Obama-Pelosi-could-LOCK-DOWN-the-Intarwebs!&p=6709761&viewfull=1#post6709761)


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e4/10/14/e41014339d49854f1f01a47fe78e7db1.jpg
https://i.redd.it/5gzk1ak057j01.jpg



The Truth About Nancy Pelosi

San Francisco's one current representative in Congress is Nancy Pelosi. Some view her positively, and she can talk the talk when in the right company. But she doesn't walk the walk on the biggest issues. In many ways, she's simply out of step with San Francisco.
Consider the Iraq War and the Patriot Act – issues on which the San Francisco Board of Supervisors and her constituents are on the record. On both issues, she's voted against the stated views of the people she represents. We live in a democracy, and she should expect to be held accountable for such votes.

1. WAR on Iraq



March 20, 2003 - The day after the war on Iraq was launched, as thousands upon thousands of her constituents were marching in the streets of San Francisco protesting the unilateral invasion, Pelosi was in Congress condemning the demonstrators. She voted that very day for a resolution declaring "unequivocal support and appreciation to the president...for his firm leadership and decisive action." And she used her leadership position in Congress to urge others to sign on to the resolution.
November 2, 2004 - In a referendum put to Pelosi's constituents, 63% voted in favor of the statement, "The federal government should take immediate steps to end the U.S. occupation of Iraq and bring our troops safely home now." This number, 63%, is surely low, as the entire city of San Francisco voted on it, while Pelosi only represents the city's more progressive eastern half.
January 12, 2005 - Two months after the November referendum, Bay Area Congressional Representatives Lynn Woolsey, Barbara Lee, Pete Stark, and Sam Farr joined Democratic colleagues from across the country in signing a letter to President Bush calling for the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. Pelosi conspicuously refused to sign on.
November 17, 2005 - Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) made a brave, groundbreaking call for immediate withdrawal from Iraq. Pelosi stood up and said, "Representative Murtha speaks for himself." And just one day later, on Nov. 18, 2006, she voted against immediate withdrawal from Iraq. She used her leadership position as House Democratic Leader to encourage others to oppose Murtha. Doing so helped to kill the momentum building at that time to force a timetable for troop withdrawals.
November 30, 2005 - Two weeks later (interestingly, just after local San Francisco Green Medea Benjamin spoke about possibly running against Pelosi), Pelosi reversed course and said she supported Murtha's call for immediate withdrawal. Still, she took no action and refused to use her leadership position to call for a 'party caucus position,' which would have put the majority of the Democratic Party on record against the war and shifted the national debate about the war. Indeed, at a point when two thirds of Americans had acknowledged that the invasion of Iraq was a mistake, and when a majority of Americans began saying that the time had come to start rectifying that mistake by bringing the troops home, Pelosi's actions stalled the national debate and weakened the Democratic Party's stance.
Pelosi has voted again and again to approve ever-increasing military spending. Year after year, she is a reliable ally of the military when they invariably request more. Of specific note, in 2002, she voted for a bill that allocated billions of new money for the development of new "low-yield," "usable" nuclear weapons. In 2003, she voted in favor of a bill that exempted the military from the Endangered Species Act and the Marine Mammal Protection Act.

2. PATRIOT ACT



Despite the opposition of San Franciscans, Pelosi did not join – let alone lead – the 66 legislators who opposed this Orwellian legislation. No, she voted for the Patriot Act, which gives enormous, unwarranted power to the executive branch, unchecked by meaningful judicial review. This new authority has been used against American citizens in routine criminal investigations unrelated to terrorism, against immigrants within our borders legally, and against those whose First Amendment activities are deemed by the Attorney General to be threats to national security. Again, she used her powerful leadership position in Congress to urge other representatives to vote with her.
See Pelosi's own words (http://www.garlicandgrass.org/The_Truth_About_Nancy_Pelosi.cfm#quotes) on her promise to "stand shoulder to shoulder with the President" on this and other erosions of civil liberties in the name of fighting terrorism.

3. NSA WIRETAPPING



Pelosi was one of very few legislators who learned about Bush's authorization of secret warrant-less wiretapping of U.S. citizens. She chose to go along with Bush's wishes and to say nothing for six months about this clear violation of the Constitution. "I was advised of President Bush's decision to provide [wiretapping] authority to the National Security Agency...and I have been provided with updates on several occasions," she acknowledged.

4. NAFTA



Pelosi voted for NAFTA (the North American Free Trade Agreement) and supported it throughout its tortuous path into law. She has supported, and continues to support, other similar laws that entrench and exacerbate the most exploitative types of globalization, and generally refuses to insist on environmental or labor clauses in these bills to mitigate their worst effects. While she finally did vote against CAFTA (the Central American Free Trade Agreement) during the highly contentious vote last July, she chose not to use her leadership position to convince others to follow her lead, effectively assuring its passage. CAFTA passed 217-215, with 15 Democrats voting for it.

5. NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND



Pelosi voted for this bill, another counter-intuitively named Bush law. In addition to, according to the latest Harvard study, accomplishing the opposite of its stated goal – bringing minority achievment up to national levels – this school 'reform' withholds federal money from any school which does not provide military recruiters not only with access to facilities, but also with contact information for every student. This bill also withholds federal money from any school district that prevents or denies students from participating in constitutionally protected prayer in public schools, and also withholds federal money to any school district that denies Boy Scouts the use of school facilities but allows other youth groups to use those same facilities.

6. Tax Cuts for the Wealthy



Pelosi has voted to support Bush's call for raising the debt ceiling to finance further military expenditures and saddle future generations with even higher debt payments. She also opposed a call from progressives to examine the effect of the 1.35 trillion dollar 2001 tax cut on the budget before voting on this bill to go further into debt.
She opposed an effort by progressives to raise the issue of corporate corruption during 2002, as Republicans were making a concerted attempt to make permanent the various temporary provisions in the $1.35 trillion Bush tax cut of 2001.




http://www.garlicandgrass.org/The_Truth_About_Nancy_Pelosi.cfm




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Jared’s is a guide for the future
Trump seizes on Jared Kushner’s bipartisan ‘road map’ for success
November 15, 2018
Top White House aide Jared Kushner’s quiet but successful bipartisan efforts to make deals on trade and justice issues have been seized on by President Trump as a blueprint for keeping his agenda alive on a divided Capitol Hill as he enters the 2020 re-election season.
“It’s a good road map,” said a Trump insider, adding, “Jared’s is a guide for the future.”
While others in the administration have used sharp elbows to get their way, Kushner, the president’s son-in-law, has mastered his own deal-making style that favors creating coalitions.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trump-seizes-on-jared-kushners-bipartisan-road-map-for-success

Brian4Liberty
11-17-2018, 06:07 PM
The devil you know...

enhanced_deficit
11-17-2018, 06:10 PM
The devil you know...

That goes against Drain The Sawmp promise though.

Or maybe "The Swamp You Know".

#Winning #MAGA

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 06:14 PM
That goes against Drain The Sawmp promise though.

Or maybe "The Swamp You Know".

#Winning #MAGA
Or maybe the best way to drain the swamp is to get the alligators to fight the pythons.

enhanced_deficit
11-17-2018, 06:30 PM
Or maybe the best way to drain the swamp is to get the alligators to fight the pythons.

Does it mean Pelosi is Swamp and MAGA was lying when he said this?
( Hint: He's leader of GOP Christian base and Bible sayeth Though Shall Not Lie)


Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528188-Trump-quot-Nancy-Pelosi-loves-this-country-quot&)

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 06:38 PM
Does it mean Pelosi is Swamp and MAGA was lying when he said this?
( Hint: He's leader of GOP Christian base and Bible sayeth Though Shall Not Lie)


Trump: "Nancy Pelosi loves this country" (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?528188-Trump-quot-Nancy-Pelosi-loves-this-country-quot&)

Trump lies with great frequency.

I leave it to each person to decide if politics (especially these days) is war by other means and if deception is justified in war and if so what limitations there may be on such justification of deception.

enhanced_deficit
11-17-2018, 06:48 PM
Trump lies with great frequency.

I leave it to each person to decide if politics (especially these days) is war by other means and if deception is justified in war and if so what limitations there may be on such justification of deception.

Ok, but I'm curious if you have an opinion on this. Was he lying in this particular case? Or you don't know , meaning you're open to the possibility that he was telling the truth about Pelosi?

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 06:50 PM
Ok, but I'm curious if you have an opinion on this. Was he lying in this particular case? Or you don't know , meaning you're open to the possibility that he was telling the truth about Pelosi?
I believe he is lying, he knows she hates this country.

enhanced_deficit
11-17-2018, 06:55 PM
I believe he is lying, he knows she hates this country.

Have to appreciate such candid expression of views.
+rep



Edit to add:
That's a lot of "lying" spread over decades though if he's been praising and funding her since 2007 at least.


You’re the Best,’ Trump Once Told Pelosi

May 1, 2017
WASHINGTON — The message came in a distant January, at the dawn of a power transfer in Washington — dictated, like so much would be in due time, by something Donald J. Trump saw in the news.

“Nancy — you’re the best,” Mr. Trump wrote to Nancy Pelosi at the beginning of 2007, scribbling on an article about her swearing-in as House speaker after Democrats seized control of the chamber. “Congrats. Donald.”

Mr. Trump had a small hand in her elevation. He had made a $20,000 donation to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/us/politics/trump-nancy-pelosi-congress.html

timosman
11-17-2018, 07:07 PM
I believe he is lying, he knows she hates this country.

He wants to run against Hillary and needs Pelosi to do that. :D

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 07:10 PM
He wants to run against Hillary and needs Pelosi to do that. :D
Among many other benefits he will gain by forcing her down the Demoncrats' throats.

timosman
11-17-2018, 07:11 PM
Among many other benefits he will gain by forcing her down the Demoncrats' throats.

He want be forcing her on anybody except for the few newly elected lunatics. :cool:

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 07:15 PM
He want be forcing her on anybody except for the few newly elected lunatics. :cool:
Many of the old guard are unhappy with the senile old hag as well.

aGameOfThrones
11-17-2018, 07:19 PM
If he supports her and she wins=dem party will fight with each other

If he supports her and she loses=dem party picks someone worst than nancy

Trump wins either way.

Anti Globalist
11-17-2018, 07:41 PM
It's ok we all know for a fact Trump hates Pelosi. He's only saying nice things about her now because he doesn't have a choice.

enhanced_deficit
11-17-2018, 07:49 PM
It's ok we all know for a fact Trump hates Pelosi. He's only saying nice things about her now because he doesn't have a choice.

Then he has been without choice for decades:


'You’re the Best,’ Trump Once Told Pelosi in 2007

WASHINGTON — The message came in a distant January, at the dawn of a power transfer in Washington — dictated, like so much would be in due time, by something Donald J. Trump saw in the news.

“Nancy — you’re the best,” Mr. Trump wrote to Nancy Pelosi at the beginning of 2007, scribbling on an article about her swearing-in as House speaker after Democrats seized control of the chamber. “Congrats. Donald.”

Mr. Trump had a small hand in her elevation. He had made a $20,000 donation to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/u...-congress.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/us/politics/trump-nancy-pelosi-congress.html)

Swordsmyth
11-17-2018, 07:52 PM
Then he has been without choice for decades:

'You’re the Best,’ Trump Once Told Pelosi in 2007

WASHINGTON — The message came in a distant January, at the dawn of a power transfer in Washington — dictated, like so much would be in due time, by something Donald J. Trump saw in the news.

“Nancy — you’re the best,” Mr. Trump wrote to Nancy Pelosi at the beginning of 2007, scribbling on an article about her swearing-in as House speaker after Democrats seized control of the chamber. “Congrats. Donald.”

Mr. Trump had a small hand in her elevation. He had made a $20,000 donation to the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/u...-congress.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/01/us/politics/trump-nancy-pelosi-congress.html)



He may have been keeping on the good side of those with power while he built his wealth and fame so that he could run for POTUS.

TheTexan
11-17-2018, 08:05 PM
“There was nothing sarcastic about it,” he said

Right ;)

Peace Piper
11-18-2018, 06:21 AM
The proper take on the Dumpsters latest outburst


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EYJxSr7XBo

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https://wmpics.pics/di-YFLM.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/reaZw9e.jpg

UWDude
11-18-2018, 10:18 AM
Dude has been president for two years, and you all still don't understand him.

I understood what he was up to right away, when I read his first tweet about Pelosi deserving the speakership, and getting R's to vote for her as such, and thought, "that'll never work... ..nobody would fall for that!"

I read the comments here, and... yup.... the regular suspects here still fall for it.

XD

Trumped again!!

TheTexan
11-18-2018, 11:50 AM
Dude has been president for two years, and you all still don't understand him.

I understood what he was up to right away, when I read his first tweet about Pelosi deserving the speakership, and getting R's to vote for her as such, and thought, "that'll never work... ..nobody would fall for that!"

I read the comments here, and... yup.... the regular suspects here still fall for it.

XD

Trumped again!!

They are checkers players,,,

not able to comprehend the complexities of higher strategy :)

enhanced_deficit
11-18-2018, 03:26 PM
Nancy Pelosi Took Donald Trump Impeachment Off the Table as Democrats Won House

By Tim Marcin On 11/7/18
https://www.newsweek.com/nancy-pelosi-donald-trump-impeachment-table-immediately-after-democrats-win-1205769



They are checkers players,,,

not able to comprehend the complexities of higher strategy :)


Pelosi's checkers no mtach for MAGA's 3D crossword puzzles.



Dude has been president for two years, and you all still don't understand him.

I understood what he was up to right away, when I read his first tweet about Pelosi deserving the speakership, and getting R's to vote for her as such, and thought, "that'll never work... ..nobody would fall for that!"

I read the comments here, and... yup.... the regular suspects here still fall for it.

XD

Trumped again!!

Yea, hopefully not Pelosi'd .. or worse SWAMP'd.

Origanalist
11-18-2018, 04:58 PM
Lol at this whole shitshow.

PAF
11-19-2018, 11:55 AM
How many republicans have dropped out of the system and no longer vote?

I personally am on to the system. But let's play that game for a moment...

If trump was principled which he is not, he would not have signed that omnibus. He also would not say take the guns first which states are now doing. Or endorse stop-frisk and a host of other things. Etc. etc.

If trump was principled which he is not, he would stand on conservative values, freedom and liberty, and bring every republican who dropped out of the system out from behind the woodwork. Perhaps the house and the senate would be republican. Which it is not.

Presidents do not make law. But they do "Set the Tone" for the American people. Right now, republicans are giving him a free pass because he has an "R" after his name. And further into tyranny we go.

Only now the price tag bill is bigger than ever before.

shakey1
11-19-2018, 12:37 PM
Lol at this whole $#@!show.

http://printablegraphics.in/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Do-you-concur-memes-images-5.jpg

Aratus
11-19-2018, 01:32 PM
The devil you know...

True...

Verses the younger one
you don't, new to d.c
yet willing to have Bernie
run anew once more...

CaptUSA
11-19-2018, 01:35 PM
Scary as shit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsYQVxQW0AA9xSF.jpg


As least she's honest about wanting the power.

Anti Federalist
11-19-2018, 02:12 PM
Scary as shit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsYQVxQW0AA9xSF.jpg

As least she's honest about wanting the power.

I was just coming in here to post that.

And the converse is true as well.

Nobody will give you freedom unless you take it, usually from people just like her.

Sadly, nobody seems to have the stomach for what that entails, so here we sit, losing freedom daily while people like this gain power daily.

oyarde
11-19-2018, 02:35 PM
Scary as shit.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsYQVxQW0AA9xSF.jpg


As least she's honest about wanting the power.

And passing bills to see what is in them .

Swordsmyth
11-19-2018, 08:00 PM
Sixteen House Democrats vowed on Monday to oppose Nancy Pelosi's bid to become speaker, calling the California Democrat's confident prediction of her speakership into question, reports Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/19/pelosis-bid-for-speaker-imperiled-as-public-opposition-grows-1005368).
https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/pelosi%20oh%20noi.jpg
In a controversial letter released on Monday, the Democrats opposing Pelosi called her a "historic figure," but noted that Democratic voters asked for "real change in Washington."
"Our majority came on the backs of candidates who said that they would support new leadership because voters in hard-won districts, and across the country, want to see real change in Washington. We promised to change the status quo, and we intend to deliver on that promise," the letter reads.

The show-of-force underscores the depth of the challenge facing Pelosi, who has led the caucus for 16 years.
Pelosi needs 218 votes among lawmakers present and voting to be elected speaker on Jan. 3. House Democrats have won 233 seats, meaning Pelosi can currently only afford to lose 15 votes.
The letter includes 12 incumbents, three incoming freshman and one candidate, Ben McAdams of Utah, whose race has not been called. -Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/19/pelosis-bid-for-speaker-imperiled-as-public-opposition-grows-1005368)
The letter does not include at least three additional Democratic lawmakers or incoming House members who have confirmed their intention to oppose Pelosi to Politico: Rep. Conor Lamb of Pennsylvania, Abigail Spanberger of Virginia and Jason Crow of Colorado.
The additional three would bring Pelosi's opposition to 19 members or members-elect - enough to keep her from becoming speaker should nothing change.
Pelosi has insisted for weeks that she will win the speaker vote and has no intention of withdrawing. That said, Monday's letter suggest Pelosi's "pressure campaign" (as Politico puts it) to gain the needed votes has fallen short so far, however her allies note that they still have over a month to persuade the "no" votes.
That said, it might not be as easy as she thinks:

Many of the letter’s signers have told POLITICO that nothing can buy them off — no plum committee posts or chairmanships, as have been used as a carrot for Pelosi critics in the past.
But Rep. Marcia Fudge, a Pelosi critic who is considering a bid for speaker as well, suggested to POLITICO in a Friday interview that Pelosi could possibly win her support should the Californian declare that she will only serve for one more term. Fudge had signed an earlier version of the letter but was not on the letter released Monday. -Politico (https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/19/pelosis-bid-for-speaker-imperiled-as-public-opposition-grows-1005368)
Pelosi's critics have been referred to as the "rebels" or "revolutionaries," and have the potential to "throw the entire party into chaos just as Democrats are trying to turn their fire on Donald Trump and pivot toward ousting the president in 2020."
Her opponents say she has hindered the party, however, and that she has put newly elected Democratic members in red or purple districts in political jeopardy if she forces incoming freshmen to vote for her.


More at: https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-19/fractured-democratic-party-fighting-over-pelosis-bid-house-speaker

It looks like she will need those GOP votes........................


https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi51.tinypic.com%2F2aafr10.jpg&f=1

fedupinmo
11-20-2018, 12:20 AM
You have to wonder who they would all vote for... if not Pelosi.

Swordsmyth
11-20-2018, 12:25 AM
You have to wonder who they would all vote for... if not Pelosi.

Occasio-Cortez?

AZJoe
11-20-2018, 02:14 AM
https://scontent-sjc3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46449255_10155136714982824_739731430094929920_n.pn g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_eui2=AeE7537ZykflLBilMcHt03CeQQrRUcMZUkZ8GJdHM cGnvS1I6Ik_LE33WXd_Kk110HVdvdwfDLVi44VJT0uxPHFCwjV II9MQSIRg8OUYnlkK0A&_nc_ht=scontent-sjc3-1.xx&oh=975d3d6ce05173429f60ef34df084af6&oe=5C64CACB

enhanced_deficit
11-20-2018, 11:55 AM
Dems ( except for new anti-Pelosi crazies, young rebels ) can't speak out against debt/military expansion, Syria/Iran/Yemen violence etc. To be fair, many tops Dems are funded by globally respected billionaire Soros just as MAGA's top funder is respected global minded billionaire Adelson.

enhanced_deficit
11-21-2018, 12:14 PM
Sixteen Democrats sign letter opposing Pelosi as speaker

“We believe more strongly than ever that the time has come for new leadership in our caucus,” the Democrats wrote.
Updated Nov. 19, 2018 / 4:13 PM EST

WASHINGTON — Sixteen Democrats on Monday released a letter announcing their opposition to electing Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., speaker of the House, presenting her a narrow path to reclaiming the speaker’s gavel in the next Congress.
The letter is the first concrete expression of opposition from current Democratic lawmakers and incoming members of Congress since the party won control of the House in the midterm elections.
Pelosi, who served as the first female speaker of the House from 2007 through 2011, and has been the top Democrat in the lower chamber since 2002 — has been aggressively campaigning for the speakership amid opposition from a small but vocal group of incumbents within her own party who have long advocated for new leadership and several incoming members who won election pledging they would oppose her as speaker.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/sixteen-democrats-sign-letter-opposing-pelosi-speaker-n938066

Swordsmyth
11-21-2018, 05:09 PM
Congresswoman-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez criticized the Democratic caucus opposing Rep. Nancy Pelosi’s bid for House Speaker by pointing out the demographic makeup of its members.
The incoming New York lawmaker’s comments came during a Monday evening conversation with MSNBC’s Chris Hayes.


“Well, for me when I was reading this letter that was kind of released today, my main concern was that there is no vision, there is no common value, there is no goal that is really articulated in this letter aside from we need to change,” Ocasio-Cortez told Hayes when asked about Monday’s letter (https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/19/nancy-pelosi-democrats-house-speaker/) — signed by 16 Democrats — who oppose Pelosi’s leadership.
After criticizing the concept of “changing our party leadership just for the sake of it,” Ocasio-Cortez (https://dailycaller.com/search/?q=ocasio-cortez) lamented the immutable characteristics shared by many in the group and the idea that the leadership could end up “more conservative.”
“I mean, if anything, I think that what it does is that it creates a window where we could potentially get more conservative leadership,” said Ocasio-Cortez. “And when you actually look at the signatories, it is not necessarily reflective of the diversity of the party. We have about 16 signatories, 14 of them are male. There are very few people of color in the caucus. There’s very few ideological diversity. It’s not like there are Progressives that are signing on. It’s not like you have a broad-based coalition. So I find it — you know, I’m not totally bought into the concept.”

More at: https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/19/ocasio-cortez-males-democrats-pelosi/

Swordsmyth
11-21-2018, 09:49 PM
As the days wear on and Americans get closer to Congressional inauguration day (January 3, 2019), it seems more and more likely that current House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi will become the Speaker of the House for the next legislative term.
Rep. Brian Higgins (D-New York) announced on Wednesday that, despite saying several months ago that he would oppose Pelosi to become Speaker, he has changed his mind. This about face comes on the heels of conversations with the California Democrat on issues surrounding healthcare and infrastructure, according to reporting from the Buffalo News (https://buffalonews.com/2018/11/21/higgins-in-a-reversal-will-back-pelosi/).
Higgins specifically wanted to see infrastructure across the nation become a major platform plank, and wanted to take the lead role in a proposal to allow Americans the chance to “buy-in” to Medicare as a healthcare option if they’re over the age of 50.




“I have an agreement in principle with the Democratic leader that those are going to be two priorities, and that I will be the lead person on the Medicare buy-in,” Higgins said.
Higgins’ reversal is a huge blow to an effort to oppose Pelosi as the next Speaker of the House. His name had been one of the 16 included in a letter — made public earlier this week — posted by a group of Democrats urging new leadership in the next Congress. With his change of heart, it seems that Pelosi’s appointment as the next speaker is all but assured at this point.


More at: https://www.inquisitr.com/5172905/democrat-brian-higgins-reverses-course-supports-nancy-pelosi-for-speaker-as-movement-to-unseat-her-crumbles/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=yahoo&utm_campaign=homepage

Working Poor
11-21-2018, 10:14 PM
:rolleyes: Yea right....

Swordsmyth
11-27-2018, 11:24 PM
Nancy Pelosi was expected on Wednesday to become the Democratic nominee for speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, giving her the inside track to reclaim the House's top job in January, when critics in her own party may seek to block her.The 78-year-old San Francisco liberal, a frequent target of Republican critics, faces a small faction of Democrats who are refusing to back her for the post in which she made history from 2007 to 2011 as the first woman speaker.
Pelosi critic Representative Kathleen Rice said on Tuesday that while the rebels could not stop Pelosi from getting the Democratic caucus' nomination for speaker at a closed-door party meeting on Wednesday, they could block her election on Jan. 3 when Pelosi must win a majority of the whole House, both Republicans and Democrats, to become speaker.
"We know what's going to happen tomorrow. The issue is still going to be whether she can get the votes on the floor. And the votes just aren't there," Rice told reporters outside the House.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/pelosi-expected-speaker-nomination-rebels-waiting-january-021051169.html

Swordsmyth
12-11-2018, 10:31 PM
As she works to lock down the few remaining holdouts against her bid to reclaim the House speaker’s gavel, Nancy Pelosi (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-meeting-schumer-pelosi-erupts-border-wall-funding/story?id=59751054) and the loudest critics of her succession plan have begun discussing instituting term limits for caucus and committee leaders, according to Democrats familiar with the conversations.
While Democrats decided to postpone discussion of term limits in their weekly caucus meeting on Tuesday, according to an aide in the room, the conversations have prompted a sensitive debate in the larger caucus, dominated by long-serving Democrats, with all but one committee set to be controlled by veteran ranking members of the party.
Pelosi, in public and private, has resisted putting an end date on her potential speakership (https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pelosi-wins-nomination-house-speaker-closed-door-caucus/story?id=59474849), arguing that it would make her a less effective leader.

More at: https://www.yahoo.com/news/nancy-pelosi-discussions-critics-over-possible-leadership-term-213006117.html?.tsrc=jtc_news_index

acptulsa
12-11-2018, 11:02 PM
“I mean, if anything, I think that what it does is that it creates a window where we could potentially get more conservative leadership,” said Ocasio-Cortez. “And when you actually look at the signatories, it is not necessarily reflective of the diversity of the party. We have about 16 signatories, 14 of them are male. There are very few people of color in the caucus. There’s very few ideological diversity. It’s not like there are Progressives that are signing on. It’s not like you have a broad-based coalition. So I find it — you know, I’m not totally bought into the concept.”

I've heard more cogent and rational reasons given for voting for junior high school class presidents.

Swordsmyth
12-12-2018, 09:19 PM
Rep. Nancy Pelosi all but ensured Wednesday that she will become House speaker next month, quelling a revolt by disgruntled younger Democrats by agreeing to limit her tenure to no more than four additional years in the chamber's top post.Within moments of announcing she would restrict her time in the job, seven of her critics distributed a statement promising to back the California Democrat.

Under the deal, House Democrats will vote by Feb. 15 to change party rules to limit their top three leaders to no more than four two-year terms, including time they've already spent in those jobs."I am comfortable with the proposal and it is my intention to abide by it whether it passes or not," Pelosi said in her statement.
Pelosi's opponents have argued it was time for younger leaders to command the party. They also said her demonization as an out-of-touch radical in tens of millions of dollars' worth of Republican television ads was costing Democrats seats.
While some Democrats are still certain to vote against Pelosi — especially incoming freshmen who promised to do so during their campaigns — most Democrats have remained solidly behind her. She's been a strong fundraiser and unrelenting liberal who doesn't shy from political combat, and her backers complained that her opponents were mostly white men who were largely more moderate than most House Democrats.


To be nominated to a fourth term under the agreement, Pelosi would need to garner a two-thirds majority of House Democrats. Several aides said they believed restlessness by younger members to move up in leadership would make that difficult for her to achieve.
The limits would also apply to Pelosi's top lieutenants, No. 2 leader Steny Hoyer of Maryland and No. 3 leader James Clyburn of South Carolina. Both are also in their late 70s.
Rep. Ed Perlmutter, D-Colo., was among 16 Democrats who had signed a letter demanding new leadership but who ultimately helped negotiate the deal with Pelosi.
Joining Perlmutter in saying they would now back her were Democratic Reps. Seth Moulton of Massachusetts; Tim Ryan of Ohio; Bill Foster of Illinois; Linda Sanchez and Rep.-elect Gil Cisernos, both of California; and Filemon Vela of Texas.

More at: https://news.yahoo.com/pelosi-foes-seem-near-deal-likely-paving-her-224618082--politics.html

enhanced_deficit
12-12-2018, 09:25 PM
No, Trump and Nancy Pelosi did not watch midterm election results together or made secret deal (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?529100-No-Trump-and-Nancy-Pelosi-did-not-watch-midterm-election-results-together-or-made-secret-deal&)