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Suzanimal
11-17-2018, 10:30 AM
The short video shows three California game wardens, armed and wearing bulletproof vests, demanding to search the home of Fred Seaman while he stands around, only partly dressed. He's a falconer in California, and he has been for 30 years.

The game wardens don't have a warrant, and they don't believe they need one to enter Seaman's home. Remarkably, this is happening because Seaman is attempting to follow the law. He's a legally licensed falconer in California, and part of California's regulations grants the state's Department of Fish and Wildlife the authority to conduct unannounced inspections of any facility where falcons are being cared for.

The regulations don't require that the wardens have reasonable suspicion that the birds are being mistreated or that any sort of illegal behavior is happening. And if Seaman resists or refuses to let them in, he could lose his falconry license and be forced to surrender the birds.

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Stavrianoudakis has been in Seaman's shoes. He tells Reason that in the 1980s he had game wardens show up unannounced for an inspection. He says they suspected he might have illegally imported a falcon from Nevada to California. He hadn't. Rather than getting a warrant, they just showed up claiming this inspection authority and handcuffing him in the process.

"In short, they've created a regulation that says the Fourth Amendment doesn't apply to a citizen engaged in the sport of falconry," Stavrianoudakis says. "I'm treated no differently from a common felon on parole." He keeps Ares in his home, which means that his wife, who is not a falconer, essentially has to give up her own privacy rights as well.

That's not the only right falconers give up. This lawsuit is against both the State of California's and the United States government's Fish and Wildlife Departments, because Washington also essentially censors falconers and imposes other unreasonable restrictions. Federal regulation makes it against the law to profit off licensed birds of prey. But the law specifically targets falconers and only birds of prey, not other exotic birds. If you have a pet toucan or ostrich, cash right in. But Stavrianoudakis is banned under federal law from using his aplomado falcon, named Ares, in "movies, commercials, or in other commercial ventures that are not related to falconry." He cannot allow Ares' image to be used in logos or to endorse any product unless it's related to falconry.

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https://reason.com/blog/2018/11/16/the-government-says-falconers-have-to-gi?fbclid=IwAR3jVa-sEN7YcgCHpi98xZF4mb9GLhejrfAM-mpG59-Cb-pzShQJDrzdEfA

oyarde
11-17-2018, 10:39 AM
Once CalExit is complete californians will be free to feed the game wardens to the lions and falcons

Grandmastersexsay
11-17-2018, 01:20 PM
Once CalExit is complete californians will be free to feed the game wardens to the lions and falcons

Pretty sure it is like this throughout most of the country.

Slave Mentality
11-17-2018, 01:30 PM
Falconer’s License. Burn it down already.

Dr.3D
11-17-2018, 01:41 PM
Amateur Radio stations have the same problem.


Q: The FCC Agent standing at my door does not have a search warrant, so I don't have to let him in, right?

A: Wrong. Search warrants are needed for entry involving criminal matters. One of the requirements as a licensee, or non-licensee subject to the Commission's Rules, is to allow inspection of your radio equipment by FCC personnel. Whether you operate an amateur station or any other radio device, your authorization from the Commission comes with the obligation to allow inspection. Even radio stations licensed under a "blanket" rule or approval, such as Citizen's Band (CB) Radio, are subject to the Commission's inspection requirement.
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet

kpitcher
11-17-2018, 02:22 PM
Amateur Radio stations have the same problem.


https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet

can FCC search any semi without a warrant because they have a CB?

Dr.3D
11-17-2018, 02:24 PM
can FCC search any semi without a warrant because they have a CB?
Looks like they can just inspect the CB radio without a warrant.

Danke
11-17-2018, 02:33 PM
can FCC search any semi without a warrant because they have a CB?

Don't need a license for a CB, maybe if it is a really powerful one?

DamianTV
11-17-2018, 04:19 PM
Falconer’s License. Burn it down already.

One of the many Plancks of the Communist Manifesto is to convert Rights into Privileges, then deny those Privileges by Default. Only those who are granted Permission bear their License of Permission. A License is in and of itself a flat out Denial of Right by Default.

TheTexan
11-17-2018, 04:23 PM
One of the many Plancks of the Communist Manifesto is to convert Rights into Privileges, then deny those Privileges by Default. Only those who are granted Permission bear their License of Permission. A License is in and of itself a flat out Denial of Right by Default.

I wonder how much a License to Breathe could go for. I imagine it would be a great source of tax revenue

DamianTV
11-17-2018, 04:25 PM
I wonder how much a License to Breathe could go for. I imagine it would be a great source of tax revenue

Agreed. Small problem is the number of people that would immediately claim to be Tax Exempt. And they would do so immediately if their own breathing came at the expense of everyone else. They would claim Tax Exemption, and still fail to recognize its another form of Socialism.

Dr.3D
11-17-2018, 04:40 PM
Don't need a license for a CB, maybe if it is a really powerful one?


Q: Well then, if I am a low-power broadcaster and don't have an FCC license, they need a search warrant, right?

A: Wrong again. The FCC agents have the authority to inspect all radio equipment; even if you do not have a license, the FCC can still inspect your equipment. Section 303(n) of the Act gives the FCC the right to inspect all "stations required to be licensed." This language covers your low-power radio station. The FCC agents are inspecting the equipment, not searching your house.
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet

TheTexan
11-17-2018, 05:15 PM
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet

So in other words, I can report you to the FCC and then you would have to let them search your house to prove you don't have any unlicensed radio equipment?

Neat!

Grandmastersexsay
11-17-2018, 05:37 PM
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet

I wonder if similar steps can be taken by the FCC with cell phones and wifi routers? Keyless entry for your car? How does the FCC know if you have modified these radio broadcasting devices without examination?

CCTelander
11-17-2018, 05:42 PM
https://www.fcc.gov/reports-research/guides/inspection-fact-sheet


There is no longer (since the 1970s) a requirement to have a license to operate a CB radio, so those regs simply do not apply in that case.

RonZeplin
11-17-2018, 09:19 PM
How can the FCC know that you haven't programed your garage door opener to play La Cucaracha on every device within 10 miles?

You must be inspected.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VILr1xH3io