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acptulsa
11-14-2018, 06:17 PM
Drug-War and Immigrant-War Tyranny https://www.fff.org/2018/11/14/drug-war-and-immigrant-war-tyranny/


Ludwig von Mises pointed out that one government intervention inevitably leads to more government interventions. The reason is that the first intervention inevitably causes a crisis. Rather than repeal the original intervention, public officials double down by enacting a new intervention to fix the crisis caused by the first intervention.

The second intervention, however, doesn’t fix the crisis but instead makes it worse, which then causes public officials to enact a third intervention, and a fourth, a fifth, and more. At the end of this interventionist road is a full-fledged police state, a type of society in which the freedom and privacy of the citizenry has been destroyed.

No better example of this phenomenon could be found than the war on drugs and the war on immigrants, which are actually interrelated. Both of these programs are decades-long, both of them have caused ongoing, never-ending crises, and they are both characterized by a endless series of government interventions, all of which have produced a drug-war and immigration-war police state, especially in the American Southwest.

Right now in New York City, U.S. officials are beginning their criminal prosecution of Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, the alleged leader of the notorious Sinaloa drug cartel, which supposedly has smuggled 200 tons of cocaine into the United States.

Needless to say, the mainstream press is all gaga-gaga over El Chapo’s prosecution, making it front-page news. But of course, they won’t ask the important question: What will the prosecution accomplish other than put El Chapo into jail for the rest of his life?

I grew up in Laredo, Texas, which is located on the Texas-Mexican border. After graduating from law school, I returned to Laredo in the mid-1970s to practice law. I have seen this drug war since I was in high school. Nothing has changed. Back then, they were busting drug lords and drug cartels, just like they’re doing today with their prosecution of El Chapo.

In fact, just go watch the three seasons of Narcos on Netflix and you’ll see what I mean. Year after year, decade after decade, the pattern has repeated itself. Drug lord busted and drug cartel eradicated. Big criminal prosecution. Massive publicity in the mainstream press. Higher budgets for the DEA and other drug-war law enforcement agencies. Guaranteed jobs for federal judges, federal prosecutors, and court clerks.

And then: New drug lord and new drug cartel takes the place of the old drug lord and old drug cartel. And the game starts all over again.

With each drug bust, officials get angry and frustrated, which causes them to enact new interventions. Mandatory-minimum sentences. Asset-forfeiture. No-knock raids. Harassment and abuse of African-Americans and Hispanics. Mass incarceration. Snitches. Illegal searches and seizures. Planted drugs.

But none of it works to end the so-called drug crisis. If it had worked, there wouldn’t be a prosecution of El Chapo today. His prosecution is a confirmation that the many decades of drug-war intervention have not worked.

The drug war, of course, has been a favorite government program for both conservatives and liberals. What these people are unable to realize is that it is their drug war itself that has produced the drug lords and the drug cartels. Without the drug war, the drug lords and drug cartels would ceae to exist. But rather than end the drug war, conservatives and liberals just keep doubling down and, in the process, destroy the freedom and privacy of the Americans people with their drug-war police state.

For example, a conservative website called the Patriot Post has just published an article entitled “Drug Cartels Are a Real Border Threat” by a conservative named Arnold Ahlert, who details the existence of a large number of drug cartels, which, he says, pose a grave threat to America. But rather than asking himself why all these cartels exist after decades of the drug war, Ahlert engages in the predictable: He calls for more intervention.

Ahlert’s idea is to treat the drug war like the war on terrorism. Well, it’s not difficult to figure out what that would mean. Indefinite detention, torture, assassination, Gitmo, military tribunals, denial of due process, denial of trial by jury, and, well, a permanent suspension of constitutional protections against tyranny and oppression on the part of the federal government.

It’s no different in the war on immigrants. At first, statists enacted a law that said, “No entry without permission.” Nobody complied with it. And so a long series of enforcement interventions were enacted, just as Mises said they would be. Fixed highway checkpoints. Searches of Greyhound buses. Roving Border Patrol checkpoints. Warrantless trespasses onto ranches and farms. Making it a felony offense to hire, transport, or harbor an illegal immigrant. Forcing people to disrobe so that federal agents can closely examine their body cavities. Forcing people to turn over their passwords so that federal agents can explore their cell phones. Violent raids on private businesses. Forcible separation of children from parents. Forced deportations. A Berlin Fence and a proposed Berlin Wall. Eminent domain to steal people’s property.

And to what avail? Like the drug war, I’ve seen this perpetual crisis in immigration since I was a kid growing up on the border in Laredo. Yes, the immigration crisis has been with us for decades! It has never gone away. There is a simple reason for that: immigration controls are the cause of the crisis. All that subsequent interventions have done over the decades is make the crisis worse, not the mention the fact that they have accelerated the destruction of liberty and privacy of the American people, just like the drug war has.

A dark irony in all this is that the drug lords and drug cartels that the drug war has brought into existence have ravaged Mexico and Central America with violence, death, corruption, and destruction, which has motivated thousands of people to flee to the United States to save their lives, which, in turn, has caused statists, both conservatives and liberals, to go ballistic in fear over the coming “invaders,” which include penniless, unarmed women and toddlers.

There is one — and only one — solution to all this statist morass. That solution is freedom and free markets. That necessarily means the end of the drug war — i.e., the legalization of all drugs, which would put all the drug lords and drug cartels out of business immediately. It also necessarily means free trade and open immigration — i.e., the free movements of goods, services, and people across borders, which would end all the death and suffering produced by America’s system of immigration controls. The end of the war on drugs and the war on immigrants would, of course, also mean the end of America’s drug-war police state and its immigration police state.

Anti Globalist
11-14-2018, 06:18 PM
End the war on drugs and the welfare state.

Swordsmyth
11-14-2018, 06:20 PM
https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationa...em-immigration (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration)

03/28/2017Joseph T. Salerno (https://mises.org/profile/joseph-t-salerno)

In the current discussion about immigration, Ludwig von Mises is often invoked by libertarians as a staunch proponent of free trade in the broad sense that pertains to the free movement of goods, capital, and labor. Mises has even been proclaimed by some libertarians as an advocate of open borders. However, Mises’s views on the free migration of labor across existing political borders were carefully nuanced and informed by political considerations based on his first-hand knowledge of the deep and abiding conflicts between nationalities in the polyglot states of Central and Eastern Europe leading up to World War One and during the subsequent interwar period. Thus Mises did not evaluate immigration in terms of purely economic optima such as maximizing the productivity of human labor, irrespective of the political context. Rather, he assessed the effects of immigration from the viewpoint of the classical liberal regime of private property. My purpose in this short essay is to set forth Mises’s views on immigration as he developed them as an integral part of the classical liberal program he elaborated. I shall not attempt to criticize or evaluate his views.
Liberal Nationalism

For Mises, liberalism first emerged and expressed itself in the nineteenth century as a political movement in the form of “peaceful nationalism.” Its two fundamental principles were freedom or, more concretely, “the right of self-determination of peoples” and national unity or the “nationality principle.” The two principles were indissolubly linked. The primary goal of the liberal nationalist movements (Italian, Polish, Greek, German, Serbian, etc.) was the liberation of their peoples from the despotic rule of kings and princes. Liberal revolution against despotism necessarily took on a nationalist character for two reasons. First, many of the royal despots were foreign, for example, the Austrian Hapsburgs and French Bourbons who ruled the Italians, and the Prussian king and Russian Czar who subjugated the Poles. Second, and more important, political realism dictated “the necessity of setting the alliance of the oppressed against the alliance of the oppressors in order to achieve freedom at all, but also the necessity of holding together in order to find in unity the strength to preserve freedom”. This alliance of the oppressed was founded on national unity based on a common language, culture, and modes of thinking and acting.
Even though forged in wars of liberation, liberal nationalism was for Mises both peaceful and cosmopolitan. Not only did the separate national liberation movements view each other as brothers in their common struggle against royal despotism, but they embraced the principles of economic liberalism, “which proclaims the solidarity of interests among all peoples.” Mises stresses the compatibility of nationalism, cosmopolitanism, and peace (https://mises.org/library/nation-state-and-economy/html/p/396):

[T]he nationality principle includes only the rejection of every overlordship; it demands self-determination, autonomy. Then, however, its content expands; not only freedom but also unity is the watchword. But the desire for national unity, too, is above all thoroughly peaceful. . . . [N]ationalism does not clash with cosmopolitanism, for the unified nation does not want discord with neighboring peoples, but peace and friendship.1 (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnote1_313rkup)
As a classical liberal, Mises is careful to specify that the right of self-determination is not a collective right but an individual right: “It is not the right of self determination of a delimited national unit, but rather the right of the inhabitants of every territory to decide on the state to which they wish to belong.” Mises makes it crystal clear that self-determination is an individual right that would have to be granted to “every individual person . . . if it were in any way possible.” It should also be noted in this respect that Mises rarely speaks of the “right of secession,” perhaps because of its historical connotation of the right of a government of a subordinate political unit to withdraw from a superior one.
While championing of self-determination as an individual right, Mises argues that the nation has a fundamental and relatively permanent being independent of the transient state (or states) which may govern it at any given time. Thus he refers to the nation as “an organic entity [which] can be neither increased nor reduced by changes in states.” Accordingly, Mises characterizes a man’s “compatriots” as “those of his fellow men with whom he shares a common land and language and with whom he often forms an ethnic and spiritual community as well.” In the same vein, Mises cites the German author J. Grimm, who refers to the “natural law . . . that not rivers and not mountains form the boundary lines of peoples and that for a people that has moved over mountains and rivers, its own language alone can set the boundary.” The nationality principle therefore implies that liberal nation-states may comprise a monoglot people inhabiting geographically non-contiguous regions, provinces and even villages. Mises contends that nationalism is thus a natural outcome of and in complete harmony with individual rights: “The formation of [liberal democratic] states comprising all the members of a national group was the result of the exercise of the right of self determination, not its purpose.”2 (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnote2_r0o75kg)
It should be noted here that, in contrast to many modern libertarians who view individuals as atomistic beings who lack emotional affinities and spiritual bonds with selected fellow humans, Mises affirms the reality of the nation as “an organic entity.” For Mises the nation comprises humans who perceive and act toward one another in a way that separates them from other groups of people based on the meaning and significance the compatriots attach to objective factors such as shared language, traditions, ancestry and so on. Membership in a nation, no less than in a family, involves concrete acts of volition based on subjective perceptions and preferences with respect to a complex of objective historical circumstances. According to Murray Rothbard, who shares Mises’s view of the reality of the nation separate from the state apparatus (https://mises.org/blog/nations-consent):

Contemporary libertarians often assume, mistakenly, that individuals are bound to each other only by the nexus of market exchange. They forget that everyone is necessarily born into a family, a language, and a culture. Every person is born into one of several overlapping communities, usually including an ethnic group, with specific values, cultures, religious beliefs, and traditions. . . . The ‘nation’ cannot be precisely defined; it is a complex and varying constellation of different forms of communities, languages, ethnic groups or religions. . . . The question of nationality is made more complex by the interplay of objectively existing reality and subjective perceptions.
Colonialism as the Denial of the Right of Self-Determination

Unlike many late 19th- and early 20th-century liberals, Mises was a passionate anti-colonialist. As a radical liberal, he recognized the universality of the right of self determination and the nationality principle for all peoples and races. He wrote powerful and scathing indictments against the European subjugation and mistreatment of African and Asian peoples and demanded a quick and complete dismantling of colonial regimes. It is worthwhile quoting Mises on this at length (https://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition/html/p/43):

The basic idea of colonial policy was to take advantage of the military superiority of the white race over the members of other races. The Europeans set out, equipped with all the weapons and contrivances that their civilization placed at their disposal, to subjugate weaker peoples, to rob them of their property, and to enslave them. Attempts have been made to extenuate and gloss over the true motive of colonial policy with the excuse that its sole object was to make it possible for primitive peoples to share in the blessings of European civilization. . . . Could there be a more doleful proof of the sterility of European civilization than that it can be spread by no other means than fire and sword?
No chapter of history is steeped further in blood than the history of colonialism. Blood was shed uselessly and senselessly. Flourishing lands were laid waste; whole peoples destroyed and exterminated. All this can in no way be extenuated or justified. The dominion of Europeans in Africa and in important parts of Asia is absolute. It stands in the sharpest contrast to all the principles of liberalism and democracy, and there can be no doubt that we must strive for its abolition. . . . European conquerors . . . have brought arms and engines of destruction of all kinds to the colonies; they have sent out their worst and most brutal individuals as officials and officers; at the point of the sword they have set up a colonial rule that in its sanguinary cruelty rivals the despotic system of the Bolsheviks. Europeans must not be surprised if the bad example that they themselves have set in their colonies now bears evil fruit. In any case, they have no right to complain pharisaically about the low state of public morals among the natives. Nor would they be justified in maintaining that the natives are not yet mature enough for freedom and that they still need at least several years of further education under the lash of foreign rulers before they are capable of being, left on their own.
In those areas where native peoples were strong enough to mount armed resistance to colonial despotism, Mises enthusiastically supported and cheered on these national liberation movements: “In Abyssinia, in Mexico, in the Caucasus, in Persia, in China—everywhere we see the imperialist aggressors in retreat, or at least already in great difficulties.”
To completely phase out colonialism, Mises proposed the establishment of a temporary protectorate under the aegis of the League of Nations. But he made it clear that such an arrangement was “to be viewed only as a transitional stage” and that the ultimate goal must be “the complete liberation of the colonies from the despotic rule under which they live.” Mises based his demand for the recognition of the right of self-determination and respect for the nationality principle among colonized peoples on the bedrock of individual rights:

No one has a right to thrust himself into the affairs of others in order to further their interest, and no one ought, when he has his own interests in view, to pretend that he is acting selflessly only in the interest of others.
The Breakdown of Liberal Nationalism: Majority Rule and Nationality Conflicts

This bring us to Mises’s key insight into the irreconcilable “conflict of nationalities” bred by majority rule—even under liberal democratic constitutions. As a keen observer of the pre- and post Great War polyglot states of Central and Eastern Europe, Mises noted that “national struggles can only arise on the soil of freedom.” Thus as prewar Austria approached freedom, “the violence of the struggle between the nationalities grew.” With the collapse of the old royalist state, these struggles were “carried on only more bitterly in the new states, where ruling majorities confront national minorities without the mediation of the authoritarian state, which softens much harshness.” Mises attributes such a counterintuitive outcome to the fact that the nationality principle was not respected in the creation of the new states. Mises’s point is illustrated in the modern ethnic conflicts that erupted in the wake of the collapse of Communism and the breakup of the Soviet Union and of Yugoslavia.3 (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnote3_fpmpxm7)
Mises maintains that two or more “nations” cannot peacefully coexist under a unitary democratic government. National minorities in a democracy are “completely politically powerless” because they have no chance of peacefully influencing the majority linguistic group. The latter represents “a cultural circle that is closed” to minority nationalities and whose political ideas are “thought, spoken, and written in a language that they do not understand.” Even where proportional representation prevails, the national minority “still remains excluded from collaboration in political life.” According to Mises, because the minority has no prospect of one day attaining power, the activity of its representatives “remains limited from the beginning to fruitless criticism . . . that . . . can lead to no political goal.” Thus, concludes Mises, even if the member of the minority nation, “according to the letter of the law, be a citizen with full rights . . . in truth he is politically without rights, a second class citizen, a pariah.”
Mises characterizes majority rule as a form of colonialism from the point of view of the minority nation in a polyglot territory: “ signifies something quite different here than in nationally uniform territories; here, for a part of the people, it is not popular rule but foreign rule.” Peaceful liberal nationalism therefore is inevitably stifled in polyglot territories governed by a unitary state, because, Mises argues, “democracy seems like oppression to the minority. Where only the choice is open oneself to suppress or be suppressed, one easily decides for the former.” Thus, for Mises, democracy means the same thing for the minority as “subjugation under the rule of others,” and this “holds true everywhere and, so far, for all times.” Mises dismisses “the often cited” counter-example of Switzerland as irrelevant because local self-rule was not disturbed by “internal migrations” between the different nationalities. Had significant migration established the presence of substantial national minorities in some of the cantons, “the national peace of Switzerland would already have vanished long ago.”
With respect to regions inhabited by different nationalities, Mises therefore concludes, “the right of self-determination works to the advantage only of those who comprise the majority.” This is especially true, for example, in interventionist states where education is compulsory and “peoples speaking different languages live together side by side and intermingled in polyglot confusion.” Under these conditions, formal schooling is a source of “spiritual coercion” and “one means of oppressing nationalities.” The very choice of the language of instruction can “alienate children from the nationality to which their parents belong” and “over the years, determine the nationality of a whole area.” The school thus becomes the source of irreconcilable national conflict and “a political prize of highest importance.” With respect to the debate over compulsory education, Mises emphasizes, the only effective solution is to depoliticize schooling by abolishing both compulsory education laws and political involvement with schools, leaving the education of children “entirely to parents and to private associations and institutions.”
Compulsory education is only an extreme example of how interventionism exacerbates the inevitable conflict between different nationalities that are living together under the jurisdiction of a single state. In such a situation, Mises argues: “Every interference on the part of government in economic life can become a means of persecuting the members of nationalities speaking a language different from that of the ruling group.” Perhaps Mises’s most important insight, however, is that even under a laissez-faire system, where government is rigorously restricted to “protecting and preserving the life, liberty, property and health of the individual citizen,” the political arena will still degenerate into a battleground between disparate nationalities residing within its geographical jurisdiction. Even the routine activities of the police and judicial system in this ideal liberal regime “can become dangerous in areas where any basis at all can be found for discriminating between one group and another in the conduct of official business.”4 (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnote4_ubx8egl) This is especially true in states where “differences of religion, nationality, or the like have divided the population into groups separated by a gulf so deep as to exclude every impulse of fairness or humanity and to leave room for nothing but hate.” Mises gives the example of a judge “who acts consciously, or still more often unconsciously, in a biased manner” because he believes “he is fulfilling a higher duty when he makes use of the powers and prerogatives of his office in the service of his own group.”
Not only is the member of a national minority subjected to ingrained and routine bias in the political sphere, he is unable to grasp the thought and ideology that shape political affairs. His social and political worldview as well as his cultural and religious attitudes reflect ideas formulated and discussed in the national literature of a foreign language, and these ideas diverge, possibly radically, from those of the majority linguistic group. According to Mises even though political and cultural ideas are transmitted and shared among all nations, “every nation develops currents of ideas in its own special way and assimilates them differently. In every people they encounter another national character and another constellation of conditions.” Mises gives the example of how the political ideal of socialism differed between Germany and France, and between the latter two and Russia.
The result of this natural “nationalizing” and differentiating of even similar ideas and intellectual trends is that the member of the minority nation confronts a linguistic and intellectual barrier that prevents him from meaningfully participating in the political discussion that shapes the laws under which he lives. Explains Mises (https://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition/html/p/41):

Cast into the form of statute law, the outcome of [the majority’s] political discussions acquires direct significance for the citizen who speaks a foreign tongue, since he must obey the law; yet he has the feeling that he is excluded from effective participation in shaping the will of the legislative authority or at least that he is not allowed to cooperate in shaping it to the same extent as those whose native tongue is that of the ruling majority. And when he appears before a magistrate or any administrative official as a party to a suit or petition, he stands before men whose political thought is foreign to him because it developed under different ideological influences. . . . At every turn the member of a national minority is made to feel that he lives among strangers and that he is, even if the letter of the law denies it, a second-class citizen.
The result of the political impotence of the national minority in a majoritarian democracy is that it perceives itself to be a conquered or colonized people. For as Mises points out: “The situation of having to belong to a state to which one does not wish to belong is no less onerous if it is the result of an election than if one must endure it as the consequence of a military conquest. . . .” In the 1920s Mises had already identified the phenomenon of what today is misleadingly called “institutional racism”— because the problem lies not with all institutions, only political ones — but is better described as “democratic subjugation.” In the1960s, Malcolm X (1963) gave poignant expression (http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxt14.html.) to the yearning for self-determination on the part of minority African nationalities in the U.S., saddled with an interventionist state controlled by peoples of European extraction:

This new type of black man, he doesn't want integration; he wants separation. Not segregation, separation. To him, segregation . . . means that which is forced upon inferiors by superiors. . . . In the white community, the white man controls the economy, his own economy, his own politics, his own everything. That's his community. But at the same time while the Negro lives in a separate community, it's a segregated community. Which means it's regulated from the outside by outsiders. The white man has all of the businesses in the Negro community. He runs the politics of the Negro community. He controls all the civic organizations in the Negro community. This is a segregated community. . . . We don't go for segregation. We go for separation. Separation is when you have your own. You control your own economy; you control your own politics; you control your own society; you control your own everything. You have yours and you control yours; we have ours and we control ours.
In analyzing the causes and solution of nationality conflicts, Mises coined the terms “militant” or “aggressive” nationalism, which he contrasted with “liberal” or “peaceful” nationalism. Thus for Mises, the choice was never between nationalism and a bland, atomistic “globalism”; the real choice was either nationalism that was cosmopolitan and embraced universal individual rights and free trade or militant nationalism intent on subjugating and oppressing other nations. He attributed the rise of anti-liberal nationalism to the failure to apply the right of self-determination and the nationality principle consistently and to the utmost degree possible in the formation of new political entities in the wake of the overthrow of royal despotism by war or revolution. The consequence was peoples differentiated by language, heritage, religion, etc. artificially and involuntarily bound together by arbitrary political ties. The inevitable outcome of these polyglot, mixed-nation-states was the suppression of minorities by the majority nationality, a bitter struggle for control of the state apparatus, and the creation of mutual and deep-seated distrust and hatred.5 (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnote5_y9cpy68) This state of affairs often culminated in state-sanctioned physical violence, including the expropriation and expulsion and even the murder of minority populations.
Freedom of Movement Versus the Right of Self-Determination of Peoples

Mises argues that all of this could have been avoided if only the full liberal agenda which includes, in addition to an economic policy of domestic laissez-faire and international free trade in goods, the crucial right of self-determination and the nationality principle to which it gives rise. Mises does not mince words (https://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition/html/p/42) in describing the plight of minorities in an illiberal, interventionist system:

If the government of these territories [inhabited by members of several nationalities] is not conducted along completely liberal lines, there can be no question of even an approach to equal rights in the treatment of the members of the various national groups. There can then be only rulers and those ruled. The only choice is whether one will be hammer or anvil.
Mises goes further, however, and argues that even an end to interventionism will not resolve the conflict of nationalities. Almost alone among classical liberals of his era and modern libertarians, Mises clearly recognizes that laissez-faire capitalism and free trade are necessary but not sufficient to ensure peace among different groups of individuals forced to live under a unified political system who voluntarily and naturally self-identify as different peoples or nations on the basis of language, shared customs and traditions, religion, heritage or any other objective factor that is subjectively meaningful for them. As Mises states (https://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition/html/p/41)

All these disadvantages [experienced by minorities] are felt to be very oppressive even in a state with a liberal constitution in which the activity of the government is restricted to the protection of the life and property of the citizens[I]. But they become quite intolerable in an interventionist or socialist state.
For Mises the best that can be said of a government whose functions are strictly limited to protection of person and property and enforcement of contract is that it does not “aggravate artificially the friction that must arise from this living together of different groups.”
Mises defends the complete liberal agenda—the laissez-faire and the nationality principles—against those who vacuously attribute the “violent antagonisms” between nations inhabiting a single political jurisdiction to an “innate antipathy” between different peoples. To the contrary, argues Mises, despite the hatreds that may naturally exist between various groups of people of the same nationality, they are able to get along peacefully when living under the jurisdiction of the same state, while different nationalities that are forcibly bound together under common political arrangements are in constant conflict (https://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition/html/p/41):

The Bavarian hates the Prussian; the Prussian, the Bavarian. No less fierce is the hatred existing among individual groups within both France and Poland. Nevertheless, Germans, Poles, and Frenchmen manage to live peacefully within their own countries. What gives the antipathy of the Pole for the German and of the German for the Pole a special political significance is the aspiration of each of the two peoples to seize for itself political control of the border areas in which Germans and Poles live side by side and to use it to oppress the members of the other nationality. What has kindled the hatred between nations to a consuming fire is the fact that people want to use the schools to estrange children from the language of their fathers and to make use of the courts and administrative offices, political and economic measures, and outright expropriation to persecute those speaking a foreign tongue.
So it is not natural antipathies between peoples—which may or may not exist—but the political denial of the right of self-determination that is the underlying cause of national conflicts. In this vein, Mises issues a dire and, in hindsight, prescient warning: “As long as the liberal program is not completely carried out in the territories of mixed nationality, hatred between members of different nations must become ever fiercer and continue to ignite new wars and rebellions.” This is certainly true of today’s world, particularly in Asia and Africa, where European imperialists and colonialists dragooned different “nations” (tribes, chiefdoms, linguistic groups, ethnicities, religions) into deeply dysfunctional political unions. Most of the forty wars currently being waged on these continents are “intrastate” or civil wars and, of these, most are “fueled as much by racial, ethnic, or religious animosities as by ideological fervor (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/index.html).” At their root lie the attempts of minority groups to resist or end oppression by the majority by either seizing the existing state apparatus, seceding from the state, or creating an entirely new state, e.g., ISIL.
This brings us to the vexed question of immigration. Mises summarily dismisses the purely economic arguments against free immigration as fallacious. He points out that, from the global point of view, migration raises the productivity of human labor, the supply of goods, and standards of living because it facilitates the reallocation of labor (and capital) from regions with less advantageous natural conditions of production to those with more advantageous natural conditions. Barriers to labor migration therefore cause a misallocation of labor and its geographic mal-distribution, with a relative oversupply in some areas and undersupply in other areas. The effects of migration barriers are thus exactly the same as the effects of tariffs and other barriers to the international trade of goods: the reduction of productive efficiency and income because comparatively unfavorable opportunities for production are exploited in some regions while comparatively favorable opportunities remain unutilized in others.
Although Mises argues that free movement of goods, capital and labor tends to maximize the productivity of labor and the total output of goods and services, he does not envision this as the ultimate goal of liberalism. As Mises argues in another connection, it was a mistake to believe “that the essence of liberal programs was not private property but ‘free competition’ .” The same also applies when evaluating the social desirability of labor migration: the welfare standard for Mises and classical liberals is not the “economistic,” Chicago-school goals of production efficiency or maximum labor productivity measured in pecuniary terms but the securing of a full private property regime. For it is the operation of the unhampered market based on private property that best satisfies consumer preferences for exchangeable and non-exchangeable goods, which is the ultimate goal of all economic activity. In his brilliant but neglected analysis of the labor market in his economic treatise, Human Action, Mises points out that even the completely unhampered migration of labor across political boundaries does not lead to maximum labor productivity and a distribution of labor that equalizes wage rates for the same kind and quality of labor services throughout the global economy. The reason?

The worker and the consumer are the same person (https://mises.org/library/human-action-0/html/pp/830). . . . Men cannot sever their decisions concerning the utilization of their working power from those concerning the enjoyment of their earnings. Descent, language, education, religion, mentality, family bonds, and social environment tie the worker in such a way that he does not choose the place and the branch of his work merely with regard to the height of wage rates. [Paragraph break suppressed.]
In discussing labor migration Mises therefore shifts the focus from the analytical abstraction of the “laborer” seeking the highest wages consonant with his leisure preferences to the real human actor who demonstrates preferences across a broad range of goals that include non-exchangeable goods like close proximity and association with members of the same family, religious affiliation, ethnicity or language group. Consequently, Mises explicitly recognizes that once the outdated assumptions underlying the free-trade doctrine advanced by Ricardo and the classical economists are dropped, and the international mobility of capital and labor as well as goods is considered, the case for free trade, while it remains valid “from the purely economic point of view . . presents a quite changed point of departure for testing the extraeconomic reasons for and against the protective system.” Mises thus takes the analysis of migration beyond the realm of narrowly economic considerations and brings it into contact with the concrete political reality of the democratic mixed-nation-state and its characteristic suppression and violation of the property rights of national minorities by the majority nation.
This analysis leads Mises to view mass “immigration,” that is, labor migration across state borders, even when it occurs for purely economic reasons, as posing an inherent problem. Mises maintains that the creation of mixed-nation-states resulting from the immigration of workers of a foreign nationality, “gives rise once again to all those conflicts that generally develop in polyglot territories” and “to particularly characteristic conflicts between peoples.” Mises does recognize that peaceful cultural and political assimilation can take place “if the immigrants come not all at once but little by little, so that the assimilation process among the early immigrants is already completed or at least already under way when the newcomers arrive.” He cites the example of Chinese immigration to the United States in the nineteenth century, which did occur in a manner amenable to assimilation. Mises remarks, however, that “perhaps” the Chinese would have “achieve[d] domination in their new home . . . in the western states of the Union if legislation had not restricted their immigration in time.” But this is strictly a positive statement and Mises draws no policy implications from it.
Indeed, Mises exposes the economic arguments to restrict immigration put forward by protectionist trade unions in relatively high-wage countries like the U.S and Australia as transparently self-serving and injurious to the economic interests of their fellow nationals as well as contrary to the teachings of sound economic theory. Mises takes a more measured tone when considering the extra-economic argument in favor of immigration restriction that is disingenuously resorted to by the protectionists as a fallback position. According to the latter argument, in the absence of immigration barriers “hordes of immigrants” of non-English-speaking European and Asian nationalities would “inundate Australia and America.” Because these immigrants would arrive rapidly and in great numbers, the argument asserts, they could not be assimilated and Anglo-Saxons in the host countries would find themselves in a minority and their “exclusive dominion . . . would be destroyed.”
In evaluating this argument, Mises emphasizes the political problems that would arise in a mixed-nation-state created overnight by mass immigration (https://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition/html/p/45):

These fears may perhaps be exaggerated with regard to the United States. As regards Australia, they certainly are not. . . . If Australia is thrown open to immigration, it can be assumed with great probability that its population would in a few years consist of Japanese, Chinese and Malayans. . . . The entire nation [not just workers] is unanimous, however, in fearing inundation by foreigners. The present inhabitants of those favored lands [the U.S. and Australia] fear that some day they could be reduced to a minority in their own country and that they would then have to suffer all horrors of national persecution to which, for instance, the Germans today [1927] are exposed in Czechoslovakia, Italy, and Poland.
While Mises does not take an explicit position on the desirability of a policy curbing massive immigration flows that are induced by economic opportunity, he acknowledges that “these fears” of the nationality inhabiting the receiving country “are justified,” especially in a world of interventionist states. Mises, who for many years observed first-hand the egregious maltreatment of national minorities in Central and Eastern Europe, vividly expresses the basis of the majority nation’s fear of being transformed into a national minority: (https://mises.org/library/liberalism-classical-tradition/html/p/45)

As long as the state is granted the vast powers which it has today and which public opinion considers to be its right, the thought of having to live in a state whose government is in the hands of members of a foreign nationality is positively terrifying. It is frightful to live in a state in which at every turn one is exposed to persecution—masquerading under the guise of justice—by a ruling majority. It is dreadful to be handicapped even as a child in school on account of one’s nationality and to be in the wrong before every judicial and administrative authority because one belongs to a national minority.
Thus, Mises views immigration as always and everywhere a “problem” to which there is “no solution,” as long as interventionist political regimes are the norm. Only when the crossing of state borders by members of a different nation portend no political dangers for the indigenous nationality will the “problem of immigration” disappear and be replaced by the benign migration of labor that creates unalloyed and mutual economic advantages for all individuals and peoples. From the Mises’s perspective, then, the solution to the immigration problem is not to legislate some vague, ad hoc right to the “freedom of movement” between existing fixed-boundary states. Rather, it is to complete the laissez-faire liberal revolution and secure private property rights by providing for the continual redrawing of state boundaries in accordance with the right of self-determination and the nationality principle. Then — and only then — can the continual and wealth-creating reallocation of labor throughout the world required by a dynamic capitalist economy be peacefully accommodated without precipitating political conflict.
Conclusion

Mises was a radical liberal nationalist and cosmopolitan whose overarching goal was to promote policies that facilitated the peaceful extension of the social division of labor founded on private property to all individuals and nations. He acknowledged the reality of separate nations and its meaningfulness for political and economic policy analysis. He recognized that political borders that were not formed according to the nationality principle were an insurmountable impediment to the fullest realization of the concept of free trade and an important source of national conflicts and protectionism that destroyed wealth. In particular, Mises realized that “immigration” was not the solution to the problem of the uneconomic spatial distribution of labor, but the very cause of the problem. The problem of immigration would be solved only with the consummation of the classical liberal revolution in the universal recognition of the right of self-determination. Then the problem—and the very phenomenon—of immigration would disappear, as the borders of states would move with the migration of peoples and nations.
Further Reading

Mises, Ludwig von. 1983. Nation, State, and Economy: Contributions to the Politics and History of Our Time. Trans. Leland B. Yeager. New York: New York University Press.
_____. 1985. Liberalism in the Classical Tradition. Trans. Ralph Raico. 3rd ed. Irvington-on-Hudson, NY and San Fancisco: The Foundation for Economic Education, Inc. and Cobden Press (co-publishers)
_____. 1996. Critique of Interventionism. Trans. Hans F. Sennholz. 2nd ed. Irvington-on-Hudson, NY: The Foundation for Economic Education, Inc.
_____. 1998. Human Action: A Treatise on Economics. Scholar’s Edition. Auburn, AL: The Ludwig von Mises Institute.
Rothbard, Murray N. 1993. “Hands Off the Serbs.” RRR: Rothbard-Rockwell Report. Pp. 1-5.
_____. 1994. “Nations by Consent: Decomposing the Nation-State.” Journal of Libertarian Studies 11:1 (Fall): 1-10.



1. (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnoteref1_313rkup) Mises (1983, p. 34) gives the charming example of the Italian nationalists who shouted to the imperial Austrian soldiers: “Go back across the Alps and we will become brothers again.”
2. (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnoteref2_r0o75kg) However, Mises (1983, p. 37) concedes that in rare cases, “where freedom and self government already prevail and seem assured without it,” such as Switzerland, the right of self determination may not result in a nationally unified state.
3. (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnoteref3_fpmpxm7) On the ethnic-religious conflicts in the former Yugoslavia see Rothbard (1993; 1994).
4. (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnoteref4_ubx8egl) Rothbard (1994, pp. 5-6) makes a similar point about the unavoidable political conflicts that arise in a situation where different nationalities are bound together under the jurisdiction of a single, laissez-faire liberal government: “But even under the minimal state, national boundaries would still make a difference, often a big one, to the inhabitants of the area. [I]For in what language . . . will be the street signs, telephone books, court proceedings, or school classes of the area?
5. (https://mises.org/blog/mises-nationalism-right-self-determination-and-problem-immigration#footnoteref5_y9cpy68) A more euphonious term than “mixed-nation-states” for these political entities would be “multinational states” but given its current connotation, the latter term is likely to be misleading.



Joseph Salerno is academic vice president of the Mises Institute, professor of economics at Pace University, and editor of the Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics (http://mises.org/qjaedisplay.asp).

Swordsmyth
11-14-2018, 06:22 PM
The "War on Drugs" needs to end, there is no "War on Immigration" just an almost unopposed invasion.

Ender
11-14-2018, 06:29 PM
Drug-War and Immigrant-War Tyranny https://www.fff.org/2018/11/14/drug-war-and-immigrant-war-tyranny/

YES! I've been saying this forever!

CCTelander
11-14-2018, 06:42 PM
YES! I've been saying this forever!


That's just what a Muslim communist like you WOULD say. :sarcasm: ;)

Swordsmyth
11-14-2018, 06:47 PM
That's just what a Muslim communist like you WOULD say. :sarcasm: ;)
It's more like what the communist globalist Pope and the Jesuits would say:


The main problem is that most do not understand the Jesuits. They're mission is for the greater good of ALL mankind- especially the young, poor, & afflicted.

Many see the Pope as a progressive when he is actually practicing his religion and trying to bring the world together in peace while softening the hardships of the many.



And, no, I am NOT a Catholic or a Jesuit; I just appreciate & understand what he is trying to do in spite of all the misunderstanding and hatred that is covering the planet.

r3volution 3.0
11-14-2018, 06:53 PM
"Immigrants are trespassing on border ranchers' lands and leaving trash and making a big mess!"


...If they could cross legally, they'd do so on highways like normal travelers; immigration restrictions cause this problem.


"Immigrants are bringing drugs into the country, cartels, MS13!?!?!"


...If drugs were legal, the cartels et al would be out of business; do the immigrants smuggle whiskey? (they would if it were still illegal)

acptulsa
11-14-2018, 06:53 PM
...there is no "War on Immigration" just an almost unopposed invasion.

I see.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1e7EBze6ho

Swordsmyth
11-14-2018, 06:58 PM
I see.

Window dressing, the system is rigged to allow millions to swarm across the border unchecked.

Swordsmyth
11-14-2018, 06:59 PM
"Immigrants are trespassing on border ranchers' lands and leaving trash and making a big mess!"

...If they could cross legally, they'd do so on highways like normal travelers; immigration restrictions cause this problem.


"Immigrants are bringing drugs into the country, cartels, MS13!?!?!"

...If drugs were legal, the cartels et al would be out of business; do the immigrants smuggle whiskey? (they would if it were still illegal)


Immigrants are the last straw will turn us into a 3rd world communist hellhole.

pcosmar
11-14-2018, 07:04 PM
Window dressing, the system is rigged to allow millions to swarm across the border unchecked.

No. It is simply failure.

Failure.. period.


Failure from conception to enforcement of that conception. Abject Failure.

and that is Both the Drug War and the Migration War.

acptulsa
11-14-2018, 07:40 PM
No. It is simply failure.

Failure.. period.


Failure from conception to enforcement of that conception. Abject Failure.

and that is Both the Drug War and the Migration War.

Not from their point if view.

What the proponents of the war on immigrants don't want to admit--especially to themselves--is the purpose is checkpoints, searches, seizures and tyranny. Just like the drug war.

In that, both "wars" are stunning successes.

CCTelander
11-14-2018, 08:31 PM
Not from their point if view.

What the proponents of the war on immigrants don't want to admit--especially to themselves--is the purpose is checkpoints, searches, seizures and tyranny. Just like the drug war.

In that, both "wars" are stunning successes.


I'm old enough to remember a day when, while watching movies at the theater and a NAZI or East German official would demand "Your papersss, pleassse." there would still be a few people in the audience who would spontaneously boo and hiss, recognizing the trappings of a true police state and wanting nothing to do with it.

Nowadays, when confronted with the modern American equivalent (checkpoints, govt mandated verification for employment, etc.) we have people in the so-called "liberty movement" cheering it on, and failing to recognize it for what it is, or simply ignoring the reality.

And they wonder why the so-called "liberty movement" consistently fails to make any significant progress. They can't even maintain a committment to actual liberty within their own ranks. Why would anyone outside ever take them seriously?

Mach
11-14-2018, 08:59 PM
No. It is simply failure.

Failure.. period.


Failure from conception to enforcement of that conception. Abject Failure.

and that is Both the Drug War and the Migration War.

You don't think immigration is being manipulated throughout the world to achieve specific outcomes?

r3volution 3.0
11-14-2018, 09:18 PM
I'm old enough to remember a day when, while watching movies at the theater and a NAZI or East German official would demand "Your papersss, pleassse." there would still be a few people in the audience who would spontaneously boo and hiss, recognizing the trappings of a true police state and wanting nothing to do with it.

Nowadays, when confronted with the modern American equivalent (checkpoints, govt mandated verification for employment, etc.) we have people in the so-called "liberty movement" cheering it on, and failing to recognize it for what it is, or simply ignoring the reality.

And they wonder why the so-called "liberty movement" consistently fails to make any significant progress. They can't even maintain a committment to actual liberty within their own ranks. Why would anyone outside ever take them seriously?

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CCTelander again.

PAF
11-14-2018, 09:21 PM
You don't think immigration is being manipulated throughout the world to achieve specific outcomes?

I do.

With the numbers involved, I believe tptb are counting on walls, biometrics, added security, surveillance, more govt. ‘solutions’, etc at tremendous cost to the taxpayer.. with the added benefit of eliminating the middle class. It pits people against people not only among Americans, but also foreigners.

I reject that stupid Berlin I mean Am/Mex wall and everything else that opposes the Bill of Rights. The only real solution that is not mentioned in the msm is End the Welfare. Simple, cheap, freedom and liberty.

Of course this has turned into trumpforum dot com so I see many folks promoting that wall. On my dime.

Perhaps the folks on this site will convince the Section 8 Walmart folks having 3, 4, 5 kids to increase their welfare check each month to pick up those border jobs that nobody wants.

PAF
11-14-2018, 09:30 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to CCTelander again.

Dr.3D
11-14-2018, 09:32 PM
How come, every time the government gets bored, they declare a war on something?

When I was a kid, first thing I remember hearing from government was, "The War in Vietnam." But at first they couldn't even call it that and it was just a "conflict."

We didn't have a drug conflict, but they decided to declare a war on drugs anyway.

Later, it was the "War On Terror!"

Sounds like a bunch of warmongers to me.

CCTelander
11-14-2018, 09:35 PM
How come, every time the government gets bored, they declare a war on something?

When I was a kid, first thing I remember hearing from government was, "The War in Vietnam." But at first they couldn't even call it that and it was just a "conflict."

We didn't have a drug conflict, but they decided to declare a war on drugs anyway.

Later, it was the "War On Terror!"

Sounds like a bunch of warmongers to me.


And let's not forget Johnson's ever popular "War on Poverty" which did nothing but increase the debt to create even more poverty. That one's a perennial favorite.

RJ Liberty
11-14-2018, 09:43 PM
I'm old enough to remember a day when, while watching movies at the theater and a NAZI or East German official would demand "Your papersss, pleassse." there would still be a few people in the audience who would spontaneously boo and hiss, recognizing the trappings of a true police state and wanting nothing to do with it.

Nowadays, when confronted with the modern American equivalent (checkpoints, govt mandated verification for employment, etc.) we have people in the so-called "liberty movement" cheering it on, and failing to recognize it for what it is, or simply ignoring the reality.

And they wonder why the so-called "liberty movement" consistently fails to make any significant progress. They can't even maintain a committment to actual liberty within their own ranks. Why would anyone outside ever take them seriously?

Indeed.

I live six miles north of the border. The Border Patrol checkpoint here is 28 miles north of the border: 22 miles north of me. They have K-9 units that are sniffing for drugs. The checkpoint has little or nothing to do with illegals, and is used instead to enforce the "War on Drugs".

PAF
11-14-2018, 09:46 PM
And for the record, I don’t care if they’re “documented” or not. Though I prefer not. Because once documented, one becomes owned by the state, and thus eligible for free handouts.

If they happen to commit a crime, we already have procedures for that.

acptulsa
11-14-2018, 10:34 PM
Nowadays, when confronted with the modern American equivalent (checkpoints, govt mandated verification for employment, etc.) we have people in the so-called "liberty movement" cheering it on, and failing to recognize it for what it is, or simply ignoring the reality.

And they wonder why the so-called "liberty movement" consistently fails to make any significant progress. They can't even maintain a committment to actual liberty within their own ranks. Why would anyone outside ever take them seriously?

You mean these people with join dates in the spring of 2016?

They were never part of any liberty movement. That's just when Bolton started hiring trolls.

Origanalist
11-14-2018, 11:08 PM
You mean these people with join dates in the spring of 2016?

They were never part of any liberty movement. That's just when Bolton started hiring trolls.

Some people would rather sit on their butt typing divisive bullshit than produce something tangible for a living.

pcosmar
11-15-2018, 10:47 AM
You don't think immigration is being manipulated throughout the world to achieve specific outcomes?

Manipulated? of coarse it is.. People have been manipulated into cities... and forced out of their homes.

And yes,, occasionally God has told people to get up and move.

He confused the languages at Babel to force people to scatter.. after some Nimrod built a city.

pcosmar
11-15-2018, 10:50 AM
Not from their point if view.

What the proponents of the war on immigrants don't want to admit--especially to themselves--is the purpose is checkpoints, searches, seizures and tyranny. Just like the drug war.

In that, both "wars" are stunning successes.

:( You have a point,,, but I don't like it.

Anti Federalist
11-15-2018, 11:20 AM
What the proponents of the war on immigrants don't want to admit--especially to themselves--is the purpose is checkpoints, searches, seizures and tyranny. Just like the drug war.

That's not my purpose.

I like where I live.

I'm not interested in New England becoming New Ghana or New Guatemala or New Taiwan or New Ukraine, through fifth generation warfare invasion.

The question is: do I or my neighbors have the right to desire that?

That's what's being questioned and denounced...the very idea that we would want such a thing.

acptulsa
11-15-2018, 11:27 AM
That's not my purpose.

Of course not. They do what they want, and say that serves your purpose. Maybe it does, and maybe it doesn't. But they depend on people not checking to see what purpose it really serves, or assuming it'll serve their purpose even if it serves the evil purpose better, or putting up with the evil purpose because even though the thing doesn't serve any good purpose, because putting up with it "sends a message" to somebody.

Swordsmyth
11-15-2018, 02:09 PM
That's not my purpose.

I like where I live.

I'm not interested in New England becoming New Ghana or New Guatemala or New Taiwan or New Ukraine, through fifth generation warfare invasion.

The question is: do I or my neighbors have the right to desire that?

That's what's being questioned and denounced...the very idea that we would want such a thing.
Open Borders Mania is just as incurable as TDS, I continue to call for sensible moderate measures but I almost expect that we will end up like Europe at this point, eventually there will be race/culture wars and we will either be provoked and forced into killing and driving the invaders out or they will kill us.

It won't be pretty and it will be much less fair and it won't allow for individualism at all, if they can't speak English or maybe just if they have the wrong skin color they will be the enemy to be killed or driven out.

I'm not calling for it, I'm doing everything I can to prevent it but it will be out of my hands, the emergency will be upon us and people will gravitate to the extremists and lash out wildly like a wounded animal.

Brian4Liberty
11-15-2018, 08:03 PM
The Drug War And The Border War

Don’t forget the war on drunk driving (which for some is simply neo-prohibitionism). Many of the same anti-liberty tactics and outcomes as the other two “wars”. Soon we will be able to add the full blown “war on guns”, which will also include many of the same tactics. No knock raids in the middle of the night...