Republicans Captured A Higher Percentage Of Hispanic Voters In Midterms Than Trump Did In 2016

[Swordsmyth]

The percentage of Latinos who voted for GOP candidates (https://dailycaller.com/2018/07/05/hispanic-vote-will-hurd-texas-california-florida/) in the 2018 midterm elections was higher than the percentage of Latinos who voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
President Trump pulled in (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/29/hillary-clinton-wins-latino-vote-but-falls-below-2012-support-for-obama/) a respectable 28 percent of the Hispanic vote in 2016, despite his positions (https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/10/joe-lieberman-2020-democrats-ocasio-cortez/) on immigration and a border wall. This year, GOP candidates won 29 percent, according (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/09/how-latinos-voted-in-2018-midterms/) to the Pew Research Center’s exit poll data.

In U.S. congressional races nationwide, an estimated 69% of Latinos voted for the Democratic candidate and 29% backed the Republican candidate, a more than two-to-one advantage for Democrats, according to National Election Pool exit poll data. These results largely reflect the party affiliation of Latinos. In a Pew Research Center pre-election survey, 62% of Latinos said they identify with or lean toward the Democratic Party compared with 27% who affiliated with the Republican Party. Among other racial and ethnic groups, a lower share of whites (44%) voted for Democrats in congressional races compared with blacks (90%) and Asians (77%). (Exit polls offer the first look at who voted in an election, a portrait that will be refined over time as more data, such as state voter files, become available.)
While Hispanics made up 11 percent of overall voters on election day, they formed a key electorate (https://dailycaller.com/2018/08/07/dems-hispanic-vote/) in several Senate races, including “Texas (30%), Arizona (23%), Florida (20%) and Nevada (19%),” according to Pew. Republican Ted Cruz managed to win 35 percent of the Latino vote in his Texas race for U.S. Senate, while Governor Greg Abbott won 42 percent in his campaign for re-election.

In Florida, a high population of Cuban-Americans propelled GOP Candidates Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis to 45 and 44 percent, respectively.

More at: https://dailycaller.com/2018/11/10/republicans-trump-hispanic-voters-midterms/

[timosman]

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[enhanced_deficit]

MAGA's stances like these a factor?
In any case, above report if non-fakenews negates fakenews media's "Trump is racist" narrative. That is not to say some of Far Right's emerging "Trump is fake racist" narrative should be accepted as divine truth either.


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https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-05-15/trump-is-deporting-fewer-immigrants-than-obama-did

[Swordsmyth]

MAGA's stances like these a factor?
In any case, above report if non-fakenews negates fakenews media's "Trump is racist" narrative. That is not to say some of Far Right's emerging "Trump is fake racist" narrative should be accepted as divine truth either.


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https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/294/982/125.jpg

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2018-05-15/trump-is-deporting-fewer-immigrants-than-obama-did

No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.

[aGameOfThrones]

No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/cardfight/images/9/92/He%27s_right_you_know.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20151003212955

[oyarde]

Look for this to continue . Black unemployment is going down , Hispanics want a strong economy . Once the dems select hillary Trump will get record number votes from these demographics .

[tfurrh]

No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.

No. Chicanos perhaps, but otherwise that's not anywhere near the majority opinion.

[Aratus]

How do things compare to George W. Bush's numbers? I think the Shrub would smack the Trumpster.
The GOP as a whole may be thought to be pro Bush, so Hispancs are not totally alienated. Possibly...

[tfurrh]

A lot of Latinos here have left communist or socialist countries. A lot more have seen the beginnings of socialism gain a foothold in their countries. Most first or second generation Latino immigrants aren't just conservative, but extremely conservative..... So let's make sure to push them away and run them off

I was at a service this morning in a Latino baptist church (mostly Mexicans) and even the preacher said several things in favor of Trump from his pulpit. (This is not to say that I shared his sentiment... only it shows that even to the people that have been turned into the hot topic, there's more important things to them than immigration.)

[Swordsmyth]

A lot of Latinos here have left communist or socialist countries. A lot more have seen the beginnings of socialism gain a foothold in their countries. Most first or second generation Latino immigrants aren't just conservative, but extremely conservative..... So let's make sure to push them away and run them off

I was at a service this morning in a Latino baptist church (mostly Mexicans) and even the preacher said several things in favor of Trump from his pulpit. (This is not to say that I shared his sentiment... only it shows that even to the people that have been turned into the hot topic, there's more important things to them than immigration.)
Then why do they vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat?

The numbers may be improving but they are still very bad and I would bet that the improvement comes primarily from multi-generational citizens.

The "let all my friends invade or I will vote communist" line cuts no mustard with me and if all they cared about was open borders they would vote Libertarian, they vote for insane communists because they believe in communism.

[tfurrh]

Then why do they vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat?

The numbers may be improving but they are still very bad and I would bet that the improvement comes primarily from multi-generational citizens.

The "let all my friends invade or I will vote communist" line cuts no mustard with me and if all they cared about was open borders they would vote Libertarian, they vote for insane communists because they believe in communism.

You can be Hispanic and not first or second generation. Doesn't take long for our public schooling, tv shows, universities, and all the Republican Party's friendliness to program folks

[Swordsmyth]

You can be Hispanic and not first or second generation. Doesn't take long for our public schooling, tv shows, universities, and all the Republican dog whistles, to program folks
The statistics show that first and second generations voting overwhelmingly Demoncrat, I believe it is those whose families have been here for generations that have a higher rate of voting Republican.

If you think our culture has a negative effect on people's politics you should think about the effect of growing up in a socialist/communist country.

[tfurrh]

The statistics show that first and second generations voting overwhelmingly Demoncrat, I believe it is those whose families have been here for generations that have a higher rate of voting Republican

Honestly it's probably some of both. I was making inferences from all the people I know first hand.... Likely different in the aggregate.

I was just saying there's lots of potential with
the Hispanic vote.

[Ender]

A lot of Latinos here have left communist or socialist countries. A lot more have seen the beginnings of socialism gain a foothold in their countries. Most first or second generation Latino immigrants aren't just conservative, but extremely conservative..... So let's make sure to push them away and run them off

I was at a service this morning in a Latino baptist church (mostly Mexicans) and even the preacher said several things in favor of Trump from his pulpit. (This is not to say that I shared his sentiment... only it shows that even to the people that have been turned into the hot topic, there's more important things to them than immigration.)

My experience, as well. Most of the Hispanics I know are more hard-working & conservative than others I know who consider themselves "conservative".

[jmdrake]

No, legal hispanics resent the illegals.

I depends on where the illegals are from.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-YQImi_02VI/maxresdefault.jpg

[jmdrake]

Then why do they vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat?

The numbers may be improving but they are still very bad and I would bet that the improvement comes primarily from multi-generational citizens.

The "let all my friends invade or I will vote communist" line cuts no mustard with me and if all they cared about was open borders they would vote Libertarian, they vote for insane communists because they believe in communism.

Marie Love, republican congresswoman and decedent from Haitian immigrants, just lost her re-election bid.

[Swordsmyth]

Marie Love, republican congresswoman and decedent from Haitian immigrants, just lost her re-election bid.
And?

We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.

[Zippyjuan]

And?

We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.

We will become Zimbabwe by 2010 if things continue!

[dannno]

My experience, as well. Most of the Hispanics I know are more hard-working & conservative than others I know who consider themselves "conservative".

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPfvEtPW0AARe1d.jpg

[Zippyjuan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPfvEtPW0AARe1d.jpg

Since illegal immigirants can't vote and Hispanics are the least likely group to turn out and vote- (Hispanics are about 17% of the US population yet were less than ten percent of all voters in 2016)- which group has actually been voting for bigger government? How did we get to where we are now? Whites of European descent. Let's kick them out and ban more from coming.

Is it the Democrat's fault? Have the Republicans who rule the Presidency and both houses of Congress been reducing that spending?

Also note that most immigration now is from Asia- not Latin America.

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/hisp-vote-2012-f1.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/bill-edit-figure-2b.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1

[dannno]

Since illegal immigirants can't vote

Fake news.

[TheCount]

And?

We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.
We need to invade them ASAP to ensure that never happens.

[TheCount]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPfvEtPW0AARe1d.jpg
Are the Trump-voting 29% part of the smaller government column or the larger government column?

[dannno]

Are the Trump-voting 29% part of the smaller government column or the larger government column?

Smart money is on "smaller government" - why? - because compared to Hillary, Trump's ideal government is as tiny as his hands.

[Swordsmyth]

Since illegal immigirants can't vote
They do.



and Hispanicsare the least likely group to turn out and vote- (Hispanics are about 17% of the US population yet were less than ten percent of all voters in 2016)- which group has actually been voting for bigger government? How did we get to where we are now? Whites of European descent. Let's kick them out and ban more from coming.
We should drastically cut ALL immigration, we can't expel citizens but we should encourage secession or even expel states.




Is it the Democrat's fault? Have the Republicans who rule the Presidency and both houses of Congress been reducing that spending?
Demoncrats are worse and there are issues that are even more important than money.




Also note that most immigration now is from Asia- not Latin America.

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/hisp-vote-2012-f1.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/bill-edit-figure-2b.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1
It isn't about race zippy, Asian and European immigrants are a problem too.

The only reason race is even involved in this thread is that hispanics identify as a separate group and the media looked at their voting habits.

[Swordsmyth]

We need to invade them ASAP to ensure that never happens.
Simply protecting our borders and controlling immigration will work.

[TheCount]

Smart money is on "smaller government" - why? - because compared to Hillary, Trump's ideal government is as tiny as his hands.
Hillary's government is much smaller than Trump's.

[dannno]

Hillary's government is much smaller than Trump's.


Lol....

[Zippyjuan]

They do.


We should drastically cut ALL immigration, we can't expel citizens but we should encourage secession or even expel states.



Demoncrats are worse and there are issues that are even more important than money.



It isn't about race zippy, Asian and European immigrants are a problem too.

The only reason race is even involved in this thread is that hispanics identify as a separate group and the media looked at their voting habits.

At least white conservatives aren't collective in their thinking. :sarcasm:

[Swordsmyth]

At least white conservatives aren't collective in their thinking. :sarcasm:
Most people are collective in their thinking and we must deal with that fact.

[Swordsmyth]

Hillary's government is much smaller than Trump's.
That would make a great joke tweet for DJTvsg to post.

[Superfluous Man]

Since illegal immigirants can't vote and Hispanics are the least likely group to turn out and vote- (Hispanics are about 17% of the US population yet were less than ten percent of all voters in 2016)- which group has actually been voting for bigger government? How did we get to where we are now? Whites of European descent. Let's kick them out and ban more from coming.

Is it the Democrat's fault? Have the Republicans who rule the Presidency and both houses of Congress been reducing that spending?

Also note that most immigration now is from Asia- not Latin America.

http://cis.org/sites/cis.org/files/hisp-vote-2012-f1.jpg

https://i0.wp.com/www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/bill-edit-figure-2b.png?w=768&crop=0%2C0px%2C100%2C9999px&ssl=1

All excellent points as usual.

[Swordsmyth]

All excellent points irrelevant spin as usual.
Fixed it.

[Anti Globalist]

Just wait until 100% of hispanics start voting republican.

[Swordsmyth]

Just wait until 100% of hispanics start voting republican.
We live in hope but I won't hold my breath waiting.

[jmdrake]

And?

We know that some are Republicans, the problem is that most are not and if they are allowed to come in unlimited numbers we will become North Venezuela.

1) Trump is the one sending money to Venezuelan refugees.

2) The "let's hate all the immigrants" rhetoric hurts the very immigrants that try to come the GOP way (i.e. Marie Love) and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

[jmdrake]

Just wait until 100% of hispanics start voting republican.

Just wait until 100% of republicans start supporting liberty.

[Swordsmyth]

1) Trump is the one sending money to Venezuelan refugees.
Irrelevant.



2) The "let's hate all the immigrants" rhetoric hurts the very immigrants that try to come the GOP way (i.e. Marie Love) and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
It isn't a self fulfilling prophecy to point out facts already in evidence, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.

[Zippyjuan]

Irrelevant.


It isn't a self fulfilling prophecy to point out facts already in evidence, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.

Criticizing a group of people certainly does NOT encourage them to support you in the next election- even if they happen to agree with you on issues. If you don't like the way the group votes, try to encourage them to come over. Don't drive them away. That is guaranteed to fail. Democrats grew by welcoming groups rejected by Republicans. If you use anti- Hispanic or anti-immigrant rhetoric, can you expect Hispanics to vote for you?

[Swordsmyth]

Criticizing a group of people certainly does NOT encourage them to support you in the next election- even if they happen to agree with you on issues. If you don't like the way the group votes, try to encourage them to come over. Don't drive them away. That is guaranteed to fail. Democrats grew by welcoming groups rejected by Republicans. If you use anti- Hispanic or anti-immigrant rhetoric, can you expect Hispanics to vote for you?
Trust is earned, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.

The Demoncrats grew by importing communists.

[jmdrake]

Irrelevant.


It isn't a self fulfilling prophecy to point out facts already in evidence, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.

Straw man argument.

[Swordsmyth]

Straw man argument.
LOL

[Zippyjuan]

Trust is earned, it is beyond foolish to allow in millions of people who vote communist by an overwhelming margin in the hope that one day they might vote Republican.

The Demoncrats grew by importing communists.

Commie is so 1950's. But seems to be your "go to". That and "RHINOs". Means you ran out of arguments.

[jmdrake]

LOL

You're laughing because you don't know what a straw man argument is.

[Swordsmyth]

You're laughing because you don't know what a straw man argument is.
I'm laughing because you don't.

[Swordsmyth]

Commie is so 1950's. But seems to be your "go to". That and "RHINOs". Means you ran out of arguments.
LOL

You are pathetic.

[jmdrake]

I'm laughing because you don't.

Let's see. I said nothing about letting in millions of immigrants from Venezuela or anywhere else yet you used that in your rebuttal. Classic straw man argument. Build up an argument your opponent didn't make and try to tear it down.

[Zippyjuan]

LOL

You are pathetic.

Another very convincing argument you raise. Do go on.

[Swordsmyth]

Let's see. I said nothing about letting in millions of immigrants from Venezuela or anywhere else yet you used that in your rebuttal. Classic straw man argument. Build up an argument your opponent didn't make and try to tear it down.
You used the classic and failed argument that they don't vote for us because we want to limit immigration, the alternative is supposed to be that we throw our borders wide open and then they will vote Republican, that is ridiculous as I already explained.

[Swordsmyth]

Another very convincing argument you raise. Do go on.
You don't deserve anything better as your posts in this thread show.

[jmdrake]

You used the classic and failed argument that they don't vote for us because we want to limit immigration

Bullshyt. I said no such thing. You can limit immigration without being an asswipe about it. Case in point all of the hand wringing in the thread about the immigrant politician who happened to be a democrat. "OMG! They're going to make us all socialist!" Total hyperbole which ignored immigrant politicians from the other side of the spectrum.

[Swordsmyth]

Let's see. I said nothing about letting in millions of immigrants from Venezuela or anywhere else yet you used that in your rebuttal. Classic straw man argument. Build up an argument your opponent didn't make and try to tear it down.




The "let's hate all the immigrants" rhetoric hurts the very immigrants that try to come the GOP way (i.e. Marie Love) and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

...

[Zippyjuan]

You used the classic and failed argument that they don't vote for us because we want to limit immigration, the alternative is supposed to be that we throw our borders wide open and then they will vote Republican, that is ridiculous as I already explained.

You make the erroneous assumption that somebody against stopping every single person from entering the country favors letting in anybody who wants to come. Ron Paul is not for open borders but opposes Trump's wall as well as some of his other proposals.

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/november/01/why-do-we-need-a-national-security-state/


Given President Trump’s impulsive decision to suddenly send 5,200 armed US soldiers to the US-Mexico border to prevent a few thousand women and children and others from seeking refugee status in the United States, which foreign citizens are entitled to do under US law, a question naturally arises with respect to those troops: What were they doing before they were sent to the border?

The answer is: Nothing, at least nothing productive.


The biggest mistake the United States ever made was to convert the US government from a limited-government republic into a national-security state. The Founding Fathers and the Framers had it right. The best thing that the American people could ever do is dismantle their national-security state governmental structure and restore a limited-government republic to our land. That would naturally entail the dismantling, not the reform, of the NSA, CIA, Pentagon, and what former President Eisenhower labeled the military-industrial-congressional complex.

[jmdrake]

...

You know you just proved that you were doing a straw man argument right? "Let's hate all immigrants rhetoric" != limit the number of immigrants that come in.

[Swordsmyth]

Bullshyt. I said no such thing.
That is the only way to interpret what you said, since I didn't say "Hate all Immigrants" then you must have used that as hyperbola when referring to my insistence that we control immigration.



You can limit immigration without being an asswipe about it. Case in point all of the hand wringing in the thread about the immigrant politician who happened to be a democrat. "OMG! They're going to make us all socialist!" Total hyperbole which ignored immigrant politicians from the other side of the spectrum.
They vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat and if we don't stop the flood they will turn us into a communist country.

A handful of exceptions doesn't change that.

[Swordsmyth]

You know you just proved that you were doing a straw man argument right? "Let's hate all immigrants rhetoric" != limit the number of immigrants that come in.
I proved that you were using a strawman, nobody said "Let's hate all immigrants", you just made it up.

[Swordsmyth]

You make the erroneous assumption that somebody against stopping every single person from entering the country favors letting in anybody who wants to come. Ron Paul is not for open borders but opposes Trump's wall as well as some of his other proposals.

http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2018/november/01/why-do-we-need-a-national-security-state/
Another strawman.

[Zippyjuan]

I proved that you were using a strawman, nobody said "Let's hate all immigrants", you just made it up.

True, you don't mind those who promise they will vote the same way you do.


They vote overwhelmingly Demoncrat and if we don't stop the flood they will turn us into a communist country.

But what if they lied? Should party loyalty be a requirement to becoming a resident and a citizen? Are differing viewpoints to be banned for those who would like to come here? What if those in power enacted such laws- and your view turned out to be the one now outlawed?

Who would you be willing to let in?

[Swordsmyth]

True, you don't mind those who promise they will vote the same way you do. But what if they lied? Should party loyalty be a requirement to becoming a resident and a citizen? Are differing viewpoints to be banned for those who would like to come here? What if those in power enacted such laws- and your view turned out to be the one now outlawed?

Who would you be willing to let in?
I have always said that immigration should be limited by number so that assimilation can take place because philosophical restrictions aren't possible.

If philosophical restrictions were possible we could let in far more immigrants, there is no possible moral objection to choosing who we allow to join the group based on them sharing the founding principles of the group.

[TheCount]

That would make a great joke tweet for DJTvsg to post.

It would resonate well with dannno and anyone else who still thinks that it's October, 2016.

[Swordsmyth]

It would resonate well with dannno and anyone else who still thinks that it's October, 2016.
It wasn't true in October of 2016, Trump didn't have a government either.

[jmdrake]

I proved that you were using a strawman, nobody said "Let's hate all immigrants", you just made it up.

I brought up the loss of Marie Love. She distanced herself from Trump based on the tenor of he rhetoric. Ron Paul doesn't support "millions of immigrants" being allowed to come here but he doesn't sound like an ass doing it. So no, I was not using a straw man. It fit the example I was talking about.

[jmdrake]

That is the only way to interpret what you said, since I didn't say "Hate all Immigrants" then you must have used that as hyperbola when referring to my insistence that we control immigration.


I didn't say you did numb nuts.

[Swordsmyth]

I brought up the loss of Marie Love. She distanced herself from Trump based on the tenor of he rhetoric. Ron Paul doesn't support "millions of immigrants" being allowed to come here but he doesn't sound like an ass doing it. So no, I was not using a straw man. It fit the example I was talking about.
NOBODY has said "Hate all immigrants" that is a strawman.

[Zippyjuan]

I have always said that immigration should be limited by number so that assimilation can take place because philosophical restrictions aren't possible.

If philosophical restrictions were possible we could let in far more immigrants, there is no possible moral objection to choosing who we allow to join the group based on them sharing the founding principles of the group.

How do you enforce assimilation? Education camps? Can they continue to do and think what they want- have free thought and action? If so, perhaps they will not assimilate. How do you determine when they are fully assimilated? Is there some sort of test? Is there a time limit and they are tossed out if they don't assimilate in a certain time? "#23 has now become fully assimilated. Allow in #436. Next!"

Welcome to 1984.

[Swordsmyth]

I didn't say you did numb nuts.

The "let's hate all the immigrants" rhetoric hurts the very immigrants that try to come the GOP way (i.e. Marie Love) and becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
Just who are we supposed to believe you were talking about?

[Swordsmyth]

How do you enforce assimilation? Education camps? Can they continue to do and think what they want- have free thought and action? If so, perhaps they will not assimilate. How do you determine when they are fully assimilated? Is there a time limit and they are tossed out if they don't assimilate in a certain time? "#23 has now become fully assimilated. Allow in #436. Next!"

Welcome to 1984.
Nobody said assimilation should be enforced, the fact that we can't and shouldn't enforce it just means that we must let in even fewer immigrants.

[jmdrake]

NOBODY has said "Hate all immigrants" that is a strawman.


Just who are we supposed to believe you were talking about?

I was talking about general tone as opposed to any one statement. Compare the tone of Donald Trump to the tone of Ron Paul on immigration and get back to me.

[Swordsmyth]

I was talking about general tone as opposed to any one statement. Compare the tone of Donald Trump to the tone of Ron Paul on immigration and get back to me.
You come into my thread and throw a strawman (it is a strawman, NOBODY is saying "hate all immigrants) at my position and then you think you can claim it wasn't aimed ate me?

LOL

[Zippyjuan]

Nobody said assimilation should be enforced, the fact that we can't and shouldn't enforce it just means that we must let in even fewer immigrants.

You claim you are not in favor of zero immigration yet your rules of requiring everybody to be assimilated means you will wait forever to let the next ones it since all people are different.

[Swordsmyth]

You claim you are not in favor of zero immigration yet your rules of requiring everybody to be assimilated means you will wait forever to let the next ones it since all people are different.
Yet another ridiculous strawman.

[Zippyjuan]

Yet another ridiculous strawman.

If we had a checklist for what somebody let into the country must have, what would be on it?

[Swordsmyth]

If we had a checklist for what somebody let into the country must have, what would be on it?
"When losing the argument attempt to bog them down in irrelevant details"

[Zippyjuan]

"When losing the argument attempt to bog them down in irrelevant details"

"When losing, use "RINOS" , "Commies" and "Strawman!""

[Swordsmyth]

"When losing, use "RINOS" , "Commies" and "Strawman!""
LOL
RINOs and commies are real no matter how hard you try to deny it and your side started crying "strawman" first while using strawmen.

[jmdrake]

You come into my thread and throw a strawman (it is a strawman, NOBODY is saying "hate all immigrants) at my position and then you think you can claim it wasn't aimed ate me?

LOL

Let's see. Why did Thoughtamator get his account suspended? Oh that's right. He called the shooting of a Jewish synagogue justifiable homicide because they were helping people who are going to destroy the country and kill everybody. I rest my case. And I didn't say you or anyone in this thread said that. I am talking about a general tone that hurt a republican congresswoman who descended from immigrants in her re-election bid.

[Swordsmyth]

Let's see. Why did Thoughtamator get his account suspended? Oh that's right. He called the shooting of a Jewish synagogue justifiable homicide because they were helping people who are going to destroy the country and kill everybody. I rest my case. And I didn't say you or anyone in this thread said that. I am talking about a general tone that hurt a republican congresswoman who descended from immigrants in her re-election bid.
Even Thoughtamator didn't say to hate all immigrants and the claim that "hate all immigrants" has anything to do with this thread is a strawman and that strawman was aimed at me and my position.